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- # Session Start: Sat Aug 20 00:00:00 2011
- # Session Ident: #html5
- # [00:00] <xonecas> can you encode it?
- # [00:00] <xonecas> you could encode it to base64 and send it as a string, a node server can handle base64 and save it as binary
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- # [00:02] <colinsullivan> I'm trying to do this all in the browser
- # [00:02] <colinsullivan> base64 would work just fine
- # [00:02] <colinsullivan> I'm not sure how to convert my blob to base64 then back to blob, however
- # [00:02] <colinsullivan> in the browser
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- # [00:04] <xonecas> colinsullivan: http://studyjava.org/client-side-scripts/convert-string-to-blob-and-blob-to-string this is in java
- # [00:04] <xonecas> maybe something similar can be done with javascript String construcor?
- # [00:04] <colinsullivan> hmm
- # [00:06] <colinsullivan> Looks like a blob string representation is this: [object Blob]
- # [00:06] <xonecas> predictable lol
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- # [00:10] <colinsullivan> I think I got something, http://www.w3.org/TR/FileAPI/#dfn-readAsText
- # [00:10] <colinsullivan> we'll see how it works
- # [00:10] <colinsullivan> I was trying the other "readAs…" methods
- # [00:10] <colinsullivan> because I thought the text encoding would mess things up
- # [00:11] <colinsullivan> but it seems to be unchanged when converted back and forth
- # [00:12] <xonecas> *thumbs up!*
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- # [00:31] <colinsullivan> Nope, didn't work :(
- # [00:32] <colinsullivan> It looks fine, but I guess something in the encoding is messed up
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- # [00:36] <peol> http://i.imgur.com/8g7Bw.jpg The new IE10
- # [00:36] <peol> (from reedit)
- # [00:36] <peol> reddit, damn autocorrect
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- # [00:58] <pandeiro> anyone know if autocomplete="on" is supposed to work with ajax-loaded DOM elements in any browser?
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- # [01:04] <BrianBlakely> pandeiro: I can't confirm whether it does, but it should
- # [01:05] <BrianBlakely> God dammit - styling tables
- # [01:05] <pandeiro> BrianBlakely: not sure i'm using it right but in Chrome 13 and FF 6 it does not
- # [01:06] <BrianBlakely> What if you tweak autocomplete off and back on?
- # [01:06] <BrianBlakely> Maybe it needs something to make it kick in
- # [01:06] <pandeiro> nope
- # [01:06] <pandeiro> maybe if i physically kick the computer?
- # [01:06] <BrianBlakely> haha :/
- # [01:07] <pandeiro> seriously between autofocus and autocomplete wtf good is html5
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- # [01:09] <hober> err
- # [01:10] <BrianBlakely> pandeiro: iframe might be a good workaround
- # [01:11] <pandeiro> faster to just write shit in javascript than try seeing if any of the shiny html5 stuff actually works in any/every browser
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- # [01:40] <suprraz> hello
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- # [02:36] <Pessimism> I am trying to make an accessible and standards-compliant forum that uses <textarea>, but I can't really find any good resources to go buy. Got any good links to some examples?
- # [02:37] <xonecas> paul_irish: I think you might have a laugh with this: http://xonecas.com/creativejs-threejs-part1/
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- # [02:43] <paul_irish> xonecas: niciiice
- # [02:43] <paul_irish> fuckin stars bro
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- # [02:45] <xonecas> ahah
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- # [02:46] <xonecas> Pessimism: can you re phrase your question?!
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- # [02:47] <Pessimism> I want to use a <textarea> element for my project, but all the guides and books talk about <input type="text">. I'd just like some basic, good articles on using <textarea> or at least some examples that use it.
- # [02:48] <Pessimism> It's like an ugly step child that's been confined to live in a basement for 20 years.
- # [02:48] <xonecas> have you looked for the textarea entry in the mdc? (mozilla developers center)
- # [02:48] <Pessimism> Nope
- # [02:48] <Pessimism> Googled and checked ALA and Smashing Mag
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- # [02:49] <xonecas> not really, a step child, it's just that you can do almost the same things to a textarea as you would with a text input (to an extent)
- # [02:49] <xonecas> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/textarea
- # [02:49] <xonecas> this should give more info
- # [02:49] <xonecas> :-)
- # [02:50] <Pessimism> I feel so guilty when I define the rows and columns in the HTML instead of the CSS
- # [02:51] <Pessimism> It's like Jerrey Zeldman is watching me or something.
