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  1. # Session Start: Tue Sep 20 00:00:00 2011
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  18. # [00:40] <caraya> I'm having a stupid moment. In http://rivendellweb.net/html5/video-technical.html I can't see what the problem is that is causing video not to render on either Firefox or Safari. THe video is visible if I link directly to it but not if I use <video> with source children. It fails validation by saying Element source not allowed as child of element video in this context but I can't see why
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  23. # [00:45] <markomark> caraya: first example?
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  27. # [00:45] <caraya> markomark both of them
  28. # [00:45] <markomark> works for me on chrome
  29. # [00:45] <caraya> hmmm
  30. # [00:45] <caraya> both of them have been giving me problems today
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  32. # [00:46] <caraya> is a space before the closing bracket of the source element required?
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  34. # [00:47] <caraya> that's the only thing I've done different since I posted the question
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  50. # [01:16] <cirwin> is HTTP basic auth supposed to work with CORS? It seems to in chrome but not Firefox
  51. # [01:18] <cirwin> I wrote a test script: https://test-cors.appspot.com/#technical
  52. # [01:18] <ryanseddon> withCredentials
  53. # [01:18] <cirwin> yeah, I'm setting that I thiknk
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  89. # [02:14] <croby> what are people liking these days for handling text-overflow compatibility for older browsers?
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  91. # [02:15] <divya> you mean ellipsis?
  92. # [02:15] <croby> yes
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  96. # [02:16] <divya> would not doing anything not be a solution?
  97. # [02:16] <croby> correct, fixed-height design
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  101. # [02:17] <croby> i've used jquery.threedots before to handle it, but that requires that i put a JS call in for each element I want to create an ellipsis on overflow for -- i'd prefer something that either a) adds the CSS3 compatibility to the browser, or b) handles it via some class (ellipsis-3-line or something)
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  262. # [07:29] <thatryan> anyone working tonight? or morning?
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  266. # [07:41] <cirwin> dont-ask-to-ask™
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  268. # [07:46] <tw2113> yo thatryan
  269. # [07:46] <thatryan> hey man, how goes it
  270. # [07:46] <tw2113> watching Weird Science season 5 :D
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  278. # [07:50] <thatryan> nice
  279. # [07:50] <tw2113> retro-tastically awesome
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  347. # [09:54] <daleharvey> if I dynamically set the base href, everything is getting requested twice, this is weird
  348. # [09:55] <thnee> daleharvey: example?
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  350. # [09:57] <daleharvey> http://pastebin.me/pastebin/_design/pastebin.me/_show/raw/188842111b3069a3aa51932b1e0fc463
  351. # [09:57] <daleharvey> check firebug requests panel
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  353. # [09:58] <daleharvey> in firefox, only see it once in chrome, and forgive the use of document.write, I was just testing since editing an existing <base might affect it
  354. # [10:00] <daleharvey> its not a massive deal since the second request works, but its kinda annoying at the console :P
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  363. # [10:27] <thnee> daleharvey: not sure what i'm looking for there
  364. # [10:27] <thnee> i get wtf, wtf2, and a 404 on main.css
  365. # [10:29] <thnee> you have to explain: a) expected result and b) actual result
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  468. # [13:54] <nabax> hi
  469. # [13:55] <nabax> I've an audio tag but can't manage to get it to play from js
  470. # [13:55] <nabax> I'm doing $('#myAudioTagId').play();
  471. # [13:55] <nabax> is that the correct way?
  472. # [13:56] <nabax> document.getElementById('myAudioTagId').play(); doesn't work either
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  475. # [14:00] <PirateMoo> nabax: can you please put your code to jsfiddle.net?
  476. # [14:00] <PirateMoo> the latter is correct way
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  478. # [14:01] <nabax> oh wait
  479. # [14:01] <nabax> I've just read Chrome doesn't support wav
  480. # [14:01] <nabax> that'd be the source of the problem I guess :)
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  524. # [15:26] <hellofoo> html5 supports PUT and DELETE ? or is it just POST and GET still ?
