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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jun 18 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
  3. # [00:00] <tw2113> hopefully the font your company wants is here
  4. # [00:00] <tw2113> there*
  5. # [00:00] <tw2113> and it is another js solution
  6. # [00:01] <_uf0> oh JS is involved? err
  7. # [00:01] <_uf0> was hoping strictly css
  8. # [00:01] <tw2113> http://help.typekit.com/customer/portal/articles/6780-adding-fonts-to-your-site
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  10. # [00:01] <littlebearz> tw2113: why don't you just host the ttf file on your own server?
  11. # [00:02] <tw2113> i have no issue with @font-face, it's _uf0's company that's uptight
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  13. # [00:04] <littlebearz> ah
  14. # [00:05] <_uf0> :) if it were up to MY company I wouldn't give a eff about typekit
  15. # [00:05] <_uf0> this for corp company i work for
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  18. # [00:05] <_uf0> i'm trying to move them off infamous images and swf
  19. # [00:05] <_uf0> to font-face :)
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  21. # [00:06] <tw2113> they're worried about 3 teenagers stealing the font
  22. # [00:06] <_uf0> lol
  23. # [00:07] <snover> JS for fonts sucks
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  25. # [00:08] <_uf0> snover: agree 100% percent
  26. # [00:09] <littlebearz> tw2113: hun? 3 teenagers?
  27. # [00:09] <snover> the only nice thing about typekit is that you get access to a huge font library for free
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  29. # [00:09] <littlebearz> hey, i'm happy with times new roman xd
  30. # [00:09] <tw2113> littlebearz the company is worried that people will steal the fonts from the server
  31. # [00:10] <snover> because that’s totally impossible with typekit…
  32. # [00:10] <tw2113> except my head says most people aren't going to bother
  33. # [00:10] <littlebearz> tw2113: O.o, put it on AWS or something
  34. # [00:10] <littlebearz> tw2113: yeah, i agree, they could steall anything if they really put the effort into it
  35. # [00:11] <_uf0> it's not only that
  36. # [00:11] <_uf0> folks will be able to download the WOFF format and use it as a web font
  37. # [00:11] <_uf0> on their website
  38. # [00:11] <tw2113> like i said...steal the fonts :P
  39. # [00:11] <_uf0> yea..
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  41. # [00:11] <thatryan> tw2113: stop stealing
  42. # [00:12] <snover> typekit: http://zetafleet.com/i/4dfbd02627921.png
  43. # [00:12] * tw2113 shuts down transmission bittorrent
  44. # [00:12] <littlebearz> i use utorrent
  45. # [00:12] <_uf0> heh
  46. # [00:12] <littlebearz> forced to use win 7 enterprise :(
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  48. # [00:17] <_uf0> :) I can i found two sites using fontface
  49. # [00:17] <_uf0> http://www.newyorker.com/
  50. # [00:17] <_uf0> http://gizmodo.com/
  51. # [00:18] <_uf0> finally need more, looking at typekit
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  54. # [00:33] <thatryan> is there a quick shortcut to clear chrome cache? or plugin?
  55. # [00:33] <snover> no
  56. # [00:33] <snover> maybe a plugin
  57. # [00:33] <snover> nothing built in
  58. # [00:35] <thatryan> gotcha, thanks!
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  123. # [02:19] <tw2113> taylr
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  177. # [04:53] <tw2113> how's miketaylr
  178. # [04:54] <miketaylr> hey man
  179. # [04:54] <bot-t> (28 mins 40 secs ago) <nimbu> tell miketaylr making me work so hard!!
  180. # [04:54] <tw2113> :O you're making divya work?!?!?
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  183. # [04:55] <miketaylr> inorite
  184. # [04:57] <tw2113> i wish laptop speakers didn't suck so hard sometimes
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  210. # [06:18] <tw2113> heey yo guis!!! </sloth>
  211. # [06:19] <thatryan> I love you chunk
  212. # [06:19] <tw2113> chunk love sloth nohomo
  213. # [06:20] <thatryan> oh nohomo, <strong>cool</strong>
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  235. # [08:15] <LoneStar99> why when drawing on canvas do random vertical lines appear?
  236. # [08:15] <LoneStar99> sorry diagonal lines
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  439. # [18:28] <shichuan> paul_irish: i got users ask me what h5bp is licensed under. GPL? or is it even licensed? :)
  440. # [18:28] <paul_irish> public domain
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  442. # [18:28] <paul_irish> course modernizr/jquery/etc all have their own licenses
  443. # [18:28] <paul_irish> jq is mit/gpl. modernizr is mit/bsd.
  444. # [18:30] <shichuan> arh, i am not so good at these terms, ok i will just say public domain
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  446. # [18:31] <paul_irish> ok
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  450. # [18:40] <shichuan> necolas: why the *font-size:small is removed from https://gist.github.com/1024797 ?
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  473. # [19:24] <necolas> shichuan: why not?
  474. # [19:24] <bot-t1> (13 hours 5 mins ago) <JonathanNeal> tell necolas, I didn't mean to, I'll fix it.
