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  1. # Session Start: Thu Apr 14 00:00:01 2011
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  16. # [00:08] <gde33> foo
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  20. # [00:16] <Guest4816> hello#?
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  22. # [00:17] <danielfilho> yay! just sent my first pull request to html5-bp :D
  23. # [00:17] <danielfilho> :)
  24. # [00:17] <tw2113> yay!
  25. # [00:17] <danielfilho> and my first pull request ever, actually.
  26. # [00:17] <danielfilho> lol :D
  27. # [00:18] <tw2113> that deserves a beer
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  29. # [00:18] <danielfilho> totally! :D
  30. # [00:20] <tw2113> did you make some significant changes? or just little bits of cleanup here and there?
  31. # [00:21] <danielfilho> not so significant.
  32. # [00:21] <danielfilho> on build.xml, the minification was called before removing console.log()
  33. # [00:21] <BrianBlakely> Yeah, I don't feel comfortable using <video> as primary content for any browser but Safari
  34. # [00:21] <danielfilho> so, the minified version was coming with console.log things
  35. # [00:22] <BrianBlakely> You can't even fullscreen in IE9/FF/Chr
  36. # [00:22] <nimbupani> you can in Opera and latest chrome dev releases
  37. # [00:22] <danielfilho> wait. i got confused on my english.
  38. # [00:22] <danielfilho> hahaha
  39. # [00:23] <danielfilho> tw2113: check this: https://github.com/danielfilho/html5-boilerplate/commit/0843a608eb440b56b0ab46cbda9f5c5c2e7ddf99
  40. # [00:23] <danielfilho> :)
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  42. # [00:25] <tw2113> got it
  43. # [00:28] <danielfilho> well, gotta go. see you :D
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  47. # [00:35] <qom2> can I put svg text in a canvas and interact with it as it was an object?
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  65. # [01:23] <paul_irish> danielfilho: your first pull req ever was accepted, too! \o/
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  75. # [01:58] <tw2113> rock on danielfilho and paul_irish
  76. # [02:00] <tw2113> why do i feel pimp for a qr code to download a .vcf to add me to your phone instantly?
  77. # [02:03] <BrianBlakely> nimbupani: Ah, I didn't test in Chr Dev, that's great!
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  216. # [08:00] <_alcuadrado> Hi there! Can someone explain me the purpose of the .ir and .clearfix classes of the boilerplate please? :)
  217. # [08:01] <_alcuadrado> afaik clearfix is to intended to be used with floats
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  221. # [08:07] <paul_irish> _alcuadrado: correct
  222. # [08:07] <paul_irish> .ir is for common image replacement techniques
  223. # [08:07] <danbeam> https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/css/style.css#L190 heh
  224. # [08:08] <_alcuadrado> i thought it was that, but couldn't figure out the meaning of ir :)
  225. # [08:08] <danbeam> https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/css/style.css#L207 heh x 2
  226. # [08:08] <_alcuadrado> but putting a space befor and after the clearfix doesn't create a space?
  227. # [08:08] <_alcuadrado> height:0, I see
  228. # [08:08] <_alcuadrado> nice trick
  229. # [08:09] <_alcuadrado> oops, sorry, I downloaded a custom version so I don't have the comments, it would helped me
  230. # [08:09] <danbeam> in the words of Mitch Hedberg, "I need to read faster"
  231. # [08:09] <paul_irish> <3 mitch
  232. # [08:09] <danbeam> <3s as well
  233. # [08:09] <_alcuadrado> ? mitch haha
  234. # [08:10] <bot-t> _alcuadrado, Post your short extension functions goodies for jQuery - Stack ... - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/433044/post-your-short-extension-functions-goodies-for-jquery
  235. # [08:10] <danbeam> ? mitch hedberg
  236. # [08:10] <bot-t> danbeam, Blogging About One Day Of Blog Silence - http://www.bennadel.com/blog/666-Blogging-About-One-Day-Of-Blog-Silence.htm
  237. # [08:10] <danbeam> ?g mitch hedberg
  238. # [08:10] <bot-t> danbeam, mitchhedberg.net | Welcome to the new Mitch Hedberg web site! - http://www.mitchhedberg.net/
  239. # [08:10] <_alcuadrado> standup comedian, I see
  240. # [08:11] <danbeam> yup, the awesomest
  241. # [08:11] <_alcuadrado> people in the us loves stand-up, right?
