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  35. # [01:11] * moo-_- wonder which IRC client would ship with pimpslap alias by default
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  37. # [01:13] <tw2113> it'd be easy to add it to your user commands
  38. # [01:13] * tw2113 hits moo-_- with a frying pan
  39. # [01:13] <tw2113> for example
  40. # [01:13] <tw2113> all i did was type /pan and your ID
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  43. # [01:18] <cgcardona> tw2113: damn
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  45. # [01:18] <tw2113> heh, cgcardona it looks like you predicted thatryan coming in :P
  46. # [01:19] <thatryan> ?
  47. # [01:19] <tw2113> [06:13pm] <cgcardona> tw2113: damn
  48. # [01:19] <tw2113> [06:13pm] ---ยป thatryan (~thatryan@c-71-202-3-49.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has Joined #html5
  49. # [01:19] <thatryan> lol
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  69. # [01:45] <hughfdjackson> mornin
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  71. # [01:46] <hughfdjackson> i've been thinking recently about how to lower the barrier to entry on an animation/game tool i have in the works
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  73. # [01:46] <hughfdjackson> since i want graphic designers + game designers of less technical ability to be able to use it
  74. # [01:47] <hughfdjackson> an app of this nature would essentially amount to a folder with a specific file structure
  75. # [01:47] <hughfdjackson> the tool itself is a web-app, albeit one stored locally
  76. # [01:47] <hughfdjackson> probably as a chrome extension
  77. # [01:47] <hughfdjackson> sooo i know i can use the awesome html5 file API to create a sandboxed file structure
  78. # [01:47] <hughfdjackson> and i know i can't modify unsandboxed local files
  79. # [01:48] <hughfdjackson> my question is how to get the localhosted file structure onto a server when it comes time to publish with the minimum effort in behalf of the developer
  80. # [01:48] <hughfdjackson> preferably just slinging a folder onto a server using ftp
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  82. # [01:49] <hughfdjackson> that assumes i can get access to the folder though.. any idea how i could let the user download the whole folder?
  83. # [01:49] <hughfdjackson> :D feel free to come at me with any toher suggestions
  84. # [01:49] * hughfdjackson takes a breath
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  91. # [01:55] <hughfdjackson> whoawhoawhoa, calm down peeps. I didn't expect such a rush ;)
  92. # [01:56] <grantg> TL;DR
  93. # [01:57] <hughfdjackson> :P how do you get folders out of a filesystem created with htm,l5 file API
  94. # [01:57] <hughfdjackson> *html5
  95. # [01:57] <grantg> get a file dialog to show
  96. # [01:57] <grantg> and have the event captured
  97. # [01:57] <grantg> just look up some file api tutorials
  98. # [01:57] <grantg> specifically on FileReader
  99. # [01:59] <hughfdjackson> not entirely sure we're on the same page
  100. # [01:59] <grantg> oh
  101. # [01:59] * LuigiMontanez_ is now known as LuigiMontanez
  102. # [01:59] <grantg> you want more than just loading in a file
  103. # [01:59] <hughfdjackson> i'm talking about retrieving files created and saved using the sandboxed directory system
  104. # [01:59] <hughfdjackson> as a folder
  105. # [02:00] <hughfdjackson> i.e. created with window.requestfilesystem
  106. # [02:00] <grantg> yeah, sorry I only skimmed the TL;DR. xD
  107. # [02:00] <hughfdjackson> hehe ;)
  108. # [02:00] <hughfdjackson> it was tl, so it's understandable that you dr :D
  109. # [02:01] <grantg> my thing is that I like base64'ing stuff stored in js
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  111. # [02:01] <grantg> for data transfers
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  113. # [02:02] <hughfdjackson> i'm not sure i follow :$ to reduce size over the wire?
  114. # [02:02] <grantg> for single file transfers
  115. # [02:02] <hughfdjackson> from client -> server?
  116. # [02:02] <grantg> IE hates binary transfers via ajax
  117. # [02:03] <hughfdjackson> for this one usecase, i can get away with chrome-only
  118. # [02:03] <hughfdjackson> which will make my life a lot easier
  119. # [02:06] <grantg> not sure
  120. # [02:06] <grantg> for sending the virtual file system you might need to make your own serialization method.
  121. # [02:06] <grantg> wait, you want to send folders, or just create ones internally?
