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# Session Start: Tue Apr 12 00:00:00 2011
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# [00:49] <roger_> yo
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# [01:04] <alystair> so, what's the deal with tables?
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# [01:04] <alystair> is there no way to specificy span of column in css? :O
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# [07:12] <Guest73719> Hello,
# [07:12] <Guest73719> I have a question about how to use oninput event on canvas?
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# [10:28] <Guest36287> hey -- do you guys know of maybe a browser extension or something, that might tell websites that my screen's vertical space is bigger than it really is?
# [10:29] <Guest36287> this thing in the browser keeps being sized in a weird way, because of how my screen is.. I'd like it if it were bigger (verically!)
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# [13:04] <Neiluj> neither input[value=""] ...
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# [15:44] <Michael> I read about that and then forgot about it
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# [17:25] <paul_irish> Michael: i dont think ecsstender is a good idea tho
# [17:25] <Michael> paul_irish, I agree. That's a lot of processing for a small convenience
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# [17:26] <paul_irish> bingo
# [17:27] <Michael> I was drinking when I read your tweet and was thinking "oh this would be cool" without thinking much beyond that
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# [17:45] <paul_irish> retlehs: roots is blowin up
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# [17:45] <paul_irish> congrats :D
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# [17:48] <paul_irish> hahah https://twitter.com/#!/csswg/status/57830358565138432
# [17:48] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/e9fzD8 @csswg: CSS 2.1 IS A W3C PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION !!! ^DG
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# [18:04] <danbeam> what does CSS 2.1 being a proposed recommendation do for developers? just make them laugh? as we're already using browser specific implmentations of the *next* CSS rev anyway?
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# [18:12] <paul_irish> http://live.visitmix.com/ !
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# [18:16] <gavacho> is this guy pimpin an ie10 tshirt?
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# [18:26] <BrianBlakely> Resig accepted the jQuery changes I worked on! http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/8403
# [18:27] <BrianBlakely> Now (as of jQ 1.6) setting opacity won't destroy other IE filters you may applied to an element
# [18:27] <gavacho> nice!
# [18:27] <gavacho> grats
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# [18:30] <paul_irish> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/04/12/native-html5-first-ie10-platform-preview-available-for-download.aspx
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# [18:33] <danbeam> paul_irish: "ES5 Strict Mode in action" whoa, sweet!
# [18:34] <paul_irish> i got bigger priorities than strictmode
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# [18:35] <danbeam> paul_irish: yeah, it's not a huge deal to me either, just interesting there are more implementations emerging already
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# [18:38] <tw2113> i think Microsoft is taking que's from the browser leaders
# [18:39] <Michael> You talking about ECMAScript 5's strict mode?
# [18:39] <tw2113> i was talking more rolling releases
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# [18:40] <paul_irish> HA
# [18:40] <paul_irish> HAHAHA tw
# [18:40] <paul_irish> don't be daft.
# [18:41] * Michael isn't hip to the clique puns
# [18:41] <tw2113> it's what i do best paul
# [18:41] <Michael> I DON'T GET IT
# [18:41] <tw2113> Michael they're apparently already working on IE10
# [18:41] <danbeam> tw2113: why does there need to be versions?
# [18:42] <Michael> ah, yeah I saw that :/
# [18:42] <tw2113> because people like versions danbeam
# [18:42] <Michael> and windows8
# [18:42] <tw2113> and i have noticed the trend to removing version #s on everything
# [18:42] <danbeam> tw2113: you're using the internet - it's not like you're on a remote desert island with no tubes -- you have a steady constant perfectly good internets you could be constantly updating the browser over
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# [18:43] <Michael> Like Chrome? :D
# [18:43] <danbeam> Michael: like HTML?
# [18:43] <Michael> I know it's versioned but I never know which I'm using except canary
# [18:43] <danbeam> Michael: yup, the version shouldn't matter
# [18:43] <danbeam> IMO
# [18:43] <tw2113> version #s are going to turn into mile/kilometer markers
# [18:43] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, nimbupani: you out of work yet? IE10 PP1 is out
# [18:43] <tw2113> they're nice to have to see where you are, but irrelevant
# [18:44] <Michael> I think you need versions to charge people more money for your software
# [18:44] <nimbupani> PFFFT antonkovalyov
# [18:44] <Michael> "But I bought PhotoShop in 1992!!!"
# [18:44] <paul_irish> look guys they implemented what other browsers had 12 months ago..
# [18:44] <tw2113> that works fine with software that costs money :P
# [18:44] <nimbupani> hahahaa
# [18:44] <paul_irish> but ie10 wont be out for another 18 months anyway
# [18:44] <nimbupani> but we dont know what else they will add.
# [18:44] <antonkovalyov> they should switch to 6 months releases
# [18:44] <danbeam> paul_irish: and nobody will use it for 10 years after that, ;)
# [18:45] <Michael> paul_irish, I read it was slated to be released with Windows8 in 2012
# [18:45] <paul_irish> orly
# [18:45] <tw2113> they should open source it
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# [18:45] <danbeam> windows does have to thank itself for making people buy new computers just to upgrade their browser - quite an intelligent move, :P
# [18:45] <tw2113> BAHAHAHAHAHA i kill myself
# [18:45] <danbeam> tw2113: LOLOLOL
# [18:46] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, btw the only thing i find very useful in ie9 dev tools is quick access to "clear cache" and a checkbox to "always download from server"
