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  1. # Session Start: Sat Aug 06 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
  3. # [00:00] <Apetrini> moo-_-: ahhh
  4. # [00:01] <Apetrini> totally my fault, I tried to draw a context not a canvas
  5. # [00:01] <moo-_-> Apetrini: yes. I am never wrong :)
  6. # [00:01] <tw2113> except that one time
  7. # [00:01] <tw2113> but we don't speak of that
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  9. # [00:04] <tw2113> i mean, what were we discussing moo-_- ?
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  15. # [00:09] <moo-_-> tw2113: I am never wrong unless tw2113 is more right :)
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  17. # [00:09] <moo-_-> FYI http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6963091/selenium-enable-xpcom-access-and-write-to-a-file-from-javascript-in-firefox if anyone has ideas
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  28. # [00:18] <Apetrini> moo-_-: oh really thanks man! it works fine :)
  29. # [00:19] <moo-_-> Apetrini: just don't load images from different domain
  30. # [00:19] <moo-_-> or it will stop working
  31. # [00:19] <Apetrini> I know, I read about it somewhere.
  32. # [00:20] <moo-_-> it was discussed here today :)
  33. # [00:21] <Apetrini> I'm sorry for the naive question but what is the best way to create a new temporary canvas object ?
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  35. # [00:23] <Apetrini> I mean... I usually do "canvas = document.getElementById("myCanvas");" to create a canvas variable. In which other way I can do this ?
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  39. # [00:23] <Apetrini> my apologies for the questions, but I didn't find the answers within documentation...
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  66. # [00:48] <tw2113> cgcardona ya around?
  67. # [00:48] <cgcardona> for about ten more minutes. whats up tw2113 ?
  68. # [00:48] <tw2113> i was going to show you what I had for that class i mentioned
  69. # [00:49] <cgcardona> cool.
  70. # [00:49] <tw2113> i got some more work done on it, although i know it's far from perfect
  71. # [00:50] <tw2113> http://fpaste.org/rG7N/
  72. # [00:51] <gnarf> Apetrini: document.createElement( "canvas" ) *shrugs*
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  75. # [00:52] <cgcardona> reading now. I think there's a type on line 9. $userameorid; should be $usernameorid; ?
  76. # [00:52] <cgcardona> still checking it out
  77. # [00:52] <cgcardona> *typo
  78. # [00:52] <cgcardona> heh
  79. # [00:52] <cgcardona> i spelled typo wrong
  80. # [00:52] <cgcardona> *facepalm
  81. # [00:53] <cgcardona> this is nice tw2113
  82. # [00:53] <cgcardona> you're getting your OOP PHP down
  83. # [00:54] <tw2113> my general workflow with new things is get a version working, then harden it later
  84. # [00:54] <gnarf> ?twss
  85. # [00:54] <bot-t> <iainvdw> was fiddling with it for a while, got close a few times, but didn't do exaclty what i wanted, thx!
  86. # [00:54] <cgcardona> this looks really good
  87. # [00:54] <cgcardona> nice work
  88. # [00:55] <tw2113> thanks
  89. # [00:55] <tw2113> i need to refine the caching a little bit more, as i'm going to copy that over to a project
  90. # [00:55] <tw2113> but that one is a procedural page instead of a class
  91. # [00:56] <tw2113> also want to add an RSS version too, that may get a bit more interesting
  92. # [00:57] <gnarf> tw2113: you should really split that into 3 classes imo
  93. # [00:57] <cgcardona> this is for a personal project?
  94. # [00:57] <tw2113> the OOP part is for personal learning
  95. # [00:57] <gnarf> tw2113: SocialMediaAbstract which has two concrete classes for twitter / forrst
  96. # [00:57] <tw2113> something else is going to benefit from the caching part
  97. # [00:57] <gnarf> perhaps a factory to create them
  98. # [00:57] <cgcardona> off to a meeting and the public transp back home. bbiab .