  242. # [08:11] <danbeam> I don't know about all people, but I do
  243. # [08:11] <_alcuadrado> I'm from argentina, and there are just a couple in here
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  253. # [08:26] <danbeam> anybody know the unicode symbol or &htmlentity; for this -> » ?
  254. # [08:27] <danbeam> nvm, 00BB
  255. # [08:28] <chriseppstein> danbeam: or &raquo;
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  259. # [08:30] <phrearch> morning
  260. # [08:30] <phrearch> anyone seen http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/gtk-32-will-let-you-run-any-application.html ?
  261. # [08:30] <phrearch> wonder if thats going to work for qt soon as well
  262. # [08:31] <phrearch> wonder how this is different from say vnc
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  264. # [08:35] <danbeam> chriseppstein: yeah, cool
  265. # [08:35] <danbeam> chriseppstein: thanks
  266. # [08:36] <danbeam> phrearch: VNC is just shipping the pixels over the tubes
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  268. # [08:36] <danbeam> phrearch: this is running your app in a browser and sending metadata (pretty sure...)
  269. # [08:37] <phrearch> danbeam: probably uses remote x11 then
  270. # [08:37] <danbeam> phrearch: it might, not sure
  271. # [08:37] <phrearch> looks pretty cool, but im more waiting for that device api to settle :)
  272. # [08:37] <danbeam> phrearch: yeah, X11 forwarding is pretty close to VNC - my knowledge of their separation blurs there
  273. # [08:38] <phrearch> danbeam: same here
  274. # [08:38] <danbeam> phrearch: guess it's about the same as RDP vs VNC
  275. # [08:38] <danbeam> phrearch: you can send commands rather than raster data
  276. # [08:38] <danbeam> phrearch: ssh -X is a nice trick, though, :)
  277. # [08:38] <snover> ssh -CX is an even nicer trick
  278. # [08:39] * danbeam mans ssh
  279. # [08:39] <danbeam> compression, ah
  280. # [08:39] <phrearch> yea, i tested ssh with x forwarding once. works quite good
  281. # [08:39] <danbeam> isn't the stuff sent over the line JPEG-ish anyways...?
  282. # [08:40] <danbeam> most raster data (if it is that) is probably compressed heavily anyways
  283. # [08:40] <snover> no
  284. # [08:40] <danbeam> but it might hellp?
  285. # [08:40] <danbeam> help*
  286. # [08:40] <danbeam> snover: it's something more compressable?
  287. # [08:41] <snover> I don’t know exactly what format is used but the pixel data that is sent by x11 is not compressed
  288. # [08:42] <snover> it’s probably xpm or something
  289. # [08:42] <danbeam> snover: ah, OK, so you see a speedup, then?
  290. # [08:42] <snover> for remote x11, yes
  291. # [08:42] * danbeam will try it right now, then, :)
  292. # [08:44] <snover> I can’t imagine remote x11 being usable without compression on a WAN connection
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  295. # [08:49] <danbeam> snover: it's not nearly as useful, no, I just tried - nuking all 2mbps of my connection without, at 1mbps with -C
  296. # [08:49] <danbeam> <3 gzip, :)
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  304. # [09:15] <niftylettuce> http://i.imgur.com/y7Hm9.jpg?4668
  305. # [09:15] <niftylettuce> lulz
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  319. # [09:39] <danbeam> niftylettuce: lololol
  320. # [09:39] <danbeam> niftylettuce: just saw that pic
  321. # [09:39] <danbeam> niftylettuce: awesome
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  324. # [09:40] <niftylettuce> lol yeha
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  326. # [09:40] <niftylettuce> dos quis
  327. # [09:40] <niftylettuce> e*
  328. # [09:42] <danbeam> niftylettuce: I'm thirsty now, and there's Dos Equis in the Yahoo! fridge
  329. # [09:42] * danbeam om nom nom delicious dos equis
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  331. # [09:43] <niftylettuce> danbeam: you @ Yahoo!?