# [18:46] <Michael> tw2113, Yeah so everyone else can learn how to code better
# [18:46] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, you should do that in chrome dev tools
# [18:46] <tw2113> Michael i was thinking "time filler" between good jobs
# [18:46] <paul_irish> i like that.
# [18:46] <danbeam> Michael: muhahahahah
# [18:46] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, when is update to dragonfly coming out?
# [18:46] <nimbupani> imminent antonkovalyov
# [18:46] <nimbupani> meanwhile you can use the cutting edge one
# [18:46] <tw2113> good day antonkovalyov
# [18:46] <antonkovalyov> tw2113, yo
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# [18:47] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, so we submitted our book's ToC yesterday and dragonfly is not there yet :( but we can add it later if it is any good
# [18:47] <antonkovalyov> and by any good i mean "does not take 3 minutes to open"
# [18:48] <nimbupani> it takes much less!
# [18:48] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: +1 on the not taking 3 min to open
# [18:48] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, also, REPL? :)
# [18:48] <antonkovalyov> all cool kids call it console nowadays
# [18:48] <tw2113> i wonder if my machine could handle Win7
# [18:48] <nimbupani> its there too antonkovalyov
# [18:48] <antonkovalyov> it took me forever to find it the other day
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# [18:49] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, too bad you don't have public bug tracker
# [18:49] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, i would bug the shit out of opera
# [18:49] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, why? :))
# [18:49] <nimbupani> you can bug the shit out of dragonfly antonkovalyov!
# [18:49] <nimbupani> https://bitbucket.org/scope/dragonfly-stp-1
# [18:49] <antonkovalyov> oh nice
# [18:50] <antonkovalyov> bitbucket
# [18:50] <antonkovalyov> geez
# [18:50] <antonkovalyov> oh wait, its atlassian now? i guess i missed some news
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# [18:50] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: msft just sold the fuck out of modernizr in the mix keynote
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# [18:51] <antonkovalyov> is there a live stream?
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# [18:51] <danbeam> paul_irish: sweet, whoever wrote that deserves a pack on the back, ;)
# [18:51] <paul_irish> http://live.visitmix.com/
# [18:51] <tw2113> dan, it's getting shipped with asp.net MVC 3 update?
# [18:52] <tw2113> dang*
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# [18:52] <paul_irish> omg sooo gay
# [18:52] <danbeam> paul_irish: lol
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# [18:52] <tw2113> gay like bad javascript?
# [18:53] <tw2113> boo silverlight required
# [18:53] <tw2113> bastards
# [18:53] <paul_irish> OMG
# [18:53] <nimbupani> antonkovalyov: go to opera:config#DeveloperTools|DeveloperToolsURL
# [18:53] <gavacho> paul irish rules!!!
# [18:53] <nimbupani> OMG
# [18:53] <paul_irish> "big thanks to paul irish"
# [18:53] <nimbupani> PAUL IRISH
# [18:53] <paul_irish> hahaha
# [18:53] <nimbupani> and change the Tools URL to https://dragonfly.opera.com/app/stp-1/experimental/
# [18:53] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, nice nice
# [18:53] <danbeam> tw2113: http://mono-project.com/
# [18:53] <danbeam> tw2113: whoops
# [18:53] <tw2113> i'm on fedora, will that help it danbeam ?
# [18:54] <antonkovalyov> why everytime i try to watch anything by microsoft
# [18:54] <danbeam> tw2113: http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
# [18:54] <antonkovalyov> they create some class in visual studio
# [18:54] <antonkovalyov> every fucking presentation
# [18:54] <antonkovalyov> "lets create a class in visual studio!"
# [18:54] <tw2113> yeah it would
# [18:55] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, kk
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# [18:55] <tw2113> or i can just watch the whole thing later whe someone provides it elsewhere
# [18:55] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: "Did we mention we have this kick-ass IDE called Visual Studio?!" (~~ dog food smell pervades ~~)
# [18:57] <antonkovalyov> what am i watching
# [18:57] <antonkovalyov> is this a keynote
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# [18:57] <antonkovalyov> why is he adding a sql server
# [18:57] <antonkovalyov> where am i
# [18:57] <antonkovalyov> who am i
# [18:57] <nimbupani> dont. i bailed
# [18:57] <nimbupani> after ie10
# [18:57] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: you're 12, and what is this?
# [18:57] <tw2113> antonkovalyov is having an identity crisis
# [18:58] <tw2113> he thinks he's crawford
# [18:58] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, !!!
# [18:58] <antonkovalyov> much better
# [18:58] <nimbupani> yeah
# [18:58] <nimbupani> DUH
# [18:58] <nimbupani> much better.
# [18:58] <nimbupani> afaik antonkovalyov only looks 12 but is much older.
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# [18:58] <BrianBlakely> Protip: A new Incognito Window in Chrome is cache-free
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# [18:58] <tw2113> 13?
# [18:59] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, CONSOLE ON ESCAPE
# [18:59] <nimbupani> yes.
# [19:00] <BrianBlakely> Holy mother of shit @ IE10: "You can run these at http://www.ietestdrive.com/ to see emerging standards like CSS3 Multi-column Layout (http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-multicol/), CSS3 Grid Layout (http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-css3-grid-layout-20110407/?amp) and CSS3 Flexible Box Layout (http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-flexbox/), CSS3 Gradients (http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-images/#gradients), and ES5 Strict Mode in action."
# [19:00] <nimbupani> hahaha i love going thro the errors tab for css errors.
# [19:00] <nimbupani> "padding-bottom: expression(this.scrollWidth > this.offsetWidth ? 15 : 0);"
# [19:00] <danbeam> nimbupani: http://bit.ly/gWP84J lol, you're right
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# [19:01] <antonkovalyov> that's not me
# [19:01] <BrianBlakely> Whoa, NEXT sentence: "We also demonstrated additional standards support (like CSS3 Transitions (http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-transitions/) and CSS3 3D Transforms (http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-3d-transforms/)) that will be available in subsequent platform previews of IE10, which we will update every 8-12 weeks."
