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  1. # Session Start: Wed Aug 17 00:00:00 2011
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  13. # [00:19] <BrianBlakely> When will FF6 be pushed out to FF5 users?
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  15. # [00:19] <BrianBlakely> It's a passive update, correct?
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  17. # [00:24] <sic1> i dont know, but is FF making u auto update?
  18. # [00:24] <tw2113> not yet
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  21. # [00:24] <tw2113> it's listed on getfirefox.com
  22. # [00:25] <sic1> im not against it, just would be interesting
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  24. # [00:25] <sic1> someday...all our users will have the latest greatest...someday.......
  25. # [00:25] <tw2113> i think auto-updates are coming in 7 or 8
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  28. # [00:28] <BrianBlakely> tw2113: I thought they came in 4 or 5
  29. # [00:29] <BrianBlakely> Dammit, does Paul Rouget frequent here?
  30. # [00:30] <tw2113> i'm fairly certain i've seen him in here, but it's been awhile
  31. # [00:30] <tw2113> and not frequently
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  33. # [00:32] <BrianBlakely> yeah...
  34. # [00:33] <BrianBlakely> https://twitter.com/brianblakely/status/103593359276380161
  35. # [00:33] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/nslAmc @brianblakely: Hi @paulrouget, when will passive auto-updating come to Firefox? Or has it already (and if so, when did that happen)?
  36. # [00:33] <BrianBlakely> And now, some dude chilling at the top of a 300-foot radio tower: http://www.newson6.com/category/202152/pop-up-video-player-kotv-encoder-2?redirected=true
  37. # [00:34] <BrianBlakely> Been up there since Friday
  38. # [00:34] <BrianBlakely> How does he sleep?
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  47. # [00:47] <cgcardona> tw2113: i fired up firefox and clicked firefox->about firefox and it auto updated to 6.
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  50. # [00:53] <tw2113> but i think in the future you may not need to even visit the about page
  51. # [00:53] <tw2113> it'll just download in the background and next time you restart, it upgrades itself
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  57. # [00:58] <tw2113> ya know what's awesome cgcardona ?
  58. # [00:58] <cgcardona> tw2113: yeah I think they'll auto update like you mentioned going forward. What is awesome? A Billion Dollars?
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  61. # [01:00] <tw2113> this year, my birthday won't be spent sitting in a rent-a-cop outfit
  62. # [01:00] <cgcardona> nice! when is your bday?!
  63. # [01:00] <cgcardona> how old are you turning?
  64. # [01:00] <cgcardona> let me guess. 23
  65. # [01:00] <tw2113> 18th, and 28
  66. # [01:00] <cgcardona> nice
  67. # [01:00] <cgcardona> happy early bday tw2113 !!!!!!!!!
  68. # [01:01] <tw2113> thanks
  69. # [01:01] <cgcardona> did everyone lurking in the shadows read that?! This thursday is tw2113 's 28th bday!!!!!!
  70. # [01:01] <gavacho> im excited
  71. # [01:01] <tw2113> as usual, i'm holding my wordwide party
  72. # [01:01] <tw2113> if you're alive, you're invited
  73. # [01:01] <tw2113> just celebrate wherever you are
  74. # [01:02] <tw2113> raise a pint to your lips, tip back, enjoy
  75. # [01:02] * cgcardona starts to celebrate right now!
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  78. # [01:04] <tw2113> i know my parents will be in town for unrelated things, mostly medical
  79. # [01:04] <tw2113> and i have a content strategy meeting to attend
  80. # [01:05] <tw2113> the rest of the day is pretty open though
  81. # [01:05] <cgcardona> you gonna hang with the parents?
  82. # [01:05] <tw2113> for part of it, ye
  83. # [01:05] <tw2113> yes
  84. # [01:05] <tw2113> my mom is scheduled for some heart work, if i recall right
  85. # [01:05] <tw2113> too irregular
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  88. # [01:11] <elkng> Kenshin is 28 years old
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  90. # [01:13] <cgcardona> tw2113: I hope everything is ok with your mom.
  91. # [01:13] <tw2113> same
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  106. # [01:35] <cgcardona> the love of her son can heal her heart ;-]
  107. # [01:35] <cgcardona> </sappy joke>
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  109. # [01:44] <tw2113> i like how many interviews on national news channels use Skype for interview
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  111. # [01:45] <tw2113> i said "interview" too many times
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  147. # [02:40] <timely> anyone here familiar w/ websockets?
