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  1. # Session Start: Sat May 07 00:00:00 2011
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  9. # [00:00] <xonecas> o/
  10. # [00:00] <xonecas> whois caligula
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  15. # [00:04] <danbeam> ?g caligula
  16. # [00:04] <bot-t> danbeam, Caligula - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula
  17. # [00:04] <danbeam> :D
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  19. # [00:04] <danbeam> ?g caligula's horse
  20. # [00:04] <bot-t> danbeam, Incitatus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitatus
  21. # [00:05] <danbeam> epic
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  25. # [00:06] <xonecas> danbeam: it's also a friends nickname, I was just checking if he was online :-)
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  29. # [00:10] <Misiur> http://stretchbox.org/testing/QFoch/ - Why does css3pie doesn't work on orange box on the left?
  30. # [00:11] <Misiur> http://www.pasteit.com/40
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  41. # [00:21] <tw2113> woo! new vinyl
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  149. # [04:59] <grantg> tw2113: I'm doing nothing better than http://i.imgur.com/4RCra.png right now. :/
  150. # [05:00] <grantg> ever since dolphin starting working well again on Mac OS X.
  151. # [05:00] <paul_irish> ?g dolphin emulator
  152. # [05:00] <bot-t> paul_irish, Dolphin - Gamecube and Wii Emulator - http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/
  153. # [05:01] <grantg> yup
  154. # [05:01] <paul_irish> dope
  155. # [05:01] <grantg> mario kart wii and nothing better
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  157. # [05:01] <grantg> making my mac toasty. :P
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  159. # [05:02] <tw2113> closest i have is doubledash on gamecube
  160. # [05:02] <grantg> heh
  161. # [05:03] <grantg> The weird thing is the Wii emulator runs faster than the DS emulator. xD
  162. # [05:03] <grantg> something is wrong with this picture. :P
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  164. # [05:03] <grantg> The DS uses 2 CPUs, though 66 mhz is way slower than the wii's 733 or so mhz CPU with a much more demanding GPU emulation.
  165. # [05:04] * grantg opens up utorrent for others to snag mario kart wii. :P
  166. # [05:05] <grantg> ignore that last irc comment. :P
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  169. # [05:07] <tw2113> what are you talking about?
  170. # [05:07] <grantg> tw2113: See the imgur pic
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  172. # [05:08] * tw2113 facepalms
  173. # [05:08] <tw2113> i was acting like i saw none of the convo on purpose
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  176. # [05:08] <grantg> "this is all a simulation"
  177. # [05:09] <tw2113> we're in the matrix?!?!?!?!
  178. # [05:09] <grantg> Necessary disclaimer: "don't take my IRC comments seriously"
  179. # [05:09] <grantg> legalities done. :P
  180. # [05:25] <tw2113> http://imgfave.com/view/1329577
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  185. # [05:29] <grantg> I beat super mario wii. lolwtf
  186. # [05:29] <grantg> without a wiimote
  187. # [05:29] <grantg> don't ask
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  193. # [05:57] <grantg> tw2113: http://i.imgur.com/OqlO7.png
  194. # [05:57] <grantg> lol
  195. # [05:58] <grantg> I don't think anyone remembers that one
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  198. # [06:01] <grantg> http://i.imgur.com/SGxmi.png :)
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  203. # [06:47] <kadiks> grantg, unfortunately I do remember it, and I still have it in a cupboard x-)
  204. # [06:47] <grantg> heh
  205. # [06:48] <grantg> kadiks: This too? http://i.imgur.com/lbd92.png
  206. # [06:49] <kadiks> ofc !
  207. # [06:49] <kadiks> the best
  208. # [06:49] <grantg> runs great on os x. xD
  209. # [06:49] <kadiks> surely runs better with a N64
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  211. # [06:49] <grantg> heh
  212. # [06:50] <grantg> my mac runs it in higher res
  213. # [06:50] <grantg> :P
  214. # [06:50] <kadiks> ^^
  215. # [06:50] <kadiks> I am a purist, I can't sand emulators
  216. # [06:51] <grantg> Can't go wrong with a PS3 emu on os x though. :P
  217. # [06:51] <kadiks> it exists ?
  218. # [06:51] <grantg> </troll>
  219. # [06:52] <grantg> PS2 works well though. ;)
  220. # [06:53] <kadiks> I bought one for just 2 games, it could have been cheaper for me to play it with an emulator ^^
  221. # [06:53] <grantg> heh
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  233. # [07:25] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> digitalfiz: Ever got web audio working?