# [19:01] <antonkovalyov> i suck at chess
# [19:01] <antonkovalyov> this guy is awesome at chess
# [19:01] <BrianBlakely> IE10 at par with Chrome 12?
# [19:01] <BrianBlakely> …well, no
# [19:02] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: yeah, he is
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# [19:02] <tw2113> BrianBlakely it is at the current point but it'll take them long enough to release IE10 that when they do, chrome jumped ahead again
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# [19:03] <antonkovalyov> omg this is the worst keynote ever
# [19:03] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: those are fighting words to paul_irish
# [19:03] <nimbupani> hahaha danbeam thats not antonkovalyov
# [19:03] <BrianBlakely> tw2113: Naturally… but well, they didn't mention Web Workers, for starters
# [19:03] <nimbupani> tho it fits a russian stereotype
# [19:03] <BrianBlakely> I keed, IE sucxxx
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# [19:03] <antonkovalyov> even worse then an hour long presentation of google wave at the io :)
# [19:04] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: too soon, dawg, too soon
# [19:04] <antonkovalyov> two years
# [19:04] <antonkovalyov> or three?
# [19:04] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: sure, it will be mourned by then
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# [19:04] <antonkovalyov> ok i can't take it anymore
# [19:04] <BrianBlakely> RIP Wave, you needed more love to grow strong
# [19:04] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: actually, screw it - Lars left, it's all good
# [19:04] <antonkovalyov> danbeam, presentation was two years ago
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# [19:05] <antonkovalyov> it was google io '09 keynote
# [19:05] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: yeah, I know, but Wave died earlier than that
# [19:05] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: sorry, later**
# [19:05] <antonkovalyov> who gives a shit
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# [19:05] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: not you, haha, ;)
# [19:05] <BrianBlakely> Not linking Gmail to Wave was the issue
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# [19:06] <antonkovalyov> hahahahah
# [19:06] <antonkovalyov> hahahha
# [19:06] <antonkovalyov> lucky_larsen has left IRC
# [19:06] <antonkovalyov> wasn't lars' last name larsen?
# [19:06] <danbeam> was that Lars?
# [19:07] <BrianBlakely> lucky_larsen: Are you Lars?
# [19:07] <danbeam> no, Rasmussen
# [19:07] <danbeam> I thought
# [19:07] * tw2113 boogies in the corner
# [19:07] <antonkovalyov> oh yeah
# [19:07] <antonkovalyov> not funny then
# [19:07] <danbeam> antonkovalyov: heh
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# [19:08] <BrianBlakely> He didn't respond, creator of Google Wave confirmed
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# [19:08] <gavacho> hehe
# [19:09] <danbeam> tw2113: couldn't get moonlight working - fuck silverlight
# [19:09] <antonkovalyov> oh wait
# [19:09] <antonkovalyov> they just showcased disqus integration
# [19:09] <tw2113> i didn't even bother trying
# [19:09] <danbeam> tw2113: word
# [19:09] <antonkovalyov> now i feel like an ass :)
# [19:09] <BrianBlakely> Anyway, Wave was an IA nightmare, why nobody could get it together at the Goog of all companies is bizarre
# [19:09] <tw2113> i realized Talking Heads > silverlight
# [19:10] <danbeam> tw2113: heh
# [19:10] <tw2113> i feel like that usually antonkovalyov until someone says i haven't been. then i feel good
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# [19:11] <BrianBlakely> tw2113: I realized Flash < Silverlight
# [19:11] <tw2113> so apparently Opera has a new version out *cricket chirp*
# [19:11] <kadiks_> in what way ?
# [19:12] <danbeam> tw2113: you mean 11 or a minor version?
# [19:12] <BrianBlakely> opera.com is kind of a mess
# [19:12] <tw2113> probably the minor version. whichever 11.10 is
# [19:12] <BrianBlakely> Plants me at an nondescript splash page
# [19:13] <danbeam> tw2113: yeah, I thought you hadn't even heard of 11 yet
# [19:13] <BrianBlakely> I hit "play" and a modal pops up
# [19:13] <BrianBlakely> With a Flash player
# [19:13] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: sometimes when I install opera the splash page doesn't work, yeah
# [19:13] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: and I lol that not even Opera supports Opera
# [19:13] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: :/
# [19:14] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: just like some Google properties when Chrome came out (if I remember correctly)
# [19:15] <BrianBlakely> danbeam: I don't know about support, but I can't imagine a random clickthrough driven to opera.com would turn into a conversion
# [19:16] <BrianBlakely> Opera hire 360i! We'll work together and be buds
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# [19:17] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: I think only web developers and Norwegians use Opera
# [19:17] <paul_irish> hahahahah
# [19:18] <BrianBlakely> IETeamGhetto version of Chrome's WebGL demo
# [19:18] <paul_irish> NO TEXT SHADOW
# [19:18] <BrianBlakely> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Performance/FishBowl/Default.html
# [19:18] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish: >_<
# [19:18] <tw2113> opera should import wave!
# [19:18] <tw2113> *runs away for that one*
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# [19:19] <BrianBlakely> DirectX is too powerful for meager text shadows
# [19:19] * danbeam thinks the O3D demo he saw using Chrome years ago pwns all other demos he's seen since (and O3D is dead, :/)
