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  1. # Session Start: Thu Oct 06 00:00:01 2011
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  5. # [00:15] <thatryan> JonathanNeal: so what happened to pilgrims site? was there a reason he killed it?
  6. # [00:15] <JonathanNeal> I don't know.
  7. # [00:15] <JonathanNeal> Well, I know it was shut down, it was intentional, and he wants to be left alone.
  8. # [00:15] <thatryan> weird
  9. # [00:17] <tw2113> he kind of committed internet suicide or whatever
  10. # [00:17] <tw2113> deleted a huge amount of his stuff
  11. # [00:17] <danielfilho> is he still working for google?
  12. # [00:17] <thatryan> what does infosuicide even mean
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  15. # [00:18] <JonathanNeal> it means you kill all of your own info, thatryan
  16. # [00:19] <JonathanNeal> It is the dilberate self destruction of information by the creator and owner of the information.
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  18. # [00:26] <tw2113> thatryan it'd be like you went and deleted your facebook, twitter, github, myspace, friendster, yahoo, msn, aol, icq, and all your personal websites
  19. # [00:26] <tw2113> take yourself off the proverbial grid
  20. # [00:26] <thatryan> i get it, just dont know why
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  22. # [00:26] <tw2113> because he made the decision to, and asks that people respect his decision
  23. # [00:27] <thatryan> yes i understand that
  24. # [00:27] <tw2113> :D
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  28. # [00:30] <OzDave_mbp> This Australian alternative to mazuma will offer $405.66 for my iphone4(32gig)
  29. # [00:30] <OzDave_mbp> http://regadget.com.au/mobile-phones/apple/apple-iphone-4-32gb/
  30. # [00:31] <OzDave_mbp> that is a shitty price for an immaculate cared for baby
  31. # [00:33] <OzDave_mbp> no ipad3 or iphone 5 for this christmas, other tablet vendors will have a free christmas run against 4s
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  33. # [00:37] * tantek discovers http://html5homi.es/
  34. # [00:38] <tantek> hilarious. JonathanNeal - did you invent the HTML5 gang-sign?
  35. # [00:38] <JonathanNeal> yes, that is my claim to fame
  36. # [00:38] <JonathanNeal> inventor of a gang sign
  37. # [00:38] <JonathanNeal> I'm also silly.
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  39. # [00:40] <rupl> that's awesome
  40. # [00:40] <rupl> JonathanNeal++
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  42. # [00:41] <JonathanNeal> The javascript in me says you should ++JonathanNeal, it's less resource intensive by fractions.
  43. # [00:42] <rupl> ah yes, but the bot only picks up ++ after the name
  44. # [00:42] <tw2113> i admittedly don't quite get the html5 gang sign
  45. # [00:43] <tw2113> i know how to do vi(m) and emac gang signs though
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  49. # [00:49] <danielfilho> ++JonathanNeal: kudos too. I didn't knew that sign!
  50. # [00:49] <danielfilho> will make it on conferences and maybe be arrested somewhere! k00l :D
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  53. # [00:50] <tantek> JonathanNeal - sweet video. Especially the soundtrack. :)
  54. # [00:51] <tantek> or I should say - goes well with this in the background playing on last.fm: http://www.last.fm/music/Orchestra+Da+Camera+Di+Roma/_/Two+Melodies%3A+The+First+Meeting
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  56. # [00:54] <JonathanNeal> wait a minute, the background music in that video you just shared
  57. # [00:54] <JonathanNeal> oh, i meant the comercial beforehand for cherios
  58. # [00:55] <JonathanNeal> Reminded me of another song I had done @ http://bit.ly/92a25n
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  77. # [01:29] <aidalgol> How do I centre an element vertically (within its container)?
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  80. # [01:31] <tantek> aidalgol: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Centering_Block_Element#Vertical_Centering
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  82. # [01:32] <JonathanNeal> Anyone with an iPad or tablet? http://www.diveinto.org/html5/modern.index.html
  83. # [01:32] <tantek> iPod touch?
  84. # [01:32] <JonathanNeal> I'll work on getting it iPod friendly right now and then, yes.
  85. # [01:34] <tantek> ooh that's pretty unfriendly
  86. # [01:34] <tantek> it's both too wide, and zooming out is disabled!
