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  44. # [01:00] <chrisdev> when writing a single-page HTML5 app, whats the preferred way to pull in HTML snippets?
  45. # [01:01] <chrisdev> ah I think .load is what im looking for
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  58. # [01:22] <BrianBlakely> chrisdev: Watch out for IE<9, they will choke on new HTML5 elements when you pull them in dynamically
  59. # [01:23] <BrianBlakely> chrisdev: There is a shim for that, but I find it to be less than elegant
  60. # [01:23] <chrisdev> BrianBlakely: Tanks for heads up
  61. # [01:25] <BrianBlakely> chrisdev: Gladly!
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  101. # [02:09] <ben_h> sup bros
  102. # [02:10] <ben_h> oops, wrong channel
  103. # [02:10] <ben_h> but still, sup?
  104. # [02:10] <benv> paul_irish: a complete book on the file system api
  105. # [02:10] <benv> O_o
  106. # [02:10] <benv> 74 pages
  107. # [02:11] <benv> *assumes author is in here and hides*
  108. # [02:11] <CoverSlide> sounds reasonable
  109. # [02:11] <daleharvey> what in the hell does <script type="text/javascript" src="https://apis.google.com/js/plusone.js"> {lang: 'en-GB'} </script> do?
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  120. # [02:27] <paul_irish> daleharvey: a browser requests that script and ignores whats inside it
  121. # [02:28] <paul_irish> but the script itself pulls querySelectorAll('script$=plusone.js')[0].innerHTML and JSON.parse()s that shit
  122. # [02:28] <paul_irish> benv: he's not in here but he's next to me :p
  123. # [02:28] <daleharvey> yeh then the script fetches the contents of the last script tags and uses it as parameters, I completely forgot that I had done it before
  124. # [02:29] <paul_irish> ?g ejohn degrading script tags
  125. # [02:29] <bot-t> paul_irish, John Resig - Degrading Script Tags - http://ejohn.org/blog/degrading-script-tags/
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  133. # [02:37] <benv> paul_irish: i had a snarky comment about how they're turning cookbook chapters into complete books
  134. # [02:38] <benv> but i didn't really have a point to make
  135. # [02:38] <benv> :)
  136. # [02:38] <monteslu> why can't i play with accelerometers on android?
  137. # [02:40] <monteslu> it was promised for froyo at io2010, but as far as I can tell still doesnt work on honeycomb 3.1
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  139. # [02:40] <monteslu> i don't want to use phonegap just for htis
  140. # [02:40] <monteslu> this
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  143. # [02:47] <paul_irish> monteslu: i think you'll have to
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  146. # [02:50] <monteslu> paul_irish, seems that FF doesn't even have it
  147. # [02:51] <monteslu> hoping that i'll wakeup and my phone will have a market update where android browser gets fast canvas, webgl, camera access, and accelerometer :)
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  150. # [02:51] <daleharvey> bleh @ jquery deffereds
  151. # [02:51] <daleharvey> if (args.length === 1) { arguments = [arguments]; }
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  167. # [03:40] <grantg> (╯°□°)╯︵ ıdɐ ǝɔuɐɯɹoɟɹǝd sظ
  168. # [03:40] <nimbu> :)
  169. # [03:40] <paul_irish> :D
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  173. # [03:51] <grantg> oh god, sheeple raging on about some small earthquake today on twitter. <_<
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  194. # [04:38] <tw2113> *facepalm* http://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/jseim/ive_tried_placing_a_javascript_application_on_my/
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  200. # [04:50] <grantg> It's funny because some people *need* to use these php frameworks for shit simple websites that don't even need it. <_<
  201. # [04:52] <tw2113> i keep trexthepirate.com relatively free of WordPress
  202. # [04:53] <tw2113> at least regarding pages that make links from the root domain
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  204. # [04:54] <grantg> heh
  205. # [04:54] <grantg> chrome pushed web audio to stable
  206. # [04:54] <grantg> WITH the critical audio trashing bugs. :/
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  233. # [06:24] <aaairc> is it bad to have html attributes with lots of text? like 5 paragraphs of text?
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  239. # [06:38] <nimbu> definitely
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  247. # [07:00] <wookiehangover> ahhh why does apple-mobile-web-app-capable fuck with cookies?!?
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  280. # [08:25] <djazz> can I show only integers and not decimal numbers with <input type=number> or I must use javascript oninput check to remove the decimal part?
