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  1. # Session Start: Thu May 12 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
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  4. # [00:04] <tw2113> former addict?
  5. # [00:04] <tw2113> :D
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  7. # [00:04] <grantg> tw2113: you?
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  9. # [00:04] <grantg> Is it using webgl?
  10. # [00:04] <tw2113> nah, i never got that deep with angry birds
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  12. # [00:08] <grantg> just say no
  13. # [00:08] <tw2113> i have it on the droid, but it's got some dust on it
  14. # [00:10] <grantg> WebGL has been tainted by the usage of it for angry birds.
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  16. # [00:11] <tw2113> i think i heard something about a canvas version
  17. # [00:11] <Jayflux> wow how did they get angry birds on chrome
  18. # [00:11] <tw2113> i may be wrong though
  19. # [00:12] <grantg> Jayflux: they ported it to javascript
  20. # [00:12] <Jayflux> grantg would that not have taken AGESS? I don't understand how videos and stuff are ported to js
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  28. # [00:23] <grantg> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/aknpkdffaafgjchaibgeefbgmgeghloj
  29. # [00:23] <grantg> no no no no noooooo
  30. # [00:24] <tw2113> not quite sure what your issue is with the game
  31. # [00:25] <tw2113> unless it's just overhyped to you
  32. # [00:25] <grantg> tw2113: Ever been around iphone people who go crazy over this?
  33. # [00:25] <tw2113> nope, i avoid iphone types when i can
  34. # [00:26] <grantg> k
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  40. # [00:30] <grantg> tw2113: This is how I feel when surrounded by angry birds people - http://www.youlaughyouwin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/catinajar.jpg
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  72. # [01:26] <BrianBlakely> Why would Angry Birds use Flash for audio, instead of <audio>?
  73. # [01:26] <BrianBlakely> Anyone have an idea?
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  75. # [01:27] <grantg> easy way for cross-browser
  76. # [01:27] <BrianBlakely> Angry Birds only works in Webkit, I believe
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  78. # [01:31] <BrianBlakely> sheeerug
  79. # [01:31] <grantg> works in firefox 4 for me
  80. # [01:31] <BrianBlakely> Oh yah?
  81. # [01:31] <BrianBlakely> Cool
  82. # [01:31] <grantg> and it works in IE9
  83. # [01:31] <BrianBlakely> GTFO
  84. # [01:31] <grantg> the chrome thing is a marketing thing
  85. # [01:31] <grantg> for chrome app store
  86. # [01:33] <tw2113> i think they're trying to make it as portable as possible
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  88. # [01:33] <tw2113> but using chrome gets you some extra levels etc
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  91. # [01:42] <grantg> ____
  92. # [01:42] <grantg> (. \
  93. # [01:42] <grantg> \ |
  94. # [01:42] <grantg> \ |___(\--/)
  95. # [01:42] <grantg> __/ ( . . )
  96. # [01:42] <grantg> "'._. '-.O.'
  97. # [01:42] <grantg> '-. \ "|\
  98. # [01:42] <grantg> '.,,/'.,,
  99. # [01:46] <grantg> /^--^\ /^--^\ /^--^\
  100. # [01:46] <grantg> \____/ \____/ \____/
  101. # [01:46] <grantg> / \ / \ / \
  102. # [01:46] <grantg> | | | | | |
  103. # [01:46] <grantg> \__ __/ \__ __/ \__ __/
  104. # [01:46] <grantg> |^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^\ \^|^|^|^/ /^|^|^|^|^\ \^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|
  105. # [01:46] <grantg> | | | | | | | | | | | | |\ \| | |/ /| | | | | | \ \ | | | | | | | | | | |
  106. # [01:46] <grantg> ########################/ /######\ \###########/ /#######################
  107. # [01:46] <grantg> | | | | | | | | | | | | \/| | | | \/| | | | | |\/ | | | | | | | | | | | |
  108. # [01:46] <grantg> |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|
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  113. # [01:55] <obert-> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078718/quotes#qt0436687
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  126. # [02:26] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: if their audio is proprietary it might not work with <audio> (inb4 I'm dumb)
  127. # [02:26] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: also, they might plan to support other browsers
  128. # [02:26] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: that don't have HTML5 <audio>
  129. # [02:26] <BrianBlakely> danbeam: It's a Canvas app, not sure which browsers have Canvas and not Audio
  130. # [02:27] <BrianBlakely> danbeam: Proprietary might be an issue, because their entire graphics sheet was already dragged down and distributed :D
  131. # [02:28] <BrianBlakely> High res AB art in a single PNG
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  137. # [02:33] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: how you fix not having <canvas> ?
  138. # [02:34] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: (hint: the answer is the same as when you don't have HTML5 <audio>, :P)
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  141. # [02:38] <BrianBlakely> danbeam: That can't be the reason that audio is done with Flash. Why arbitrarily pick one aspect to make more portable to Flash? My guess, aside from FF's lack of support for MP3, is that performance on various platforms was sloppy.
