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  7. # [00:11] <chovy> howdy
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  69. # [02:05] <lingolatz> Is there way I can make an element non-"selectable"? (i.e. not allow a user to select an element in a way that makes it have a blue tint)
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  500. # [21:05] <Grognardian> hey
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  502. # [21:06] <Grognardian> when i create my canvas using CSS width and height, and make it taller than it is wide, my 50x50 rectangles come out very distorted
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  514. # [21:14] <Ms2ger> Grognardian, CSS width and height don't affect the actual canvas
  515. # [21:15] <Grognardian> http://jsfiddle.net/9CSx8/
  516. # [21:15] <Grognardian> sorry here
  517. # [21:15] <Grognardian> http://jsfiddle.net/9CSx8/
  518. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> Yes
  519. # [21:16] <Grognardian> wtf canvas seems odd
  520. # [21:16] <Grognardian> you cant have perfect square if your canvas is not a perfect square
  521. # [21:16] <Grognardian> this seems like a trivial thing
  522. # [21:17] <Ms2ger> Of course you can
  523. # [21:17] <Ms2ger> You just need the width and height *attributes*
  524. # [21:17] <Ms2ger> CSS only scales the canvas, but doesn't affect its coordinates
  525. # [21:20] <Grognardian> oh i see
  526. # [21:20] <Grognardian> so if i make the canvas width and height 100% of the div?
  527. # [21:20] <Grognardian> it wasnt in a div.. should i place it in one and do that
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  530. # [21:26] <moo-_-> <canvas width=200 height=200>
  531. # [21:26] <moo-_-> Grognardian: that's what you want
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  533. # [21:28] <Grognardian> moo-_-, that seems to work
  534. # [21:28] <Grognardian> http://www.webdevout.net/test?01g&raw
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  536. # [21:29] <Grognardian> but how can i place a border around my canvas, not the div
  537. # [21:29] <Grognardian> in order to make sure its filling properly
  538. # [21:30] <moo-_-> Grognardian: CSS border?
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  540. # [21:30] <Grognardian> oh yeah lolol
  541. # [21:30] <moo-_-> Grognardian: I suggest you do it with... CSS!
  542. # [21:31] <moo-_-> :)
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  544. # [21:31] <Grognardian> NO! I want to use json, to send a requset to the server, and create a java backend, to querry the request, parse the data, concact a border, and stream the border back to the canvas, PIXELBYPIXELOK?
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  546. # [21:32] <moo-_-> ok it could be worse.... you could use PHP backend! :)
  547. # [21:33] <Grognardian> haha
  548. # [21:33] <tw2113> mmm php
  549. # [21:34] <Grognardian> so you think json / java is a good choice for backend for a game?
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  551. # [21:34] <Grognardian> im still a bit unclear how it all works, but just to steer me in the right direction
  552. # [21:34] <tw2113> json_decode
  553. # [21:34] <moo-_-> Grognardian: I don't see how JSON is relatd to the programming language
  554. # [21:35] <moo-_-> Grognardian: but you need something like http://socket.io for full-duplex communications
  555. # [21:35] <Grognardian> wowo socket io looks great
  556. # [21:35] <Grognardian> ok so i wont need json...
  557. # [21:35] <Grognardian> is socket io = websockets?
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  559. # [21:37] <moo-_-> Grognardian: it is abstraction library which will fall back to HTTP polling if websocket support is not found
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  561. # [21:39] <Grognardian> wow
  562. # [21:41] <Grognardian> any idea why im getting unnecssary extra white border when u scroll down here?
  563. # [21:41] <Grognardian> http://www.webdevout.net/test?01g&raw
  564. # [21:41] <moo-_-> Grognardian: try here http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/13207/multiplayer-html5-node-js-socket-io
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  566. # [21:42] <Grognardian> moo-_-, that looks great
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  589. # [22:01] <divya> ?tell danbeam woah too late :/
  590. # [22:01] <bot-t> divya, Okay.