# [19:19] <BrianBlakely> You must create apps that run at 3FPS in Chrome to unlock the true power of the whole PC!!!
# [19:19] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, // jquery() is pretty cool
# [19:20] <nimbupani> yeah it is :)
# [19:20] <nimbupani> a manual is coming out soon.
# [19:20] <BrianBlakely> antonkovalyov: Wat?
# [19:20] <paul_irish> danbeam: https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr/issues/235#comment_990570
# [19:20] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, ok ok gonna start testing sites on opera again :)
# [19:21] <danbeam> paul_irish: cool
# [19:21] <antonkovalyov> BrianBlakely, opera's new dev console has an ability to load jquery into the active tab
# [19:22] <BrianBlakely> antonkovalyov: Oh neat! I've been using a Firebug plugin for that, very handy!
# [19:23] <danbeam> paul_irish: can you think of a CSS rule that's only partially implemented but still "sticks" when assigned to a node?
# [19:23] <nimbupani> what do you mean danbeam?
# [19:23] <danbeam> nimbupani: I thought of one
# [19:23] <danbeam> nimbupani: background-color: rgba() vs rgb()
# [19:24] <paul_irish> background image stuff?
# [19:24] <danbeam> paul_irish: ya, gradients are a good example too
# [19:24] <danbeam> paul_irish: (using background-image, like you said)
# [19:25] <paul_irish> ya
# [19:25] <nimbupani> yay antonkovalyov!
# [19:25] <nimbupani> sorry i missed the earlier conversation danbeam
# [19:26] <danbeam> nimbupani: it's all good, talking about finding ways to detect whether style properties on nodes actually worked or not
# [19:27] <nimbupani> o right.
# [19:28] <gavacho> euopean or hipster or both?
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# [19:37] <tw2113> what's the airspeed velocity of an unladen hipster?
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# [20:26] <rgervais> paul_irish: I noticed you added -moz-background-clip
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# [20:26] <rgervais> an alternative I use today is overflow: hidden
# [20:26] <rgervais> works for me
# [20:27] <rgervais> referring to css3please
# [20:27] <rgervais> with /* useful if you don't want a bg color from leaking outside the border: *
# [20:27] <paul_irish> orly
# [20:27] <rgervais> what's orly?
# [20:28] <paul_irish> ?http://www.dailyhaggis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/o_rly.jpg
# [20:28] <bot-t> paul_irish, Couldn't find "http://www.dailyhaggis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/o_rly.jpg" in jQuery Docs.
# [20:28] <paul_irish> http://www.dailyhaggis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/o_rly.jpg
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# [20:29] <rgervais> :) yea really
# [20:29] <paul_irish> http://jsfiddle.net/ryywZ/3/
# [20:29] <PrgmrBill> ya rly!
# [20:29] <paul_irish> looks like bgclip is more accurate
# [20:30] <danbeam> paul_irish: do all css transitions temporarily remove that node or set of nodes from the page's flow?
# [20:30] <danbeam> paul_irish: or is that just some of them?
# [20:30] <danbeam> paul_irish: or am I "daft"? :P
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# [20:30] <paul_irish> none of them?
# [20:30] <paul_irish> i dont think theres anything about a css transition that implies how reflows will operate
# [20:31] <danbeam> paul_irish: maybe I'm confusing reflows and repaints
# [20:31] <paul_irish> i have a video for you!
# [20:31] <danbeam> paul_irish: reflow is having to repaint whole DOM tree, no?
# [20:31] <danbeam> paul_irish: hit me
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# [20:32] <paul_irish> its not uploaded yt
# [20:32] <danbeam> paul_irish: (with that video)
# [20:32] <danbeam> paul_irish: :(
# [20:32] <danbeam> paul_irish: lame
# [20:32] <danbeam> paul_irish: there are other resources about it I can find
# [20:32] <paul_irish> reflow is recalculating a portion of the dom tree
# [20:33] <paul_irish> and all the new geometry
# [20:33] <danbeam> paul_irish: yeah, ok, that's what I thought
# [20:33] <paul_irish> and
# [20:33] <paul_irish> i dont see why css transitions would bypass that
# [20:33] <rgervais> yea didn't notice safari
# [20:33] <rgervais> good catch
# [20:33] <danbeam> paul_irish: I'm trying to think of the transition I saw that the writer claimed it didn't affect the rest of the DOM
# [20:34] <paul_irish> plz find it!
# [20:36] <rgervais> i filed a bug for chrome, I forgot what # it was
# [20:36] <rgervais> any ideas? lol
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# [20:47] <nonge> How can I see all differences from <http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20110113/> to <http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20110405/>?
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# [21:00] <danbeam> paul_irish: I think I was thinking CSS transforms don't cause reflow, but still not sure
# [21:01] <Ms2ger> nonge, http://dev.w3.org/html5/html4-differences/
# [21:01] <danbeam> paul_irish: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2016830/fingertips_keynote.pdf <-- my friend said so at YUIConf
# [21:01] <danbeam> paul_irish: but I'm profiling Chrome right now and I get similar things happening when I change a CSS transform / affect the DOM causing reflow
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# [21:02] <paul_irish> transforms dont cause reflow
# [21:02] <paul_irish> correct
# [21:02] <nonge> Ms2ger, this is the document describing differences from HTML 4 to HTML 5. But I need the differences from HTML5 Working Draft from 13 January 2011 to the one from last week