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  366. # [11:25] <mbrevda_> what language are npapi plugins written in? From a bit of searching, the only options I've seen are c/c++
  367. # [11:25] <mbrevda_> are there any options for programers of non-compiled languages?
  368. # [11:26] <Vivid_> W3C validator is giving me an error for this structure <ul><a><li></li></a></ul>, should I be concerned?
  369. # [11:27] <NoNoNo> Vivid_: yep
  370. # [11:27] <NoNoNo> Vivid_: UL may only have LI as child
  371. # [11:28] <Vivid_> it's for this site... http://corranraa.co.uk. It's in the <nav>, is there a better way?
  372. # [11:29] <NoNoNo> Vivid_: Yes: <ul><li><a></a></li></ul>
  373. # [11:29] <Trisox> yup
  374. # [11:29] <Vivid_> and change the CSS to make the <a> block elements yeah?
  375. # [11:29] <NoNoNo> Vivid_: The other "way" is no way at all
  376. # [11:29] <Trisox> same as <option></option> may not contain any html tags
  377. # [11:30] <Vivid_> ok i'll try that out
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  413. # [13:56] <mokush> from a perf perspective, declare a large number of vars inside or outside loop?
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  419. # [14:09] <andrewjbaker> Yeah. I also think the guys over on #javascript would recommend you declare all your vars at the top of your functions.
  420. # [14:09] <andrewjbaker> A la C.
  421. # [14:10] <andrewjbaker> And... I also hear that combining var declarations makes parsing quicker too.
  422. # [14:10] <andrewjbaker> var i; var j; var k; becomes var i, j, k;
  423. # [14:10] <andrewjbaker> Madness.^^
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  425. # [14:11] <Ms2ger> Declaring vars at the top? I can see why, but it sounds like a Crockfordism you don't want to follow
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  427. # [14:12] <andrewjbaker> It is a Crockfordism, I guess. It's cos' of JS's scoping. Doesn't work like a lot of people imagine.
  428. # [14:14] <andrewjbaker> It's not like other curly-bracket languages where variable scope is restricted to block statements.
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  436. # [14:20] <michelem> hello folks
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  439. # [14:23] <michelem> I'm trying to display an image with a script next to it, similar to a billboard
  440. # [14:23] <michelem> I use "article > section > (img)" then "aside (text)" for this
  441. # [14:26] <michelem> without CSS, the text in "aside" is displayed UNDER the image. How can I make it aside? Also, I can't figure out the CSS selector for the "aside" text
  442. # [14:26] <michelem> any help with that?
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  444. # [14:26] <andrewjbaker> <aside> is for semantic use, isn't it?
  445. # [14:26] <andrewjbaker> You'll defo need to 'tweak' your CSS. Hmm...
  446. # [14:27] <NoNoNo> michelem: What about <FIGURE><FIGCAPTION>$TEXT</FIGCAPTION><IMG></FIGURE> ?
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  450. # [14:27] <michelem> didn't know about that tag. Beautiful.
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  452. # [14:28] <michelem> I was snooping into the markup of apple.com . Surprisingly, they make very little, sparse, and inconsistent use of HTML5
  453. # [14:29] <andrewjbaker> ^^
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  455. # [14:30] <michelem> I suppose it has to do with compatibility.
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  462. # [14:36] <michelem> is the "id" attribute supported for every element?
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  475. # [14:48] <moo-_-> michelem: I believe it is
  476. # [14:48] <moo-_-> michelem: what element could not support it?
  477. # [14:49] <michelem> just curious if I could use it to "pinpoint" elements from the CSS arbitrarily
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  483. # [15:12] <Vivid_> I have just W3Cvalidated this site but it's still crashing IE7 when going to the Bio page. Anyone know why?! http://corranraa.co.uk
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  498. # [15:37] <johnkpaul> Vivid_: have you tried removing some of the code and trying again
  499. # [15:37] <johnkpaul> to try to pin down the offending piece?
  500. # [15:37] <Vivid_> not really, good idea though
  501. # [15:38] <Vivid_> i'm using CSS PIE to get the drop shadows, would that cause it?
  502. # [15:38] <johnkpaul> Vivid_: I think it's one of the bestbut dumb ways to pinpoint a problem
  503. # [15:38] <johnkpaul> hm, is your htc coming from the same exact domain?
  504. # [15:38] <johnkpaul> the htc for PIE?
  505. # [15:38] <johnkpaul> and served up with the right content type?
  506. # [15:38] <Vivid_> yes
  507. # [15:39] <Vivid_> right content type? Not sure...