  332. # [09:43] <niftylettuce> \p
  333. # [09:43] <niftylettuce> \o*
  334. # [09:47] <danbeam> niftylettuce: yup
  335. # [09:48] <danbeam> at 12:44 am, lulz
  336. # [09:48] <danbeam> niftylettuce: http://twitter.com/#!/danbeam/status/58435574947786752
  337. # [09:48] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/fjdiJD @danbeam: Stay buggy my friends. #mostinteresting http://t.co/B7JQ9Oq
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  343. # [09:55] <niftylettuce> danbeam: baller :)
  344. # [09:56] <danbeam> matjas: heh
  345. # [09:56] <danbeam> niftylettuce: heh**
  346. # [09:57] <niftylettuce> danbeam: when can I come to pair program w/u?
  347. # [09:57] <niftylettuce> danbeam: you guys office in san fran?
  348. # [09:57] <danbeam> niftylettuce: no, I'm in Santa Monica
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  350. # [09:57] <danbeam> niftylettuce: and sadly that was the one and only Dos Equis, haha
  351. # [09:57] <niftylettuce> danbeam: slick, im from PA... going to Cali for a few weeks over summer for a little startup...
  352. # [09:58] <danbeam> niftylettuce: cool
  353. # [09:58] <niftylettuce> danbeam: and yeah dos equis is tasty :)
  354. # [09:58] <danbeam> palabra
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  400. # [12:18] <niftylettuce> \o/ goodnight/day to all from the east coast
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  411. # [12:36] <mikesusz> it seems Chrome is running my javascript before CSS is rendered? is this not news?
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  413. # [12:37] <mikesusz> er, there's some anomaly. i'm not 100% sure that's it.
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  430. # [13:49] <bLUEEE> GUYS
  431. # [13:49] <bLUEEE> if i have a stroke(), how can I fade it on the ends ?
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  436. # [13:54] <jetienne> bLUEEE: look at canvas linecap
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  441. # [13:56] <bLUEEE> jetienne, http://hakim.se/experiments/html5/trail/03/ this kinda fade
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  444. # [14:02] <jetienne> bLUEEE: for this kind of thing, they redraw the pixels with a darker color... until it reach black
  445. # [14:03] <bLUEEE> o_O
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  448. # [14:04] <jetienne> bLUEEE: it isnt hard, you just redraw 2sec later with a darker color. this is the same drawing procedure and all
  449. # [14:05] <bLUEEE> i have a trail already.. so that bit is done..
  450. # [14:06] <bLUEEE> maybe i can set the opactity of the stroke towards the end of the trail ?
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  454. # [14:11] <HM2K> does anyone know how to increase the size of your localStorage quota on Google Chrome?
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  456. # [14:11] <jetienne> HM2K: i think you got more if you are an web app
  457. # [14:12] <jetienne> HM2K: as in chrome web app
  458. # [14:12] <HM2K> sounds wooly :p
  459. # [14:14] <jetienne> HM2K: http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/manifest.html#permissions "unlimitedStorage" Provides an unlimited quota for storing HTML5 client-side data, such as databases and local storage files. Without this permission, the extension is limited to 5 MB of local storage.
  460. # [14:14] <jetienne> this is what i was thinking about
  461. # [14:15] <HM2K> so i godda make it an extension instead?
  462. # [14:16] <jetienne> dunno, check
  463. # [14:17] <HM2K> i am doing, but there's a LOT of information out there
  464. # [14:19] <phrearch> hm, wrote a simple backend plugin system in html5: http://hwios.blogspot.com/2011/04/plasmoid-system-with-infovis.html
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  526. # [17:09] <bLUEEE> jetienne
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  530. # [17:16] <jetienne> is there a ff6 where is ff5 ?
  531. # [17:16] <jetienne> the missing floppy :)
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  545. # [17:51] <bLUEEE> http://pacmaze.com/
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  548. # [17:54] <jetienne> bLUEEE: a pacman in 3D by a nice guy i heard :)
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  551. # [17:58] <Michael> I wanna see a molehill version
  552. # [17:58] <slackrunner> I have an hgroup for a heading with h1 for sitename and h6 for slogan. seems great, but i want the slogan above the sitename visually. can i swap these safely without hurting search results or browser rendering?
  553. # [17:59] <hober> slackrunner: yes
  554. # [17:59] <Michael> yes
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  556. # [17:59] <slackrunner> awesome :)
  557. # [18:00] <gavacho> there's probably a better place to ask this question but here it goes anyways... If I'm using yepnope.js, must it be included in <head> or can I put it at the end of <body>?