# [21:02] <danbeam> paul_irish: oh, ok, cool
# [21:02] <paul_irish> i mean. like the new geometry of the element is affected
# [21:02] <danbeam> paul_irish: it is kinda strange though, that I get Layout events after them though...
# [21:02] <Ms2ger> http://dev.w3.org/html5/html4-differences/#changes-2011-01-13
# [21:02] <paul_irish> but the rest of the page geometry isnt
# [21:02] <danbeam> paul_irish: exactly
# [21:03] <paul_irish> use --show-paint-rects and you should see only the element being painted
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> nonge, ^
# [21:03] <paul_irish> the rest should not be repainted
# [21:03] <danbeam> paul_irish: ok
# [21:03] <danbeam> paul_irish: what do "Layout" events mean in Chrome's timeline view?
# [21:03] <paul_irish> layout == reflow
# [21:03] <paul_irish> recalculate styles is a prereq to layout
# [21:04] <danbeam> paul_irish: then a CSS transform is causing a reflow for me, pretty sure
# [21:04] <paul_irish> humph
# [21:04] <danbeam> paul_irish: I'll give you test page
# [21:04] <humph_> ?
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# [21:04] <nonge> Ms2ger, oh -- thanks. (although I don't get why they are in THAT document)
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# [21:06] <danbeam> paul_irish: https://gist.github.com/916151
# [21:06] <paul_irish> jsfiddle thatttt
# [21:06] <danbeam> paul_irish: moves the first "Live Example"
# [21:06] <danbeam> paul_irish: why, it's 1 line?
# [21:06] <danbeam> paul_irish: oh, wait
# [21:06] <paul_irish> o
# [21:07] <danbeam> paul_irish: you can't use a URL to start at with jsfiddle, can you?
# [21:07] <paul_irish> guessnot
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# [21:28] <paul_irish> .tweet dalmaer
# [21:28] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/dVZD0k @dalmaer: Excited to launch @FunctionSource, our new tech blog on CloudFoundry http://t.co/k70ULjn #poweredbyNodeAndCoffeeScriptAndBackbone #cfoundry
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# [21:31] <paul_irish> view source on the site
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# [21:36] <naomi> anyone know of a nice sprite editor/creator for osx?
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# [21:42] <Jon47> photoshop..
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# [21:44] <powrsurg> So what's everyone's thoughts on MS' IE10 announcement
# [21:44] <powrsurg> ?
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# [21:53] <Jon47> powrsurg, thought they were kind of smug about using the w3.org standards based names (in a browser that will come out in like a year) and pointing out that chrome and firefox require proprietary properties
# [21:53] <Jon47> so i stopped watching after that ;)
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# [21:55] <powrsurg> Jon47: they should have watched out for -ms-box-flex then :-p
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# [21:55] <Jon47> lol
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# [22:05] <rgervais> having an issue
# [22:05] <rgervais> in IE8/7 background-color are overriding my filter styles
# [22:06] <rgervais> when I remove background-color property, gradient works
# [22:06] <rgervais> thougths?
# [22:06] <rgervais> thoughts*
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# [22:08] <powrsurg> -ms-linear-gradient
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# [22:09] <powrsurg> seriously, if EVERY browser supports a feature with the same syntax, save the propriatary variable to start with, what is the point?
# [22:10] <grantg> troll developers. :P
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# [22:10] <Jon47> the reason they use proprietary values is because the standards haven't been solidified, and they don't want to implement a standard feature incorrectly
# [22:11] <grantg> Though they sometimes still implement it incorrectly even after they drop the prefix
# [22:11] <Jon47> i'm not sure the background gradient standards have been set… but until they do, probably all browsers should be using the proprietary prefixes..
# [22:11] <grantg> and many developers couldn't care less about the prefix, they want whatever each browser can do
# [22:12] <grantg> Jon47: Though you are right
# [22:12] <grantg> though many css devs could care less about prefixes
# [22:12] <grantg> heh
# [22:12] <Jon47> true ture
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# [22:14] <grantg> Jon47: Every time someone says IE9 is the best, I go and say, IE9 Y U NO DO http://www.grantgalitz.org/gbc_demo/ AT FULLSPEED AND WITHOUT AUDIO?
# [22:14] <grantg> :P
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# [22:15] <Jon47> hahaha, that is amazing
# [22:15] <grantg> though sadly even chrome needs to fix up its web audio support
# [22:15] <grantg> :/
# [22:15] <grantg> they're working on it at least (crogers from google)
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# [22:16] <grantg> damn, the JS GBC emu is getting old
# [22:16] <grantg> Almost time for JS GBA release
# [22:16] <grantg> :P
# [22:17] <BrianBlakely> I wish I could see the numbers, but I imagine implemented standards that aren't supported by IE7 probably make up <1% of all web content
# [22:17] <grantg> heh
# [22:17] <grantg> because people originally programmed towards IE
# [22:17] <grantg> Wasn't IE like at 90+% dominance in the early 90s?
# [22:17] <grantg> I mean early 2000s
# [22:17] <grantg> :P
# [22:17] <grantg> It wasn
# [22:17] <Ms2ger> It was
# [22:18] <grantg> It wasn't around in the 90s
# [22:18] <Peter`> grantg: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56627
# [22:18] <grantg> heh
# [22:18] <Ms2ger> And people want WebKit to turn into that
# [22:18] <BrianBlakely> Ms2ger: I wouldn't mind… for now!
# [22:18] <Peter`> I would, definitely
# [22:18] <grantg> heh
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# [22:19] <BrianBlakely> Webkit is pretty much at the point where you can do anything