- # [02:51] <Pessimism> *Jeffrey
- # [02:51] <xonecas> you define width and length in css, not rows and cols :-P
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- # [02:52] <xonecas> as far as I know unless you need a fixed col/row textarea you should use css, because at that point they become visual rules
- # [02:53] <xonecas> Did that article help?
- # [02:53] <Pessimism> Nothing I hadn't really read, no.
- # [02:54] <Pessimism> When I try to edit the type="text" for a bigger height, I just get a text box that is centred on the middle
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- # [02:54] <Pessimism> Maybe my CSS is off
- # [02:54] <Pessimism> At least with <textarea>, my text starts at the top
- # [02:54] <xonecas> input[type=text] { height: 1.2em }
- # [02:54] <xonecas> or you can use padding to keep the text in the middle
- # [02:55] <xonecas> you can style a textarea to look exactly like an input, if you need a multiple line input
- # [02:56] <Pessimism> That CSS creates the same problem
- # [02:56] <Pessimism> The text starts in the middle
- # [02:56] <Pessimism> At least in Opera
- # [02:56] <Pessimism> And I can't press Enter
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- # [02:56] <Pessimism> (Without submitting)
- # [02:57] <xonecas> you can get around the enter submiting the form with some javascript, explain text starts in the middle?
- # [02:58] <BrianBlakely> text-align: center?
- # [02:58] <BrianBlakely> Is that happening?
- # [02:58] <xonecas> I have no idea.. Pessimism can you show the code?
- # [02:59] <Pessimism> *uploading to imgur, hold on, chaps*
- # [02:59] <Pessimism> [URL=http://imgur.com/7WUHZ][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7WUHZ.png[/IMG][/URL]
- # [02:59] <Pessimism> argh
- # [02:59] <Pessimism> http://imgur.com/7WUHZ
- # [03:00] <xonecas> do you have vertical-align: middle somewhere in there?
- # [03:00] <Pessimism> Nope
- # [03:00] <Pessimism> sec
- # [03:00] <Pessimism> Throwing the css on pastebin
- # [03:02] <Pessimism> http://pastebin.com/Z21Kbjmm
- # [03:02] <Pessimism> Think that's the relevant part
- # [03:02] <Pessimism> also have a reset css, come to mind
- # [03:02] <Pessimism> sec
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- # [03:03] <Pessimism> I have this weird part: " *vertical-align: middle; "
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- # [03:05] <Pessimism> I'll just disable it and see if anything changes. Otherwise, I'll check back tomorrow when it isn't 3 AM. :)
- # [03:05] <xonecas> http://jsfiddle.net/3PMv5/
- # [03:05] <xonecas> Pessimism: just replace the html input by a text area
- # [03:06] <xonecas> take a look at that fiddle, the image you showed on the imgur is the input with the 11.2em height
- # [03:06] <Pessimism> mm
- # [03:08] <Pessimism> Alright, thanks for taking a look at it
- # [03:08] <xonecas> happy to help
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- # [04:20] <jimi_hendrix> hi, at what point in the page loading process can i actually use a canvas? the canvas element that i retrieve with jquery during both the document load event and the document ready event does not have a getContext method. i am using chromium for testing
- # [04:26] <BrianBlakely> jimi_hendrix: Try placing your <script> after the <canvas>
- # [04:26] <jimi_hendrix> ok
- # [04:26] <Pomax> it should have .getContext the moment it's created. a <canvas id="lalala"></canvas><script type="text/javascript">document.getElementById('lalala').getContext("2d");</script> should work
- # [04:26] <BrianBlakely> jimi_hendrix: You can forego the load and ready events after that
- # [04:27] <BrianBlakely> jimi_hendrix: Also $('canvas').getContext('2d') won't work
- # [04:27] <jimi_hendrix> BrianBlakely, why not (i wasnt doing that, but i am curious)
- # [04:27] <Pomax> sets.
- # [04:27] <Pomax> $('canvas')[0].getContext('2d')
- # [04:28] <Pomax> the jquery result is an array of matched elements.