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  559. # [18:03] <bLUEEE> http://worldsbiggestpacman.com/
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  563. # [18:06] <Jon47> gavacho..if you're using the one that's integrated into modernizr.. probably it must be in the head, if just yepnope, the footer should be fine
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  576. # [18:32] <gavacho> jon47: much thanks
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  604. # [19:13] <paul_irish> jetienne: nice work on the webgl pacmaze
  605. # [19:13] <jetienne> paul_irish: thanks
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  614. # [19:25] <danbeam> jetienne: that was epic, I got a *crazy alert* that said "WebGL isn't supported" - mind blowing, :)
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  616. # [19:26] <danbeam> jetienne: (I know it's my fault, lol, just messin with you)
  617. # [19:26] <danbeam> linux + graphics drivers = :/
  618. # [19:27] <jetienne> danbeam: yep webgl is not yet mainstream :( but it gonna be good soon
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  629. # [19:33] <danbeam> jetienne: yeah, just pissed of people in #ubuntu about gfx support, lol
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  631. # [19:33] <danbeam> jetienne: inb4 they say "We're open source - patch it yourself" ugh
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  635. # [19:35] <jetienne> danbeam: it depends on the drivers. i got 62fps on pacmaze.com on linux chrome
  636. # [19:35] <danbeam> jetienne: yeah, I understand - I have an SLI box at home with Ubuntu on it that could probably rip it up
  637. # [19:36] <danbeam> jetienne: but overall gfx drivers / Xorg conf is still a *huge* pain point
  638. # [19:37] <danbeam> jetienne: and I'm really really tired of all these call webgl demos that I can't see on my perfectly good new lappy (which has a NV 325M - plenty of horse power, but there are no drivers for it)
  639. # [19:37] <danbeam> jetienne: cool webgl demos**
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  641. # [19:38] <danbeam> I talked to some Chrome devs about this at Google I/O last year - how webgl's gonna be just like reading the back of video games soon - "You need DirectX11/OpenGL2.0 to run this site!"
  642. # [19:38] <_alcuadrado> Can anyone tell me why the <a> surrounding the <h1> is clickable in all the header? I don't get it. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/287771/ai/web/index.html
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  647. # [19:40] <danbeam> _alcuadrado: you wrapped an <a> around an <h1> - that'd make the whole thing an anchor, what's unexpected about this?
  648. # [19:40] <jetienne> on that, going to mozilla party for ff4 in paris :)
  649. # [19:40] <danbeam> jetienne: yay! sounds cool
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  651. # [19:40] <danbeam> jetienne: wearing an FF shirt they gave me on Tuesday right now! :)
  652. # [19:40] <_alcuadrado> but I setted the h1 width: 401px;
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  654. # [19:41] * tw2113 needs to find ways to get some inexpensive/free tech shirts
  655. # [19:41] <Ms2ger`> tw2113, submit patches to Mozilla? :)
  656. # [19:41] <danbeam> _alcuadrado: don't matter - if you don't want something to be "clickable" then move the <a> tag <h1><a>inside the header</a></h1>
  657. # [19:42] <danbeam> tw2113: work for Yahoo! in Santa Monica 3 days ago, :)
  658. # [19:42] * tw2113 nees to find ways to gain more knowledge so he can fix bugs effectively
  659. # [19:42] <snover> _alcuadrado: why do you think the *style* of an element has any relevance to a link’s behaviour?
  660. # [19:42] <_alcuadrado> I used to do that, but as I've read that in html5 <a> can be surrounding block elements I wanted to give it a try
  661. # [19:43] <danbeam> _alcuadrado: you can surround things with <a>'s in HTML4 as well...
  662. # [19:43] <_alcuadrado> I wan't it clicable, but with a fixed width
  663. # [19:43] <snover> danbeam: not block-level elements, not legally
  664. # [19:43] <_alcuadrado> want*
  665. # [19:43] <danbeam> snover: hmmm, you sure?
  666. # [19:43] <snover> yes.
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  668. # [19:43] <snover> at least one version of gecko falls over when you try to do that
  669. # [19:44] <snover> because it wasn’t valid before html5
  670. # [19:44] <danbeam> snover: defaultly inline elements with display:block; in CSS legal, though, ya?
  671. # [19:44] <snover> danbeam: well, the markup is valid in that case, but it doesn’t mean it’ll do what you think it is going to do
  672. # [19:44] <snover> :)
  673. # [19:44] * tw2113 has set links to display block frequently
  674. # [19:44] <danbeam> snover: I could swear I'm doing that one one of my sites (and they all validate XHTML 1.0, but maybe that's diff...)