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  159. # [03:01] <danbeam> anybody messed with HTML5 drag and drop?
  160. # [03:03] <tw2113> nope
  161. # [03:03] <tw2113> otherwise, sup dan
  162. # [03:03] <danbeam> haha, sup tw2113
  163. # [03:03] <danbeam> tw2113: happy soon to be birthday
  164. # [03:03] <danbeam> tw2113: mine was 2 weeks ago
  165. # [03:04] <danbeam> tw2113: Leos ftw
  166. # [03:04] <daleharvey> I did a thing with drag and grop a while ago
  167. # [03:04] <daleharvey> *drop
  168. # [03:04] <danbeam> daleharvey: it's a little screwy, isn't it? haha
  169. # [03:05] <danbeam> daleharvey: I was wondering if when you're dragging it's possible to clone the node you're dragging (I want to style the original node but not the node I'm holding onto)
  170. # [03:05] <daleharvey> I ended up making http://dropup.net/ although I didnt do a whole lot with it
  171. # [03:06] <tw2113> word
  172. # [03:06] <danbeam> daleharvey: ah, I'm talking about d'n'd inside a browser with [draggable] on nodes
  173. # [03:06] <danbeam> daleharvey: same API, different use
  174. # [03:06] <tw2113> out of curiosity, has anyone ever called you dan beamer?
  175. # [03:06] <danbeam> tw2113: yes
  176. # [03:06] <tw2113> damn, i wanted to be the first
  177. # [03:07] <danbeam> tw2113: sorry, bro
  178. # [03:07] <tw2113> i'll have to find something else
  179. # [03:07] <daleharvey> yeh vaguelly remember looking into the in browser drag and drop stuff, but not a whole lot, so I dont know, sorry
  180. # [03:07] <tw2113> maybe i can get "beam" the santorum treatment *runs away*
  181. # [03:08] <danbeam> daleharvey: it's all good, thanks for tryin :)
  182. # [03:09] <danbeam> tw2113: gross...
  183. # [03:09] <tw2113> good thing i'm kidding
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  185. # [03:10] <tw2113> but with that said, bbl
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  189. # [03:22] <daleharvey> heh, how do you scroll to the top in a mobile browser, without invoking the scrollbar
  190. # [03:23] <daleharvey> window.scrollTo(0,1) give you an annoying little pixel shift
  191. # [03:25] <danbeam> daleharvey: hide the overflow while you're doing it
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  193. # [03:27] <danbeam> daleharvey: and detect when you've gotten to the top and then reshow (if you need to do this)
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  197. # [03:36] <daleharvey> nah that isnt the problem
  198. # [03:37] <daleharvey> when you go to a page that doesnt have a scrollbar, window.scrollTo(0,1) doesnt scroll, when you do have a scrollbar, it goes down 1px
  199. # [03:37] <daleharvey> http://couch.arandomurl.com/mobilefuton/_design/mobilefuton/index.html#/
  200. # [03:37] <daleharvey> it only seems to happen on mobile browsers though, and for some reason I cant just force a scrollbar
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  202. # [03:39] <danbeam> daleharvey: html { overflow-y: scroll; }
  203. # [03:39] <daleharvey> its there
  204. # [03:39] <danbeam> doesn't work?
  205. # [03:39] <danbeam> ah
  206. # [03:40] <daleharvey> I think I just need to be less pedantic
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  208. # [03:43] <danbeam> daleharvey: lol, I thought that URL was fake (arandomurl.com), but then it works
  209. # [03:43] * danbeam was like >>>(^o^)<<<
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  212. # [03:46] <daleharvey> yeh I had a hard time coming up with a domain name
  213. # [03:46] <daleharvey> so I just typed arandomurl, and it was there
  214. # [03:47] <danbeam> daleharvey: lolol
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  216. # [03:52] <daleharvey> actually you can see the 1px shift if you look closely
  217. # [03:52] <daleharvey> http://couch.arandomurl.com/mobilefuton/_design/mobilefuton/index.html#/ click on databases, then the icon in the top left
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  223. # [04:08] <OzDave_mbp> instead of moving the mouse all the way to the top to go backwards one step, a little up arrow behind the right arrow would be faster ;)
  224. # [04:08] <OzDave_mbp> ahh its home at the top but you get the idea
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  282. # [06:33] <E3D3> How to put more (human) languages (like Russian, Greek etc) in a page ? lang="en-ru-el" xml:lang="en-ru-el" didn't work
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  290. # [06:47] <danheberden> E3D3 put the overall language in your html tag, and specify the lang attr in your content - e.g. <p lang="ru">привет</p>
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  299. # [07:05] <E3D3> Sorry for my late reply. I tried your suggestion. Also tried <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en-ru-el" xml:lang="en-ru-el">. That also didn't work.
