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- # Session Start: Tue Jul 19 18:47:56 2011
- # Session Ident: #html5
- # 03[18:47] * Now talking in #html5
- # 03[18:47] * Topic is 'Welcome, amigos :: Ask any question about html5 & Friends. || Author Spec: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/ || Full spec: http://whatwg.org/html5 || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.org http://mzl.la/9giLwR http://html5homi.es'
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- # [18:57] <BrianBlakely> $800 to web-license 2 fonts
- # [18:57] <BrianBlakely> Even without the variations included
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- # [18:57] <BrianBlakely> Just the BOLD weight
- # [18:57] <BrianBlakely> $800
- # [18:57] <BrianBlakely> shake my head
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- # [19:00] <xonecas> o/
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- # [19:06] <Sembiance> BrianBlakely: the font creators are used to living in the world of print media dominated by big companies that don't bat an eye spending $800 or more for a single font style.
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- # [19:07] <Sembiance> BrianBlakely: There are lots of font services out there that will help you find a very similar font to the one you were looking at for $800
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- # [19:07] <Sembiance> BrianBlakely: find ones that are free that is :)
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- # [19:09] <BrianBlakely> Sembiance: I'll keep the font-matching services in mind, thanks. BTW, the price isn't a problem, but it feels like a rip-off… it's a yearly fee, it's definitely a rip-off
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- # [19:31] <Sembiance> BrianBlakely: a yearly $800 fee to use a single style of a single font? WTF! Frakkin-a!
- # [19:32] <BrianBlakely> A single style from 2 fonts, but all the same...
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- # [19:39] <tw2113> sup miketaylr
- # [19:39] <miketaylr> hey there tw2113
- # [19:40] <tw2113> how's life?
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- # [19:48] <x29a> hm, anybody experienced with offline cache (not storage) on android native browsers? it seems to redirect to "page not found" as soon as the internet connection is gone
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- # [20:40] <BrianBlakely> Zip code: input type number?
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- # [20:41] <ravenzz> hello
- # [20:42] <ravenzz> i need an offline html5 handbook
- # [20:42] <ravenzz> recommendations?
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- # [20:44] <BrianBlakely> ravenzz: I haven't read it, but it's from HTML5 doctors: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=html5+book&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2212691090203145857&sa=X&ei=Tc8lTv2yFIfn0QGnkIHdCg&ved=0CFMQ8wIwAg
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- # [20:49] <ravenzz> thank you, is there a PDF version too?
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- # [20:49] <ravenzz> because i am not from us
- # [20:50] <irae_> ravenzz: this book is available from iBook (iPad, iPhone) and in Amazon Kindle
- # [20:50] <tw2113> good book
- # [20:50] <ravenzz> i don't have a such device
- # [20:50] <tw2113> but very general and intro
- # [20:50] <tw2113> it doesn't go very very indepth
- # [20:50] <ravenzz> Book level: intermediate/advance ?
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- # [20:51] <ravenzz> i mean. i read the opera web standard curriculum, and i waste my time :P
- # [20:51] <tw2113> http://diveintohtml5.org/offline.html
- # [20:52] <ravenzz> i don't want to read another 250 useless pages
- # [20:54] <ravenzz> so this http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596806033
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- # [20:56] <tw2113> ravenzz that's the print version of the link i gave you
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- # [21:00] <ravenzz> oh
- # [21:00] <ravenzz> with offline i mean, a book i can read offline :P
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- # [21:01] <ravenzz> without an internet connection
- # [21:02] <tw2113> ah, i thought you meant offline as in cache manifest and whatnot
- # [21:02] <ravenzz> yep i see ;)
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- # [21:02] <tw2113> i say go for either one of those then, if possible at all
- # [21:03] <BrianBlakely> Anyone see a good bevel border effect without the use of border-image?
- # [21:03] <BrianBlakely> Possibly something leveraging box-shadow
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- # [21:05] <ravenzz> you need a shadow or a rounded border?
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- # [21:13] <johnkpaul> Does anyone know of a good article to use to convince business people that a website doesn't need to look exactly the same in every browser?
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- # [21:39] <paul_irish> johnkpau_: here let me share what i got
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- # [21:40] <johnkpaul> great, thanks
- # [21:40] <paul_irish> johnkpaul: http://paulirish.com/?p=1079&preview=true&preview_id=1079&public=1&nonce=c7229dffab
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- # [21:45] <skylamer`> Do you dare to add me, paul_irish? :D)
- # [21:45] <paul_irish> add you?