  475. # [19:24] <bot-t1> (13 hours 2 mins ago) <JonathanNeal> tell necolas, I don't see "public domain", but I thought MIT/GPL was the best license.
  476. # [19:24] <bot-t1> (13 hours 1 min ago) <JonathanNeal> tell necolas, afaik it's the best setup for commercial products that need to use it. They have issues with super free stuff, I've heard.
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  478. # [19:26] <shichuan> necolas: i thought it was there for ie zooming? no?
  479. # [19:26] <necolas> if ie6/7 zooming is wanted, then we should set the base font-size in ems
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  481. # [19:27] <shichuan> i am just wondering why it was there before
  482. # [19:27] <nimbu> coz it was part of eric meyer's reset css
  483. # [19:28] <shichuan> ok, means no reason
  484. # [19:28] <shichuan> got it
  485. # [19:28] <nimbu> :D
  486. # [19:28] <shichuan> :)
  487. # [19:28] <necolas> it wasnt part of meyer's reset
  488. # [19:28] <nimbu> o?
  489. # [19:28] <nimbu> oops
  490. # [19:28] <necolas> it was part of YUI fonts afaik
  491. # [19:28] <nimbu> i thought it was
  492. # [19:28] <nimbu> ah
  493. # [19:28] <nimbu> right
  494. # [19:28] <nimbu> SORRY
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  496. # [19:29] <shichuan> but no matter from where, they all never explain
  497. # [19:29] <necolas> im cool with using 0.8125em to preserve zooming in ie6/7 for people who want it
  498. # [19:30] <shichuan> i heard a lot of companies are going to drop ie7 soon
  499. # [19:30] <shichuan> like gmail etc
  500. # [19:30] <necolas> sweet
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  502. # [19:31] <shichuan> :)
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  505. # [19:33] <shichuan> think i am gonna revise the css wiki soon
  506. # [19:34] <shichuan> what you guys recommand? shall i do it in a oksoclap first?
  507. # [19:35] <shichuan> necolas numbu pau_irish: i dont want to make no assumptions about what ppl know, means every single line is gonna be explained
  508. # [19:35] <necolas> a lot of that wiki is going to be describing normalize. the rest will be responsive stuff
  509. # [19:35] <necolas> shichuan: yeah i need to do the wiki for normalize for the same reason
  510. # [19:36] <shichuan> but the wiki is live, shall we do a draft somewhere or just change directly on it?
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  513. # [19:41] <MikeSmith> "Incorporated Rhino CLI" https:/​/​github.com/​stubbornella/​csslint/​blob/​master/​CHANGELOG
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  515. # [19:41] <MikeSmith> what do that mean
  516. # [19:41] <MikeSmith> I wonder
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  519. # [19:43] <paul_irish> yeah.. i thought the CLI was node based..
  520. # [19:43] <paul_irish> also
  521. # [19:43] <paul_irish> https://github.com/ricardrobin/Regions.js css3 regions polyfill
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  524. # [19:47] <shichuan> paul_irish: shall i add it under HTML5 Cross Browser Polyfills?
  525. # [19:48] <paul_irish> the author is going to add it
  526. # [19:48] <paul_irish> he just emailed me to ask
  527. # [19:48] <shichuan> ok, cool
  528. # [19:48] <paul_irish> maybe its time to make that page real.
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  530. # [19:50] <shichuan> like h5bp doc style?
  531. # [19:51] <shichuan> if you search html5 polyfills, it's already the first result
  532. # [19:56] <necolas> paul_irish: i heard you'd like an epic commit message for the normalize commit?
  533. # [19:56] <paul_irish> I WOULD
  534. # [19:56] <paul_irish> ECM! pLZ
  535. # [19:56] <paul_irish> shall we start a clap to draft?
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  537. # [19:58] <necolas> yeah!
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  539. # [20:01] <paul_irish> okay you start ! :)
  540. # [20:03] <necolas> what's the url to that thing again?
  541. # [20:04] <paul_irish> oksoclap.com
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  544. # [20:05] <MikeSmith> paul_irish: btw, thanks for maintaining that chrome standards status page
  545. # [20:06] <paul_irish> yeah!
  546. # [20:06] <paul_irish> i should push out an update.
  547. # [20:06] <MikeSmith> well, you doing a much better job than previously already
  548. # [20:06] <paul_irish> heh yah
  549. # [20:07] <MikeSmith> rest of those dudes apparently can't be arsed to do it
  550. # [20:09] <paul_irish> oh i updated it 10 days ago! phew. i forgot already :)
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  555. # [20:19] <thatryan> whats the chrome standards page
  556. # [20:21] * MikeSmith looks for url
  557. # [20:22] <paul_irish> www.chromestatus.com
  558. # [20:22] <MikeSmith> that one!
