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  53. # [02:09] <appleboy> Hi all
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  59. # [02:17] <benv> hi appleboy
  60. # [02:17] <benv> eatin dem apples
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  294. # [11:15] <cryptopsy> can i ask a question about web langs here?
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  299. # [11:19] <NoNoNo> cryptopsy: go ahead
  300. # [11:19] <cryptopsy> what lang should i use to get stats on the files i have in my server?
  301. # [11:20] <cryptopsy> i.e number of html files, most recent update
  302. # [11:20] <NoNoNo> shell commands
  303. # [11:20] <cryptopsy> dynamically generated
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  306. # [11:21] <NoNoNo> cryptopsy: any language will do for such basic tasks
  307. # [11:22] <cryptopsy> js will?
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  309. # [11:27] <cryptopsy> is asynchronous javascript using html5 a recipe for disaster?
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  337. # [12:04] <davetarmac> Hi guys
  338. # [12:04] <davetarmac> here is a silly question
  339. # [12:04] <davetarmac> where does jQuery end and HTML5 begin?
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  342. # [12:13] <Dorward> davetarmac: There is a degree of overlap as jQuery (in places) will use HTML 5 features if available and fallback to other code if they are not.
  343. # [12:14] <Dorward> (Which is the case of most JS big libraries, <snark>even the good ones</snark>)
  344. # [12:15] <davetarmac> I need a nice way of creating a HTML5 slider to show images, and I was just wonering if there a tute on that
  345. # [12:15] <davetarmac> did a quick google, but it's all examples - but nothing tells you how to implement
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  351. # [12:22] <OzDave_mbp> davetarmac: save yourself a lot of browser headaches and check out the dynamicdrive.com examples
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  353. # [12:22] <OzDave_mbp> http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex14/index.html
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  355. # [12:25] <Raynos> dynamicdrive looks like a time portal to 1998
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  358. # [12:25] <davetarmac> true dat, Raynos
  359. # [12:25] <OzDave_mbp> its been around since then basically ;)
  360. # [12:26] <cryptopsy> davetarmac: there is timing difference between the two actually
  361. # [12:26] <davetarmac> cryptopsy: yeah?
  362. # [12:26] <cryptopsy> html5 will wait for js to run, that's really the premise of my question
  363. # [12:27] <cryptopsy> xahlee.org/js/js_executing_order.html
  364. # [12:27] <OzDave_mbp> well tim berners lee and netscape...
  365. # [12:27] <davetarmac> normally for a simple slideshow like this I would employ jQuery Cycle
  366. # [12:28] <Raynos> What is it with linking websites from 1998 ?
  367. # [12:28] <Raynos> Dont we have any resources that dont look like shit?
  368. # [12:29] <OzDave_mbp> code was never pretty
  369. # [12:29] <davetarmac> Yeah, but you'd think after 10 years DD would have put a bit of shine on the site :)
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  371. # [12:30] <OzDave_mbp> If it paid the bills
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  374. # [12:30] <davetarmac> s'pose...
  375. # [12:31] <OzDave_mbp> never met a client who complains some lines of code are not perfectly tabbed
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  447. # [15:19] <rasmus_> Hi! I am just not able to play a sound using the audio-tag in firefox. I have a list of <source>-tags with both OGG and WAV included, which play fine in every other browser. Do the OGG-files have to be compressed in a special way?
  448. # [15:20] <rasmus_> http://www.rimestad.no/mg/full/intro.php
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  454. # [15:29] <rasmus_> Hello?
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  458. # [15:31] <shawn_dones> rasmus_: which version of firefox?
  459. # [15:32] <rasmus_> Hang on... I just realised it does work. The problem is that I cannot access the player through getElementById... If I add "controls" to my audio-tag, it works fine.
  460. # [15:33] <rasmus_> Is it not possible to add an id-attribute to an audio-tag in firefox? Does anyone know?