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  596. # [22:06] <Grognardian> can anyone tell me why my site has extra white space when you make the browser window smaller and scroll down
  597. # [22:06] <Grognardian> http://jsfiddle.net/9CSx8/7/
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  605. # [22:24] <Grognardian> how do i make li elemnts fill 100% of the ul, so they auto space themselves
  606. # [22:24] <Grognardian> click here, and adjust the result window so it is skinny like a phone to see what i mean
  607. # [22:24] <Grognardian> http://jsfiddle.net/9CSx8/7/
  608. # [22:25] <Ms2ger> You want [[ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ]], and have that fill the entire width of a box, without knowing in advance how many li's you have?
  609. # [22:26] <divya> make it display: table
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  611. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> Yeah, what divya said
  612. # [22:26] <Grognardian> exactly Ms2ger but, i don know exactly how many li i have in advance
  613. # [22:26] <Grognardian> 5
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  615. # [22:26] <Grognardian> i do know *
  616. # [22:26] <Ms2ger> Then you can just use width: 20%
  617. # [22:26] <Grognardian> but, when i add a border, it kills it
  618. # [22:27] <Ms2ger> Mm
  619. # [22:27] <Grognardian> will the table method still work?
  620. # [22:27] <divya> use outline?
  621. # [22:27] <Grognardian> outline?
  622. # [22:27] <Ms2ger> You could use 19% and hope
  623. # [22:27] <Grognardian> ehh id rather try to be a bit more precies
  624. # [22:27] <Grognardian> precise
  625. # [22:27] <Ms2ger> outline might work, but then you get borders on all sides
  626. # [22:28] <Ms2ger> Table would work, I think
  627. # [22:28] <Grognardian> i dont get how outline would hlep
  628. # [22:29] <divya> outline does not add to the width
  629. # [22:29] <Grognardian> oh wow
  630. # [22:29] <Grognardian> that is like a fricken border: inside
  631. # [22:29] <Grognardian> which i always prayed for
  632. # [22:29] <Ms2ger> Well, that's box-sizing
  633. # [22:30] <Grognardian> is there any reason i shouldnt use outline?
  634. # [22:30] <Grognardian> it seems to work perfect
  635. # [22:30] <divya> there is no way to do outline on one side
  636. # [22:30] <divya> like border
  637. # [22:30] <divya> thats the only downer
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  639. # [22:31] <Ms2ger> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-ui/#box-sizing0
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  641. # [22:31] <Grognardian> it doesnt seem to be a problem for me, check it out
  642. # [22:31] <Grognardian> http://jsfiddle.net/9CSx8/7/
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  644. # [22:31] <Grognardian> it looks like its only 1px between each
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  648. # [22:39] <manuchill> divya, fyi I managed to get it working by taking the inline svg elements and use that as base64 encoded in an image data uri
  649. # [22:39] <divya> wooo awes manuchill
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  651. # [22:39] <shepazu> manuchill: I don't know what the question was, but I'm interested in the answer...
  652. # [22:41] <manuchill> shepazu, i have a html5 page with inline svg elements, but those didn't render in opera... since divya is an opera magician I consulted her and wanted to let her know I had come up with a solution
  653. # [22:43] <shepazu> manuchill: you have a url?
  654. # [22:43] <manuchill> shepazu, no not yet :(
  655. # [22:44] <shepazu> manuchill: I'd appreciate if you could make a simple example to explain what you did, maybe in a blog post
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  657. # [22:45] <shepazu> I'd be happy to retweet that from the SVG WG twitter account
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  660. # [22:47] <paul_irish> shepazu: youve been watching wahts going on with d3.js lately?
  661. # [22:47] <paul_irish> d3 is so hot right now
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  663. # [22:48] <manuchill> shepazu, sweet && thx and will let you know when i've something to show
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  665. # [22:50] <shepazu> paul_irish: actually, no, I think I need to
  666. # [22:51] <squeakytoy> Quick question. I have a 40x40px image on a canvas. But why is the image getting streched? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8183146/temp/warcraft_html5/test.html
  667. # [22:52] <paul_irish> your canvas needs height/width attrs on it
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  669. # [22:53] <squeakytoy> css isnt sufficient? hm
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  671. # [22:53] <divya> squeakytoy: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Canvas_tutorial/Using_images you need to specify output width/height afaik
  672. # [22:53] <squeakytoy> oh, the css streches the canvas
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  674. # [22:54] <squeakytoy> thanks
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