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  123. # [03:43] <davidmurdoch> Ok, my googlefu is lacking today...where can I find a nice polyfill for <input type=number>
  124. # [03:43] <davidmurdoch> ?
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  126. # [03:46] <davidmurdoch> and why is [Input range polyfill] the first result for [input number polyfill]? Clearly that wasn't what I am searching for, Google. sheesh. :-p
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  129. # [03:51] <davidmurdoch> @paul_irish, I wish Modernizr still had the feature detection list on the home page. Is this still available in the site somewhere?
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  134. # [03:59] <paul_irish> ?g modernizr polyfills @ davidmurdoch
  135. # [03:59] <bot-t> davidmurdoch, HTML5 Cross Browser Polyfills - GitHub - https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr/wiki/HTML5-Cross-Browser-Polyfills
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  137. # [04:00] <davidmurdoch> None for number, I'm afraid.
  138. # [04:00] <paul_irish> look at webshim
  139. # [04:02] <davidmurdoch> ah, I just did a Ctrl + F for "number"...doh.
  140. # [04:02] <davidmurdoch> thanks!
  141. # [04:02] <davidmurdoch> You've been pretty quite on the internets lately... you working on anything awesome?
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  143. # [04:03] <paul_irish> a few things
  144. # [04:03] <paul_irish> but also
  145. # [04:03] <paul_irish> i've just been quiet on the internets :)
  146. # [04:09] <tw2113> nothing wrong with the Irish being a bit quiet for awhile
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  164. # [04:57] <daveluke> anyone use pusher?
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  167. # [05:20] <tw2113> how's tantek doing?
  168. # 06[05:20] * tantek is doing reasonably well.
  169. # [05:21] <tw2113> that's good to hear
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  196. # [06:39] <jacine> tw2113: sup :D
  197. # [06:39] <tw2113> beer and procrastinating work
  198. # [06:40] <jacine> same here.
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  200. # [06:40] <tw2113> we're awesome for it
  201. # [06:41] <jacine> heh.
  202. # [06:43] <tw2113> jacine i got a bit mouthy regarding a reddit post about css3pie http://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/j3gca/do_people_in_here_know_about_css3pie/c28tq3z
  203. # [06:44] <jacine> tw2113: LOL! That's awesome.
  204. # [06:44] <tbranyen> css3pie was a cool experiment
  205. # [06:44] <tbranyen> not worth using in production imo
  206. # [06:44] <tbranyen> right channel this time!
  207. # [06:45] <jacine> yeah, i've never used it in production either.
  208. # [06:45] <tbranyen> although i wrote some ridiculous jquery plugin at one point to get position fixed
  209. # [06:45] <tbranyen> so i can't talk
  210. # [06:45] <jacine> :D
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  212. # [06:46] <tw2113> i think i did some work on a WP theme that came with it, perhaps
  213. # [06:46] <tw2113> too much wortk
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  215. # [06:47] <jacine> yeah, not worth it.
  216. # [06:50] <tw2113> let the IE users cry over the fact that they're not even realizing they're missing somethig
  217. # [06:50] <tw2113> thing*
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  226. # [07:26] <tw2113> still glowing from that book jacine ?
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  228. # [07:28] <jacine> tw2113: rushing to get the sample code ready ;)
  229. # [07:29] <tw2113> ya know, i was debating trying to sway you over to the WordPress camp by promising i'd be a part of the deal, but then i remembered i wanted to succeed
  230. # [07:30] <jacine> tw2113: hehe :) I've got nothing against WordPress. You'll have to show me your tricks someday.
  231. # [07:31] <tw2113> :O flirty
  232. # [07:31] <tw2113> lols jk
  233. # [07:31] <tw2113> no one flirts with me
  234. # [07:32] <tw2113> now i know what you're thinking here jacine
  235. # [07:33] <tw2113> you're all like "awww that's a shame, you're funny, i assume you're cute, you have such personality!"
  236. # [07:33] <tw2113> but you shouldn't
  237. # [07:33] <tw2113> i'd get flirted with a lot more if i could actually afford to get out a bit and had people to go out with
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  242. # [07:38] <jacine> tw2113: LOL you are too much. Sorry… I just got roped into making a shit load of JS fiddle tests for html5 tags and attributes, trying to look for XSS issues. :(
  243. # [07:39] <tw2113> ick
  244. # [07:39] <tw2113> no worries
  245. # [07:39] <jacine> yeah :(
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  247. # [07:40] <tw2113> want me to drink more beer for you?