  461. # [15:35] <rasmus_> Foolish typo. I have been looking in the wrong place. Sorry :)
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  483. # [16:00] <simenbrekken> any text-shadow equivalent available for IE?
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  485. # [16:00] <skyler_brungardt> Nope
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  493. # [16:06] <Neiluj> simenbrekken: try https://github.com/heygrady/textshadow
  494. # [16:07] <simenbrekken> Neiluj: thanks :)
  495. # [16:07] <xec> filter:DropShadow(Color=#EEEE66, OffX=5, OffY=5)
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  573. # [17:51] <fgro> hi. i'm working on a menu page for a restaurant. the "menu" page display categories (i.e. starts, main dishes etc.) which link to the specific categry displaying the actual dishes. Two questions here: 1) is it ok/recommended to implement the category hierarchy as a list? 2) if <h1> is "Menu" should each category be a <h2>?
  574. # [17:51] <fgro> also wondering if i should use html5 nav element
  575. # [17:51] <fgro> how compatible is that with browsers, i heard i need some javascript plugin for it to work on IE8?
  576. # [17:51] <fgro> thanks for the help ;-)
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  595. # [18:21] <fostah> fgro: html5boilerplate.com is a good start
  596. # [18:22] <Neiluj> fgro: h5boilerplate comes with modernizer which contains html5shiv, which solve the issues about new tags you're talking about
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  599. # [18:23] <Neiluj> fgro: semantically you could of course use h1 & h2 … but you should also look at <ul> <li>
  600. # [18:23] <fgro> Neiluj: well, i was thinking in terms of SEO optimization
  601. # [18:24] <Neiluj> h1…h6 are for headings, ul means unordered list so that's pretty much what you have
  602. # [18:24] <fgro> Neiluj: i'm still confused when to use headings and not
  603. # [18:24] <fgro> Neiluj: well could one combine them?
  604. # [18:24] <fgro> put a heading in a list?
  605. # [18:24] <Neiluj> yes
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  608. # [18:25] <Neiluj> <h1>Menu</h1><ul><li><h2>…
  609. # [18:25] <fgro> Neiluj: right
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  638. # [18:50] <BrianBlakely> Does someone know if Geolocation results returned can change cross-browser without an OS/browser update
  639. # [18:50] <BrianBlakely> I have a piece of functionality that didn't change at all, but the returned object is suddenly different on all UAs!
  640. # [18:51] <BrianBlakely> Now, this could have to do with the meddling of that wretched vendor...
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  642. # [18:51] <BrianBlakely> But certain circumstances (irrelevant to the question) muddy the waters a bit
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  658. # [19:09] <moo-_-> BrianBlakely: you might mention OS and platform
  659. # [19:09] <moo-_-> but I guess results depend on what kind of data the browser has available
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  683. # [19:24] <BrianBlakely> moo-_-: Saw a weird change in the result set on both Chrome and iOS
  684. # [19:25] <BrianBlakely> The element which previously was assigned a zip code now returned country
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  687. # [19:27] <BrianBlakely> And zip code is now assigned to the element after
  688. # [19:27] <BrianBlakely> Oh shit
  689. # [19:27] <BrianBlakely> I'm using Google Maps API to get that data, that doesn't come from Geolocation!
  690. # [19:28] <BrianBlakely> Whoopsies. I guess they changed things on their end, which makes total sense
  691. # [19:28] <BrianBlakely> Mystery solved
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  726. # [20:11] <moo-_-> BrianBlakely: heh. I was thinking it sounded a bit weird :)
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  736. # [20:20] <BrianBlakely> This is funny: http://my.opera.com/hallvors/blog/2011/09/12/either-too-old-or-too-modern-2
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  739. # [20:22] <paul_irish> sup brian
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  744. # [20:23] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish: Hiya!