  525. # [15:30] <Moo^_-> not in <form>
  526. # [15:32] <hellofoo> right, just found that in the specs. thanks
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  657. # [18:46] <thatryan> glad ya did, she can be annoying thinking she knows everything about everything ;)
  658. # [18:50] <divya> thatryan: she might be here!
  659. # [18:51] <thatryan> lol i do not see her :) but if so than i deserve it lol
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  662. # [18:55] <tw2113> ?
  663. # [18:59] <daleharvey> I found a fun bug with firefox
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  665. # [18:59] <daleharvey> if you modify <base href="" after the page starts loading, it does all the requests twice!
  666. # [18:59] <daleharvey> http://pastebin.me/pastebin/_design/pastebin.me/_show/raw/188842111b3069a3aa51932b1e0fc463 (need to have the net panel open)
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  668. # [19:03] <robreact> wouldn't that be the expected behavior?
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  674. # [19:11] <daleharvey> it might kinda make sense for request made before the modification, not not every one after it
  675. # [19:11] <daleharvey> chrome doesnt do the same
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  683. # [19:18] <thnee> daleharvey: your example still makes no sense to me, please specify a) expected result, b) actual result
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  685. # [19:19] <daleharvey> expected) 1 http request to main.css, actual), 2 http requests for main.css
  686. # [19:20] <thnee> you get one request to http://pastebin.me/pastebin/_design/pastebin.me/_show/raw/style/main.css
  687. # [19:20] <thnee> and another to http://pastebin.me/couch/_design/_design/couchtasks/style/main.css
  688. # [19:20] <daleharvey> yup
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  692. # [19:23] <daleharvey> both requests are made after the modification has been done, and the script that modified it is blocking, so it seems like theres some parser thats looking ahead, collecting the requests ahead of the script executing, then not being invalidated correctly
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  696. # [19:28] <thnee> daleharvey: i think it is expected, maybe it's the browser retrying because it 404's http://jsfiddle.net/gFdaT/3/
  697. # [19:30] <daleharvey> I think the double request you have there is to do with jsfiddle, browsers shouldnt randomly rety stuff that 404'd
  698. # [19:30] <daleharvey> http://pastebin.me/pastebin/_design/pastebin.me/_show/raw/188842111b3069a3aa51932b1e161656
  699. # [19:31] <thnee> mkay
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  703. # [19:37] <jacine> rupl: hey :)
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  714. # [19:44] <JohnnyL> Can someone please tell me how to prep graphics layouts for printing in html5?
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  718. # [19:47] <Pomax> css media="print"?
  719. # [19:48] <phrearch> anyone compared codemirror2 with ace?
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  723. # [19:50] <JohnnyL> Pomax: k , thought it would be harder.
  724. # [19:50] <JohnnyL> Pomax: I suppose having a printer would help! :)
  725. # [19:50] <Pomax> lol
  726. # [19:50] <Pomax> pdf printer works too =)
  727. # [19:51] <JohnnyL> pdf: where do I get that?
  728. # [19:51] <Pomax> print allows few things you don't normally use for pages, too.
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  730. # [19:51] <Pomax> like pagebreaks and page centering.
  731. # [19:51] <Pomax> depends on your OS
  732. # [19:51] <JohnnyL> windbloze
  733. # [19:52] <Pomax> I use Adobe's PDF printer (mostly because they came up with the spec, so it gets things the most "correct")
  734. # [19:52] <Pomax> but then I do own acrobat. I'm not sure whether it comes with just reader
  735. # [19:52] <Pomax> there's PDFCreator, http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/
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  741. # [19:56] <JohnnyL> Pomax: like most open sores, i get errors while trying to install it
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  743. # [19:56] <Pomax> \o/
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  745. # [19:56] <Pomax> although I do take exception to the first part of that statement =)
  746. # [19:56] <Pomax> did you download the "stable"?