  142. # [02:41] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: maybe, but ... I maintain one of the bigger-ish audio players on the net (Yahoo! Media Player) and we use Flash (as does SoundManager2) because it's been there forever and you still need to fall back to it for alot of IEs
  143. # [02:41] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: and there are licensing issues with embedding .mp3 decoding in browsers, AFAIK
  144. # [02:42] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: I need to look, but if you want to embed Firefox on Linux by default, I'm not sure what license you need to have -- probably GPL or something
  145. # [02:42] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: so .mp3 playback can be a surprisingly annoying feature
  146. # [02:43] <BrianBlakely> Huh, wow
  147. # [02:43] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: default Ubuntu and all other Linux distros don't have *any* mp3 playback by default, you have to install like codecs-ugly or whatever it's called (gstreamer-plugins-ugly)
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  149. # [02:44] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: but research yourself, I might be full of shit
  150. # [02:44] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: but I don't think angry birds would have issues transcoding to .ogg for this, lol
  151. # [02:45] <BrianBlakely> danbeam: Whenever I have the luxury of being able to use <audio>, I shall ;)
  152. # [02:45] <danbeam> BrianBlakely: I work solely on a client-side media player in JavaScript and I haven't really used it much yet, so I feel you
  153. # [02:46] <BrianBlakely> danbeam: Say, I sent a request to your buddy Alex, asking him to start a Github proj for Gradient Generator
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  206. # [04:27] <danbeam> paul_irish: Y U NO I/O ABOUT ANYTHING BUT ANDROID AND CHROME?
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  208. # [04:28] <danbeam> paul_irish: also, I'm never getting fucking tickets to I/O again ever -- a tablet and a chromebook?! it will be sold out in fucking 3 seconds next year
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  213. # [04:35] <danbeam> paul_irish: and lastly, Y NO LET ME XSS CHROME USERS NO MOAR? (Refused to execute a JavaScript script. Source code of script found within request.)
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  258. # [06:56] <tw2113> wanna know something a little odd cgcardona ?
  259. # [06:56] <cgcardona> whats up?
  260. # [06:57] <tw2113> looking through json from a twitter search is strangely fun
  261. # [06:57] <tw2113> http://search.twitter.com/search.json?q=from:tw2113
  262. # [06:57] <cgcardona> example?
  263. # [06:57] <cgcardona> wowz
  264. # [06:58] <tw2113> i'm glad i typed that in the browser instead of copying from a print_r()
  265. # [06:58] <tw2113> which is what i was doing, but the browser gave me a formatted version
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  267. # [06:59] <cgcardona> if that's formatted I don't want to see unformatted
  268. # [06:59] <tw2113> this is what i get for tinkering with previously used code for other things, and wanting a better way to do things
  269. # [06:59] <tw2113> http://trexthepirate.com/flipped_twitter/
  270. # [07:00] <tw2113> wanna know hy i'm even bothering? :D
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  275. # [07:03] <cgcardona> sure why?
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  277. # [07:03] <tw2113> because i wanted to create a container that will hold a bunch of tweets, but with CSS animations, i'd turn it 180 degrees :D
  278. # [07:07] <shichuan> hey guys, is the david walsh sometimes comes to this room the guy from mootools?
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  282. # [07:14] <onr> could you suggest me a javascript book?
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  284. # [07:14] <onr> *for begginers*
  285. # [07:15] <onr> s/beginner/begginer/
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  287. # [07:17] <shichuan> onr: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596101992
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  289. # [07:19] <shichuan> the best book on javascript i read is JavaScript Patterns by Stoyan Stefanov, but not so for beginner. JavaScript: The Definitive Guide is good
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  292. # [07:24] <onr> shichuan: thank you very much. im gonna read both
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  306. # [07:36] <shichuan> np :)
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  308. # [07:37] <tw2113> cgcardona still there?
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  334. # [08:49] <grantg> tw2113: I gave that bitch a custom DeSmuME build for mac: http://www.grantgalitz.org/DeSmuME.zip
  335. # [08:49] <grantg> bitches love custom builds
  336. # [08:49] <tw2113> eat this http://trexthepirate.com/flipped_twitter/index.php
  337. # [08:49] <grantg> x64 optimized and built on 10.6
  338. # [08:50] <grantg> heh
  339. # [08:50] <grantg> this build runs way better on mac than the official DeSmuME builds
  340. # [08:50] <grantg> and this is 0.9.7 not 0.9.6 that the official for mac is at
  341. # [08:50] <tw2113> i have no idea what that is
  342. # [08:51] <grantg> DeSmuME is a nintendo ds emulator
  343. # [08:51] <tw2113> oh yeah, i have a 90 degree version of that page too
  344. # [08:51] <tw2113> forgot to mention that
  345. # [08:51] <tw2113> also: ahhh emulators
  346. # [08:51] <grantg> I couldn't wait any longer
  347. # [08:51] <grantg> :P
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  357. # [09:15] <grantg> haters gonna hate: http://i.imgur.com/tppeZ.png
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  422. # [12:20] <phrearch> heh, ff4 is still alot slower than webkit v8 it seems
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The end :)