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  44. # [01:33] <grantg> Please wait while we upgrade you to Internet Explorer 6: ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▒▒▒
  45. # [01:33] <bot-t> (49 hours 10 mins ago) <paul_irish_> tell grantg you should follow https://twitter.com/#!/ilmarihei or something
  46. # [01:33] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/qR8yiN @ilmarihei: http://t.co/FJbiCcz what
  47. # [01:33] <paul_irish> grantg: in general ilmari talks a lot about chrome optimization paths for graphics and shitttt
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  49. # [01:35] <grantg> ah
  50. # [01:36] <grantg> paul_irish: Right now I'm just wondering why chrome is crashing on my stuff in Mac OS X Lion
  51. # [01:36] <grantg> :/
  52. # [01:37] <paul_irish> because lion and chrome is ummm
  53. # [01:37] <paul_irish> a very nascent relationship
  54. # [01:37] <paul_irish> but they're starting to get along well.
  55. # [01:37] <paul_irish> dating on weekdays even
  56. # [01:37] <paul_irish> soon they'll be going steady
  57. # [01:37] <paul_irish> which means sexytimes.
  58. # [01:38] <grantg> ⚤
  59. # [01:38] <paul_irish> #metaphorsthatdontwork
  60. # [01:38] <paul_irish> hahahha nice
  61. # [01:39] <grantg> http://www.grantgalitz.org/get_the_hell_out/GameAndWatch2/ being one URL chrome goes haywire on.
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  63. # [01:45] <paul_irish> "The CSS WG has recently tightened the conditions under which UAs should drop prefixes. See http://www.w3.org/TR/css-2010/#testing for the current policy. "
  64. # [01:45] <paul_irish> thx hober
  65. # [01:47] <grantg> hmm
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  67. # [01:48] <grantg> I should probably push the CSS 3D transform to see if that tricks chrome into not being stupid. :/
  68. # [01:48] <grantg> *CSS 3D transform patch
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  71. # [01:50] <Fyrd> grantg: If you ever come up with a way to trick people into not being stupid, please share.
  72. # [01:51] <grantg> Fyrd: lolwhat?
  73. # [01:51] <tw2113> mind control?
  74. # [01:51] <grantg> chrome takes up a whole core for putImageData still.
  75. # [01:51] <grantg> Even with HW acceleration enabled
  76. # [01:52] <grantg> :(
  77. # [01:52] <Fyrd> grantg: Just thought it'd come real handy if one could do such a thing. When dealing with stupid people.
  78. # [01:52] <grantg> heh
  79. # [01:53] <grantg> I can see that chrome loads my stuff to the GPU, but it seems it still does busy work on the CPU that increases exponentially to how much you scale the canvas still
  80. # [01:53] <jovrtn> taking a look at head.js, curious what others think about it
  81. # [01:53] <grantg> 10% load for actual JS, 90% for canvas.context.putImageData
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  83. # [01:54] <gavacho> jovrtn: i looked at it too and went with require.js
  84. # [01:54] <gavacho> yepnope is another alternative
  85. # [01:54] <jovrtn> is the general nonblocking approach worth going for, regardless of the specific script?
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  87. # [01:58] <gavacho> is speed your primary concern?
  88. # [01:59] <gavacho> or are you looking for something else in a js loader
  89. # [01:59] <snover> jovrtn: there are better loaders for whatever you are doing
  90. # [02:00] <jovrtn> I don't have a specific project in mind
  91. # [02:00] <snover> right tool for the right job
  92. # [02:01] <jovrtn> it seems like the speed advantages of keeping JS scripts from blocking page load would be worth using whenever possible
  93. # [02:01] <snover> you could just put the script tags at the bottom of the body and then they don’t block page load either
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  95. # [02:02] <snover> or give them async flag
  96. # [02:02] <snover> or defer flag
  97. # [02:02] <tw2113> mmm kiwi
  98. # [02:06] <paul_irish> so apparently async applied to script elems that are inserted via script is a useless endeavor
  99. # [02:06] <paul_irish> some would want you to believe.
  100. # [02:07] <paul_irish> hmm i wonder if tonyg is still here
  101. # [02:08] <paul_irish> oh wait defer.
  102. # [02:08] <paul_irish> o_O
  103. # [02:10] <jovrtn> so both async and defer prevent blocking?
  104. # [02:10] <paul_irish> ya
  105. # [02:10] <jovrtn> is that considered 'the' non-blocking solution?
  106. # [02:10] <snover> iirc the only difference between defer and async is that defer loads in order, async loads whenever the fuck it is ready
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  111. # [02:11] <paul_irish> hope that language is in the spec
  112. # [02:12] <jovrtn> so would it make sense to use async to load in parallel and use document.ready / onload to more precisely control when things execute?