  87. # [01:34] <tantek> (either orientation)
  88. # [01:34] <tantek> (this is a gen 4 iPod Touch with Retina display, so almost the same resolution as iPad)
  89. # [01:34] * tantek views source
  90. # [01:35] * tantek just reloaded
  91. # [01:36] <tantek> hmm… that's odd, reloading fixed it.
  92. # [01:36] <tantek> ok JonathanNeal, modern.index.html looks/acts reasonable on an iPod touch.
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  95. # [01:43] <JonathanNeal> tantek: now it's ipod friendly.
  96. # [01:43] <tantek> verified.
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  103. # [01:50] <paul_irish> rest in beautifully designed, silver and sleek peace
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  107. # [02:02] <tw2113> sad thing to hear, but i still haven't ever used my own mac product since a gen3 ipod
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  113. # [02:09] <thatryan> sad day
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  119. # [02:16] <aidalgol> OK, that wasn't what I wanted. I have two elements placed side-by-side (by setting display to inline-block); how do I centre them vertically (with respect to each other)?
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  137. # [02:55] <benschwarz> tantek, JonathanNeal was it not ipod friendly?
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  139. # [02:56] <JonathanNeal> benschwarz: was what not ipod friendly?
  140. # [02:56] <JonathanNeal> What I've got @ http://www.diveinto.org/html5/modern.index.html is meant to be extremely desktop / tablet / handheld friendly.
  141. # [02:57] <JonathanNeal> I used screenshots of books in tablets and on ipads to base it.
  142. # [02:57] <benschwarz> it looks totally different to before :)
  143. # [02:57] <benschwarz> but its looking good
  144. # [02:57] <benschwarz> just wanted to know if there was something I missed
  145. # [02:57] <benschwarz> I tested the original stylesheets for a range of devices
  146. # [02:59] <JonathanNeal> Oh on your site? Your site looked beautiuful.
  147. # [02:59] <JonathanNeal> I'm mostly basing my design off yours.
  148. # [02:59] <JonathanNeal> It's the original diveintohtml5 that isn't multi-device friendly.
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  151. # [03:03] <benschwarz> oh ok
  152. # [03:03] <benschwarz> I really wish I'd gone and converted my stuff to use compass
  153. # [03:03] <benschwarz> rather than what I quickly hacked together for it
  154. # [03:03] <benschwarz> buutt whatever, it does the job
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  158. # [03:07] <JonathanNeal> compas?
  159. # [03:07] <JonathanNeal> What's that?
  160. # [03:09] <benschwarz> compass?
  161. # [03:09] <benschwarz> compass-style.org
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  165. # [03:19] <benschwarz> JonathanNeal: you removed the search?
  166. # [03:19] <JonathanNeal> I plan to re-add it.
  167. # [03:19] <JonathanNeal> I'm not sure how to create the search json object yet.
  168. # [03:19] <JonathanNeal> I'm still getting a hang for this site.
  169. # [03:20] <benschwarz> sure.
  170. # [03:20] <benschwarz> I guess you saw I created it using a ruby script…
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  172. # [03:24] <JonathanNeal> I am vastly ungifted at several web languages.
  173. # [03:24] <benschwarz> JonathanNeal: I don't have a lot of bandwidth to offer help right now
  174. # [03:25] <JonathanNeal> Oh don't worry, I wasn't going to bug you for help.
  175. # [03:25] <JonathanNeal> :)
  176. # [03:25] <JonathanNeal> I've got two pages roughly done @ http://www.diveinto.org/html5/modern.index.html and http://www.diveinto.org/html5/modern.introduction.html
  177. # [03:27] <kaushik_> what is the best ide for developing html5 on ubuntu
  178. # [03:27] <kaushik_> ?
  179. # [03:27] <kaushik_> any idea guys ?
  180. # [03:28] <franksalim> kaushik_: firefox, chrome, and gedit
  181. # [03:28] <tw2113> woo gedit
  182. # [03:28] <franksalim> add a terminal, and you have what i call my disintegrated development environment
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  202. # [04:09] <JonathanNeal> Another blatant update we can do to diveintohtml5 is "Even Microsoft — rarely known for blazing the trail of standards support — will be supporting most HTML5 features in the upcoming Internet Explorer 9."
  203. # [04:10] <JonathanNeal> should read "has been supporting most HTML5 features since Internet Explorer 9." ?
