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  1. # Session Start: Sat Aug 13 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
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  8. # [00:09] <RLa> nice, i wrote my code using module concepts
  9. # [00:10] <RLa> also eclipse recognizes it
  10. # [00:10] <RLa> anyway, some parts of code are rather verbose: media.ResultsArea.prototype.clear = function() {
  11. # [00:11] <RLa> media is the module name, is it possible to make such definitions shorter?
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  13. # [00:13] <xonecas> I don't think so
  14. # [00:14] <paul_irish> sephr: https://github.com/jankuca/dom-panda
  15. # [00:14] <paul_irish> appears to be same as the html2canvas approach
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  17. # [00:14] <sephr> yeah, which is pretty odd
  18. # [00:14] <sephr> this seems exactly like html2canvas
  19. # [00:15] <sephr> html2canvas takes the DOM and then, given the precomputed properties available from the DOM, draws an image to a canvas
  20. # [00:15] <sephr> kinda reinventing the wheel
  21. # [00:16] <sephr> paul_irish: though it does look nicer
  22. # [00:16] <sephr> and oddly it creates it's own NodeWalker O_o
  23. # [00:16] <sephr> TreeWalker*
  24. # [00:16] <sephr> which is already available in the DOM
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  26. # [00:17] <RLa> ok, now the second error to go
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  28. # [00:19] <RLa> http://pastebin.com/YiBmazdm <- having two loops with same loop variable
  29. # [00:20] <RLa> quick fix would be to rename the second loop variable name
  30. # [00:20] <RLa> but are there another ways?
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  32. # [00:30] <RLa> hm, just need to drop var from second loop
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  171. # [06:54] <dr0id> paul_irish: someone is spamming #jquery , could you ban him ?
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  174. # [06:54] <paul_irish> k
  175. # [06:54] <paul_irish> dr0id: who
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  178. # [06:57] <paul_irish> thx again dr0id
  179. # [06:58] <dr0id> yw :)
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  278. # [11:01] <mick__> is hard to learn html5
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  283. # [11:31] <Ms2ger> I don't think so
  284. # [11:32] <mick__> is it easy to learn
  285. # [11:38] <dr0id> LOL
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  394. # [16:37] <RLa> which css framework to use with html5?
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  396. # [16:37] <RLa> i see from Blueprint examples it already contains css definitions for html5 elements
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  398. # [16:38] <RLa> i guess the only difference will be using <section> and <article> in the markup instead of divs?
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  420. # [17:43] <ThePendulum> Greetings.
  421. # [17:44] <ThePendulum> I was wondering, is there any form of webcam streaming possible with HTML5 so far?
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  423. # [17:46] <RLa> ThePendulum, it has <video> tag
  424. # [17:46] <RLa> actually i have no idea about streaming video support, all examples i have seen have used static files
  425. # [17:47] <RLa> hm, you mean "any form"? i guess you could also use series of images, updated by javascript or something
  426. # [17:48] <ThePendulum> Well, it needs to be live
  427. # [17:48] <ThePendulum> I guess that will still be the good old flash then.
  428. # [17:49] <RLa> you should look into streaming video support of <video> tag
  429. # [17:49] <ThePendulum> Where exactly can I find the best reference on this?
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  431. # [17:52] <RLa> google for it
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  434. # [17:52] <RLa> ThePendulum, https://labs.ericsson.com/developer-community/blog/beyond-html5-conversational-voice-and-video-implemented-webkit-gtk
  435. # [17:53] <RLa> that might be interesting
  436. # [17:53] <RLa> also, i think there is a big difference whether webcam is local or remote
  437. # [17:53] <ThePendulum> I am creating a social website, and I would like to add webcam conversations
  438. # [17:54] <RLa> then that might be just the right thing you need
  439. # [17:54] <ThePendulum> Thank you for the link btw :)
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  441. # [17:57] <ThePendulum> Not very relevant, but there aren't any web developers who have some spare time left and would like to contribute to my project, correct?
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  443. # [18:02] <RLa> you gotta look around, i'm sure some would be interested
  444. # [18:03] <ThePendulum> I managed to get 1 person in my team. Others just mentioned how stupid I was asking for volunteers
  445. # [18:03] <RLa> i'm having too much work at the moment and i'm just beginner in html5/javascript programming
  446. # [18:03] <RLa> that's not stupid
  447. # [18:04] <ThePendulum> I'm not very experienced myself, that's why I need a team
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  450. # [18:07] <Emperorlou> whats the project?