  508. # [15:39] <johnkpaul> ah ha!
  509. # [15:39] <johnkpaul> no it's not
  510. # [15:39] <johnkpaul> wget -S http://corranraa.co.uk/PIE.htc
  511. # [15:39] <johnkpaul> Content-Type: text/plain
  512. # [15:40] <johnkpaul> http://css3pie.com/documentation/known-issues/#content-type
  513. # [15:40] <Vivid_> can you explain? and how do I change to the correct type?
  514. # [15:40] <Vivid_> nice one...
  515. # [15:40] <Vivid_> brb. :o)
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  518. # [15:46] <Vivid_> I've added a .htaccess file, can you tell if that has fixed it?
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  521. # [15:47] <Vivid_> the .htaccess now includes "AddType text/x-component .htc"
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  523. # [15:54] <Vivid_> by the way what does wget -S do?
  524. # [15:54] <Velmont> Vivid_: Prolly gives you the request headers. --- You can also use HEAD url or as I like HEAD -Ss url (which also gives you redirects etc.)
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  526. # [15:55] <Vivid_> from Linux? Can you do that from Mac terminal or where you guys doing it?
  527. # [15:55] <Velmont> Vivid_: From Linux, yes.
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  529. # [15:56] <Vivid_> cool
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  533. # [15:57] <Velmont> odinho@tetra:~$ HEAD -S aoeu.com | HEAD http://aoeu.com --> 302 Found | HEAD http://www.aoeu.com/ --> 200 OK | Server: Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) | Content-Type: text/html
  534. # [15:57] <Velmont> etc
  535. # [15:58] <Velmont> (I used | as a substitute for newline to not spam :P )
  536. # [15:58] <Vivid_> can you try that on... wget -S http://corranraa.co.uk/PIE.htc for me?
  537. # [16:00] <Velmont> odinho@tetra:~$ HEAD -S http://corranraa.co.uk/PIE.htc | grep Content-Type
  538. # [16:00] <Velmont> Content-Type: text/x-component
  539. # [16:01] <Vivid_> awesome, thank you
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  546. # [16:12] <asdf_> balls
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  553. # [16:25] <marcocarag> yo miketaylr
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  555. # [16:25] <miketaylr> sup marcocarag
  556. # [16:26] <marcocarag> thanks for the preso last night
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  558. # [16:26] <miketaylr> heh, np
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  560. # [16:27] <sf2newbie> hello
  561. # [16:27] <sf2newbie> hello
  562. # [16:27] <sf2newbie> I have question regarding audio capturing with HTML5
  563. # [16:27] <sf2newbie> I just installed chrome 14 beta and as far as I know it is capabale of that
  564. # [16:28] <sf2newbie> does someone know where to start?
  565. # [16:29] <sf2newbie> I found the Speech Input API Specification of W3C ... is that the offical state of the art regarding audio recording via mic?
  566. # [16:30] <miketaylr> you're probably looking for http://www.w3.org/TR/capture-api/
  567. # [16:30] <miketaylr> no idea if chrome supports it or not tho
  568. # [16:30] <sf2newbie> sounds good
  569. # [16:31] <sf2newbie> thanks mike
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  619. # [17:54] <johnkpaul> Vivid_: Did that work? adding the correct content type
  620. # [17:55] <johnkpaul> sorry, I stepped away for a while
  621. # [17:55] <Vivid_> hi
  622. # [17:55] <Vivid_> I can't actually test IE7 here so I'm not sure!
  623. # [17:55] <johnkpaul> ooh :) I see
  624. # [17:55] <Vivid_> hope so, I'll find out soon asI 've asked someone to check
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  628. # [17:57] <Vivid_> you think that would be enough to crash a browser?
  629. # [17:57] <advocatusdiaboli> Is there a way to use google video or youtube to store videos for my own projects and embed those moving pictures in my own homepage design? While disabling the YouTube button, i e
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  634. # [18:03] <johnkpaul> Vivid_: Its just the only thing that I know wouldn't work
  635. # [18:03] <johnkpaul> http://css3pie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=109
  636. # [18:03] <johnkpaul> Vivid_: so it seems like it's possible
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  683. # [18:47] <pk1234> any good API for html5 localstorage/database
  684. # [18:49] <gf3> pk1234: http://www.html5rocks.com/en/features/storage
  685. # [18:50] <pk1234> great. gf3. thanks
  686. # [18:52] <advocatusdiaboli> Is there a way to use google video or youtube to store videos for my own projects and embed those moving pictures in my own homepage design? While disabling the YouTube button, i e
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  698. # [19:16] <BrianBlakely> Look out HTML5, WebAPI is swooping in to take the buzzword throne: http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/introducing-webapi/
  699. # [19:17] <tw2113> oh buzzwords
  700. # [19:19] <CoverSlide> what happened to the <device> tag?
