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  141. # [15:13] * Topic is 'Welcome, amigos :: Ask any question about html5 & Friends. || Author Spec: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/ || Full spec: http://whatwg.org/html5 || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.org http://mzl.la/9giLwR http://html5homi.es'
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  151. # [15:30] <logik-bomb> how can I clone a canvas object?
  152. # [15:30] <logik-bomb> thanks
  153. # [15:31] <dr0id> git clone canvas
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  155. # [15:31] <logik-bomb> :)
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  177. # [17:53] <Ali> Why does FF 3.6 render top borders differently with rounded corners, known issue? work around out there? something i'm doing wrong?
  178. # [17:53] <Ali> Webkit (wanted) = http://i.imgur.com/oKCXv.png
  179. # [17:53] <Ali> FF 3.6 = http://i.imgur.com/zmU3b.png
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  181. # [17:54] <Ali> looks okay in FF5, I don't have FF4 on here but I'm going to download in a second
  182. # [17:54] * diamonds shrugs
  183. # [17:54] <diamonds> ff 3.6 is old
  184. # [17:54] <diamonds> they don't even support 4 anymore, I think
  185. # [17:54] <Ms2ger> Nope
  186. # [17:55] <Ali> but it's a primary browser supported in our companies matrix so...
  187. # [17:55] <Ms2ger> We do still support 3.6, though
  188. # [17:57] <Ali> Ms2ger, support me the :/
  189. # [17:57] <nimbu> Ms2ger: how long will 3.6 be supported?
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  191. # [17:57] <Ms2ger> I have no idea
  192. # [17:58] <Ali> Ms2ger, does FF5 auto update to 6 when it is released like Chrome does with updates?
  193. # [17:58] <Ms2ger> It should, I think
  194. # [17:58] <Ali> Nice.
  195. # [17:58] <Ms2ger> Unless you have incompatible addons
  196. # [17:59] <Ali> any idea on a way to achieve the desired effect in FF3 Ms2ger ?
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  199. # [18:00] <Ms2ger> No
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  202. # [18:04] <diamonds> Ali: it's really quite a small difference. I counsel users in this case to use an up-to-date browser if they want to see those extra half-dozen pixels of white border :)
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  247. # [18:39] <Jon47> if I put all the main content of my page in a section element, like <section id="main"> or something like that, and my <h1> tag is in there too, do you suppose this will affect the way a search engine views my site (as in, will the <h1> have less oomph because it theoretically only applies to that section, not the entire document)?
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  250. # [18:43] <Ms2ger> Just don't do that
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  253. # [18:46] <Jon47> yeah I know I can, I'm just wondering if anybody knows what would happen..
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  285. # [21:15] <kollapse> Can I ask why do Opera, Firefox and Chrome all handle font-size for @font-face differently ? For example 17px size looks different in one compared to the other.
  286. # [21:15] <nimbu> kollapse: you have an example?
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  290. # [21:18] <kollapse> nimbu: Hmm, well I don't have a test case.
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  299. # [21:41] <kollapse> nimbu: For example http://craigmod.com/journal/font-face/
  300. # [21:41] <kollapse> Looks differently in browsers (ex: Opera vs Firefox)
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  316. # [23:48] <BrianBlakely> Vendors are so afraid of infinite loops that they've cordoned it and then introduced an API *specifically for infinite loops*
  317. # [23:48] <grantg> is this a w3c thing?
  318. # [23:49] <BrianBlakely> Yeah
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  325. # [23:49] <grantg> What about web workers?!?
  326. # [23:50] <BrianBlakely> Chrome Team wrote the test for it, but Canary doesn't support it >_>
  327. # [23:50] <tbranyen> BrianBlakely: no go sorry man
  328. # [23:50] <tbranyen> might have been deleted
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  334. # [23:51] <BrianBlakely> tbranyen: Sad thing :/ Thanks again!
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  336. # [23:51] <grantg> yo dawg, stick yo long running stuff in a worker. :P
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  339. # [23:52] <BrianBlakely> grantg: So you can computer while you compute?
  340. # [23:52] <BrianBlakely> compute*
  341. # [23:52] <BrianBlakely> Damn
  342. # [23:52] <grantg> yesh
  343. # [23:52] <grantg> been working on a side project for js gba
  344. # [23:52] <grantg> DYNAREC awww yeeeaaaah
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  346. # [23:52] <grantg> lazy patching async jit
  347. # [23:53] <grantg> that takes a request from the interpreter for which code block to optimize
  348. # [23:53] <grantg> then it returns back the optimized js spew whenever
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  350. # [23:53] <grantg> the interpreter checks to see if that spew has returned back yet
  351. # [23:53] <grantg> and hasn't been blacklisted
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  353. # [23:54] <grantg> otherwise if it hasn't been returned back yet, it goes interpreter
  354. # [23:54] <moo-_-> BrianBlakely: the news letter comes to email now and then
  355. # [23:54] <BrianBlakely> moo-_-: Yeah, I checked my Bulk and found the one you spoke of before, thanks man
  356. # [23:54] <grantg> also if the clocking left before an IRQ cuts it close, then it'll stay in interpreter so as to not have to recompute the inlining.
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  358. # [23:55] <grantg> BrianBlakely: The chrome team first needs to fix its setInterval
  359. # [23:56] <grantg> It gets the ms set wrong
  360. # [23:56] <grantg> if you do 16 ms, it thinks it's 17
  361. # [23:56] <grantg> 17... 18
  362. # [23:56] <grantg> etc.
  363. # [23:56] <grantg> many other browsers do this too
  364. # [23:56] <BrianBlakely> grantg: DRC in JavaScript, OK, I dig it. I believe that was part of what made ZSNES so fast back in the early '00s
  365. # [23:56] <grantg> I don't see this setInterval in Firefox for mac
  366. # [23:57] <BrianBlakely> grantg: That's a very odd bug, I never noticed, probably because I normally work in spaces above 250ms
  367. # [23:57] <grantg> *setInterval bug
  368. # [23:57] <grantg> yeah
  369. # [23:57] <grantg> it
  370. # [23:57] <grantg> it's definitely there
  371. # [23:57] <grantg> I've tested it
  372. # [23:57] <grantg> with averaging
  373. # [23:57] <grantg> it's *exactly* 1 ms too late in chrome
  374. # [23:57] <nimbu> grantg: got the test online smwhere?
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  376. # [23:58] <grantg> local machine
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  378. # [23:58] <grantg> the test is really easy to construct
  379. # [23:58] <grantg> takes a few secs
  380. # [23:58] <nimbu> yes so you can put it online then :P
  381. # [23:58] <grantg> time diff / number of intervals executed
  382. # [23:59] <grantg> and just update a counter
  383. # [23:59] <grantg> alright
  384. # [23:59] <grantg> I'll put this online
  385. # [23:59] <nimbu> thnxx!
  386. # [23:59] <nimbu> :)
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