# [22:19] <BrianBlakely> It's just HWA that is lacking
# [22:19] <grantg> image-rendering: -webkit-optimize-contrast
# [22:19] <Ms2ger> Fools
# [22:19] <grantg> Is that what it is now?
# [22:19] <BrianBlakely> Safari does it best, but only in specific instances
# [22:19] <Peter`> I meant that I would mind WebKit turning into that.
# [22:19] <Peter`> No engine should have a majority in terms of market share
# [22:19] <BrianBlakely> Peter`: I know
# [22:20] <BrianBlakely> Peter`: Except the best one
# [22:20] <Peter`> No, no engine. Not even the best one
# [22:20] <Ms2ger> BrianBlakely, and then it becomes the worst one
# [22:20] <BrianBlakely> Ms2ger: Rather large leap of logic there
# [22:20] <grantg> Peter`: Though the only thing is that it's named completely differently than that of -moz-crisp-edges
# [22:20] <grantg> which might piss off CSS devs
# [22:20] <Ms2ger> IE6 was the best when it got to 90% market share
# [22:21] <BrianBlakely> Ms2ger: Because Google will rest on their laurels if Chrome gained 90% market share?
# [22:21] <BrianBlakely> Ms2ger: Not happening
# [22:21] <Ms2ger> That's what you think
# [22:21] <Peter`> WebKit is a tad different due to the number of companies involved, there is a certain tension between them
# [22:21] <BrianBlakely> Ms2ger: Indeed
# [22:21] <Peter`> nonetheless it should not become the largest
# [22:21] <Peter`> *majority player
# [22:21] <Ms2ger> The point is that they can decide to stop progress at that point
# [22:22] <Ms2ger> That's not a decision any one player should be able to take
# [22:22] <BrianBlakely> Ms2ger: If they want to stop after device API and audio API … aight Chrome Team, take a vaykay
# [22:23] <grantg> heh
# [22:23] <grantg> First webkit's web audio needs to be fixed in chrome
# [22:23] <grantg> though it works in the safari/webkit nightly
# [22:23] <BrianBlakely> Come back in 2016, implement neural network tabs
# [22:23] <Peter`> grantg, please start understanding that the implementation is *highly experimental* and therefore not enabled by default
# [22:23] <grantg> yeah
# [22:23] <grantg> true
# [22:23] <Peter`> there's a reason it hasn't been enabled
# [22:23] <zewt> heh
# [22:24] <zewt> wish they'd fix webgl in chrome on xp :|
# [22:24] <grantg> though once you use it, you wonder why it wasn't implemented back in 2005.
# [22:24] <zewt> used to doing my web debugging in Chrome, but I'm forced back to FF for webgl
# [22:24] <BrianBlakely> paulrouget: Will Firefox 4+ auto-update a la Chrome?
# [22:24] <Peter`> Don't get me wrong, I'm a very big fan of it and have given talks about it :)
# [22:24] <zewt> BrianBlakely: does that mean "whether you like it or not"? heh
# [22:24] <grantg> web-audio is on par with implementing canvas 2d api
# [22:24] <BrianBlakely> zewt: Preeeeeecisely
# [22:24] <grantg> it's the equivalent for it
# [22:24] <zewt> eeeeeeevil :)
# [22:25] <BrianBlakely> zewt: The One True Upgrade Path
# [22:25] <grantg> for audio
# [22:25] <Ms2ger> BrianBlakely, that's the idea
# [22:25] <zewt> grantg: well, what do you mean by "web audio" exactly
# [22:25] <BrianBlakely> zewt: Beeeeaaautiful (compared to the alternatives)
# [22:25] <grantg> the web audio api
# [22:25] <Ms2ger> I'm not sure if all code is in place yet
# [22:25] <zewt> for simply playing audio from a remote file, sure, I'd agree
# [22:25] <Peter`> zewt: http://chromium.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/samples/audio/specification/specification.html
# [22:25] <zewt> for playing audio generated from javascript, i'd say that's much more complex than canvas2d
# [22:25] <BrianBlakely> Ms2ger: Then that means FF4 doesn't auto-update?
# [22:25] <grantg> zewt: Read peter`'s link
# [22:25] <BrianBlakely> If the code isn't in place yet, it missed the boat on FF4...
# [22:26] <Ms2ger> If
# [22:26] <Ms2ger> It might be, but I think Fx5 is more likely
# [22:26] <zewt> ick--badly-named API, should be called something not so easily conflated with <audio>
# [22:26] <grantg> heh
# [22:27] <zewt> and i'd say that's not analogous to canvas2d; i'd say it's much more complex
# [22:27] <grantg> w00t - http://chromium.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/samples/audio/specification/specification.html#JavaScriptAudioNode-section
# [22:27] <Peter`> Definitely, I concur Zeddy
# [22:27] <Peter`> zewt
# [22:27] <Peter`> Then again, audio by itself is rather complex
# [22:27] <zewt> also, the timing sensitivity of audio buffering is a major complexity that canvas doesn't have
# [22:27] <grantg> I already wrote a cross-browser lib for webkit web audio and moz Audio
# [22:27] <grantg> https://github.com/grantgalitz/XAudioJS
# [22:28] <grantg> so it's golden
# [22:28] <grantg> :)
# [22:28] <zewt> eg. when streaming audio from a script, too much buffering and you get discernable latency; too little and you get underruns--that's hard to deal with in native, carefully-engineer, lockless C code, much less GC'd Javascript
# [22:28] <zewt> -eered
# [22:28] <grantg> zewt: I don't get bad latencies at all
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# [22:28] <grantg> I do teh math
# [22:28] <grantg> :P
# [22:28] <zewt> depends on what kind of latency you're looking for
# [22:29] <grantg> I run up to 1/3 of a second at most in latency
# [22:29] <zewt> that's huge
# [22:29] <grantg> I check to make sure it doesn't underrun
# [22:29] <grantg> zewt: You can't really notice it
# [22:29] <zewt> over maybe 100ms is perceptible lag for UI-generated sounds, eg. playing a sound when a user pushes a button
# [22:29] <zewt> itym you can't :P
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# [22:29] <grantg> and you can adjust it easily in the lib I wrote
# [22:30] <zewt> i wonder how well it handles audio sync reporting, which is also a difficult problem
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# [22:30] <grantg> actually it doesn't have to be that much, but I set it to that to be safe
# [22:30] <zewt> and an often-overlooked one
# [22:31] <zewt> <- makes music games as a day job, so having audio APIs that correctly report playback position (to sub-5ms accuracy) is something I've wrestled with many times
# [22:31] <grantg> heh
# [22:31] <zewt> some libraries don't actually report positions based on the hardware playback cursor, for example, which gives poor results
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# [22:31] <zewt> they'll just guess based on the last buffer of audio data they sent