  248. # [07:40] <jacine> tw2113: yes plz.
  249. # [07:42] <tw2113> woohoo! sam adams imperial stout time!
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  284. # [09:38] <jetienne> in javascript spec, myarray[-1] == what ? in chrome/node/firefox it return undefined.. is it garanteed ?
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  341. # [12:07] <nlogax> jetienne: afaict, it only specifies what the special array index properties are. (ToString(ToUint32(P)) is equal to P and ToUint32(P) is not equal to 2321.)
  342. # [12:08] <nlogax> jetienne: var foo = []; foo[-1] = true; "works", it is not an array index in that case, does not have the properties of those (adjusting length etc)
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  350. # [12:39] <nikstepff> I have a problem with a new iPhone web app i am working on, its really simple right now: https://gist.github.com/1115380 but when i run it in the iOS simulator the "Add to home screen" dose not work, what do I do wrong? Thanks!
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  359. # [12:56] <jetienne> nlogax: "it is not an array index in that case, does not have the properties of those" can you explain ? i dont understand
  360. # [12:57] <jetienne> in my tests [][-1] === undefined
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  362. # [13:12] <Ms2ger`> jetienne, [][-1] == []["-1"], fwiw
  363. # [13:15] <jetienne> Ms2ger`: hmm ok. is it the same as [][1] == []["1"]... both being undefined ?
  364. # [13:17] <Ms2ger`> It's the same everywhere, ['a']['0'] === 'a'
  365. # [13:23] <nlogax> jetienne: arrays are objects but some properties are "special". if they fulfill the requirement above, then the property is an array index
  366. # [13:23] <nlogax> that's what i gathered from http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma-262.pdf anyway
  367. # [13:24] <nlogax> if the property name is "-1", then it's not special, just a property named "-1" like on any other object
  368. # [13:25] <nlogax> so, while silly, it's perfectly possible that someArr[-1] is !== undefined
  369. # [13:25] <jetienne> nlogax: just to be sure i get it, -1 isnt an array index, because toUint32 fails on it ?
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  371. # [13:30] <jetienne> looking for a html copy of the spec :)
  372. # [13:31] <jetienne> http://es5.github.com/ got one
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  375. # [13:33] <jetienne> http://es5.github.com/#array-element and http://es5.github.com/#x9.6
  376. # [13:34] <jetienne> gasp :)
  377. # [13:35] <nlogax> jetienne: yeah that;s basically it, if i read it correctly :P
  378. # [13:35] <nlogax> pretty gross
  379. # [13:36] <nlogax> ?eval var foo = [2]; foo[-1] = 3; foo[-1] + foo[0]
  380. # [13:36] <bot-t> nlogax: 5
  381. # [13:36] <nlogax> ?eval var foo = [2]; foo[-1] = 3; foo.length // should be 1
  382. # [13:36] <bot-t> nlogax: 1
  383. # [13:37] <Ms2ger`> ?eval printRootPassword()
  384. # [13:37] <bot-t> Ms2ger`: ReferenceError: printRootPassword is not defined
  385. # [13:37] <Ms2ger`> :(
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  441. # [16:41] <Thasmo> paul_irish, when downloading a custom modernizr build, selecting "add css classes", and using it on a webpage, it only adds 'js' as class to the html element. The others are all missing. Am i doing something wrong?
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  444. # [16:50] <skylamer`> yes
  445. # [16:51] <Thasmo> :D thanks :D
  446. # [16:51] <charged_bolt> :D :D :D
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  448. # [16:53] <Thasmo> Despite the fact that my question was answered with the effect of a high satisfaction I might come back with further questions later. Btw. do I need add *all* checkboxes to get all possible css classes added to the html element? =oP
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  450. # [17:13] <skylamer`> no
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  522. # [19:52] <xonecas> o/
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  622. # [23:44] <niftylettuce> seems input[type=submit] and input[type=input] width gets rendered incorrectly
  623. # [23:44] <niftylettuce> ill put up a jsfiddle
  624. # [23:44] <niftylettuce> (occurs in chrome at least)
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  632. # [23:52] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: http://jsfiddle.net/b7pgy/ where should I submit this issue?
  633. # [23:56] <gnarf> niftylettuce: http://jsfiddle.net/gnarf/b7pgy/2/
  634. # [23:56] <gnarf> box-sizing is "border-box" by default on submits
  635. # [23:56] <niftylettuce> gnarf: ahhh :) ty
  636. # Session Close: Sun Jul 31 00:00:00 2011

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