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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jun 27 00:00:00 2011
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  9. # [00:15] <niftylettuce> cheilmann: it'd be neat to make a ported version of that gedit integration for chrome
  10. # [00:15] <cheilmann> yeah
  11. # [00:16] <cheilmann> I am actually still looking for an editor I really like on Linux
  12. # [00:16] <tw2113> textmate!
  13. # [00:16] <tw2113> oh wait
  14. # [00:16] <niftylettuce> cheilmann: gedit, i should show you my setup
  15. # [00:16] <cheilmann> maybe it is really time to stop messing around and get used to VIM
  16. # [00:16] * tw2113 throws his support behind gedit too
  17. # [00:16] <tw2113> a few plugins, settings changes, and you have a pretty decent editor
  18. # [00:16] <niftylettuce> cheilmann: only prob i have right now is gedit is getting the jslint LOC err linking working
  19. # [00:17] <tw2113> i even have a minify plugin working with gedit
  20. # [00:17] <niftylettuce> cheilmann: use gmate btw, plugin for gedit
  21. # [00:17] <tw2113> ?g gmate github
  22. # [00:17] <bot-t1> tw2113, gmate's Profile - GitHub - https://github.com/gmate
  23. # [00:18] <tw2113> not sure it's set up yet for gnome3 though
  24. # [00:18] <niftylettuce> I'm going to set up a tutorial soon on how to make gEdit the best it can be
  25. # [00:18] <niftylettuce> then every1 will want gedit
  26. # [00:18] <niftylettuce> or something like that
  27. # [00:20] <tw2113> html emails are such a pain
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  29. # [00:21] <niftylettuce> https://github.com/niftylettuce/niftymate (start watching)
  30. # [00:21] <niftylettuce> tw2113 cheilmann ^
  31. # [00:22] <cheilmann> cool
  32. # [00:23] * tw2113 loads it into Fx and then goes to start some laundry
  33. # [00:23] <cheilmann> watches
  34. # [00:23] <cheilmann> nothing yet
  35. # [00:23] <tw2113> does it do any tricks?
  36. # [00:23] <cheilmann> It's like the stationary cupboard - it just doesn't move
  37. # [00:23] <tw2113> or spin round like a record right round round?
  38. # [00:24] * tw2113 golf claps at the tricks the repo is doing so far
  39. # [00:24] <tw2113> sit! good repo!
  40. # [00:24] <tw2113> ok, i'm done
  41. # [00:25] <niftylettuce> going to have bundles of goodness, all u'll have to do is do a git clone and then run a shell script to auto install everything and update clones :)
  42. # [00:26] <niftylettuce> cheilmann tw2113 for lol's @ http://github.com/niftylettuce/nyancat.js
  43. # [00:26] <tw2113> damn, all the washers are taken
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  46. # [00:26] <surf> hi guys. Is it possible that in local my <video> tag is working (I can play the video in ff4) and when I upload it in my hosting space the player shows an X?
  47. # [00:26] <tw2113> are you linking to it properly surf ?
  48. # [00:26] <cheilmann> could be that your host doesn't send the right header?
  49. # [00:27] <cheilmann> is the URL correct?
  50. # [00:27] <tw2113> did you feed your server bacon?
  51. # [00:27] <surf> mmm yes the url is correct but I'm realizing that if I browse it I see the "code" of the file
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  53. # [00:28] <tw2113> niftylettuce are you going to make that repo gedit 3 compatible? or just 2.x?
  54. # [00:29] <surf> any idea why? I mean, if I browse the url, it doesn't "play"
  55. # [00:30] <cheilmann> giving us the URL would make that REALLY easy :)
  56. # [00:30] <tw2113> i wonder if something got corrupted on upload
  57. # [00:31] <cheilmann> so it sounds like your server doesn't send the right header
  58. # [00:31] <surf> ammmmm ok I'm seeing the forum of the upload service... is something "planned" not to let user do it :S
  59. # [00:33] <niftylettuce> tw2113: been debating on that
  60. # [00:33] <tw2113> cheilmann what's that video service you love so much? maybe surf could use it
  61. # [00:34] <niftylettuce> tw2113: maybe ill make it compatible for both, and you get prompted via shell script which version you are using, 2||3
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  63. # [00:35] <cheilmann> vid.ly
  64. # [00:35] <tw2113> that's it
  65. # [00:37] <surf> thx
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  68. # [00:47] <niftylettuce> tw2113: you use gnome3?