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# [22:32] <grantg> lol
# [22:32] <grantg> zewt: I think that's what firefox 4 does on windows XP
# [22:32] <zewt> which is okay if you're making a seek bar for an audio player, but not okay when you need real sync
# [22:32] <grantg> on mac Firefox 4's audio is way better
# [22:33] <rgervais> hey, what exactly does "image-rendering: -webkit-optimize-contrast" do?
# [22:33] <grantg> In a nutshell: pixelated effect for scaling
# [22:33] <grantg> and it's usually way faster
# [22:33] <zewt> directaudio gives accurate information for playback position (barring driver bugs), but in a format that's sort of a pain to interpret
# [22:33] <zewt> alsa makes it very easy, iirc
# [22:33] <rgervais> grantg: so basically if you want to change image size on fly
# [22:34] <rgervais> it will do it nicely?
# [22:34] <grantg> pixelated
# [22:34] <grantg> nearest-neighbor type scaling
# [22:34] <grantg> rather than the usual blur
# [22:34] <zewt> why is that called "optimize-contrast"? heh
# [22:34] <grantg> I use it on the GBC emu
# [22:34] <grantg> well
# [22:34] <grantg> -moz-crisp-edges
# [22:34] <rgervais> what is pixelated? and I meant nicely as in the photoshop way
# [22:34] <grantg> for the moz counterpart
# [22:34] <zewt> well that name I understand
# [22:34] <zewt> but nearest neighbor doesn't give "optimized contrast" in any way I can think of
# [22:35] <rgervais> ie: bicubic
# [22:35] <rgervais> ahh
# [22:35] <grantg> and -moz-crisp-edges sounds completely different than -webkit-optimize-contrast
# [22:35] <rgervais> nearest neigbor
# [22:35] <grantg> Possible trolling of CSS devs in the near future. ^
# [22:36] <zewt> i don't like "crisp-edges" as a generic name, though
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# [22:36] <zewt> it sounds like a hint that could imply, for example, running a USM filter on the image as well
# [22:36] <rgervais> in adobe.. nearest neighbor is also known as
# [22:36] <rgervais> hard edges
# [22:36] <zewt> photoshop just calls it nearest neighbor
# [22:37] <zewt> dunno about other random adobe products
# [22:37] <grantg> seriously
# [22:37] <grantg> -moz-nearest-neighbor and -webkit-nearest-neighbor
# [22:37] <grantg> ^
# [22:37] <rgervais> ^^^^
# [22:37] <rgervais> yes
# [22:37] <rgervais> agreed
# [22:37] <rgervais> lol
# [22:37] <zewt> heh
# [22:37] <rgervais> effin' case closed
# [22:37] <zewt> they really don't like implementing rules that specify particular algorithms
# [22:37] <grantg> then again
# [22:37] <zewt> in particular: there are two reasons you might be using that rule
# [22:37] <zewt> 1: because it's faster
# [22:37] <grantg> there are different algos of nearest-neighbor
# [22:38] <zewt> 2: because you really do want pixellated scaling
# [22:38] <rgervais> or
# [22:38] <grantg> for the rollover rows/columns
# [22:38] <zewt> they're distinct cases
# [22:38] <rgervais> -moz-resample-image
# [22:38] <rgervais> the adobe way :)
# [22:38] <grantg> heh
# [22:39] <rgervais> -moz-resample-image: nearest-neighbor
# [22:39] <zewt> what bugs me is how much pushing it is to get any kind of performance hints into HTML/CSS
# [22:39] <grantg> zewt: Anyhow, the audio perf I get on mac for firefox 4 is great
# [22:40] <grantg> you can run it *real close* to 0 ms live play
# [22:40] <grantg> without issues
# [22:40] <zewt> the response is invariably "but in 25 years that might be unnecessary, and your page will now render in lower quality when it doesn't need to" ... which just feels like a lazy-out, since it should really be a hint explaining the performance you want, not a specific "use this particular algorithm" rule
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# [22:40] <zewt> do I have to?
# [22:41] <zewt> heh
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# [22:49] <grantg> f*ck, the pokemon ROM requests coming through my emial
# [22:49] <grantg> *email
# [22:49] <Michael> rofl huh?
# [22:49] <grantg> f*ck that shit
# [22:49] * Michael doesn't ask
# [22:50] <grantg> Michael: b/c some people want to play that in http://www.grantgalitz.org/gameboy/
# [22:50] <Michael> ohhhh
# [22:50] <zewt> grantg: by the way, don't think you need the "close file input" box when opening a local file
# [22:50] <grantg> I should email them back: "Google motherfucker, do you use it?"
# [22:51] <Michael> Does it actually do anything yet?
# [22:51] <grantg> yes
# [22:51] <grantg> because sometimes people hit cancel on the dialog
# [22:51] <Michael> Oh I would need a ROM/
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# [22:51] <Michael> ?