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  676. # [19:44] <tw2113> helps make whole areas clickable in navigation
  677. # [19:45] <_alcuadrado> do you get why I mean? I thought I was explaining me badly. I do want the h1 to be clickable, as it must be a link, but I don't what its width expanding to it's container width
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  679. # [19:46] <danbeam> snover: seems to work for me in every browser I've ever tried... (Firefox 2-4, IE6-9, Chrome, Opera 8+, Safari 2+)
  680. # [19:46] <tw2113> set the h1 width to some number lower than the container width
  681. # [19:46] <danbeam> snover: that's obviously not an *exhaustive* list, though, as you have more and all of mobile
  682. # [19:46] <_alcuadrado> that's what I did tw2113
  683. # [19:47] <snover> danbeam: <a><h1>foo</h1></a>? or <a><span style="display:block">foo</span></a> ?
  684. # [19:47] <danbeam> snover: latter
  685. # [19:47] <snover> which is pretty awesome if you think about it, isn’t it?
  686. # [19:47] <snover> that the latter works
  687. # [19:47] <snover> and the former falls over
  688. # [19:47] <snover> even though they are exactly the same
  689. # [19:47] <danbeam> snover: yeah, pretty much
  690. # [19:47] <danbeam> snover: tells you how easy it is to fool validators
  691. # [19:48] <snover> you aren’t fooling a validator though
  692. # [19:48] <danbeam> snover: also, have found alot of other restrictions kinda lame...
  693. # [19:48] <snover> the validator looks for semantically valid markup
  694. # [19:48] <danbeam> snover: guess you're right
  695. # [19:48] <snover> the style of those elements is superfluous to that
  696. # [19:48] <snover> goal
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  698. # [19:49] <Samot> janeys got a fun
  699. # [19:49] <danbeam> snover: true
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  701. # [19:50] <tw2113> http://cdn.imgfave.com/image_cache2/1302725122200711.jpeg
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  703. # [19:51] <danbeam> snover: it was always strange to me that <img> isn't block level by default - the use case for putting even moderately big images in text inline (without floating, etc.) seems kinda rare, IMO
  704. # [19:51] <danbeam> snover: (that's what I was thinking was block level and validates inside <a> tags, but they're not)
  705. # [19:52] <danbeam> snover: and if you think of a "block" semantically, you think of a square thing - and images only really exist in squares on the tubes, heh (as far as I know...?)
  706. # [19:53] <zewt> i think what you most often want with is inline-block
  707. # [19:54] <snover> danbeam: historically images were small icons
  708. # [19:54] <snover> not big
  709. # [19:54] <zewt> but inline-block has only been supported sanely relatively recently
  710. # [19:54] <snover> in fact one of the original tag proposals was <icon> instead
  711. # [19:54] <tw2113> i still have yet to really get inline-block
  712. # [19:54] <snover> not much to get
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  714. # [19:55] <zewt> i've never tried to fully understand CSS/HTML flow at a deep level, but I understand inline-block intuitively
  715. # [19:55] <snover> it’s a block element (width, height, margins) that gets placed inline flow
  716. # [19:55] <zewt> right
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  719. # [19:55] <zewt> people often use ugly float layouts when they don't understand inline-block
  720. # [19:56] <danbeam> zewt: it's sanely supported now that Hedger Wang found a cool hack to do it as old as IE6 (or maybe 5.5), so it's not too horrible, no
  721. # [19:56] <danbeam> snover: yeah, that's what I figured
  722. # [19:57] <zewt> it was still pretty glitchy in IE6, iirc, but you can make it work
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  724. # [19:57] <danbeam> zewt: http://danbeam.org/inline-block.html <-- yes, you're right, this is totally what I want my page to look like, :)
  725. # [19:57] <zewt> (the weird *zoom: 1 or whatever hack, iirc?)
  726. # [19:57] <danbeam> zewt: display:inline-block;_zoom:1;_display:block; /* that'd be just 6, yeah */
  727. # [19:57] <danbeam> zewt: * would be both 6/7
  728. # [19:57] <danbeam> zewt: not sure if you need it in 7 though
  729. # [19:58] <zewt> it's not a hack i memorize :P
  730. # [19:58] * ericduran|afk is now known as ericduran
  731. # [19:58] <danbeam> zewt: or if you want valid CSS, conditional comments and .ie6 .ib { min-width: 0; display: block; }
  732. # [19:59] <danbeam> zewt: (min-width also triggers hasLayout the same as zoom, pretty sure...)