  69. # [00:47] <niftylettuce> tw2113: http://www.junauza.com/2011/04/how-to-enable-unity-quicklists-in.html
  70. # [00:49] <tw2113> i have gnome3 on my laptop here, and 2.6 on the desktop still
  71. # [00:49] <niftylettuce> anyone here try this yet? https://github.com/mockko/livereload
  72. # [00:49] <niftylettuce> livereload instead of having to ctrl+r ?
  73. # [00:51] <luchenbill> when you use an <input type="submit" /> in ie i'm getting a blue border around the submit button... is there a way to get rid of it?
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  76. # [01:03] <dissipate> anyone here do html5 drag and drop for files?
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  79. # [01:11] <cheilmann> I was planning on doing a demo soon
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  81. # [01:12] <cheilmann> http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/01/how-to-develop-a-html5-image-uploader/
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  86. # [01:24] <Thasmo> Is http://www.modernizr.com/downloads/modernizr-latest.js the complete JS, containing really _ALL_ code which can be added via the build-tool?
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  89. # [01:27] <grantg> heh
  90. # [01:28] <grantg> cheilmann: I put back zelda. :P
  91. # [01:28] <grantg> http://grantgalitz.org/get_the_hell_out/LegendOfZelda_Links_Awakening/
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  98. # [01:47] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: if I was making a smoothie website, I would put papayaWhip ALL over it :)
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  107. # [01:56] <cjaredrun> if i declare <!DOCTYPE HTML> that is counted as my opening <html> tag so all i need is </html>, correct? or do i still need to open <html>
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  112. # [02:02] <tw2113> still need <html> cjaredrun
  113. # [02:02] <cjaredrun> ok thanks tw2113. i just didn
  114. # [02:02] <cjaredrun> t see it when i viewed src at www.w3.org/html/logo/
  115. # [02:04] <cjaredrun> ohh nm. i ignored all the <!--[if lt IE 7 ]> <html lang="en" class="ie6 ielt8"> <![endif]--> on top
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  117. # [02:04] <tw2113> *shrug*
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  142. # [02:59] <tbranyen> Does chrome support the Blob type attribute?
  143. # [03:00] <tbranyen> dataTransfer.files[0].type == "" for me
  144. # [03:00] <tbranyen> actually i should revisit the spec, i'm getting "" for folders, dropping an image gets the right type
  145. # [03:01] <tbranyen> a better question is, can i determine if a dropped file is a folder or not?
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  148. # [03:19] <ryanseddon> tbranyen: no, if it doesn't know what the file is the type will be empty
  149. # [03:20] <tbranyen> ryanseddon: yeah, my issue is that i can't work with folders with html5 dnd
  150. # [03:20] <tbranyen> isn't this kind of a huge oversight for most situations when people would want to drop something
  151. # [03:20] <tbranyen> input type=file with multiple is great for selecting multiple files, but drag and drop seems relatively suited for folders
  152. # [03:20] <ryanseddon> yeah, there is also a bug with dropping a folder on an input file with webkitdirectory
  153. # [03:22] <ryanseddon> This one http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=58977
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  168. # [03:40] <nimbu> retlehs: yo, any reason why analytics and jquery are in the header.php for roots theme?
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  170. # [03:41] <tbranyen> ryanseddon: fyi, http://sharefilewith.me/u/725449.png
  171. # [03:41] <tbranyen> ryanseddon: thanks for the lead
  172. # [03:42] <ryanseddon> tbranyen: is that from a drop? Did they fix it?
  173. # [03:42] <tbranyen> gotta build a map of the folder structure now
  174. # [03:42] <tbranyen> ryanseddon: nah it was from selecting manually
  175. # [03:42] <tbranyen> ryanseddon: woah drop works
  176. # [03:42] <tbranyen> in chrome 12 on linux
  177. # [03:42] <tbranyen> chromium 12*
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  180. # [03:43] <ryanseddon> Does this work too http://thecssninja.com/demo/webkitdirectory/
  181. # [03:44] <tbranyen> yea
  182. # [03:44] <ryanseddon> o_0 it's working for me too, they must have fixed it
  183. # [03:45] <ryanseddon> nice
  184. # [03:45] <tbranyen> :D
  185. # [03:45] <ryanseddon> says it was moved from v12 to 14 in the bug, but there is a patch submitted in there
  186. # [03:47] <ryanseddon> heh, this is like the first bug they've fixed that I've reported :D
  187. # [03:48] <ryanseddon> tbranyen: what are you building?