  204. # [04:10] <JonathanNeal> is supporting
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  211. # [04:23] <ExpFist> JonathanNeal actually
  212. # [04:23] <JonathanNeal> Actually?
  213. # [04:23] <ExpFist> IE 9 is far far faster than firefox for HTML5/Canvas
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  215. # [04:24] <ExpFist> That and you can copy from the build in firebug logs so I use it for debugging most of the time, which is saying a lot if you knew me
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  220. # [04:27] <JonathanNeal> I'm confused.
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  234. # [05:00] <kaushik_> if i am not make it very awkward , may i know if we can make very rich animation based websites .like A
  235. # [05:00] <kaushik_> Flash website
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  318. # [08:03] <Epeli> Is there a way to read mouse position on top of canvas? And I mean read. The mousemove-event won't do, because I need to read it more often than it fires
  319. # [08:08] <moo-_-> unfortunately I believe mouse events are the only way how mouse is currently being exposed in the browsers
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  323. # [08:24] <Epeli> It seems that way :/
  324. # [08:24] <Epeli> maybe we'll have to just live with it.
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  326. # [08:27] <ryanseddon> wow IE9 mobile has crazy good canvas support http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfYeoR3Ug4E
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  331. # [08:36] <JohnnyL> Can you have daemons running on the client if you change web pages?
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  334. # [08:40] <eighty4> JohnnyL: daemons running?
  335. # [08:42] <jetienne_> JohnnyL: chrome got somethin called background page
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  337. # [08:42] <jetienne_> JohnnyL: but nothing in the standard
  338. # [08:42] <moo-_-> Epeli: you can always use Flash :)
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  340. # [08:43] <jetienne_> Epeli: why do you need more mousemove events ?
  341. # [08:44] <JohnnyL> jetienne ok. thanks
  342. # [08:44] <Epeli> jetienne_: doing a drawing application. I'd like to draw smoother lines.
  343. # [08:44] <Epeli> moo-_-: funny :)
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  345. # [08:49] <JohnnyL> jetienne: how about revisting a page, then uploading the data because the server is now 'ready'?
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  349. # [08:53] <jetienne_> JohnnyL: i dont understand. can you elaborate
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  353. # [08:59] <JohnnyL> jetienne: i'd like to store data in the web browser(minus clear cache) and upload when the server is ready, or when I visit the site again.
  354. # [08:59] <JohnnyL> believe this is a html5 thingie
  355. # [08:59] <jetienne_> JohnnyL: put them in localStorage
  356. # [09:00] <jetienne_> JohnnyL: this is place to store data between page load
  357. # [09:00] <jetienne_> JohnnyL: upload the content when the site is visited again.
  358. # [09:00] <tw2113> just realized who you were jetienne_
  359. # [09:00] <JohnnyL> jetienne: ok thanks
  360. # [09:01] <jetienne_> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/offline/storage/ JohnnyL may be of interest
  361. # [09:01] <jetienne_> tw2113: ah ? :)
  362. # [09:01] <tw2113> twitter follower plus I use your QR jquery plugin on my resume site
  363. # [09:03] <jetienne_> tw2113: cool:) btw jquery-qrcode got updated recently. one can display on <table> and generate qrcode for string 4000+ char now
  364. # [09:03] <tw2113> hey, nice
  365. # [09:04] <tw2113> not sure i need 4000 characters, but i do use it to link to a vcf file and the root domain so people can easily get the site loaded on their phone
  366. # [09:07] <jetienne_> some people put lots of data in qrcode. not sure why. personnaly i put only super simple url in it :)
  367. # [09:07] <tw2113> well, with Nanowrimo coming up...
  368. # [09:07] <tw2113> that would prove an interesting way to present your story
  369. # [09:07] <tw2113> a wall-o-qr
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  374. # [09:10] <JohnnyL> jetienne: thanks
  375. # [09:13] <josefrichter> anyone worked with microdata please? any way to combine Product and Book vocabularies?
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  378. # [09:15] <tantek> josefrichter - what's the page you're trying to mark up?
  379. # [09:15] <josefrichter> tantek http://josefrichter.com/motorpresse/produit.html
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  381. # [09:16] <josefrichter> tantek I know how to nest Offer into Product, but don't know how and where to nest Book
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  383. # [09:16] <josefrichter> tantek maybe I should use Book and nest Offer and forget about Product?