- # [21:46] <gnarf> paul_irish: can't side scroll that quote block
- # [21:46] <paul_irish> that is true
- # [21:46] <paul_irish> http://paulirish.com/?p=1079&preview=true&preview_id=1079&public=1&nonce=c7229dffab okay you can now
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- # [21:48] <gnarf> nice
- # [21:48] <gnarf> I'm also in agreement
- # [21:48] <gnarf> fuck "look the same" i want "works everywhere"
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- # [21:49] <johnkpaul> paul_irish: :) those are some great resources, now I just have to translate into something for a business parton
- # [21:49] <johnkpaul> person*
- # [21:51] <skylamer`> yeah, u can do some Manifest with some postulat!
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- # [21:54] <johnkpaul> paul_irish: does this mean that you have many of these phantom posts like this out there?
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- # [22:08] <skylamer`> hes waiting the moment! :)
- # [22:09] <nimbu> johnkpaul: this might help http://www.bookofspeed.com/chapter1.html
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- # [22:13] <johnkpaul> thanks nimbu
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- # [22:16] <gnarf> paul_irish: togglable psuedo classes?
- # [22:16] <gnarf> does that mean we can turn on/off :hover?
- # [22:17] <uf0> what should I use to send html newsletter tests to email
- # [22:17] <uf0> ?
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- # [22:18] <paul_irish> gnarf: yah look at the screenshot on peter's post
- # 06[22:20] * gnarf hugs whoever wrote that
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- # [22:28] <gnarf> hey paul_irish
- # [22:28] <gnarf> chromium extensions
- # [22:28] <paul_irish> mm
- # [22:28] <gnarf> do you know of a good one for helping to SEO optimize?
- # [22:28] <gnarf> like this random SEO plugin my co-worker uses in FF is the one thing he has over chrome atm
- # [22:28] <gnarf> and i know there has to be an extension
- # [22:28] <paul_irish> i rly liked some ff one myself, too
- # [22:28] <gnarf> same here
- # [22:29] <gnarf> its solid
- # [22:29] <paul_irish> what was it called
- # 06[22:29] * paul_irish looks up mine
- # [22:29] <paul_irish> SenSEO
- # [22:29] <gnarf> yup
- # [22:30] <gnarf> can we lazyweb that? :)
- # [22:30] <gnarf> SenSEO -> chrome extension
- # [22:30] <paul_irish> okey
- # [22:30] <paul_irish> would also make sense as a devtools audit extension
- # [22:30] <gnarf> yeah
- # [22:30] <gnarf> whatever that means
- # [22:30] <gnarf> it sounds sezy
- # [22:30] <paul_irish> very sezy
- # [22:30] <gnarf> :)
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- # [22:32] <gnarf> should i make the issue on https://github.com/paulirish/lazyweb-requests/issues/new ? :)
- # [22:33] <paul_irish> sure
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- # [22:34] <skylamer`> GOOD NIGHT TO ALL Feellaz :)
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- # [22:35] <gnarf> https://github.com/paulirish/lazyweb-requests/issues/41
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- # [22:49] <BrianBlakely> Alright, I got a nice bevel effect using inset box-shadows
- # [22:49] <BrianBlakely> And RGBa
- # [22:49] <BrianBlakely> Turned out surprisingly well :D
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- # [22:51] <gnarf> paul_irish: RT? https://twitter.com/#!/gnarf37/status/93418046902906880
- # [22:51] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/qle2zL @gnarf37: Lazy Web Request: An awesome SEO extension for Chrome? http://t.co/kGsgDXd
- # [22:51] <gnarf> hrm
- # [22:51] <gnarf> whos bot is socialhapy
- # [22:51] <paul_irish> peol's
- # [22:51] <paul_irish> BrianBlakely: pics plz
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- # [23:04] <jetienne> paul_irish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOLQtHl2Coc&feature=player_detailpage#t=100s i wish i could :)
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- # [23:09] <gnarf> lolz: https://twitter.com/#!/jonathansampson/status/93424857034919936
- # [23:09] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/of087X @jonathansampson: Freaky dub step turns people into horrible monsters http://bit.ly/px37OL
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- # [23:14] <paul_irish> naice
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