  234. # [07:25] <digitalfiz> yeah with that patched chrome it worked fine mostly
  235. # [07:25] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> yeah
  236. # [07:25] <digitalfiz> i still had some pops and clicks but i think its just my setup
  237. # [07:26] <digitalfiz> osx doesnt like amd very much is all im sayin :P
  238. # [07:26] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> if you shrink the window some more the clicks might stop
  239. # [07:26] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> oh
  240. # [07:26] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> hackintosh
  241. # [07:26] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> lol
  242. # [07:26] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> chrome goes full retard with canvas rendering
  243. # [07:26] <digitalfiz> :P
  244. # [07:26] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> takes up more CPU time than the actual emulation itself
  245. # [07:27] <digitalfiz> ive had issues on osx and linux since the changes came in for the graphics stuff
  246. # [07:28] <digitalfiz> fps in my games are effected by chrome running or not now
  247. # [07:28] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> heh
  248. # [07:28] <digitalfiz> just chrome on a blank page effects my fps now in a game
  249. # [07:30] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> Even this clicks and pops? http://grantgalitz.org/get_the_hell_out/SuperMarioLand2/
  250. # [07:30] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> Takes up 16% of my CPU total. :P
  251. # [07:30] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> in chrome
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  253. # [07:34] <digitalfiz> nope that dont pop and click
  254. # [07:34] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> yeah
  255. # [07:34] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> probably scaling it in chrome causes chrome to take too long to render
  256. # [07:34] <I_TOLD_YOU_DOG> causing web audio to click and pop
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  447. # [18:04] <shichuan> paul_irish nimbupani: hey guys, do u think these two bugs are related? https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues/367 https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues/447 ?
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  453. # [18:19] <Brodingo> grantgalitz pokemon snappppppppppppppppppp
  454. # [18:19] <grantgalitz> Brodingo: You're late
  455. # [18:21] <grantgalitz> Brodingo: U Jelly?
  456. # [18:22] <Brodingo> VERY
  457. # [18:24] <grantgalitz> Brodingo: Why, you can
  458. # [18:24] <grantgalitz> Brodingo: Why, you can't run it on your computer?
  459. # [18:24] <Brodingo> i could
  460. # [18:24] <Brodingo> lets see what n64 do i have
  461. # [18:25] <grantgalitz> a lot of mac users might be jelly that they might have not known about mupen64plus
  462. # [18:25] <Brodingo> both zeldas and mario kart
  463. # [18:25] <Brodingo> i have project64
  464. # [18:25] <grantgalitz> heh
  465. # [18:25] <grantgalitz> windows then?
  466. # [18:25] <grantgalitz> :P
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  468. # [18:26] <Brodingo> wait a tick
  469. # [18:26] <Brodingo> oh
  470. # [18:26] <Brodingo> sixtyforce
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  472. # [18:26] <grantgalitz> sixtyforce sucks
  473. # [18:26] <grantgalitz> it gets a lot wrong
  474. # [18:26] <Brodingo> so i should dl mupen
  475. # [18:27] <grantgalitz> mupen64plus
  476. # [18:27] <grantgalitz> it
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  479. # [18:27] <grantgalitz> it's probably the only major n64 desktop emu that's still being developed.
  480. # [18:27] <grantgalitz> project64 has been dead for a long time
  481. # [18:27] <Brodingo> hmm cool
  482. # [18:27] <grantgalitz> that beta has been forever beta
  483. # [18:28] <Brodingo> wonder if it runs goemon ok
  484. # [18:29] <grantgalitz> what about wii on your comp?
  485. # [18:29] <Brodingo> wuuuttt
  486. # [18:29] <grantgalitz> beat new super mario bros without a wiimote. like a boss
  487. # [18:29] <Brodingo> i have dolphin on my boot camp
  488. # [18:30] <Brodingo> runs wind waker like a boss
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  490. # [18:30] <grantgalitz> heh
  491. # [18:30] <Brodingo> how do i open this shit
  492. # [18:30] <Brodingo> unzips a .cpgz unzips a .zip
  493. # [18:32] <Brodingo> grantgalitz halp
  494. # [18:32] <grantgalitz> hmm?
  495. # [18:32] <grantgalitz> with what?
  496. # [18:32] <Brodingo> mupen download
  497. # [18:32] <Brodingo> has some circular unzipping
  498. # [18:32] <grantgalitz> http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/downloads/list
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  501. # [18:33] <Brodingo> do i have to have x11 or something
  502. # [18:33] <grantgalitz> just unzip it. </troll>
  503. # [18:33] <grantgalitz> you're on mac right now?