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  748. # [20:23] <BrianBlakely> Juss HTML-ing
  749. # [20:24] <BrianBlakely> Yourself? Don't see you as active on Twitter or here anymore
  750. # [20:24] <paul_irish> IM ACTIVE ON GOOGLE PLUS
  751. # [20:24] <paul_irish> :D
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  753. # [20:24] <paul_irish> i do really enjoy the >160chars of it
  754. # [20:24] <BrianBlakely> Haha, you're not lying
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  756. # [20:25] <paul_irish> also ive always been very conservative with my tweets
  757. # [20:25] <paul_irish> but i'm trying to break that
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  759. # [20:25] <paul_irish> found this awesome chart that shows that literally 95% of my actual tweets are replies
  760. # [20:25] <Aric> o/ paul_irish
  761. # [20:25] <BrianBlakely> That makes sense for a developer relationer
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  763. # [20:26] <BrianBlakely> You're relating
  764. # [20:26] <BrianBlakely> 99% of my tweets are annoying my non-dev Facebook friends >_>
  765. # [20:26] <BrianBlakely> hah
  766. # [20:26] <paul_irish> ha
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  785. # [20:53] <paul_irish> xonecas: can you regulate on https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate-server-configs/issues/26 ?
  786. # [20:53] <socialhapy> ★ Issue #26 on html5-boilerplate-server-configs, reported by AlistairB (2m, 2w ago): web.config: fails with 'there is a duplicate section defined'
  787. # [20:53] <paul_irish> whenever you get a chance
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  923. # [21:51] <paul_irish> eighty4: http://paulirish.com/+ seems so
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  931. # [21:53] <eighty4> paul_irish: yeah I know. I DO like it better than Facebook. But atm it's just one more thing to follow (not) and write on (not). I just want ONE thing :(
  932. # [21:54] <paul_irish> ya
  933. # [21:54] <paul_irish> god i cant stand going to facebook now and looking at that news feed
  934. # [21:54] <paul_irish> its SO fucking gross
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  950. # [22:00] <axelator> don't drag the sofa king into it
  951. # [22:02] <eighty4> paul_irish: sadly most of the people I know still use Facebook. It'll be year, if ever, until they switch
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  953. # [22:03] <paul_irish> most of the people in my news feed im pretty much okay with leaving behind
  954. # [22:03] <paul_irish> i want some very lightweight digital thread connecting us
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  957. # [22:03] <paul_irish> so i dont completely forget them
  958. # [22:03] <paul_irish> but i really am uninterested with 99% of what they feel like sharing daily
  959. # [22:03] <paul_irish> (hopefully nobody from my highschool is reading this ;-)
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  961. # [22:04] <skyler_brungardt> Waaaaah!
  962. # [22:04] <skyler_brungardt> j/k
  963. # [22:05] <BrianBlakely> I can go without my good friend's mother thanking God every other post. It's just that the high-output folks who early-adopted G+ aren't posting as much anymore. :/
  964. # [22:05] <eighty4> but how will you know when it's a party going on
  965. # [22:05] <eighty4> or when scott got drunk and got faceraped?
  966. # [22:05] <BrianBlakely> I guess you'll have to call him eighty4
  967. # [22:06] <eighty4> or when Jill was wasted and did it with scotts friends husbands dog?
  968. # [22:06] <BrianBlakely> And attend the next party, because they sound pretty crazy
  969. # [22:06] <skyler_brungardt> Wow
  970. # [22:06] <skyler_brungardt> The dog
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  972. # [22:06] <eighty4> meh, all mayde up :(
  973. # [22:06] <eighty4> I don't know any Jills or scotts
  974. # [22:06] <skyler_brungardt> That's one happy dog
  975. # [22:06] <eighty4> but sounded like good american names
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  978. # [22:07] <eighty4> and if it wasn't obvious I was being ironic
  979. # [22:08] <skyler_brungardt> Man
  980. # [22:08] <eighty4> facebook isn't that important
  981. # [22:08] <skyler_brungardt> And I was really looking forward to introducing this Jill to my neighbor's dog
  982. # [22:09] <eighty4> I bet you have a Jill next door ;)
  983. # [22:09] <skyler_brungardt> Yeah, but she's into marmots.
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