  701. # [19:19] <BrianBlakely> CoverSlide: Dead, last I checked in
  702. # [19:19] <BrianBlakely> CoverSlide: Replaced with a JavaScript API
  703. # [19:19] * Frippe_ is now known as Frippe
  704. # [19:19] <CoverSlide> oh damn
  705. # [19:20] <BrianBlakely> But now Mozilla wants to revolutionize the game, thus pushing cross-engine webcam/mic support back another year >_<
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  709. # [19:22] <BrianBlakely> In any case, WebRTC looks really promising and will probably accelerate that part of the DAP spec..
  710. # [19:24] <CoverSlide> "WebRTC is a free, open project that enables web browsers with Real-Time Communications (RTC) capabilities via simple Javascript APIs. The WebRTC components have been optimized to best serve this purpose. "
  711. # [19:25] <CoverSlide> as soon as I read "WebRTC is a free, open", i thought to myself "Never gonna be in IE"
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  713. # [19:25] <tw2113> probably not
  714. # [19:26] <CoverSlide> but we can look forward to Microsoft.DirectX.Device.Webcam support !!!
  715. # [19:27] <BrianBlakely> Let the polyfills flow like blood!!
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  726. # [19:38] <tw2113> true blood?
  727. # [19:40] <advocatusdiaboli> when I came in the air went out?
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  731. # [19:47] * moo-_- has been watching true blood recently
  732. # [19:47] <moo-_-> it's like html5 of vampire series
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  735. # [19:51] <tw2113> i'm sad season 4 is already almost done
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  737. # [19:52] <CoverSlide> does sookie get with eric in the show?
  738. # [19:54] <tw2113> yes
  739. # [19:55] <CoverSlide> oh ok so i guess they do follow the books
  740. # [19:58] * moo-_- still season 1
  741. # [19:58] <CoverSlide> oh shit, sorry
  742. # [19:59] <CoverSlide> well, just to let you know bill doesn't get killed and reincarnated as a lobster
  743. # [19:59] * advocatusdiaboli wonders why people watch True Blood, when there is Lucy Hale and Mary-Louise Parker
  744. # [20:02] <tw2113> we watch true blood to satisfy our vampire thirst because we don't like choking on glitter
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  749. # [20:09] <moo-_-> color: true blood;
  750. # [20:09] <moo-_-> har har har
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  753. # [20:25] <advocatusdiaboli> What is the status pr aug 2011 on this concern: http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/05/embed-videos-in-your-web-pages-using-html5/
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  758. # [20:32] <glynch> Hi. Quick question for everyone: Is HTML5 video subject to the same-origin-policy restrictions by default?
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  766. # [20:46] <moo-_-> glynch: it shouldn't
  767. # [20:46] <moo-_-> it applies only if frame data is copied to canvas, canvas will be tainted
  768. # [20:46] <Ms2ger> Should, I guess
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  772. # [20:53] <glynch> moo-_-: interesting, thanks!
  773. # [20:53] * tw2113 has analytics that look like heartbeat monitors
  774. # [20:53] <moo-_-> I was thinking if video metadata is sensitive
  775. # [20:54] <moo-_-> and you can leak that
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  781. # [21:10] <BrianBlakely> <img> isn't constrained to same-origin, why should <video>?
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  812. # [22:03] <nimbu> bot-t: tell grantg internal opera build just landed support for image-rendering :)
  813. # [22:03] <bot-t> nimbu, Okay.
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  818. # [22:10] <mbrevda> is there any way to conditionally load a css sheet?
  819. # [22:11] <mbrevda> (kinda like how html5boilerpalte loads query conditionally)
  820. # [22:11] <nimbu> mbrevda: you can use yepnope
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  822. # [22:11] <nimbu> http://yepnopejs.com
  823. # [22:11] <nimbu> errr mbrevda modernizr comes with it by default in v 2.0
  824. # [22:12] <mbrevda> nimbu: I need something for css, not js
  825. # [22:12] <nimbu> mbrevda: yes it can load resources not just js
  826. # [22:12] <mbrevda> oops, it works with both
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  828. # [22:12] <mbrevda> how can it tell is the css was loaded?