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  301. # [07:05] <nimbupani> what should work?
  302. # [07:06] <E3D3> I want to display different languages on my page but can't get it to work (yet)
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  308. # [07:16] <danheberden> you can't mix it in the lang tag, what if you have en-he? you gonna put dir="rtl-ltr" in there too?
  309. # [07:16] <danheberden> that's why it can be specific to the container
  310. # [07:17] <danheberden> <p lang="he" dir="rtl">werbeh evol ew</p>
  311. # [07:17] <E3D3> I read on different places that it should work like that. But I also tried them solo (only ru etc) that also didn't work. Tried also UTF-8
  312. # [07:18] <E3D3> Guess I have a different problem. I will try on jsfiddle.net. brb
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  315. # [07:22] <E3D3> Ah, I see my foreign tokens are messed up somewhere in between saving with different editors. I tried to much. Now its works. Have to found where it started working. Thanks
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  317. # [07:27] <jblomo> for html5boilerplate, what's the right technique for including versioned, page specific, javascript?
  318. # [07:29] <nimbupani> jblomo: http://paulirish.com/2009/markup-based-unobtrusive-comprehensive-dom-ready-execution/
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  322. # [07:42] <jblomo> nimbu: cool, this looks great
  323. # [07:42] <jblomo> and i can keep my <script defer> tags
  324. # [07:44] <nimbu> yep
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  327. # [07:53] <xtc> hello guys... can i ask about the html5shiv js here?
  328. # [07:56] <dr0id> nope
  329. # [07:58] <xtc> is there a channel where i can go ask for h4lp?
  330. # [07:58] <dr0id> don't ask to ask, just ask!
  331. # [07:58] <nimbu> ?ask
  332. # [07:58] <bot-t> If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for topic experts. Don't ask to ask. Don't PM! Don't ask if people are awake, or in the mood to help. Just ask the question straight out. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  333. # [08:00] <dr0id> lol, I did that in #jquery, didn't know the bot was lurking here
  334. # [08:01] <xtc> i know i know... sometimes people find it offending to come asking about off topic stuff... anyway. I'm using the html5shiv script to be able to use html5 on IE, and it's working almost correctly, but it is having issues processing the <content> tag. In the dom it appears as having no content and it's children end up belonging to the content's parent. Any known reason this could be happening?
  335. # [08:01] <niftylettuce> paul_irish_: any recording from your talk?
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  338. # [08:02] <niftylettuce> nimbu: hi tharj
  339. # [08:02] <niftylettuce> tharr*
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  341. # [08:02] <xtc> ok... nevermind. I just came to a sad sad sad realization. Please don't bully me D:
  342. # [08:03] <xtc> I've always believed <content> existed... but it doesn't.
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  344. # [08:04] <nimbu> niftylettuce: yo
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  346. # [08:04] <niftylettuce> nimbu: we haz the same weather :( rain rain rain, i need moar umbrella
  347. # [08:05] <tw2113> you wet people
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  349. # [08:05] <nimbu> o where u niftylettuce
  350. # [08:05] <tw2113> content doesn't exist xtc ?!?!?!
  351. # [08:05] <nimbu> also its sunny in seattle now
  352. # [08:06] <tw2113> but but...i have a content strategy meeting on thursday
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  354. # [08:06] <niftylettuce> nimbu: east of pittsburgh
  355. # [08:06] <nimbu> ahh
  356. # [08:07] <niftylettuce> tw2113: content strategy meeting aka what code do i hav to type
  357. # [08:07] <tw2113> ironic you mention typing
  358. # [08:08] <tw2113> i was just talking with a friend about how i'm typing in latin placeholder text
  359. # [08:08] <niftylettuce> lipsum.com yo
  360. # [08:08] <niftylettuce> cept i wish they had without \n breaks
  361. # [08:08] <xtc> tw2113 :<
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  388. # [09:15] <matjas> xtc: it does on planet XML
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  432. # [10:13] <xtc> hey... so we finally published the site :) http://www.zouppowered.com/
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  458. # [10:49] <matjas> xtc: type=text/javascript and type=text/css are redundant
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  461. # [10:50] <matjas> xtc: also you could optimize the analytics snippet (see http://mths.be/aab)
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  513. # [12:48] <luretryne> Anyone can recommend a nice article/guide online for basic html5?
