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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jun 17 17:54:25 2011
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  4. # [17:54] * Topic is 'Welcome, amigos :: Ask any question about html5 & Friends. || Author Spec: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/ || Full spec: http://whatwg.org/html5 || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.org http://mzl.la/9giLwR http://html5homi.es'
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  17. # [18:14] <Rik`> hello
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  20. # [18:16] <Rik`> with <canvas>, bezierCurveTo and clip, I'm seeing some aliasing
  21. # [18:16] <Rik`> http://debug.cdjv.net/ click on second tab "Monkey Island sacré" to see the artefacts
  22. # [18:16] <Rik`> any way to improve that ?
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  33. # [18:26] <Rik`> no activity around here ?
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  41. # [18:59] <paul_irish> ff5 ships next week
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  51. # [19:10] <chrislorenz> paul_irish: *cough* chrome wins *cough*
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  53. # [19:10] <paul_irish> ?
  54. # [19:10] <chrislorenz> paul_irish: I just can't get excited about FF releases anymore.. FF4 was so dissapointing
  55. # [19:10] <paul_irish> ff5 is good
  56. # [19:10] <nimbu> animations!
  57. # [19:10] <paul_irish> and ff4 was like MAASSSSSIVE over 3.6
  58. # [19:10] <paul_irish> just took forever to get
  59. # [19:11] <chrislorenz> Every machine I have run it on has been dog slow and has memory leaks
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  73. # [19:12] <tw2113> can't deny that chrome is still faster on startup
  74. # [19:14] <chrislorenz> That being said... I have to admit debugging js on Firebug is much less painless than web inspector
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  76. # [19:14] <nlogax> so it's more painful?
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  81. # Session Start: Fri Jun 17 19:36:26 2011
  82. # Session Ident: #html5
  83. # [19:36] * Now talking in #html5
  84. # [19:36] * Topic is 'Welcome, amigos :: Ask any question about html5 & Friends. || Author Spec: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/ || Full spec: http://whatwg.org/html5 || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.org http://mzl.la/9giLwR http://html5homi.es'
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  92. # [19:41] <miketaylr> beeviz: required works in Opera on your forms demo
  93. # [19:41] <miketaylr> btw
  94. # [19:42] <miketaylr> http://miketaylr.com/post/bf6ae440.png
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  97. # [19:42] <miketaylr> the <inputs> are missing @name, which means they won't get sent to the server
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  112. # [20:05] <beeviz> miketaylr which opera version do you use?
  113. # [20:05] <miketaylr> beeviz: i'm on Opera Next right now
  114. # [20:05] <miketaylr> beeviz: but @required has been in since about v9
  115. # [20:06] <beeviz> the inputs are missing @name since it's for demonstration and there's no need to send them to the server i think ;)
  116. # [20:06] <miketaylr> well, it won't actually send anything
  117. # [20:06] <beeviz> but i should add it for validation
  118. # [20:06] <miketaylr> yeah
  119. # [20:06] <beeviz> thanks
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  122. # [20:06] <miketaylr> np
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  139. # [20:37] <alisalaah> basilgohar, your old site is not very HTML5/CSS3'ish
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  152. # [20:49] <basilgohar> alisalaah: My old site is old. Like...ancient. Last update was probably 4 years ago.
  153. # [20:50] <basilgohar> "Sunday, January 20th, 2008 3:07 PM"
  154. # [20:50] <basilgohar> So, 3 1/2 years ago.
  155. # [20:50] <basilgohar> It is standards-compliant, though.
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  179. # [21:36] <paul_irish> beeviz: i think you should contribute these to html5demos.com
  180. # [21:36] <paul_irish> i can connect you to remy
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  183. # [21:46] <tw2113> +1
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  191. # [22:01] <alisalaah> paul_irish, I'm in progress on a site that would have some decent html5 features and such, I could submit it to that when complete
  192. # [22:02] <alisalaah> i was curious how you would suggest offline caching when the images + mp3's used on the site are quite large.. in usage I'm using AJAX ofcourse but if the user had to download it all for offline caching it would probably be unrealistic though so that was a possible barrier to offline moding the site
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  194. # [22:06] <CyberKatze> how can i upload file with $.ajax ???? i have FORM with INPUT file und JSscript. i send daten in php.script+1 file.......... i receive back empty $_FILES["upfile"]["tmp_name"] ???? what can i do???
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  200. # [22:08] <CyberKatze> how can i upload file with $.ajax ???? i have FORM with INPUT file und JSscript. i send daten in php.script+1 file.......... i receive back empty $_FILES["upfile"]["tmp_name"] ???? what can i do???
  201. # [22:09] <danheberden> ?g ajax uploading html5 api @ CyberKatze
  202. # [22:09] <bot-t> CyberKatze, AJAX Uploading with HTML5's File API | if then else - http://timothypoon.com/blog/2011/05/10/ajax-uploading-with-html5s-file-api/
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  205. # [22:11] <CyberKatze> can i with html5 api upload file with some any input type from forms?