  829. # [22:12] <peol> you can't, reliably
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  831. # [22:13] <mbrevda> then how do they do it (or claim to)?
  832. # [22:14] <peol> no idea, i know requirejs tried doing that but reverted the functionality because they couldn't find a reliable approach
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  834. # [22:14] <SlexAxton> ?sup
  835. # [22:14] <bot-t> Not much dude, jus’ hangin’ ’n’ chillin’
  836. # [22:15] <nimbu> mbrevda: ask SlexAxton
  837. # [22:15] <nimbu> or ralphholzmann actually
  838. # [22:15] <ralphholzmann> OR BOTH
  839. # [22:15] <nimbu> OR BOTH
  840. # [22:15] <SlexAxton> BOTH BOTH
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  842. # [22:16] <mbrevda> "In supporting browsers, we can see the length of the cssRules of the file go up"
  843. # [22:17] <peol> but does that really mean that my css was loaded? couldn't that be another css file?
  844. # [22:18] <mbrevda> no, the link element is the same object to which your url was set
  845. # [22:18] <mbrevda> also
  846. # [22:18] <mbrevda> "In browsers that allow the onload event on link tags, just use it"
  847. # [22:18] <SlexAxton> it's a best guess, for sure
  848. # [22:19] <SlexAxton> seems to be mostly good
  849. # [22:19] <SlexAxton> we're gonna tear it out, and make it a plugin, we think, though
  850. # [22:19] <SlexAxton> no one _usually_ cares
  851. # [22:19] <SlexAxton> we have unit tests
  852. # [22:19] <SlexAxton> that test style injection callbacks and stuff
  853. # [22:19] <mbrevda> SlexAxton == yepnope ?
  854. # [22:19] <peol> yeah, i agree 'bout that, just curious if you found a way i didn't know about :)
  855. # [22:19] <peol> he's the 'yep' in 'yepnope'
  856. # [22:19] <SlexAxton> mbrevda: me and ralphholzmann
  857. # [22:20] <mbrevda> peol: have a look at the code: https://github.com/SlexAxton/yepnope.js/blob/master/yepnope.js
  858. # [22:20] <nimbu> hahaha
  859. # [22:20] <mbrevda> line 120
  860. # [22:20] <mbrevda> ah
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  865. # [22:22] <mbrevda> peol: I guess the issue is that some browsers don't seem to support EITHER method...
  866. # [22:22] <mbrevda> "link.sheet.cssRules.length" in document.createElement('link'); "link.onload" in document.createElement('link')
  867. # [22:22] <peol> mbrevda: yeah, i've played around with it a bit myself, never thought of the cssRules approach though
  868. # [22:22] * mbrevda shigs
  869. # [22:23] <mbrevda> shame, I have the js libs loading from a can, and now I need to do the css localy
  870. # [22:23] <peol> but as stated, who really cares, the least you can do is actually make sure your files are there, and browsers load them so fast nowadays that you won't notice most of the time, except if it's a humungous file with loads of complex selectors
  871. # [22:24] <mbrevda> in that case the source won't matter
  872. # [22:24] <SlexAxton> well there's a third method there
  873. # [22:24] <mbrevda> the point is that the can files are "managed" - no need to think about them
  874. # [22:24] <SlexAxton> of trying to hit security warnings
  875. # [22:24] <ralphholzmann> mbrevda: we do provide a timeout incase neither method works
  876. # [22:25] <ralphholzmann> but our unit tests run quickly in the more recent version of all major browsers
  877. # [22:25] <SlexAxton> the timeout is more for someone else's problems
  878. # [22:25] <SlexAxton> not ours
  879. # [22:25] <mbrevda> without looking to deeply, it seems to use some of the code was calling internal stuff - nothing that I can rip out easily
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  881. # [22:25] <SlexAxton> a link object won't throw a security error until it's actually loaded
  882. # [22:25] <ralphholzmann> probably in the poll() function
  883. # [22:25] <SlexAxton> so in the non supporting browsers we can detect that too
  884. # [22:26] <SlexAxton> mbrevda: if you're looking to rip it out, you might check out the css plugin in require, written by john hann
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  886. # [22:26] <SlexAxton> ?g unscriptable css require plugin
  887. # [22:26] <bot-t> SlexAxton, unscriptable/cssx - GitHub - https://github.com/unscriptable/cssx
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  899. # [22:49] <Vivid_> this webste I coded is crashing people's browsers (IE7), I can't test it from here but someone told me they're getting an error message saying that it wants to run a program from the web outside protected mode. Anyone know what the problem is? It sounds pretty bizarre to me and I can't figure out why. Here's the URL http://corranraa.co.uk
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  904. # [22:53] <timmywil> Vivid_: try using the git version of jquery
  905. # [22:54] <timmywil> just curious
  906. # [22:54] <Vivid_> okay, why?