  514. # [12:49] <luretryne> tells about the new tags and what they do etc
  515. # [12:53] <PeeterWork> diveintohtml5.org
  516. # [12:56] <nikstepff> +1 for diveintohtml5.org
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  537. # [14:16] <matjas> luretryne: if you have experience with XHTML1/HTML4 and you’re looking for a short intro to HTML5, you could also check out http://mathiasbynens.be/notes/html5-levels
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  582. # [15:24] <PeeterWork> Anyone got any info on if using a ContextMenu is a good idea?
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  590. # [15:32] <BrianBlakely> PeeterWork: You mean overriding the "natural" context menu?
  591. # [15:32] <BrianBlakely> PeeterWork: It suits Google Maps well enough: http://maps.google.com/
  592. # [15:32] <djazz> does there exist/has anyone made something similar to this? http://i.imgur.com/hTJm5.png A gridview/stringgrid...
  593. # [15:33] <djazz> it could be just a table.. but the top "tabs" must be fixed and have correct width and I want it to work just like a <select, that I can select rows, move up/down with arrows, insert/remove/sort items..
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  596. # [15:35] <BrianBlakely> djazz: I have. I found it worked great with highly semantic tables, but I seem to recall that IE7 had problems with overflow: scroll;
  597. # [15:35] <BrianBlakely> djazz: ...but I didn't try using position: fixed on the thead, and that may have worked
  598. # [15:35] <djazz> oh, can you show me?
  599. # [15:35] <BrianBlakely> djazz: But overflow: scroll on the tbody was a problem
  600. # [15:35] <BrianBlakely> djazz: Let's see if I can pull up the view online
  601. # [15:36] <BrianBlakely> djazz: Here we go: http://servicenet.dewalt.com/Products/Detail/15035
  602. # [15:36] <djazz> hmm, overflow: scroll; on tbody, interesting
  603. # [15:36] <djazz> selectable rows?
  604. # [15:37] <BrianBlakely> These aren't terribly interactive, but it would be trivial to make it happen
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  606. # [15:37] <djazz> would it be possible to use <select> as columns?
  607. # [15:37] <djazz> :)
  608. # [15:38] <BrianBlakely> Nope
  609. # [15:38] <BrianBlakely> You can't style them
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  611. # [15:38] <djazz> i mean, then I don't have to re-implement selecting, keyboard focus, etc..
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  613. # [15:39] <djazz> (you saw my image)
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  615. # [15:39] <BrianBlakely> I made a jQ plugin I could give you that allows styling of <select> — it's used on marvel.com and other sites: http://marvel.com/
  616. # [15:39] <BrianBlakely> (inspect the <select> the top-right corner for a quick example)
  617. # [15:40] <djazz> thats just a background image..?
  618. # [15:40] <djazz> im on chrome
  619. # [15:40] <djazz> ah
  620. # [15:40] <djazz> i see
  621. # [15:40] <djazz> nice
  622. # [15:41] <BrianBlakely> It handles all events you would expect, you just tie them to the original <select>, and then you style the <span>s
  623. # [15:41] <djazz> what about change event, selectedIndex?
  624. # [15:42] <BrianBlakely> Yeah, the <span>s transmit everything to <select>, serving only as a proxy
  625. # [15:42] <djazz> hmm, the scrollbar there seems glitchy when pressing up/down
  626. # [15:43] <djazz> hmm.. nvm
  627. # [15:43] <djazz> pressing outside doesnt hide it
  628. # [15:43] <djazz> clicking an item dont hide it
  629. # [15:44] <BrianBlakely> Huh, yeah, I see the keyboard interaction is weird. Maybe they messed around with it, or changes in Chrome caused bugs. However, I'm not seeing problems with mouse events
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  631. # [15:45] <djazz> reloaded the page, now it works
  632. # [15:45] <djazz> :s
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  635. # [15:46] <BrianBlakely> Oh, indeed!
  636. # [15:47] <BrianBlakely> Well, there are a lot of libraries like this now
  637. # [15:47] <djazz> I guess I'll try make one from scratch, using the thead/tbody tip thx ;)
  638. # [15:48] <BrianBlakely> A <select> styler from scratch? That could be time-consuming, heads up
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  640. # [15:49] <djazz> I'll try first if I can use a <select>
  641. # [15:49] <djazz> as columns
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  645. # [15:52] <djazz> possible to hide the scrollbar of <select>?