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  386. # [09:21] <josefrichter> tantek any ideas?
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  394. # [09:39] <aidalgol> Why are the <div class="caption"> elements on this page all of slightly different width, and how can I make then all vertically aligned (conceptually)?
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  396. # [09:40] <kollapse> Hello there.
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  400. # [09:42] <kollapse> I'm looking for a free SSL certificate that I can use. Anyone here used startssl ? (http://startssl.com/)
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  409. # [10:01] <moo-_-> ireland must be a sad land to be a web developer
  410. # [10:01] <moo-_-> kollapse: you can use self-signed certificates for free
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  412. # [10:03] <kollapse> moo-_-: Without using a certificate provider ?
  413. # [10:03] <moo-_-> kollapse: yes
  414. # [10:03] <moo-_-> you get this ugly red warning message when going to the site for the first time
  415. # [10:04] <moo-_-> but you can create certs yourself
  416. # [10:04] <kollapse> moo-_-: Yes well I'm not looking for that big red screen. :)
  417. # [10:04] <moo-_-> kollapse: then I suggest you need to get some pennies together :(
  418. # [10:04] <moo-_-> I think cheapest certificates I have seen where 60 USD / year
  419. # [10:04] <kollapse> Well I see that SSL cert in that link is free.
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  421. # [10:05] <kollapse> Though I'm a little unsure whether I should give my personal details or not. I want to remain as anonymous as possible.
  422. # [10:05] <jetienne_> 60usd/year for less than second of cpu, and 1k of storage
  423. # [10:06] <f0f> anonymity is important, my friend pays for anonymous domain registration for his eponymous site
  424. # [10:06] <moo-_-> kollapse: SSL is also to check your identity
  425. # [10:06] <moo-_-> how there can be trust if I don't know who you are?
  426. # [10:07] * moo-_- would not wonder if any free SSL provider will end up to a blacklist in any point of time
  427. # [10:07] <kollapse> Well I'm only looking into SSL for connection encryption, as in the technical part.
  428. # [10:07] <kollapse> To prevent eavesdropping.
  429. # [10:08] <moo-_-> kollapse: then self-signed is as good as any
  430. # [10:08] <moo-_-> :)
  431. # [10:08] <kollapse> Ok then. 32 768 bit RSA key, here I come.
  432. # [10:09] * kollapse jokes, obviously.
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  434. # [10:11] <EMKO> I wonder how they will secure SSL in the future when quantum computers will crack them
  435. # [10:11] <Kichael> with quantum encryption
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  437. # [10:13] <EMKO> Hmm I wonder if the one they are selling can break anything?
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  439. # [10:16] <EMKO> The 128 cubit proccessor
  440. # [10:16] <EMKO> Qubit
  441. # [10:17] <kollapse> Is there no way to make a valid self-signed SSL cert ? As in not have that giant red screen tear away at my retina ?
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  443. # [10:18] <EMKO> Doesn't mozzila have to add the cert
  444. # [10:18] <EMKO> Like when those fake cert where removed
  445. # [10:21] <EMKO> I think you have to buy one that browsers say are valid
  446. # [10:21] <kollapse> This browser policy is stupid if you ask me. There's no big red screen when you submit sensitive data via classic no SSL HTTP yet you do get one when using a self-signed SSL cert. It's like they are completely ignoring the issue of encryption.
  447. # [10:21] <moo-_-> kollapse: it is
  448. # [10:21] <moo-_-> SSL handles both trust and encryption
  449. # [10:21] <moo-_-> there is no model for encryption only
  450. # [10:21] <kollapse> Unfortunately... :/
  451. # [10:22] <EMKO> Its safer this way
  452. # [10:22] <moo-_-> it is
  453. # [10:22] <moo-_-> because otherwise DNS spoofing would enable man-in-the-middle attacks
  454. # [10:22] <kollapse> Just looks like another marketing strategy to rip off cash from the users. VeriSign comes into mind.
  455. # [10:22] <moo-_-> giving SSL cert is not enough because without verification chain you cannot know if it's real thing
  456. # [10:23] <moo-_-> that's why losing those google.com etc. certs was a big deal
  457. # [10:23] <EMKO> Look at that company that got hacked
  458. # [10:24] <EMKO> And hackers made certs and with this they listens in on Iran's Gmail accounts 300000 of them
  459. # [10:25] <EMKO> So browsers right away removed them
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  491. # [11:23] <simenbrekken> I'm looking for a :before/:after IE7 polyfill, any pointers?