  733. # [19:59] <Jon47> ah, good ol hasLayout
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  736. # [20:00] <danbeam> zewt: (or overflow:auto; etc. etc. etc.)
  737. # [20:01] <danbeam> zewt: it's a hack I use whenever setting up a grid system or CSS framework
  738. # [20:01] <danbeam> zewt: very useful
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  746. # [20:11] <zewt> sigh: google images has some workaround for android's weirdo address bar, but I can't find anything about it so I have to reverse engineer the dumb thing
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  750. # [20:18] <moo-_-> zewt: what does it do?
  751. # [20:18] <moo-_-> "weirdo"?
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  756. # [20:21] <zewt> well, you can only scroll the address bar up off the screen if it thinks there's content on the page to scroll *down* into
  757. # [20:21] <zewt> which doesn't make sense for full-screen pages that just fill the window
  758. # [20:21] <zewt> the effect is that if you size a page to the window, you can't scroll the address bar up
  759. # [20:22] <zewt> ... the basic workaround is to add empty padding to the bottom and do scrollTo(0, 1), but that *animates* the scrolling down instead of snapping to the new position like a normal browser, which makes it hard to do cleanly--yet google images somehow does snap it off with no animation
  760. # [20:22] <moo-_-> :I
  761. # [20:22] <zewt> p. much
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  769. # [20:42] <Thasmo> Hello guys! Just wondering - because I've seen and tested this new internet explorer test drive fishtank demo - what's the difference in hardware acceleration in fx4/chrome11/ie9/ie10 is. Does fx4/chrome have "full" hardware acceleration?
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  774. # [20:45] <digitalfiz> anyone know the keyboard command in chrome to get the console in osx?
  775. # [20:45] <phrearch> hm, ctrl+shift-j?
  776. # [20:46] <phrearch> or apple-shift-j for that matter
  777. # [20:46] <digitalfiz> that opens downloads lol
  778. # [20:46] <danbeam> the web inspector?
  779. # [20:46] <digitalfiz> ah its apple+alt+j
  780. # [20:46] <danbeam> command + alt + i
  781. # [20:47] <Jon47> alt-cmd-j, or alt-cmd-i to open it with the javascript console closed
  782. # [20:47] <digitalfiz> ah yes i
  783. # [20:47] <digitalfiz> j brings up the elements
  784. # [20:47] <digitalfiz> i is what i want
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  786. # [20:47] <digitalfiz> still getting used to osx keyboard commands :P
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  789. # [20:49] <danbeam> digitalfiz: I use Syngery (w/my MS Natural) + OS X + VirtualBox - 3 layers of keyboard shortcuts you have to map, lulz (Windows = Apple, Apple = Control (sometimes))
  790. # [20:50] <digitalfiz> im switching between haxintosh and ubuntu so it goes from ctrl+ to windows key+
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  808. # [21:16] <JonathanNeal> Howdy.
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  818. # [21:49] <tw2113> wow, apparently MS isn't allowing IE10 onto Vista
  819. # [21:51] <zewt> well, IE is just another lever for them to try to sell windows upgrades
  820. # [21:52] <paul_irish> zewt: you're glenn, right?
  821. # [21:52] <danielfilho> IE10 will work only on Windows 12. Shipping on 2075's winter.
  822. # [21:52] <zewt> yep
  823. # [21:52] <paul_irish> good to meet you. i've been enjoying your whatwg list domination lately. :D
  824. # [21:52] <zewt> heh
  825. # [21:52] <paul_irish> danielfilho: thanks for the pull
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  827. # [21:53] <zewt> i try not to be too noisy when I first show up on a list, but rarely with much success :)
  828. # [21:53] <danielfilho> paul_irish: hey! just pulling small things to get familiarized with the system. wanna contribute on better things soon :)
  829. # [21:53] <paul_irish> ;)
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  831. # [21:53] <danielfilho> just sent another little one few minutes ago.
  832. # [21:53] <paul_irish> ya i knowww
  833. # [21:53] <danielfilho> great :)
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  837. # [21:55] <tw2113> zewt too bad. with people apparenty not caring about versions, it's not exactly a good selling point
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