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  650. # [15:58] <djazz> nvm, solved it (webkit only): select::-webkit-scrollbar { width: 0px; height: 0px;}
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  655. # [16:01] <NoNoNo> djazz: why would you want to do this?
  656. # [16:01] <djazz> so I can have one scrollbar to scroll all <select> boxes/columns
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  660. # [16:02] <NoNoNo> djazz: BTW I like this SELECT enhancement: http://harvesthq.github.com/chosen/
  661. # [16:03] <NoNoNo> (but does not work well on mobile browsers)
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  663. # [16:03] <djazz> nice
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  665. # [16:07] <BrianBlakely> Yeah, Chosen is good
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  668. # [16:07] <BrianBlakely> It is possible to do this with CSS: http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/composition/17431805/view/1/type/png/width/178/height/178/four-point-star_design.png
  669. # [16:08] <djazz> rounded corners?
  670. # [16:11] <BrianBlakely> djazz: Well, imploded corners
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  693. # [16:41] <skyler_brungardt> kevva: *shudder*
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  695. # [16:41] <skyler_brungardt> I'm going to have flashbacks of Dreamweaver.
  696. # [16:41] <nimbu> BrianBlakely: of course
  697. # [16:41] <nimbu> just use gradients
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  700. # [16:45] <BrianBlakely> nimbu: Good suggestion, but then there's a curve ball - I wanted to use box-shadow on this shape as well!
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  702. # [16:46] <nimbu> why dont you do that with gradients?
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  704. # [16:48] <BrianBlakely> nimbu: Because I'm scared :(
  705. # [16:48] <nimbu> BrianBlakely: …
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  707. # [16:49] <BrianBlakely> Looks hard, man
  708. # [16:49] <nimbu> BrianBlakely: just keep trying you will get it. :P
  709. # [16:50] <nimbu> BrianBlakely: you just need a repeating gradient and one that has a "box-shadow" or w/e within or without
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  712. # [16:54] <BrianBlakely> nimbu: I'll take a look at the gradient gallery and MDN.. thank you for the encouragement :D
  713. # [16:55] <BrianBlakely> Oh shiz, iOS 5 supports repeating gradients
  714. # [16:56] <BrianBlakely> Finality
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  717. # [16:58] <BrianBlakely> That's annoying, iOS 5 still reports support for WebGL. LIARS!
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  735. # [17:16] <seutje> safari lies about more things than just that :
  736. # [17:16] <seutje> :(
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  738. # [17:17] <moo-_-> BrianBlakely: is iOS 5 still beta?
  739. # [17:17] <moo-_-> maybe they drop it it in in the last update
  740. # [17:17] <moo-_-> oooor
  741. # [17:17] <moo-_-> they couldn't get it work :)
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  751. # [17:27] <BrianBlakely> moo-_-: It's in beta 5 right now, due to go public in about a month
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  777. # [18:04] <humph> paul_irish: you home?
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  782. # [18:21] <BrianBlakely> Alright, text-overflow: ellipsis;
  783. # [18:21] <BrianBlakely> Can we do this with more than one line?
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  787. # [18:27] <nimbu> BrianBlakely: only for multi-col i think
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  793. # [18:32] <elkng> can VP8 infringe on some of the H264 patents ?
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  795. # [18:33] <elkng> "There are, however, rumors that VP8 might infringe on some of the H264 patents, so stay up to date." <- its frome one article
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  801. # [18:38] <tantek> elkng - that FUD/rumor has been around since the introduction of VP8 - and no one's presented any evidence etc. Appears to be just scare tactics against VP8.
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  808. # [18:49] <Sembiance> elkng: why are you even worrying about VP8 patent threats? you don't have any control over it. Besides, as a developer or a company you have to ensure your videos work for all browsers and codecs, so it's not like your ever gonna choose "just VP8"
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  810. # [18:54] <tw2113> the people who are going to make the most fight in favor of h.264 are anyone who invested money in it. primarily Apple and Microsoft
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  840. # [19:38] <BrianBlakely> nimbu: Oh, that makes sense, but it stinks! Single-line ellipses are rarely desired. JavaScript it is, then!