  99. # [00:58] <cgcardona> again, nice work tw2113
  100. # [00:58] <cgcardona> :)
  101. # [00:58] <tw2113> ;)
  102. # [00:58] <cgcardona> ttyl
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  104. # [00:58] <tw2113> gnarf if's in the back of my head to split it up a bit more and extend
  105. # [01:00] <moo-_-> Apetrini: I have been just using createElement("canvas")
  106. # [01:00] <moo-_-> haven't seen anything better
  107. # [01:00] <tw2113> this is the most advanced class i've ever done *sniff*
  108. # [01:01] <gnarf> tw2113: its still super procedural ;)
  109. # [01:01] <gnarf> consider making the "cache" its own class too
  110. # [01:02] <gnarf> new MediaCache($network)
  111. # [01:02] <gnarf> ->read()
  112. # [01:02] <tw2113> most likely, i'm used to procedural
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  140. # [01:49] <thatryan> ouchie
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  150. # [02:13] <BrianBlakely> Have a grande weekend, HTML5
  151. # [02:13] <tw2113> smell ya later brian
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  171. # [03:05] <midgard> hey....got some strange problems. I cant select text in some content boxes on chrome and ie...what can causes this?
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  410. # [13:10] <drifter_m> html5rocks.com gives me the impression that this is only possible with sandboxed areas of file storage.
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  561. # [19:51] <paul_irish> ridiculous http://www.sencha.com/blog/announcing-the-senchacon-2011-app-contest/
  562. # [19:52] <materialdesigner> oh god
  563. # [19:53] <materialdesigner> didn't even know Sencha ran a conf
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  567. # 06[20:00] * moo-_- senses too much money
  568. # [20:01] <materialdesigner> time to bleed them of their excessive money
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  570. # [20:07] <moo-_-> I think we need bigger leeches for that
  571. # [20:07] <materialdesigner> We're gonna need a bigger boat?
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  575. # [20:10] <moo-_-> materialdesigner: let's have MonacoLeechConn 2012 on our boat
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  577. # [20:11] <materialdesigner> haha
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  596. # [20:56] <sephr> Does anyone know of a place I can download the default stylesheet for HTML?
  597. # [20:56] <sephr> well one that is intended to set the default styles
  598. # [20:56] <Ms2ger> whatwg.org/html/#rendering
  599. # [20:57] <sephr> thanks Ms2ger
  600. # [20:57] <sephr> is there one already pre-compiled together?
  601. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> Np
  602. # [20:57] <sephr> it's ok though it doesn't look like much work to put together myself
  603. # [20:59] <sephr> Ms2ger: btw is there any license I may need to include at the top of the file, due to it being whatwg IP?
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  605. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> No
  606. # [21:01] <Ms2ger> Though a reference is always a nice thing to do
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  608. # [21:03] <sephr> yeah I'm doing that
  609. # [21:03] <sephr> thanks
  610. # [21:05] <sephr> for br[clear=left] { clear: left; } /* case-insensitive */ etc. is the best solution to just do br[clear=left],br[clear=Left],br[clear=LEft] etc.?
  611. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> At this point, I guess so
  612. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> CSS4 will probably bring [clear=left i]
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  614. # [21:08] <sephr> I wish css4 would just bring xpath selectors :P
  615. # [21:09] <Ms2ger> Eww, eww, eww ;)
  616. # [21:10] <sephr> Ms2ger: um #rendering doesn't say anything about the default font-family
  617. # [21:10] <sephr> should I assume sans-serif?
  618. # [21:10] <sephr> ugh man this is so incomplete
  619. # [21:10] <Ms2ger> Doesn't CSS say that?
  620. # [21:11] <sephr> h# should have serif, right?
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  622. # [21:11] <Ms2ger> Dunno
  623. # [21:11] <sephr> oh, could you link me to the relevant part of the css spec about default fonts?
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  625. # [21:11] <sephr> Ms2ger: are you an editor of the whatwg spec?
  626. # [21:12] <Ms2ger> Nope
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  629. # [21:23] <kevindanko> Hello
  630. # [21:23] <kevindanko> im trying to validate my first wordpress site that is using an html5 boilerplate
  631. # [21:23] <paul_irish> uh oh
  632. # [21:24] <kevindanko> im gonna a message that says stray end tag section when attempting to end a section
  633. # [21:24] <kevindanko> i used </section>
  634. # [21:24] <kevindanko> what did i do wrong?
  635. # [21:24] <paul_irish> something?
  636. # [21:24] <kevindanko> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fkevindankowebdesign.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
  637. # [21:25] <materialdesigner> -_-
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  640. # [21:26] <materialdesigner> kevindanko: there is a closing tag on line 95, but no opening tag for the next section?