  188. # [03:48] <tbranyen> ryanseddon: well its a long story, but i was working on node.js libgit2 bindings for my new site: http://dev.tabdeveloper.com/ BUT I'm god awful at C++, threading, segfaults, etc etc
  189. # [03:48] <tbranyen> so its really unstable
  190. # [03:49] <tbranyen> was talking to a guy in #node.js who had worked on this project tempisfugit but is too busy to finish it
  191. # [03:49] <tbranyen> so i'm working on making a node/client side implementation of git
  192. # [03:49] <ryanseddon> yeah I'd love to jump back into C++ dev, I didn't really move beyond hello world as a teenager
  193. # [03:50] <ryanseddon> tbranyen: nice, sounds like a cool project
  194. # [03:50] <ryanseddon> DnD files and folders, designers will love you
  195. # [03:50] <tbranyen> since there are a handful of ways of doing i/o clientside i wanted to see what the most modern method would be
  196. # [03:51] <tbranyen> basically what i'm doing now is including the built library, and then including a compatibility layer
  197. # [03:51] <tbranyen> which i hope others will copy the style and create their own
  198. # [03:51] <tbranyen> make adapters to github via ajax and such
  199. # [03:52] <tbranyen> i think that'd be pretty neat
  200. # [03:52] <ryanseddon> hell yeah
  201. # [03:52] <tbranyen> one thing i really really want to do as well, is create a git repo inside localStorage
  202. # [03:52] <tbranyen> but thats a long ways away
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  204. # [03:54] <ryanseddon> why not do indexedDB seems like more powerful git like stuff
  205. # [03:55] <tbranyen> that'd be cool too, i just know how to use localStorage, but not indexDB
  206. # [03:55] <ryanseddon> could be a good reason to learn it
  207. # [03:55] <tbranyen> yeah def
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  251. # [05:24] <tw2113> true
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  265. # [05:54] <tbranyen> ryanseddon: still around?
  266. # [05:54] <tbranyen> ryanseddon: http://dev.aboutnerd.com/tempus/test.html << check it out when you get a chance
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  281. # [06:26] <ggalitz> yup
  282. # [06:26] <ggalitz> server just overloaded
  283. # [06:26] <ggalitz> too many visitors. O_O
  284. # [06:28] <tw2113> haha
  285. # [06:29] <dr0id> website ?
  286. # [06:29] <ggalitz> mine
  287. # [06:29] <dr0id> link ?
  288. # [06:29] <ggalitz> http://grantgalitz.org/get_the_hell_out/LegendOfZelda_Links_Awakening/
  289. # [06:29] <tw2113> more gameboy emulator traffic i assue
  290. # [06:30] <tw2113> assume
  291. # [06:30] <ggalitz> I got the first service unavailable message
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  293. # [06:30] <ggalitz> It's back up
  294. # [06:30] <ggalitz> I guess it reaching full load
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  298. # [06:30] <dr0id> so, what would you do next ?
  299. # [06:31] <ggalitz> nothing much
  300. # [06:31] <ggalitz> It
  301. # [06:31] <ggalitz> It's normal now
  302. # [06:31] <tw2113> you should play legend of zelda once it loads, dr0id
  303. # [06:31] <ggalitz> Must have been a lot of hits at the exact same time
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  308. # [06:37] <dr0id> lol, what is this ?
  309. # [06:37] <dr0id> raining and thunder
  310. # [06:38] <tw2113> dr0id you have never played a gameboy have you
  311. # [06:38] <ggalitz> It's Legend of Zelda, Link's Awakening the game
  312. # [06:38] <dr0id> yes
  313. # [06:38] <ggalitz> the actual game
  314. # [06:38] <dr0id> it reminds me of the old days
  315. # [06:38] <tw2113> you can play it in your browser now
  316. # [06:39] <dr0id> hehehehehehehe
  317. # [06:39] <dr0id> but I have never playes this game :D
  318. # [06:39] <dr0id> lets start a website
  319. # [06:39] <dr0id> with these games
  320. # [06:39] <dr0id> will become very popular
  321. # [06:39] <ggalitz> :/
  322. # [06:39] <tw2113> i think that's technically illegal
  323. # [06:39] <dr0id> or innovative html5 games
  324. # [06:40] <dr0id> played*
  325. # [06:40] <dr0id> super mario and contra were the best IMHO
  326. # [06:40] <ggalitz> dr0id: http://www.grantgalitz.org/get_the_hell_out/SuperMarioLand2/
  327. # [06:40] <ggalitz> http://www.grantgalitz.org/get_the_hell_out/SuperMarioBros/
  328. # [06:40] <ggalitz> have fun. :)
  329. # [06:43] <tw2113> i should probably go slice up another psd
  330. # [06:45] <dr0id> Heh
  331. # [06:45] <dr0id> these ones suck
  332. # [06:46] <dr0id> ggalitz: did you make the games or fetching it from somewhere ?