  907. # [22:55] <timmywil> the support module was rewritten to create a fake body to run support tests before document ready. There was a bug that caused IE to crash if you had a background on html or body.
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  909. # [22:55] <timmywil> that site has one on html
  910. # [22:55] <timmywil> so i'm guessing that is the problem
  911. # [22:56] <Vivid_> oh rea;;y
  912. # [22:56] <Vivid_> oh really? interesting, any idea what the git url is, I can't seem to find it
  913. # [22:57] <timmywil> Vivid_: http://code.jquery.com/jquery-git.js
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  915. # [22:57] <timmywil> If that is the problem, you could downgrade, but I'd like to verify the problem is fixed for 1.6.3.
  916. # [22:59] <Vivid_> ok I've switched it up timmy, thank you. I can't actualy test it right now, on a mac here but have emailed my friend, if anyone here can check that would be great, if not i'll report back here when tested...
  917. # [23:00] <Vivid_> newb question... how do you direct comments to specific user on IRC? Thanks for your insight by the way, impressed you picked that up!
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  919. # [23:01] <timmywil> Vivid_: I'm looking at IE7 and 8. looks good from here. I wouldn't recommend keeping the git version in production, but it's good to know you can upgrade when 1.6.3 is released.
  920. # [23:02] <timmywil> depending on your irc client, you should be able to tab complete someone's name and they will be pinged
  921. # [23:02] <timmywil> Vivid_
  922. # [23:03] <timmywil> Vivid_: don't be too impressed. I pushed the fix for that bug. :)
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  924. # [23:04] <Vivid_> timmywil: nice thanks ;) thanks, so switch back to google CDN when it's released?
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  926. # [23:05] <timmywil> Vivid_: that should be fine since there won't be any more major changes to git until then, but I'd recommend downgrading to 1.5.2 until 1.6.3 is released.
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  928. # [23:06] <Vivid_> timmywil: sorry do you get a notification with this message?
  929. # [23:07] <timmywil> Vivid_: yes i do :)
  930. # [23:07] <Vivid_> timmywil: sweet... thanks
  931. # [23:07] <timmywil> np
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  943. # [23:29] <Vivid_> timmywil: ugghhh, still crashing for my tester
  944. # [23:29] <monteslu> with the google html5 slides, and jquery ones, I'm thinking browsers need to handle a zip file of html and resources
  945. # [23:30] <timmywil> Vivid_: strange, make sure to empty cache. it's not crashing for me.
  946. # [23:30] <monteslu> maybe something like .htmz or with a manifest.json like chrome plugins
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  948. # [23:30] <monteslu> I've done slides now with script encluded and data urls for resources, but its sloppy, and base64 is big
  949. # [23:31] <monteslu> and sometimes chrome complains when it gets resources from the local filesystem
  950. # [23:31] <monteslu> anyways, thinking out loud :)
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  956. # [23:39] <danbeam> anybody need a Google+ invite / haven't tried it yet?
  957. # [23:39] <paul_irish> https://plus.google.com/_/notifications/ngemlink?path=%2F%3Fgpinv%3DY9oRwabtnP8%3AbONhRtHuxrs
  958. # [23:39] <paul_irish> if so, then ^
  959. # [23:40] <paul_irish> also, put me in a circle: http://paulirish.com/+
  960. # [23:40] <paul_irish> cuz my posts are the fucking bee's knees. :D
  961. # [23:40] <Vivid_> ahow about that, I lready have
  962. # [23:40] <paul_irish> \o/
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  967. # [23:48] <jimi_hendrix> is it possible to attach a scroll wheel to a canvas?
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  969. # [23:49] <monteslu> its just another mouse button
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  971. # [23:50] <jimi_hendrix> err
  972. # [23:50] <jimi_hendrix> i meant scrollbar
  973. # [23:51] <monteslu> i think you can put it in a div that can scroll with css
  974. # [23:51] <jimi_hendrix> ok
  975. # [23:52] <monteslu> not sure if it will give you the behavior you really want though
  976. # [23:52] <jimi_hendrix> i will mess around with it
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