  559. # [20:24] <thatryan> ooohhh sweeeeet
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  574. # [20:50] <niftylettuce> what u guys think of HTC Sensation
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  578. # [20:52] <paul_irish> sensational
  579. # [20:52] <nimbu> ?g htc sensation
  580. # [20:52] <bot-t1> nimbu, HTC - Products - HTC Sensation Overview - http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/overview.html
  581. # [20:54] <paul_irish> is it LTE?
  582. # [20:54] <paul_irish> i'd get me some LTE shit
  583. # [20:54] <ryanneufeld> anyone have the nexus S?
  584. # [20:54] <nimbu> yes i do ryanneufeld
  585. # [20:55] <niftylettuce> g2x looks pretty good
  586. # [20:55] <niftylettuce> ?g lte
  587. # [20:55] <bot-t1> niftylettuce, 3GPP Long Term Evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution
  588. # [20:55] <niftylettuce> ?g g2x lte
  589. # [20:55] <bot-t1> niftylettuce, T-Mobile unveils G2x smartphone, 4G Mobile Hotspot, more; doubles ... - http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-unveils-g2x-smartphone-4g-mobile-hotspot-more/
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  591. # [20:56] <niftylettuce> I'm thinking bout getting G2X on tmobilezz
  592. # [20:57] * fragstone sayed hallo
  593. # [20:58] <paul_irish> hallo
  594. # [20:58] * niftylettuce is wondering if nimbu is still #friendly :P
  595. # [20:58] <tw2113> i still have till like january before a free upgrade from my ancient motorola droid
  596. # [20:59] <ryanneufeld> nimbu: how do you like it?
  597. # [20:59] <niftylettuce> i appears g2x has android 2.3
  598. # [20:59] <nimbu> hey niftylettuce
  599. # [20:59] <niftylettuce> nimbu: \o
  600. # [20:59] <nimbu> ryanneufeld: i dont use it much so i am good with it :)
  601. # [21:00] <nimbu> i really dont use phones at all except for calling >_> and testing.
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  603. # [21:00] <nimbu> which means I dont usually have to charge it more than once in 3 or 4 days :)
  604. # [21:00] <ryanneufeld> yeah, I have a G2 running cyanogenmod right now
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  611. # [21:11] <niftylettuce> ryanneufeld: a G2x?
  612. # [21:11] <ryanneufeld> no, a G2
  613. # [21:11] <niftylettuce> ryanneufeld: do you know much of the G2x?
  614. # [21:11] <ryanneufeld> HTC Vision, in canada it's called the Desire Z
  615. # [21:11] <ryanneufeld> niftylettuce: nothing
  616. # [21:12] <ryanneufeld> nimbu: does the front camera work with skype?
  617. # [21:12] <nimbu> ryanneufeld: i have no idea!
  618. # [21:12] <nimbu> sorry i am a n00b with mobile devices
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  623. # [21:26] <vladikoff> niftylettuce, boaz got a g2x
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  625. # [21:29] <niftylettuce> it has android 2.2 tho
  626. # [21:30] <vladikoff> niftylettuce, cm7 it up
  627. # [21:30] <niftylettuce> htc sensation seems a little more sensational
  628. # [21:31] <niftylettuce> the only other real difference besides minor hardware is the screen resolution
  629. # [21:31] <niftylettuce> sensation has 960x540 :/
  630. # [21:32] <vladikoff> niftylettuce, also carrier diff , no?
  631. # [21:33] <niftylettuce> no g2x/sensation are tmobile
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  638. # [21:33] <niftylettuce> sensation and evo3d are identical except wimax
  639. # [21:33] <niftylettuce> (and 3d ofc)
  640. # [21:33] <vladikoff> niftylettuce, engadget review says Sensation has a locked bootloader
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  643. # [21:35] <niftylettuce> vladikoff: that would prevent cyanogenmod correct?
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  645. # [21:35] <vladikoff> niftylettuce, ye
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  648. # [21:37] <niftylettuce> vladikoff: where can I find out of device will be upgradable
  649. # [21:37] <niftylettuce> vladikoff: (natively)
  650. # [21:37] <niftylettuce> if device*, dang can't spell
  651. # [21:37] <vladikoff> niftylettuce, you mean official updates?
  652. # [21:38] <niftylettuce> vladikoff: yea
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  655. # [21:39] <vladikoff> niftylettuce, updates are hard >_>
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  663. # [21:44] <niftylettuce> vladikoff: http://phandroid.com/2011/06/08/htc-readying-update-to-unlock-htc-sensation-bootloader/
  664. # [21:45] <vladikoff> niftylettuce, nice
  665. # [21:45] <niftylettuce> vladikoff: gonna sign up today :)
  666. # [21:45] <niftylettuce> vladikoff: ty for input
  667. # [21:45] <vladikoff> niftylettuce, good luck!
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  670. # [21:47] <niftylettuce> vladikoff: \o
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  693. # [22:12] <digitalfiz> paul_irish what was that link to why w3schools is bad?
  694. # [22:12] <paul_irish> w3fools
  695. # [22:12] <digitalfiz> tyty
  696. # [22:12] <vladikoff> digitalfiz, http://w3fools.com/
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