# [22:51] <grantg> so the file dialog sub-window needs to be there
# [22:51] <zewt> why?
# [22:51] <grantg> because firefox 3.X requires the user to click on the button there
# [22:51] <zewt> if they hit cancel, nothing should happen
# [22:52] <grantg> to open the file dialog
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# [22:52] <grantg> zewt: It's because of compat
# [22:52] <zewt> isn't there a feature test for whether HTMLInputElement.click works
# [22:52] <grantg> heh
# [22:52] <zewt> if not, there really needs to be, heh
# [22:53] <zewt> the entire purpose of that method is to not have to show an ugly file input
# [22:53] <grantg> I throw a click anyhow to open the file dialog automatically
# [22:53] <grantg> firefox 3.6 ignores it
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# [22:53] <zewt> right, that's what I mean
# [22:53] <grantg> it ignores the JS click. :/
# [22:53] <zewt> the main purpose of allowing input.click() on file inputs is so you can hide the <input> entirely
# [22:53] <grantg> firefox 4 allows the click though
# [22:53] <zewt> so there should be a feature test to check for 3.6's behavior, which ignores it
# [22:54] <grantg> true
# [22:54] <grantg> but that dialog needs to be there for ff 3.6
# [22:54] <grantg> because the user needs to generate the file dialog
# [22:54] <grantg> ugh
# [22:54] <zewt> that's the point--it should be possible to detect whether click() works, and only show the dialog if it doesn't
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# [22:54] <zewt> er, only show the <input>
# [22:54] <zewt> but I'm trying to think of a way to test that
# [22:55] <grantg> I made it really simple and didn't add any feature detection on that
# [22:55] <grantg> only compat
# [22:55] <grantg> I started it out with the <input> hidden
# [22:55] <grantg> but some browsers wouldn't generate the file dialog if the <input> was hidden
# [22:55] <grantg> and firefox 3.6 and below requires the user to click it
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# [22:56] <grantg> meh
# [22:56] <grantg> if you're using chrome or firefox 4, the dialog open automatically and running a ROM automatically closes the box on my site
# [22:56] <zewt> i like the way the file/url selection works on http://zewt.org/curves/, but it makes no attempt at FF3.6 compat
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# [22:57] <grantg> yeah
# [22:57] <grantg> compat is ugh
# [22:57] <zewt> since it's all webgl anyway
# [22:57] <grantg> heh
# [22:57] <grantg> *opens
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# [22:58] <grantg> heh
# [22:58] <grantg> and firefox 3.5 or so has its own version of fileReader
# [22:58] <grantg> that's blocking
# [22:58] <grantg> rather than async
# [22:59] <zewt> that's "your browser is too old"-territory. heh
# [22:59] <grantg> yup
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# [23:06] <Michael> lol just stumbled across Tracer-T again
# [23:06] <Michael> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM
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# [23:13] <BrianBlakely> Hey guys, check this out: http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/04/12/seeing-the-matrix/
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# [23:13] <BrianBlakely> Am I wrong to say that this can just as easily be accomplished using getComputedStyle (which returns the matrix() instead of the discreet commands)?
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# [23:15] <paul_irish> sweet. i know of like 3 other tools that already did that a year ago. :(
# [23:16] <grantg> heh
# [23:16] <grantg> and
# [23:17] <grantg> TIL you don't need webgl to do complex 3d in js
# [23:17] <grantg> if you know what you're doing
# [23:17] <grantg> re-invent the wheel and use putImageData to blit your own 3d
# [23:17] <grantg> :P
# [23:17] <grantg> better drink your own piss
# [23:18] <grantg> mesa lib in js anyone?
# [23:23] <grantg> paul_irish: Think mesa 3d lib can run fast in js?
# [23:23] <grantg> :P
# [23:23] <paul_irish> oh definitely
# [23:24] <grantg> software-rendered 3d, so IE9 can get some 3d love
# [23:24] <grantg> as well as webgl usage when support isfound
# [23:24] <grantg> *is found
# [23:25] <grantg> It'd have to be hand-optimized of course
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# [23:40] <grantg> heh
# [23:40] <grantg> software devs, if you require 512 MB of VRAM, I am disapoint
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# [23:41] <grantg> A gameboy did it on 0x1800 bytes VRAM
# [23:41] <grantg> And a Gameboy color did it with only double that
# [23:41] <grantg> 0x800 extra for tile mapping
# [23:41] <grantg> :P
# [23:44] <moo-_-> how taxing console.log() is if you don't need the output?
# [23:44] <moo-_-> I just run chrome profiling on a page doing ~50 log entries
# [23:44] <moo-_-> and it takes 2% of time according to the profiler
# [23:45] <moo-_-> or... like 30% of Javascript execution time (what I can see from the functions)
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# [23:48] <grantg> asm devs: I've got 99 bugs, but an IRQ vector ain't one.
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# [23:51] <grantg> Senix: Do a barrel roll!
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# [23:54] <Senix> ._. |: .-. :| ._.
# [23:54] <Senix> grantg: done
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# [23:55] <grantg> heh
# [23:56] <grantg> It's coming from behind!
# [23:56] <grantg> drop altitude!
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# [23:59] <Zeddy> hey, what do when ajax calls return XHR.status of 0 ?
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