  504. # [18:33] <Brodingo> wtf
  505. # [18:34] <Brodingo> stupid computers
  506. # [18:34] <Brodingo> does it have a ui wtf
  507. # [18:34] <Brodingo> im not a nerd
  508. # [18:35] <grantgalitz> the mac version is all command line
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  511. # [18:36] <Brodingo> oh whats up sixtyforce
  512. # [18:37] <grantgalitz> <_<
  513. # [18:37] <grantgalitz> or if you're really desperate
  514. # [18:37] <Brodingo> im not
  515. # [18:37] <grantgalitz> you can try project64 on wine
  516. # [18:38] <Brodingo> ill just let some nerds do a front end
  517. # [18:38] <Brodingo> and sit idly by
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  549. # [19:42] <paul_irish> Ms2ger: yo
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  551. # [19:44] <Ms2ger> paul_irish, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655328
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  582. # [20:36] <paul_irish> shichuan: i'm just really behind on build script stuff. i dont have time soon to dig in. :/ would love if you or someone took triage of all of them and figured out the right thing to do
  583. # [20:36] <paul_irish> shichuan: also it might be wise to just port it to Rake now
  584. # [20:43] <shichuan> paul_irish: as in Ruby? someone initiated it?
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  586. # [20:45] <paul_irish> someone did it a while ago
  587. # [20:45] <paul_irish> but it was a much smaller scope
  588. # [20:45] <paul_irish> i'm thinking about using sass/compass for css minification and @import inlining
  589. # [20:45] <paul_irish> so theres a ruby dependency
  590. # [20:45] <paul_irish> so if we need ruby then lets just use ruby straigh tup
  591. # [20:47] <shichuan> i see, then i gonna spend a bit time to explore Rake
  592. # [20:49] <nimbupani> shichuan: SAD DAY TODAY
  593. # [20:49] <shichuan> why sad?
  594. # [20:49] <paul_irish> elections
  595. # [20:49] <paul_irish> .sg
  596. # [20:49] <nimbupani> :'(
  597. # [20:49] <shichuan> wow! you guys even know sg elections?
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  599. # [20:49] <nimbupani> YOU GUIZE
  600. # [20:50] <nimbupani> how not shichuan I coulda voted but stupidly didnt register local address
  601. # [20:50] <shichuan> are you a singaporean? or a pr?
  602. # [20:50] <nimbupani> singaporean
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  604. # [20:51] <nimbupani> ahem one of those "FOREIGN TALENTS"
  605. # [20:51] <shichuan> lol, i am a pr and i wanna stay this way
  606. # [20:51] <nimbupani> :)
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  609. # [20:52] <shichuan> a sad day for me also, just cancelled my bali trip cos afraid or revenge
  610. # [20:52] <nimbupani> wattt?
  611. # [20:52] <nimbupani> revenge where?
  612. # [20:52] <shichuan> am i being paranoid?
  613. # [20:52] <nimbupani> VERY MUCH
  614. # [20:53] <shichuan> really? cos you know indo is the biggest muslim country
  615. # [20:53] <nimbupani> oh u mean OBL
  616. # [20:53] <shichuan> yea, and they said they gonna do something about it
  617. # [20:53] <nimbupani> yah u gotta stay away from the drunk white tourist's dream destinations
  618. # [20:53] <nimbupani> u will be safe then
  619. # [20:54] <snover> I can’t help but think you’re still more likely to die from lightning or something
  620. # [20:54] <shichuan> exactly, so no more goa, bali for a while :(
  621. # [20:54] <nimbupani> hahaha
  622. # [20:54] <nimbupani> goa is pretty safe
  623. # [20:54] <nimbupani> it is ruled by Israeli and Russian mafi
  624. # [20:54] <nimbupani> mafia*
  625. # [20:54] <nimbupani> can trust them to be ruthless and efficient
  626. # [20:55] <nimbupani> FRIK POTONG PASIR ALSO GONE
  627. # [20:55] <shichuan> :)
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  630. # [20:56] <shichuan> i never feel like a singaporean
  631. # [20:57] <shichuan> so i dunno much about the local politics
  632. # [20:57] <nimbupani> i only feel so when out of singapore
  633. # [20:57] <groundup> Hi, I am trying to do one simple thing to show my boss that we should move from Flash to HTML5, CSS3, JS, etc. All I want to do is show the sun (and moon) going across a "sky" on an arc with 1440 points of reference. I want to get the minute (it is from a server side script) and place the sun/moon where it should be based on that.
  634. # [20:58] <groundup> So, what I'm looking for is a tutorial that can show me how to create an arc and place an object on that arc.
  635. # [20:58] <shichuan> i mean the govt is good, pretty good policies, and very honest although the words can be harsh
  636. # [20:58] <groundup> Or, at least lead me in the right direction to do so.