  451. # [18:07] <ThePendulum> It's a web application about meeting new people. The core idea can be compared to sites like Omegle, though my concept is a very advanced version of such services
  452. # [18:07] <RLa> what comes to html5 features, i doubt there are lot of people with experience, html5 has envolved rapidly in last year and is rather new tech
  453. # [18:07] <ThePendulum> Well, I was just mentioning it here since HTML5 regards web development after all
  454. # [18:07] <Emperorlou> I dunno about that, it doesn't take long to become an expert in html5
  455. # [18:07] <RLa> this would be nice opportunity to gain some html5 experience
  456. # [18:07] <ThePendulum> I guess it might be better to use flash for webcams at the moment
  457. # [18:08] <ThePendulum> Forcing people to upgrade their browsing results in a huge lost in users
  458. # [18:08] <RLa> Emperorlou, do you know devices api? i think that's one ThePendulum needs to use
  459. # [18:08] <Emperorlou> I think very recently google opened up their video chat technology
  460. # [18:08] <ThePendulum> Where? :O
  461. # [18:08] <RLa> google wave?
  462. # [18:08] <Emperorlou> i saw an article recently
  463. # [18:08] <ThePendulum> 1 moment :P
  464. # [18:09] <RLa> i think that was using old tech, not html5
  465. # [18:09] <Emperorlou> yea I dunno
  466. # [18:09] <Emperorlou> prolly old tech tho yea
  467. # [18:09] <RLa> btw, have you though how to solve bandwidth problem
  468. # [18:09] <Emperorlou> like, it would require websockets which haven't been finalized yet
  469. # [18:09] <ThePendulum> p2p
  470. # [18:10] <ThePendulum> I was hoping the founder of Omegle would be a nice guy and would love to brainstorm about my project, but he appears to be a douche
  471. # [18:10] <RLa> will that work with mobile devices?
  472. # [18:10] <ThePendulum> Not sure
  473. # [18:10] <ThePendulum> But I am targetting desktop browsers first
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  475. # [18:10] <ThePendulum> I don't think webcam chat is such a smart idea for mobile devices
  476. # [18:11] <RLa> i hope newer mobile devices have better connectivity than old j2me-based phones
  477. # [18:11] <RLa> i think that was not even tcp, instead some weird stuff on top of gsm
  478. # [18:11] <ThePendulum> The only issue at the moment is finding a name for my project so development can start! D:
  479. # [18:11] <Emperorlou> video chat from mobile devices is about to become mainstream
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  481. # [18:12] <RLa> you can use name generators :)
  482. # [18:12] <ThePendulum> HTML6 needs something like <generatebusinessname> lol
  483. # [18:12] <ThePendulum> Yeah I know
  484. # [18:12] <ThePendulum> I've tried them
  485. # [18:12] <ThePendulum> Never mind :P
  486. # [18:12] <RLa> Emperorlou, i would argue
  487. # [18:12] <ThePendulum> brb --> phone :O
  488. # [18:13] <Emperorlou> it'll be a basic requirement of phones and people will use it. I'm not saying it'll be used the majority of the time
  489. # [18:13] <Emperorlou> its like 3D tvs
  490. # [18:13] <Emperorlou> you dont use 3d all the time, just when you want
  491. # [18:13] <tw2113> i still demand <sarcasm> becoming valid
  492. # [18:13] <RLa> i think there have been numerous attempts since 60's to bring video chat into mainstream but it does not catch up because of social reasons, not technical reasons
  493. # [18:13] <Emperorlou> yea thats the thing
  494. # [18:14] <Emperorlou> people like invisibility
  495. # [18:14] <RLa> 3D tv is just the same!
  496. # [18:14] <Emperorlou> but its going to become mainstream in the sense that everyone can and will use it, but not all the time
  497. # [18:14] <tw2113> you mean i won't get to make phone calls like on star trek with the huge screen?
  498. # [18:14] <Emperorlou> exactly
  499. # [18:14] <tw2113> i think people just secretly like to answer the phone nude
  500. # [18:15] <RLa> uh, how many times have you got phone call in the middle of special activities
  501. # [18:16] <tw2113> we're developers, we get those times?
  502. # [18:16] <tw2113> or is that just me?
  503. # [18:18] <RLa> well anyway, there are many social reasons why not to use video chat
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  505. # [18:18] <Emperorlou> there are just as many social reasons to use it
  506. # [18:19] <Emperorlou> but anyway, I think we're in agreement
  507. # [18:20] <RLa> ThePendulum, also tried to ask for members in #startups?
  508. # [18:20] <RLa> lot of tech people there as well
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  513. # [18:26] <ThePendulum> Woosh
  514. # [18:27] <ThePendulum> Thanks for refering me to startups
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  528. # [18:56] <ThePendulum> Hm
  529. # [18:56] <ThePendulum> Nothing there :(
  530. # [18:56] <ThePendulum> They want to see my idea working
  531. # [18:56] <ThePendulum> -sigh- If it worked, I wouldn't need them
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  577. # [20:53] <paul_irish> yes https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/table.insertRow exists
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  579. # [20:54] <tw2113> how are you doing paul_irish ?
  580. # [20:54] <paul_irish> adding browser compat table to that page
  581. # [20:54] <tw2113> cool
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