- # [04:28] <BrianBlakely> jimi_hendrix: What Pomax said
- # [04:28] <Pomax> so for calling non-jquery functions you need to select an actual element
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- # [04:28] <BrianBlakely> jimi_hendrix: Just don't use jQuery, if you can avoid it
- # [04:28] <BrianBlakely> Its utility is drastically decreased in an HTML5 world
- # [04:29] <jimi_hendrix> alright
- # [04:29] <jimi_hendrix> as you can tell, i dont do much web dev :P
- # [04:30] <BrianBlakely> jimi_hendrix: Don't feel bad; jQuery syntax is super-approachable compared to vanilla JavaScript's, but it can do more harm than good in many circumstances
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- # [04:40] <tw2113> jquery ruined my social life
- # [04:40] <tw2113> wait, i never had one
- # [04:40] <tw2113> disregard
- # [04:41] <BrianBlakely> I'm out
- # [04:41] <BrianBlakely> Laytahz
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- # [04:41] <Pomax> really wish I'd heard about the HP touchpad firesale *before* stores closed here
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- # [04:45] <BrianBlakely> Pomax: A billion online sales - http://www.amazon.com/HP-TouchPad-9-7-Inch-Tablet-Computer/dp/B0055D67HW/ref=sr_1_3?t=slickdeals&tag=slickdeals&s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1313801082%20&sr=1-3
- # [04:45] <Pomax> yes. 1 guess how many are still available
- # [04:46] <BrianBlakely> Need. sleep. Nighty night!
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- # [04:51] <jimi_hendrix> anyway, thanks guys, my canvas is now working
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- # [04:59] <paul_irish> \o/
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- # [05:13] <tw2113> var paul_irish = rocker;
- # [05:14] <paul_irish> you be missin quotes bro
- # [05:14] <paul_irish> unless this is more like a
- # [05:14] <paul_irish> var paul_irish = new Rocker();
- # [05:14] <paul_irish> -type setup
- # [05:14] <tw2113> see how much i know js?
- # [05:15] <tw2113> but yes, quotes are missing
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- # [05:20] <tw2113> were you ever a prowrestling fan paul_irish ?
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- # [06:12] <luchenbill> can anyone help me out with this html5 warning? Using experimental feature: HTML5 Conformance Checker.
- # [06:12] <luchenbill> it's the only thing that is happening when I do my validation
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- # [06:50] <danbeam> niftylettuce: but it's free to use
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- # [07:37] <Narcarsiss> hello, has onyone managed to get +1 (google plus button) to work/show up in html5?
- # [07:38] <paul_irish> yes
- # [07:39] <tw2113> not sure why it'd be difficult
- # [07:39] <Narcarsiss> well i copy past code into my site and vwalla nothing to show up
- # [07:39] <paul_irish> ur doin it wrong
- # [07:39] <Narcarsiss> must be
- # [07:40] <Narcarsiss> i tried 3 diff ways but still i cant get it to work :(
- # [07:40] <tw2113> sounds like html in general is failed, not html5
- # [07:40] <nimbupani> ?paste @ Narcarsiss
- # [07:40] <tw2113> no offense
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- # [07:43] <Narcarsiss> you know the really strange part
- # [07:43] <Narcarsiss> http://jsfiddle.net/RPdUX/ it works
- # [07:43] <nimbupani> oops no botty
- # [07:43] <Narcarsiss> but in chrome it does not :(
- # [07:44] <kyxzme> what is chrome?
- # [07:44] <Narcarsiss> browser
- # [07:44] <nimbupani> hahaha
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- # [07:44] <kyxzme> what is browser?
- # [07:45] * tw2113 misses the bot already
- # [07:47] <Narcarsiss> seriously this is annoying, anyone spot a problem with it?
- # [07:49] <kyxzme> naquad_:
- # [07:49] <kyxzme> Narcarsiss:
- # [07:49] <kyxzme> this is what i see from firefox
- # [07:49] <kyxzme> http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5791/schermatae.png
- # [07:49] <kyxzme> firefox 6.0*
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- # [07:50] <kyxzme> mh
- # [07:50] <kyxzme> dunno?
- # [07:51] <Narcarsiss> sure your on 6?
- # [07:51] <kyxzme> yep
- # [07:51] <tw2113> ooh redhat
- # [07:52] <kyxzme> ohhh tw2113 ! :D
- # [07:53] <tw2113> i don't even see a gradient bg with opera
- # [07:53] <Narcarsiss> i didnt add support for opera :P
- # [07:53] <tw2113> no one does *forever alone*
- # [07:53] <Narcarsiss> i will but maybe when site is done and i clean it up
- # [07:54] <tw2113> i tried hitting +1 in the jsfiddle but it turned to a red !