  637. # [20:59] <nimbupani> groundup: i am afraid there is no such tutorial yet so you would have to learn on ur own, but there are some css animations that simulate planetary rotations that can help
  638. # [20:59] <nimbupani> http://neography.com/experiment/circles/solarsystem/
  639. # [20:59] <nimbupani> note that it only works on webkit browsers and if used with -moz- prefix on firefox aurora
  640. # [20:59] <groundup> That's what I was thinking would be closest. Even something like a game where a ball is thrown or the classic tank battle game.
  641. # [21:00] <nimbupani> shichuan: yah its okay but thats not enough and very very boring
  642. # [21:00] <groundup> Then I would just change the interval to 60 (as in every 60 seconds, update the object's location on the canvas)
  643. # [21:01] <nimbupani> u coul likely use canvas but i am not sure if thats necessary if all u are doing is move a circle across an arc
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  645. # [21:04] <shichuan> nimbupani: yea, there is very strong identity crisis here in sg as well. so i am going to explore a bit of other places in the world. but will not give up my chinese nationality
  646. # [21:05] <nimbupani> shichuan: cool :)
  647. # [21:09] <groundup> Here goes a basic break down of what I want to do: move the sun across the arc. Inside that arc is a representation of our atmosphere and Earth. In the atmosphere are clouds, rain, fog, etc (weather).
  648. # [21:09] <groundup> I guess I don't need a canvas tag there. Just put some things on the screen
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  650. # [21:12] <nimbupani> u can also use SVG animations for it.
  651. # [21:14] <shichuan> i think some day adobe gonna build a canvas IDE
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  653. # [21:22] <groundup> I don't know what will be the easiest. It is just a proof of concept. We currently use Flash for everything. I don't even want to say to them that we shouldn't use Flash because I think it is great and we have done great things with it, but I want them to be open to not using it when it isn't necessary
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  655. # [21:25] <shichuan> groundup: i use both, when i want to do something quick and dirty, i use flash, when i do something that's pure actionscript, i suggest canvas
  656. # [21:26] <shichuan> groundup: i think it really depends on the time you have and the nature of the work, and of cos the future evolution of canvas, i think canvas is promising, but there is a bit of gap need to be filled
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  659. # [21:27] <groundup> I completely agree.
  660. # [21:28] <craigbarnes> paul_irish: Are you still interested in using make for html5-boilerplate at all?
  661. # [21:29] <craigbarnes> paul_irish: Because I'm whipping up a little shell script to inline @imports for CSS
  662. # [21:29] <groundup> The developers that I work with are more accustomed to Flash. One of them is purposely ignorant to new web based technologies (HTML5, CSS3, etc.) and even said "I bet you can't do what I did in HTML. I told him bluntly that I could and I could do it in a lot less code. Now, how to figure out how to backup what I said ;)
  663. # [21:30] <Ms2ger> Heh
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  667. # [21:39] <craigbarnes> p
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  669. # [21:40] <tw2113> flash is still king in some areas including highly advanced animations
  670. # [21:40] <tw2113> but it's needed a lot less these days
  671. # [21:41] <tw2113> keep him around part time groundup
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  701. # [22:41] <grantg> paul_irish: I blame this crash on chrome: http://i.imgur.com/sqXy8.png :P
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  704. # [22:46] <paul_irish> grantg: not really a crash
  705. # [22:46] <paul_irish> but um
  706. # [22:46] <grantg> :P
  707. # [22:46] <grantg> I'm jk
  708. # [22:46] <paul_irish> yeah ive been getting that a lot lately myself
  709. # [22:46] <paul_irish> its cute
  710. # [22:46] <paul_irish> :D
  711. # [22:46] <paul_irish> man isnt canary nice?
  712. # [22:47] <grantg> A ROM crashed in my emu
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  714. # [22:47] <paul_irish> i reallly enjoy canary now
  715. # [22:47] <paul_irish> what's that FZ?
  716. # [22:47] <grantg> paul_irish: Canary - Y U DO FUZZY MATH?
  717. # [22:47] <paul_irish> haha
  718. # [22:47] <grantg> shit started flickering and going crazy
  719. # [22:48] <grantg> the emulated CPU crashed. :/
  720. # [22:48] <grantg> and started writing to spurious memory locations
  721. # [22:48] <grantg> :/
  722. # [22:48] <paul_irish> ohboy
  723. # [22:48] <grantg> whelp, I gotta take out a debugger for this one.
  724. # [22:50] <grantg> I think I'll just upload what's complete of the mp3 decoder...
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  726. # [22:50] <grantg> I think others should review and help out with it
  727. # [22:51] <grantg> commit patches and code
  728. # [22:54] <grantg> what do you think?
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  732. # [22:58] <paul_irish> i like it
  733. # [22:58] <paul_irish> p_nitsch: were yo at jsconf too?
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