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  494. # [11:33] <moo-_-> simenbrekken: should such thing exist in poor IE7?
  495. # [11:35] <budmaddock> diveintohtml5.org is no longer hosted.
  496. # [11:35] <simenbrekken> moo-_-: i'm not looking for an analysis of what IE7 should have, I'm looking for a polyfill,.
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  510. # [12:01] <budmaddock> simenbrekken: github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr/wiki/HTML5-Cross-browser-Polyfills might have what you need.
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  539. # [12:42] <budmaddock> Been working on these damn web pages
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  541. # [12:53] <jetienne> paul_irish: what is the status of source mapping in chrome debugger ? is that implemented already ?
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  551. # [13:37] <Epeli> Does Android devices usually show JS exceptions in adb console?
  552. # [13:37] <Epeli> when using the stock browser
  553. # [13:38] <Epeli> because my HTC Desire Z does no
  554. # [13:38] <Epeli> not
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  557. # [13:40] <Epeli> I'd need know which tablets show those
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  601. # [14:57] <Epeli> Was there a reason why func.apply(somthing, arguments); should no be used?
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  612. # [15:12] <kollapse> Anyone have any idea which one of these is the best ? RSA, DES, Triple DES, AES.
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  614. # [15:12] <jetienne> kollapse: use a security standard.
  615. # [15:13] <jetienne> kollapse: and even better a security lib. you should not do it yourself. it it way too easy to shoot yourself in the foot
  616. # [15:15] <kollapse> jetienne: Of course, I'm using OpenSSL. I need to generate a private key though I don't know which cipher I should use.
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  618. # [15:16] <jetienne> kollapse: ah ok. rsa/aes then
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  621. # [15:22] <memoryleak> rsa-keygen -t rsa is what I use
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  648. # [16:14] <paul_irish> jetienne: i havent seen taht souce mapping ticket move forward lately, nah :(
  649. # [16:15] <jetienne> paul_irish: ok. too bad indeed
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  655. # [16:21] <nabax> is there something faster than getImageData to retrieve the color of a pixel?
  656. # [16:22] <nabax> in a canvas I mean
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  720. # [17:56] <rupl> If anyone wants to talk future friendly stuff, we started a new channel at #ffly
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  742. # [18:20] <ddelrio1986> rupl, what exactly is future friendly stuff?
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  744. # [18:20] <rupl> ddelrio1986: in a nutshell, it's the notion that the web will become much more diverse as it grows, and we need to keep this in mind as we develop and design
  745. # [18:20] <rupl> ddelrio1986: http://futurefriend.ly
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  774. # [19:13] <trumpetmic> what are you using now to get box-shadows in ie?  something like cssFx or cssPie?
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  788. # [19:37] <Pomax> IE9.
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  831. # [20:25] <JonathanNeal> Good afternoon.
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  840. # [20:39] <danielfilho> hey :)
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  844. # [20:45] <ddelrio1986> trumpetmic, I also would use IE9 for box-shadow though I believe there are many XP stragglers still out there and I think the newest IE that XP supports is 8 so I just usually keep in mind that on XP there won't be a box-shadow and if it is SUPER IMPORTANT (not sure why it would be) to have the box-shadow in old IE versions then use a graphic (it feels dirty actually saying that).
  845. # [20:46] <Pomax> on XP I would use firefox as solution.
  846. # [20:46] <Pomax> which doesn't require installing.
  847. # [20:47] <ddelrio1986> Pomax, it would be great if we could dictate what our users should use but that brings the web back to the days of having footers on pages which state (this page is best used with IE5 on 800x600 and if you don't meet that then you're screwed).
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  854. # [20:52] <Pomax> oh it's very simple. for intranet pages in a "we only support some IE below 9" you don't bother with CSS3
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  856. # [20:53] <Pomax> for everything else, upgrading *is* an option
  857. # [20:53] <ddelrio1986> Yeah, Intranet is great. I love having that kind of control.
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  860. # [20:54] <ddelrio1986> I say we just force our user's to install a Linux distro of their choice and run either Chrome or FF then. XD
  861. # [20:55] <ddelrio1986> Any other FF users in here?
