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  86. # [05:37] <niftylettuce> lol @ Brogramming tip... "git some"
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  95. # [06:02] <niftylettuce> ?fpi
  96. # [06:02] <bot-t> fucking paul irish! http://i.imgur.com/gpspl.png
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  99. # [06:03] <niftylettuce> tw2113: <forest>Crickets</forest>
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  112. # [06:44] <enigmus> I had read that html5 was html and that there was not going to be any xhtml equivalent. But http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#What_are_the_differences_between_HTML_and_XHTML.3F says otherwise. What is the position on html5 vs. xhtml5? (Now that the Mime type situation is settled, is there any reason not to use xhtml5?)
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  126. # [07:35] <tw2113> anyone here know if it's possible to literally print a pdf, with an html link?
  127. # [07:35] <tw2113> i have onClick="window.print()" but i can't help but think that's not quite right
  128. # [07:36] <grantg> paul_irish: I found teh leak with WAV PCM data URIs in chrome in Developer Tools
  129. # [07:36] <grantg> Chrome keeps them around, even though they should have been GC'd
  130. # [07:37] <grantg> In the "Other" list for resouces I can see a ginormous list of data:audio/wav;b...
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  132. # [07:37] <grantg> chrome leaks much slower than the webkit nightlies, but it still leaks
  133. # [07:37] <grantg> at about a few hundred kbs a sec
  134. # [07:37] <grantg> while webkit nightlies waterfall it at 15 megs a sec
  135. # [07:39] <grantg> The audio elements generated are never appended to dom and are "forgotten", but webkit doesn't forget them, even though there's absolutely no reference to them left and they're not in the DOM.
  136. # [07:41] <grantg> tw2113: webkit apparently likes to hold on to things that it shouldn't. :/
  137. # [07:41] <grantg> I'm pretty sure this has to be happening in other html5 audio projects...
  138. # [07:42] <tw2113> html5 audio just hates you :P
  139. # [07:42] <grantg> lol
  140. # [07:44] <grantg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmQ5LsNMXZ4
  141. # [07:44] <grantg> 58 seconds into it shit gets real.
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  145. # [07:45] <tw2113> candlebox is playing...i refuse to pause
  146. # [07:46] <grantg> youtube doubler like a boss
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  176. # [08:51] <vier> hey guys, anyone know if there is a nice workaround for <datalist> in chrome? it works in FF
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  201. # [09:47] <vier> anyone here know much about chrome/chromium?
  202. # [09:50] <JNZ> Ask a question, not a question to ask a question.
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  227. # [12:17] <Arimil> Why does the HTML5 validator yell at me for using CSS3?
  228. # [12:17] <Arimil> :\
  229. # [12:17] <Arimil> Most browsers support things like border-raidus now.
  230. # [12:19] <moo-_-> please submit your ideas how to kill internet explorer: http://liilak.com/categories/open_challenge_d5fbd55fceeb0c32f50df0fc
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  269. # [14:18] <eneon> websec
  270. # [14:18] <eneon> of html5
  271. # [14:18] <eneon> is interesting
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  286. # [14:55] <obert-> is it correct <link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="<?php print base_url(); ?>i/favicon.ico"> ?
  287. # [14:55] <obert-> or html5 needs something special?
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  290. # [14:58] <shichuan> moo-_-: i think they are aware of the problem, and the ppl working there are quite sad
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  292. # [14:59] <shichuan> obert-: if your favicon is in the root folder, you don't need that meta tag at all
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  395. # [18:10] <shichuan> nimbupani: your article was very inspiring
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  397. # [18:11] <nimbupani> shichuan: which one?
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  399. # [18:12] <shichuan> nimbupani: about your life decade story. cos now i started freelancing fulltime, i can feel for you. like finally i don't have to cheat client's money anymore
  400. # [18:12] <shichuan> like i finally can sell ideas i believe will work
  401. # [18:12] <nimbupani> hahahaha
  402. # [18:12] <nimbupani> thanks :)
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  404. # [18:12] <shichuan> np :)
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  445. # [18:59] <aleray> hi, how can I use rdfa with html5? can I put xmlns in the html tag?
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  460. # [19:11] <BrianBlakely> aleray: You can use it the same way as you did with XHTML 1.1
  461. # [19:11] <BrianBlakely> aleray: However, you might want to switch to Microdata, the new standard of hotness
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  463. # [19:12] <aleray> BrianBlakely, I saw an example here: http://blog.3kbo.com/2010/11/10/simple-html5-rdfa-example/
  464. # [19:12] <aleray> I don't undertand why he uses xmlns xhtml 4
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  468. # [19:14] <BrianBlakely> aleray: That is still the way XHTML5 works, just with the new element rules
  469. # [19:14] <BrianBlakely> aleray: No real change
  470. # [19:14] <BrianBlakely> ?g xhtml5
  471. # [19:14] <bot-t> BrianBlakely, The WHATWG Blog XHTML5 in a nutshell - http://blog.whatwg.org/xhtml5-in-a-nutshell
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  473. # [19:16] <aleray> BrianBlakely, what if I want to go for html5 vs xhtml5?
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  478. # [19:20] <BrianBlakely> aleray: Come again?
  479. # [19:21] <aleray> BrianBlakely, I'm jut confused by seeing xmlns attributes in a non xml format
  480. # [19:23] <BrianBlakely> aleray: Any HTML can be XHTML if you serve it with the correct MIME type. I write XHTML, but I don't even serve it up correctly! It just too big of a bother most of the time when dealing with clients' 500 different environments. :)
  481. # [19:25] <aleray> BrianBlakely, http://dpaste.com/540458/ so this does look right to you?
  482. # [19:27] <BrianBlakely> aleray: Remove the "version" attribute, no longer needed
  483. # [19:28] <BrianBlakely> But otherwise, I don't see anything egregious here
  484. # [19:28] <aleray> BrianBlakely, thanks
  485. # [19:28] <BrianBlakely> np
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  533. # [20:32] <BrianBlakely> The aliasing with CSS transform: rotate() is out of control
  534. # [20:33] <BrianBlakely> Stair-stepping on borders >_<
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  536. # [20:33] <BrianBlakely> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36902
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  538. # [20:34] <BrianBlakely> Oof, I loath years-long bugs :/
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  542. # [20:38] <BrianBlakely> Bug talks about this applying only to images, but in my case it's about border rendering
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  555. # [21:08] <tw2113> anyone have any idea how to start printing a pdf from the click of a link?
  556. # [21:08] <tw2113> or is that overstepping too much BS
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  578. # [21:49] <Jon47> is there any element that is inline-block by default?
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  609. # [22:33] <BrianBlakely> Jon47: <img> kind of acts like it, but I think the default is output as "inline"
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  611. # [22:34] <BrianBlakely> Jon47: Buuut, probably not strictly
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  614. # [22:37] <Jon47> brianblakely word, thank you
  615. # [22:37] <BrianBlakely> :D
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