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  844. # [19:40] <BrianBlakely> I tried some ::first-line shenanigans - no dice
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  853. # [19:48] <nimbu> BrianBlakely: paste it in a fiddle
  854. # [19:49] <irae_> text-overflow:ellipsis; working only on one line blocks is a shame. it's useless for so many cases… last time I tried that I was hoping the browser's implementations were buggy
  855. # [19:50] <BrianBlakely> nimbu: Oh, I didn't mean that I have a solution; I've tried a couple things and failed.
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  857. # [19:50] <timmywil> paul_irish: http://enable-javascript.com/
  858. # [19:50] <timmywil> sadface
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  861. # [19:51] <BrianBlakely> I also tried setting only the height of the element and hoping that would work, but since nowrap seems to be a requirement for text-overflow to wake up…
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  863. # [19:52] <nimbu> ohhh text-overflow forgot what it was about
  864. # [19:52] <nimbu> yeah nowrap is abs much
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  867. # [19:55] <nimbu> mike5w3c: PM
  868. # [19:57] <kennyluck> Is this the best channel for general <canvas> discussion?
  869. # [20:00] <irae_> yes
  870. # [20:00] <xonecas> kennyluck: you can also try your luck in three.js, lots of smart people there too
  871. # [20:01] <irae_> i didn't know that, great to know
  872. # [20:02] <kennyluck> yeah, thank you both
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  948. # [21:31] <xonecas> What should I be carefull with when using the in operator?
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  985. # [22:16] <Thasmo> Anyone knows if it would make sense to cache HTML files also, like for 24 hours?
  986. # [22:16] <Aric> Caching, caching, caching.
  987. # [22:17] <johnkpaul> Thasmo: I'm confused by the question
  988. # [22:17] <Aric> The art of caching is always knowing the frequency to cache, but depends on how static the cached resource is.
  989. # [22:17] <Thasmo> johnkpaul, I meant if it would make sense to send headers to tell clients to cache also HTML files for a specific time.
  990. # [22:18] <johnkpaul> that depends on your situation doesn't it?
  991. # [22:18] <johnkpaul> if it's a static file
  992. # [22:18] <johnkpaul> that is not intended to change for some amount of time
  993. # [22:18] <johnkpaul> then yeah, cache it like crazy
  994. # [22:18] <Thasmo> johnkpaul, alright - I understand. :>
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  996. # [22:19] <Thasmo> johnkpaul, just wondering why html5boilerplate has an expiration time of 0 for HTML files. Is it just for "safety" reasons that noone will get problems if used right away?
  997. # [22:20] <johnkpaul> isn't that oen of the changes in the new version?
  998. # [22:20] <johnkpaul> "Build script no longer upgrades expires headers in the htaccess. 1yr for everyone! "
  999. # [22:20] <johnkpaul> I don't use any of the server side stuff, so to be honest, I don't know
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  1001. # [22:21] <Thasmo> k
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  1006. # [22:33] <tw2113> thatryan I need to come up with some good passive income tools
  1007. # [22:33] <thatryan> dont we all ;)
  1008. # [22:33] <tw2113> i'm looking at a basic php contact form on codecanyon.net
  1009. # [22:34] <tw2113> $4 purchase, and $20 purchase for an extended license
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  1011. # [22:34] <tw2113> 2069 sales x $4 = $8276
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  1013. # [22:35] <paul_irish> Thasmo: yes its for safety
  1014. # [22:36] <paul_irish> caching on html is like.. not something people are used to
  1015. # [22:36] <thatryan> tw2113: you going to make a contact form to sell?
  1016. # [22:36] <paul_irish> and probably sint worth it at all
  1017. # [22:36] <thatryan> paul_irish: great talk last night dude :)
  1018. # [22:36] <paul_irish> thx b
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  1020. # [22:36] <tw2113> no, just using one i saw as an example
  1021. # [22:36] <thatryan> twitter rocked it out, kegarator and a dj lol
  1022. # [22:38] <paul_irish> humph: here nao
  1023. # [22:38] <humph> paul_irish: question re: an issue we're hitting with resource loading in chrome
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  1027. # [22:39] <humph> we're doing fontface stuff, and for reasons we can't figure out, chrome is sometimes not loading the font (in time)
  1028. # [22:39] <humph> as though it's letting js happen sooner than it should
  1029. # [22:39] * humph gets a url
  1030. # [22:40] <humph> paul_irish: http://processingjs.nihongoresources.com/test/textwidthchrome/
  1031. # [22:40] <humph> works everywhere but chrome
  1032. # [22:40] <humph> and in chrome, if you do a quick reload, it's there
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  1034. # [22:47] <Thasmo> paul_irish, thanks for the explanation.
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