  333. # [06:46] <tw2113> he just made the emulator that plays them
  334. # [06:47] <tw2113> those are official games from Nintendo
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  357. # [07:42] <iraebrasil> paul_irish: I hope I haven't offended anyone on h5bp #577
  358. # [07:43] <paul_irish> haha nope!
  359. # [07:43] <iraebrasil> paul_irish: I am aways afraid of big comments on controversial issues...
  360. # [07:43] <paul_irish> i really appreciate you explaining that
  361. # [07:43] <paul_irish> well... logic and research should always triumph
  362. # [07:43] <paul_irish> sooooooooooo you're in the clear :)
  363. # [07:43] <iraebrasil> =)
  364. # [07:45] <iraebrasil> I hate apples documentations at this times... they implement a damn proprietary new thing and don't even bother to document it
  365. # [07:45] <iraebrasil> I looked at the source code for their "iPhone User Guide" and they are still using javascript for the scroll.
  366. # [07:46] <iraebrasil> Shame we can't link for official docs in this cases...
  367. # [07:46] <ryanseddon> tbranyen: nice, so you're trying to create a client side git that'll let me manage a repo using your js library?
  368. # [07:47] <ryanseddon> iraebrasil: they won't update the docs probably until 3 months after iOS5 has been released
  369. # [07:47] <iraebrasil> paul_irish, I'm glad you liked my comments ;) – project is yours anyway
  370. # [07:47] <paul_irish> psh
  371. # [07:48] <paul_irish> it's the community's
  372. # [07:48] <paul_irish> i just started it
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  374. # [07:49] <iraebrasil> ryanseddon: and this is fine for most things. but new apis, new css properties and such should get some love on the releasenotes... it's a developer beta after all, we can barley help them test the software...
  375. # [07:50] <ryanseddon> we're talking about the same Apple right, not some magical friendly thing
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  377. # [07:51] <iraebrasil> paul_irish: you did a great job starting it... it's changed a lot how many people develop their sites
  378. # [07:52] <paul_irish> for the better, i hope. :)
  379. # [07:52] <iraebrasil> paul_irish: besides, hotpink selection makes the web a better place!
  380. # [07:52] <paul_irish> ++
  381. # [07:52] <iraebrasil> for the better! of course! much better!
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  384. # [07:54] <iraebrasil> ryanseddon: well, I know... but I still have a little hope... they documented a lot about cocoa stuff
  385. # [07:54] <tonyjcamp> @iraebrasil *hawtpink ;)
  386. # [07:55] <niftylettuce> iraebrasil: \o
  387. # [07:56] <niftylettuce> iraebrasil: i finished it btw... http://github.com/niftylettuce/nyancat.js
  388. # [07:56] <iraebrasil> niftylettuce: i was getting some error... i'll pull and test again
  389. # [07:57] <tonyjcamp> @niftylettuce hah meow
  390. # [07:58] <niftylettuce> someone had to do it
  391. # [07:59] <tonyjcamp> for reals
  392. # [08:01] <niftylettuce> if my startup doesn\'t take off then I need a job... gotta be able to show them something >.<
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  399. # [08:13] <iraebrasil> niftylettuce: I was with a problem with my node install... now it worked! soooo coool
  400. # [08:15] <niftylettuce> iraebrasil: lol ty :), just pushed another commit that makes the audio loop, so you get the full nyancat experience o_O?
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  402. # [08:15] <iraebrasil> it's looping for me
  403. # [08:16] <niftylettuce> iraebrasil: after 3 min 30 seconds it will end
  404. # [08:16] <niftylettuce> iraebrasil: latest commit fixes it
  405. # [08:16] <iraebrasil> ah, ok... that shuold be in about 1 min... ;)
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  407. # [08:17] <iraebrasil> niftylettuce: I won't stop it unless it stops itself... :)
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  410. # [08:21] <iraebrasil> niftylettuce: now I wish I had geektools installed to set nyancat.js in my desktop lol
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  424. # [08:44] <niftylettuce> \o peace out
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  439. # [09:12] <niftylettuce> what is google's policy again company's doing black hat SEO by injecting fake results into Google News using their site page title and then description for the article's content?
  440. # [09:12] <niftylettuce> against**
  441. # [09:12] <niftylettuce> I found a site doing it
  442. # [09:12] <niftylettuce> its one of my client's competitors
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  444. # [09:12] <chriseppstein> niftylettuce: they have a snitch page somewhere
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  446. # [09:14] <niftylettuce> chriseppstein: nice, is it this one? https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/spamreport?hl=en&pli=1
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  448. # [09:14] <chriseppstein> niftylettuce: looks like
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