  122. # [02:06] <grantg> I'm TL;DR skimming again. :/
  123. # [02:06] <hughfdjackson> hehe
  124. # [02:07] <grantg> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/file/filesystem/
  125. # [02:07] <hughfdjackson> i want the user to be able to hit 'download bundle' and get the folder
  126. # [02:07] <grantg> I guess your questions should be answered there
  127. # [02:07] <hughfdjackson> or maybe a zipped verison of it, if i have to implement that >.>
  128. # [02:07] <grantg> you might need to manually rebuild the file system as an array or object to be JSON'd
  129. # [02:08] <grantg> oh, to have the user dl it is another thing
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  131. # [02:08] <grantg> zip libs are around
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  135. # [02:10] <hughfdjackson> *strokes chin*
  136. # [02:11] * grantg *goes back to the innernett
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  138. # [02:11] <hughfdjackson> thanks for your help mate :)
  139. # [02:11] <hughfdjackson> oh, and that link was what i was looking at ;)
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  241. # [07:40] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: o em gee almost done
  242. # [07:40] <paul_irish> hto
  243. # [07:40] <paul_irish> HOTT
  244. # [07:40] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: just waiting on 8 bit mp3s
  245. # [07:40] <niftylettuce> :)
  246. # [07:40] <niftylettuce> its legit, i had to write custom for each... talk about combinations LOL
  247. # [07:41] <niftylettuce> got some deep house on and crankin out this arcade masterpiece
  248. # [07:41] <niftylettuce> also ran code through JSHint so its perffedddd with a few fallbacks
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  301. # [11:59] <Fabryz> anyone knows a 2d tilemap editor? that gives out a matrix filled with numbers regarding a tile id
  302. # [11:59] <Fabryz> or
  303. # [11:59] <Fabryz> hah, I'll maybe do it myself
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  305. # [12:05] <jetienne> Fabryz: there are many. ask on #gamedev or #bbg they will give you names
  306. # [12:05] <Fabryz> thanks
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  315. # [12:13] <jetienne> Fabryz: im guessing this is a user registration thing. ask on #freenode
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  406. # [15:39] <andrewjbaker> New Steppe demo's live! It seems HTML5 2D canvas is fast enough on Chrome (at least) to support raycast landscapes. Real-time Mars demo here... http://steppe.fleetingfantasy.com/ All feedback welcomed. ;-)
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  414. # [15:50] <Bassie> Hello there folks, is anyone here active?
  415. # [15:53] * andrewjbaker is here.^^
  416. # [15:53] <Bassie> Great, so I have a question which I couldn't find much about with google.
  417. # [15:53] <Bassie> How would I go about setting an image created with html5 canvas as the background of a div
  418. # [15:55] <andrewjbaker> I think it's getCSSCanvasContext().
  419. # [15:56] <andrewjbaker> Bassie, http://www.webkit.org/blog/176/css-canvas-drawing/
  420. # [15:57] <Bassie> Yes I found that same link after doing a search for what you just said, but this looks like a webkit only feature.
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  424. # [16:02] <andrewjbaker> Bassie, check thru' this thread dude, there might be something of relevance... http://www.mail-archive.com/whatwg@lists.whatwg.org/msg24140.html
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  426. # [16:03] <andrewjbaker> Like, for example... http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/08/mozelement/
  427. # [16:03] <Bassie> Thank you for your help, I've read some links and articles but no luck yet. Now reading the one you linked to.
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  429. # [16:05] <Bassie> Well that unfortunatly only works on firefox.
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  431. # [16:06] <andrewjbaker> Bassie, I'd put money on you not finding a one-size fits all solution, just yet.
  432. # [16:07] <Bassie> I know, currently I could use
  433. # [16:07] <Bassie> background: -moz-element(#canvas);
  434. # [16:07] <Bassie> background: -webkit-canvas(canvas);
  435. # [16:07] <Bassie> for firefox and safari
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  440. # [16:16] <Bassie> Well thank you for the effort and help andrewjbaker
  441. # [16:16] <Bassie> Goodbye!
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  504. # [18:57] <paul_irish> andrewjbaker: you can also canvas.toDataURL() that and then just set a elem.style.background = 'url(' + thing + ') repeat ......
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  520. # [19:22] <tw2113> anyone else think that marketing things on facebook is broken by the fact that people don't visit their facebook profile to get marketed to? They want to post status updates and talk with friends
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  534. # [19:58] <andrewjbaker> paul_irish, ah... good to know. toDataURL() methods feels clunky tho'... ;-)
  535. # [19:58] <paul_irish> ha
  536. # [19:58] <paul_irish> well. many many people do it.