- # [07:54] <Narcarsiss> still adding IE support *insert rant here*
- # [07:54] <kyxzme> tw2113: maybe you'll be lucky
- # [07:54] <Narcarsiss> yeah i got that problem too :(
- # [07:55] <kyxzme> he's trying to add support for chrome and firefox unsuccessfully, but maybe it will work at least on opera :D
- # [07:55] <kyxzme> :flame: okok sorry Narcarsiss :D
- # [07:56] <Narcarsiss> thats fine i was just doing chrome so i can see what it looks like then i need to go to http://css3please.com/ and add the rest of the bloody support or uni will take my hd away :(
- # [07:56] <tw2113> for all i know, the issue is JS based
- # [07:57] <Narcarsiss> i learn js next week, bit worried about that
- # [07:58] <kyxzme> Narcarsiss: JS is like a christian
- # [07:58] <kyxzme> it looks sweet
- # [07:58] <kyxzme> but is hiding a killer within himself
- # [07:58] <kyxzme> always check anything server-side, dont forget
- # [07:58] <Narcarsiss> in js
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- # [07:59] <Narcarsiss> **note added check client side and server side js.
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- # [08:08] <Narcarsiss> anyone here australian?
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- # [08:11] <Narcarsiss> seem that it is a JS error im getting null in forebug?
- # [08:12] <kyxzme> im italian
- # [08:13] <Narcarsiss> :O the home as beautifull cars
- # [08:13] <kyxzme> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcI2IdHhEHE
- # [08:13] <Narcarsiss> *as = of
- # [08:13] <kyxzme> yep! man ! :D
- # [08:14] <Narcarsiss> oneday i will travel just to test drive a ferrari. and eat so bloody PASTA!
- # [08:14] <kyxzme> gh Pizza! :D
- # [08:15] <kyxzme> I'm from southern italy, from a town called "Napoli"
- # [08:15] <kyxzme> the Pizza's house !
- # [08:15] <Narcarsiss> real pizza? not pizahut or dominoes?
- # [08:15] <kyxzme> the first pizza has been cooked in naples
- # [08:16] <kyxzme> the "Margherita"
- # [08:16] * Narcarsiss now has a craving...
- # [08:17] <kyxzme> would you like to see where i am?
- # [08:17] <dr0id> why are you lookin for aussies ?
- # [08:17] <dr0id> yes
- # [08:17] <Narcarsiss> hey dr0id, i was going to sugest watching the movie red dog.
- # [08:17] <kyxzme> http://www.partecipiamo.it/Turismo/Napoli/immagini/Napoli_Pozzuoli.jpg
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- # [08:17] <kyxzme> http://www.porto.napoli.it/img/immagineSubHome.jpg
- # [08:17] <dr0id> Narcarsiss: heh, wats so special ?
- # [08:17] <kyxzme> http://www.feedelissimo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/81ffc496e4Napoli.jpg.jpg
- # [08:18] <Narcarsiss> it's just a good aussie film,
- # [08:18] <tw2113> what? No Young Einstein, Narcarsiss ?
- # [08:18] <Narcarsiss> http://www.porto.napoli.it/img/immagineSubHome.jpg i have been to that dock in my ship
- # [08:18] <dr0id> "my" ship ? :O
- # [08:19] <Narcarsiss> simulator :P
- # [08:19] <dr0id> lol
- # [08:19] <dr0id> kyxzme: beauty bro
- # [08:19] <kyxzme> agree! :D
- # [08:19] <Narcarsiss> how epic is that casle
- # [08:19] <Narcarsiss> and the fishing must be amazing
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- # [08:20] <kyxzme> that's a castle which comes from spanish king who we had here in southern italy
- # [08:20] <kyxzme> Narcarsiss: ehm... not so sure.. the sea is not like the sea you have in australia
- # [08:21] <kyxzme> there's lots of patrol in our sea
- # [08:21] <Narcarsiss> well that sure sucks
- # [08:21] <kyxzme> yep
- # [08:21] <kyxzme> i agree
- # [08:21] <Narcarsiss> such beautifull beach from sky
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- # [08:22] <kyxzme> here in italy we have lots of beautiful places, but our governments are disorganized compared for example to the australian governments
- # [08:22] <kyxzme> so, our nice things, sucks..