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  210. # [22:15] <danheberden> CyberKatze perhaps better articulate your question and perform some google searches, ya?
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  220. # [22:44] <tw2113> http://laserey.es/
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  233. # [23:16] <_uf0> trying to convince my corporate to use font-face as I said before
  234. # [23:17] <_uf0> are there any big websites using @font-face?
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  236. # [23:17] <_uf0> if so, please list
  237. # [23:20] <tw2113> which is the bigger issue? browser support or the "fear" of putting their font on a server
  238. # [23:20] <basilgohar> _uf0: I think Google has used it on some sites, perhaps related to WebM or otherwise.
  239. # [23:20] <basilgohar> I forget where I saw it.
  240. # [23:20] <basilgohar> If I find it, I'll share it here (If I remember).
  241. # [23:21] <_uf0> plz i'd appreciate that hugely
  242. # [23:21] <_uf0> their fear is licensing...
  243. # [23:21] <_uf0> and folks using it as a web font and the EULA agreements
  244. # [23:22] <_uf0> if I can just show them some big websites using, it'll make my case
  245. # [23:22] <_uf0> for WebOnly feature
  246. # [23:22] <_uf0> at least
  247. # [23:22] <_uf0> but I've looked and searched and have not seen it anywhere
  248. # [23:22] <_uf0> not even twitter
  249. # [23:23] <tw2113> i think most of the BIG sites are going to be notably slow in adapting the new shit
  250. # [23:23] <_uf0> twitter has been adapting alot of new html5 features
  251. # [23:23] <_uf0> i was suprised no font-face though
  252. # [23:23] <_uf0> and google of course too
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  255. # [23:25] <tw2113> personally i want to tell them to suck it up and accept it
  256. # [23:25] <tw2113> chances are most people won't bother
  257. # [23:26] <tw2113> and those that do, will know how to do it anyway or find it elsewhere
  258. # [23:26] <_uf0> if it were that easy I'd do the same.
  259. # [23:27] <tw2113> or they can stick to the traditional websafe fonts, or use images for their fancy text
  260. # [23:27] <tw2113> i wonder if you can restrict access to the files with htaccess
  261. # [23:27] <tw2113> i know you could for at least accessing the directory
  262. # [23:28] <_uf0> hmm that'd be a great solution
  263. # [23:28] <tw2113> are you even legally allowed to name the font?
  264. # [23:28] <_uf0> so they can't access ANY files at all
  265. # [23:29] <tw2113> be careful with that idea though, i don't know how flexible it is, it may prevent the browser from accessing too
  266. # [23:30] <_uf0> yea of course
  267. # [23:30] <_uf0> it's a thought though
  268. # [23:31] <tw2113> but like i said, most corporation website are probably still in the 90s/early 00's for methods
  269. # [23:31] <tw2113> just because it's insanely hard to upgrade everything
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  271. # [23:32] <_uf0> well the idea is not to upgrade
  272. # [23:32] <_uf0> but moving forward
  273. # [23:32] <_uf0> use new technologies
  274. # [23:32] <_uf0> any new sites that is
  275. # [23:33] <_uf0> I'm tired of using images or flash embedded fonts
  276. # [23:33] <_uf0> cufon may be an alternative but..
  277. # [23:33] <_uf0> still uses javascript
  278. # [23:34] <tw2113> that's another one i kind of smirk at...the people who fear the joe users who have javascript disabled
  279. # [23:34] <tw2113> not saying you do
  280. # [23:34] <tw2113> but you know
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  283. # [23:38] <_uf0> oh yea that's old news for me
  284. # [23:38] <_uf0> we're past that :)
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  290. # [23:53] <paul_irish> _uf0: do you mean sites using @ff but not typekit?
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  293. # [23:55] <_uf0> not sure what typekit is
  294. # [23:55] <_uf0> i'm talking about @font-face yes
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  297. # [23:56] <tw2113> ?g typekit
  298. # [23:56] <bot-t> tw2113, Typekit - http://typekit.com/
  299. # [23:56] <basilgohar> http://stream.zaytoon.hidayahonline.net:8000/basil-at-work.ogv
  300. # [23:56] <basilgohar> Me at work, for anyone who wants to tune in.
  301. # [23:57] <_uf0> paul_irish: if you know of any popular sites using font-face plz list or pm me
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  303. # [23:58] * basilgohar really should have embedded that in a <video> tag to be appropriate here, 'eh?
  304. # [23:58] <_uf0> thx tw2113
  305. # [23:58] <_uf0> looks interesting.
  306. # [23:59] <_uf0> whoa typekit looks very promising
  307. # [23:59] <_uf0> how the f I didn't know about this.
  308. # [23:59] <_uf0> this might solve the issue altogether
  309. # Session Close: Sat Jun 18 00:00:00 2011

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