  862. # [20:55] <ddelrio1986> How long has the sync feature not been working for you guys?
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  892. # [21:26] <amid_hasan> can someone tell me how to extract the city, state or city or state based on html5 geolocation?
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  898. # [21:29] <miketaylr> amid_hasan: stick the latitude and longitude values that geolocation returns into some kind of reverse geocoding service
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  900. # [21:29] <tw2113> like yql
  901. # [21:30] <tw2113> :D
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  903. # [21:31] <Pomax> http://merged.ca/iphone/html5-geolocation for a pretty simple example with working code
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  905. # [21:32] <amid_hasan> Pomax: i'm not on iphone
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  907. # [21:32] <amid_hasan> Pomax: should this work on any html5 browser/
  908. # [21:32] <amid_hasan> ?
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  911. # [21:35] <tw2113> amid_hasan as long as you can get the lat/long coordinates, you can use some other service to return the city/state info
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  914. # [21:42] <amid_hasan> tw2113: any ideas which service can return the city state only out of the coordinates?
  915. # [21:43] <tw2113> yql geoplacemaker
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  919. # [21:44] <amid_hasan> tw2113: can google maps api return it as well?
  920. # [21:44] <tw2113> probably
  921. # [21:45] <tw2113> i'd be really surprised if google maps couldn't utilize lat/long coords
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  923. # [21:46] <amid_hasan> tw2113: i'm positive i can get google maps to put a marker on a map based on the coords, however, the data sent to their maps api is solely lat,lng
  924. # [21:47] <niftylettuce_> look what some dude made... http://theiloveshirt.com
  925. # [21:47] <niftylettuce_> what a crazy dude
  926. # [21:48] <amid_hasan> nitylettuce_: yeah totally useless
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  932. # [21:51] <tw2113> http://developer.yahoo.com/maps/rest/V1/geocode.html
  933. # [21:51] <tw2113> maybe
  934. # [21:51] <Pomax> amid_hasan: the link says iphone. the content has nothing to do with "iphone".
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  937. # [21:52] <tw2113> http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/javascript/services.html#ReverseGeocoding
  938. # [21:55] <amid_hasan> tw2113: thank you for the resource
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  967. # [22:27] <Wilto> Hey, is <meter> still pretty much locked down in Chrome, styling-wise?
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  975. # [22:31] <Wilto> Whoop, yeah, -webkit-appearance—my bad.
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  990. # [22:44] <Cacheaway> Hello. Using the build scripts for the first time and my multiple js files aren't getting concatenated into the one main stripped file.
  991. # [22:45] <Cacheaway> Sorry, this is for boilerplate
  992. # [22:45] <Cacheaway> The build script IS removing the script tags from the index file and replacing them with one script tag which points to a concatenated script, but that concatenated script doesn't include the programming from the files whose script tags were removed
  993. # [22:45] <Cacheaway> so the build script is finding them, and removing their tags, but it is not putting them into the concatenation. is there a config value that I'm not aware of?
  994. # [22:45] <divya> Cacheaway: weird
  995. # [22:45] <divya> looking
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  997. # [22:48] <manuchill> divya, all set for tomorrow @ fronteers?
  998. # [22:48] <divya> manuchill: hope so!
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  1000. # [22:49] <manuchill> divya, lol, looking forward to it
  1001. # [22:49] <divya> manuchill: o cool :)
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  1012. # [23:00] <Cacheaway> do my files need to be in /js/mylibs?
  1013. # [23:02] <divya> yes Cacheaway
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  1023. # [23:07] <chovy> fronteers?
  1024. # [23:08] <manuchill> divya, good luck tomorrow, i'm sure you'll do great
  1025. # [23:08] <divya> thnx manuchill
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  1048. # [23:36] <JonathanNeal> This is probably the most important commit of my life https://github.com/jonathantneal/diveintohtml5/commit/deff3413935450c7fc54a2433999ddfdfccc8117
  1049. # [23:36] <socialhapy> ★ Commit on diveintohtml5 by jonathantneal (53.051s ago): Typo where "imbrella" should have been "umbrella"
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  1054. # [23:40] <tw2113> no wonder what that rumble was johnkpaul
  1055. # [23:40] <tw2113> er JonathanNeal
  1056. # [23:41] <JonathanNeal> :)
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