- # [08:22] <Narcarsiss> well, yeah i herd on tv it's not so great
- # [08:23] <kyxzme> from what town of australia do you come from?
- # [08:24] <Narcarsiss> Hobart, Tasmania
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- # [08:24] <kyxzme> oh
- # [08:24] <kyxzme> have you ever seen a devil of tasmania?
- # [08:24] <Narcarsiss> little island with great fishing and bad beaches
- # [08:24] <Narcarsiss> yeah, i use to rear them
- # [08:24] <Narcarsiss> *raise
- # [08:25] <kyxzme> i saw some videos of them on yt
- # [08:25] <kyxzme> it looks so sweeet :D
- # [08:25] <Narcarsiss> their dying :(
- # [08:25] <kyxzme> really? why?
- # [08:25] <Narcarsiss> face tumors
- # [08:25] <Narcarsiss> http://www.dpiw.tas.gov.au/inter.nsf/webpages/lbun-5qf86g
- # [08:27] <kyxzme> oh..
- # [08:27] <Narcarsiss> yeah it's really bad, tv dont show the bad stuff
- # [08:28] <kyxzme> its so sad, isnt there a way to raise a world campaign to collect money to save them?
- # [08:29] <Narcarsiss> they are and they are triling new drugs, with 1 almost working
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- # [08:30] <kyxzme> hope they'll be ok soon
- # [08:32] <Narcarsiss> so do we.
- # [08:32] <Narcarsiss> so many tourist get bitten by them
- # [08:33] <Narcarsiss> think their cure and go near them and they get attacked it's funny reading about it
- # [08:33] <Narcarsiss> *cute
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- # [08:34] <kyxzme> lol i saw on yt
- # [08:34] <kyxzme> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK6v6kEWlm8&feature=related
- # [08:34] <kyxzme> look at him :D
- # [08:36] <Narcarsiss> Ahahahah
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- # [08:40] <Narcarsiss> ok so +1 is bullS**T
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- # [08:40] <kyxzme> Narcarsiss: not so sure
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- # [08:40] <kyxzme> As I read around the web , it's important to let google see your site is considered useful for the users
- # [08:41] <Narcarsiss> i just want it cause it looks pretty
- # [08:42] <tw2113> they need to release a good api
- # [08:42] <Narcarsiss> yeah like twitters
- # [08:42] <kyxzme> that's still so young for the api
- # [08:43] <tw2113> it's the google
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- # [09:02] <niftylettuce> what the eff, <audio> is s***, no?
- # [09:02] <niftylettuce> ff and chrome get big X's or Resource interpreted as Document
- # [09:03] <niftylettuce> then it like disables the audio player in FF
- # [09:03] <niftylettuce> where is grantg when you need em
- # [09:05] <tw2113> preparing for senior year of HS?
- # [09:05] <tw2113> or maybe he's out already, i know he's quite young
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- # [09:22] <Narcarsiss> http://everythingillegal.com.au/Storage/test.jpg >opinions?
- # [09:22] <Narcarsiss> footer not finished.
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- # [09:41] <OzDave_mbp> If you had to wrap the design into a genre word what would it be?
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- # [09:54] <Narcarsiss> blog
- # [09:54] <Narcarsiss> kinda
- # [09:54] <Narcarsiss> index?
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- # [09:56] <OzDave_mbp> you need to go deeper to pull out the design, imagine a 50's metal spaceship toy with the key to wind it up
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- # [09:57] <OzDave_mbp> now imagine what that presents to the genre and flow those ideas into the design
- # [09:57] <OzDave_mbp> that is just one example of course
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- # [09:58] <OzDave_mbp> was captin spelt that way intentially?
- # [09:58] <OzDave_mbp> intentionally *
- # [09:58] <OzDave_mbp> You might want to use Cap'n or Captain
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- # [10:01] <Narcarsiss> just typed it out i have an image that goes in its place
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- # [10:09] <OzDave_mbp> do you have a colour palette as well to work from?
- # [10:09] <OzDave_mbp> perhaps design one or choose and and edit. you can also upload an image and gain one http://kuler.adobe.com/
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- # [11:00] <ivector> hi
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- # [11:05] <ivector> someone also tried to streaming using html5?
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- # [22:57] <jimi_hendrix> with canvas, is there a way to rotate a path i want to draw by a certain number of degrees?
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- # [23:15] <jimi_hendrix> nvm, found a method that does that
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The end :)