  537. # [19:58] <andrewjbaker> LOL, what? Use clunky methods?^^
  538. # [19:59] <paul_irish> use toDataURL and use the result as an img src or w/e
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  542. # [20:03] <andrewjbaker> paul_irish, oh, I made use of your requestAnimFrame() shim dude. Many thx.
  543. # [20:03] <paul_irish> dope
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  546. # [20:05] <moo-_-> should canvas to canvas drawImage happen directly in video memory?
  547. # [20:05] <moo-_-> generally speaking
  548. # [20:05] <moo-_-> or what browsers would do it
  549. # [20:05] <moo-_-> which
  550. # [20:06] * moo-_- less coffee
  551. # [20:06] <moo-_-> I am planning do create JS demo
  552. # [20:06] <moo-_-> which would use several canvas backbuffers
  553. # [20:06] <moo-_-> that's why asking
  554. # [20:07] <paul_irish> directly in video memory instead of?
  555. # [20:07] <andrewjbaker> Main memory.
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  557. # [20:08] <paul_irish> moo-_-: does it matter?
  558. # [20:08] <moo-_-> speed
  559. # [20:08] <moo-_-> vmem to vmem is faster several magnitudes
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  561. # [20:10] <paul_irish> o
  562. # [20:10] <paul_irish> write a jsperf to test it out
  563. # [20:10] <paul_irish> and see how fast they all are
  564. # [20:10] <andrewjbaker> And, in related news: http://jsperf.com/unrolledtest I wonder how much Steppe would benefit from a spot of loop unrolling...? Firefox users would likely rejoice. /me hopes Firefox gets improved JS performance soon.
  565. # [20:11] <paul_irish> loop unrolling is almost certainly the king of all premature optimization
  566. # [20:12] <andrewjbaker> I think I've done enough optimisation for loop unrolling not to be considered premature.^^
  567. # [20:13] <moo-_-> paul_irish: need to do it
  568. # [20:13] <moo-_-> I was just fishing out if someone had done it before :I
  569. # [20:16] <paul_irish> dunno
  570. # [20:16] <paul_irish> you see that canvas perf article that just went up?
  571. # [20:16] <paul_irish> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/canvas/performance/
  572. # [20:17] <andrewjbaker> Yeah, already doing most of it. :-(
  573. # [20:17] <moo-_-> paul_irish: new o me. thx.
  574. # [20:17] <paul_irish> :)
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  576. # [20:18] <paul_irish> nimbu: these results are dynamic so the perf' sjust need to be run on opera
  577. # [20:18] <paul_irish> fwiw
  578. # [20:19] <moo-_-> paul_irish: actually the article has it
  579. # [20:19] <moo-_-> calls "pre-render"
  580. # [20:19] <paul_irish> neat
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  582. # [20:19] <moo-_-> which is kind of stupid webby name for back buffers or double buffering
  583. # [20:21] <paul_irish> ++
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  586. # [20:25] <andrewjbaker> I don't see any talk of whether those writes occur vmem to vmem tho'. :-s
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  591. # [20:35] <nimbu> paul_irish: o i c
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  598. # [21:03] <paul_irish> http://www.paulbrunt.co.uk/lab/paintedsky/
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  600. # [21:06] <paul_irish> http://www.glge.org/demos/steep/
  601. # [21:14] <chrisbuchholz> what build tool do you guys use for your websites and webapps?
  602. # [21:15] <tw2113> wordpress?
  603. # [21:16] <tw2113> guess i can't claim too many tools, but i don't do a huge amount of advanced stuff
  604. # [21:20] <chrisbuchholz> ;)
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  671. # [23:53] <estellevw> In the editors draft, <svg> is listed as a phrasing content element.
  672. # [23:54] <estellevw> <svg> is listed at http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#svg
  673. # [23:54] <estellevw> when discussing elements in html5, has <svg> been added or not?
  674. # [23:55] <shepazu> estellevw: my understanding is that <svg> has been added, but that none of the other elements of SVG are
  675. # [23:56] <shepazu> so, <svg> is an element that triggers special rules for the content, which is defined by the SVG spec
  676. # [23:57] <estellevw> I don't see <svg> listed here: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/elements.html#elements
  677. # [23:57] <shepazu> interesting.
  678. # [23:57] <shepazu> file a bug?
  679. # [23:58] <estellevw> but that was last updated in may
  680. # [23:58] <estellevw> and the most recent draft of July 11 doesn't have it either
  681. # [23:58] <estellevw> will file a bug. thanks
  682. # Session Close: Mon Aug 22 00:00:00 2011

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