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  116. # [02:13] <paul_irish> maybe.
  117. # [02:14] <jovrtn> for uh
  118. # [02:14] <jovrtn> distinguishing actual asset loading time and the user's perception of load speed
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  262. # [07:01] <niftylettuce__> /me changes topic to Happy Birthday FPI
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  267. # [07:01] <niftylettuce__> ?fpi
  268. # [07:01] <bot-t> fucking paul irish! http://i.imgur.com/gpspl.png
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  271. # [07:09] <paul_irish> THX NIFTY
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  275. # [07:15] <dr0id> paul_irish: Happy Bday
  276. # [07:15] <paul_irish> :D:D
  277. # [07:15] <dr0id> :D
  278. # [07:16] <dr0id> !topic its paul_irish's HAPPY BDAY
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  299. # [08:08] <Jack9> Is there any way to detect mouse position in a canvas on reload, without sending mouse events? For example, I have a mouse in the middle of a canvas (45,45) and I reload the page. The mouse is in the same position, but clicking sends an event with coords 0,0
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  312. # [08:25] <niftylettuce__> is there a way for JS to generate a perfect tea/coffee tumbler with no leakage and lots of coffee so we don't alert('need moarrr coffeee')?
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  324. # [09:08] <Jack9> can anyone point me to an example of an HTML5 canvas rectangle drawn with a border that uses an image instead of a color?
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  327. # [09:20] <niftylettuce__> Jack9: do you know specific dimensions of the rectangle?
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  329. # [09:21] <Jack9> niftylettuce__: yes. I drew it. Here's what I found works: context.style = "border-image: url(image.gif) 100%;"; then doing a strokeRect
  330. # [09:22] <Jack9> but i'm not sure that it's the right way to go
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  332. # [09:23] <Jack9> also, i would have expected an animated image to result in an animated border
  333. # [09:23] <Jack9> which is disappointing
  334. # [09:25] <niftylettuce__> Jack9: here is your literal answer http://i.imgur.com/tZ5ZH.png
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  336. # [09:25] <Jack9> niftylettuce__: i was looking for an implementation example. I thought maybe I was doing it wrong, resulting in the border not being animated :(
  337. # [09:26] <Jack9> it is nifty
  338. # [09:28] <niftylettuce__> Jack9: add some JS and animate it?
  339. # [09:29] <Jack9> niftylettuce__: it doesnt even load the image into the border (just gives a black border). animating a border with say... a marquee (select tool moving dashed line), would be a little too intensive for js
  340. # [09:35] <Jack9> context.createPattern(imageObj,'repeat') <-- the pattern can be fed as a strokestyle, so now I have the image loading as a border, but it isn't animated (although the source image is an animated gif)
  341. # [09:36] <niftylettuce__> Jack9: browser?
  342. # [09:36] <Jack9> niftylettuce__: chrome
  343. # [09:37] <Jack9> niftylettuce__: v 12.0.742.122
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  345. # [09:42] <Jack9> ya, canvas doesnt really do anything with animated gifs. grabs the first frame and that's what you get.
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  381. # [10:55] <zake> hi
  382. # [10:55] <zake> i am male
  383. # [10:55] <zake> 18
  384. # [10:55] <zake> syrian
  385. # [10:55] <zake> and you
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  389. # [11:00] <billionaire> 22 am Miami
  390. # [11:00] <billionaire> m*
  391. # [11:00] <billionaire> oops
  392. # [11:00] <billionaire> 22 f Miami
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  465. # [14:50] <Ali-> Gender confusion
  466. # [14:54] <dleonardi> is it safe to assume that if i have <video> <src href="blah.mp4" /> <src href="blah.ogv" /> </video> , the SOURCE will NOT BE LOADED until PLAYED ?
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  468. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> no
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  531. # [18:04] <Jack9> can you specify a css class as a strokeStyle (or apply the class to a strokeRect) somehow?
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  533. # [18:06] <Jack9> strokeStyle can only : either a string containing a CSS color, or a CanvasGradient or CanvasPattern object - so that's no good =/
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  575. # [19:09] <paul_irish> is jack9 aka 9jack9 ?
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  614. # [21:01] <Aric> paul_irish, do you use SASS? I was talking briefly with nimbu about it
  615. # [21:01] <paul_irish> EYS
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  621. # [21:08] <tw2113> paul_irish are you sassy with your SASS? :)
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  623. # [21:12] <paul_irish> ofc
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  626. # [21:23] <tw2113> i learned something new today
  627. # [21:23] <tw2113> with the chrome bar, you can edit the strings needed to use X search engine
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