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  748. # [19:56] <Pomax> (if there is one, of course)
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  750. # [19:56] <JohnnyL> who knows
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  753. # [20:00] <Pomax> well, source forge would. let's have a look
  754. # [20:01] <Pomax> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/files/PDFCreator/PDFCreator%201.2.3/PDFCreator-1_2_3_setup.exe/download looks like the stable verison
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  757. # [20:02] <JohnnyL> Pomax: it says i have to restart my windows brb
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  763. # [20:04] <phrearch> hm, or use emscripten's pdf conversion of poppler?
  764. # [20:05] <phrearch> bit big lib, but works fine :)
  765. # [20:05] <phrearch> http://syntensity.com/static/poppler.html
  766. # [20:05] <Pomax> as long as it installs as a printer.
  767. # [20:05] <phrearch> nah, it wont
  768. # [20:05] <Pomax> because pdf.js et. al are nowhere near done yet
  769. # [20:06] <Pomax> although pdf.js has a really nice amount of devs on it atm
  770. # [20:06] <phrearch> well, it should render fine. its a one-on-one implementation of poppler in javascript
  771. # [20:06] <Pomax> kudos to Adobe for making pdf 1.7 an Adobe-doesn't-own-it-anymore ISO standard, but it's a ridiculously huge spec
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  775. # [20:11] <Moo^_-> Pomax: If you don't like PDF there is always OOXML! :)
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  778. # [20:12] <Pomax> I love PDF.
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  780. # [20:13] <Pomax> I'm a XeLaTeX and PDF kind of guy, but the features I use in PDF, not a lot of implementations support
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  782. # [20:13] <Pomax> because it's always on the "we'll do that after we've covered the basics" list
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  795. # [20:23] <JohnnyL> well, after getting print spool on and enabled windwos installer I got ms xps working
  796. # [20:23] <Pomax> while that exists, it never should have.
  797. # [20:23] <Pomax> but phrearch had a good suggest
  798. # [20:23] <Pomax> +ion
  799. # [20:23] <Pomax> <phrearch> hm, or use emscripten's pdf conversion of poppler?
  800. # [20:23] <Pomax> <phrearch> bit big lib, but works fine :)
  801. # [20:23] <Pomax> <phrearch> http://syntensity.com/static/poppler.html
  802. # [20:25] <phrearch> if you need it to be handled on the clientside
  803. # [20:25] <phrearch> maybe it can be used with node.js, dunno
  804. # [20:26] <phrearch> never looked into node.js :)
  805. # [20:26] <phrearch> dont really understand the hype about it either :p
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  866. # [22:09] <BrianBlakely> Async file upload via POST - is the only way to do this via an iframe hack?
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  882. # [22:35] <daleharvey> you can ajax it?
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  895. # [22:38] <BrianBlakely> daleharvey: Sorry, I don't understand your meaning
  896. # [22:40] <daleharvey> in chrome and firebug at least, you can read the file and have ajax upload it, probably some other browsers, probably not ie
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  898. # [22:40] <daleharvey> https://github.com/daleharvey/dropup/blob/master/docroot/client.dropup.js - http://dropup.net
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  904. # [22:45] <BrianBlakely> daleharvey: IE7/8 support is a must in this particular case
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  931. # [23:25] <JonathanNeal> hiya
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  939. # [23:45] <gavacho> is an ajax request to a different port of the same server considered cross-site scripting requiring the use of something like jsonp?
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  952. # [23:54] * Topic is 'Ask any question about HTML5 & Friends || HTML5 Spec for Developers: http://developers.whatwg.org || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.org http://mzl.la/9giLwR || Channel logs: http://j.mp/cG7UDa'
  953. # [23:54] * Set by marienz!~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz on Wed Aug 10 22:18:05
  954. # [23:56] <irae_> gavacho: yes, port is considered a part of same origin policy
  955. # [23:56] <irae_> gavacho: "Mozilla considers two pages to have the same origin if the protocol, port (if one is specified), and host are the same for both pages." --> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Same_origin_policy_for_JavaScript
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