  641. # [21:27] <kevindanko> the section actually starts in a seperate php file
  642. # [21:27] <kevindanko> in header.php
  643. # [21:27] <materialdesigner> ...
  644. # [21:27] <kevindanko> and isnt supposed to end in that frontpagetemplate.php page, it ends on all other pages in footer.php
  645. # [21:27] <kevindanko> so i attempted to just end the section in that one php page
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  648. # [21:28] <kevindanko> however i noticed i was having alignment issues surrounding that section and went to validate and saw that
  649. # [21:28] <materialdesigner> only section I see is section id="content" role="main"
  650. # [21:28] <kevindanko> correct
  651. # [21:29] <kevindanko> thats the section im attempting to end
  652. # [21:29] <materialdesigner> and that ends on line and that ends on line 95
  653. # [21:29] <materialdesigner> with a </section>
  654. # [21:29] <kevindanko> yep
  655. # [21:30] <sephr> Ms2ger: I found something relevant http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/fonts.html#generic-font-families
  656. # [21:30] <kevindanko> on that front page
  657. # [21:30] <kevindanko> on other pages it ends further down
  658. # [21:30] <kevindanko> kevindankowebdesign.com
  659. # [21:30] <materialdesigner> ...
  660. # [21:30] <sephr> it helps because in my situation the generic font familes are broken :S
  661. # [21:30] <kevindanko> http://www.kevindankowebdesign.com
  662. # [21:30] <sephr> (<svg> in <img>)
  663. # [21:30] <sephr> in webkit
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  665. # [21:31] <materialdesigner> I'm confused as to what your question is, then
  666. # [21:31] <kevindanko> My question is why is it telling me its invalid
  667. # [21:31] <materialdesigner> because you have two </section>
  668. # [21:31] <materialdesigner> one on 95, and one on 122
  669. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> What materialdesigner said
  670. # [21:31] <materialdesigner> for only one <section role="content" id="main">
  671. # [21:31] <kevindanko> okay
  672. # [21:32] <kevindanko> i see what im doing wrong
  673. # [21:32] <kevindanko> thanks!
  674. # [21:32] <materialdesigner> np
  675. # [21:36] <kevindanko> due to my inexperience with html5, is there any particular reason to have the section role="content"> start in header.php or is it just developer preference?
  676. # [21:36] <kevindanko> section tags can be used anywhere right?
  677. # [21:37] <materialdesigner> yes
  678. # [21:37] <materialdesigner> except for inside <head></head>
  679. # [21:37] <kevindanko> why is that
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  681. # [21:37] <materialdesigner> the reason for starting <section id="main"> in the header.php is because it's repeated code
  682. # [21:38] <materialdesigner> and instead of having to write <section id="main"> inside of every single one of your body pages
  683. # [21:38] <materialdesigner> you can just write it once
  684. # [21:38] <kevindanko> okay
  685. # [21:38] <kevindanko> my issue is that i have additional divs that i dont want inside that section
  686. # [21:38] <kevindanko> so i attempted to end the section before the additonal divs
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  690. # [21:41] <materialdesigner> so then either take out the ending </section> from your footer.php
  691. # [21:41] <materialdesigner> or start a new section that will be ended by the </section> inside of your footer.php
  692. # [21:42] <kevindanko> ah got ya
  693. # [21:42] <kevindanko> that might be the better solution
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  697. # [21:51] <sephr> Ms2ger: is there an easy to parse list of every html element name?
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  699. # [21:51] <sephr> I'm going to font-family: serif; every element that doesn't use monospace
  700. # [21:52] <materialdesigner> have you looked at a CSS reset?
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  704. # [21:52] <materialdesigner> they usually have a list of every html element
  705. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> http://simon.html5.org/html-elements? That's probably conforming elements only, though
  706. # [21:52] <sephr> yeah I saw that but I wasn't sure since it wasn't a spec link
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  726. # [22:15] <sephr> Why doesn't CanvasRenderingContext2D.drawImage() support SVGImageElement?
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  728. # [22:21] <moo-_-> sephr: probably for implementation reasons
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  730. # [22:22] <sephr> it's just odd that I have to create <html:img> in my svg just to write an image to a canvas
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