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  1. # Session Start: Mon Oct 10 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
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  10. # [00:10] <Grognardian> can anyone tell me what languages i would need to duplicate something like this
  11. # [00:11] <Grognardian> http://www.justmakegames.com/
  12. # [00:11] <Grognardian> see the Envolve chat on the very bottom
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  20. # [00:22] <purebryan> greetings; up until this point i've written php/ajax/html5 by hand with vim -- looking for a RAD with low barrier to entry, and not finding a qualitative review in google search results... Suggestions?
  21. # [00:25] <dpogue> Zencoding for vim is pretty useful - http://mattn.github.com/zencoding-vim/
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  26. # [00:40] <purebryan> zencoding looks pretty reasonable, will give it a go. is that david pogue by chance? ;)
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  28. # [00:42] <dpogue> nope, just someone who is constantly confused for him ;)
  29. # [00:42] <purebryan> well thxmuch all the same my friend..
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  32. # [00:46] <JonathanNeal> hello
  33. # [00:50] <Grognardian> anyone have any ideas why these div gets bigger than its container when you ctrl + scroll
  34. # [00:50] <Grognardian> http://www.webdevout.net/test?01j&raw
  35. # [00:50] <Grognardian> you have to make your browser skinny, like a phone, then ctrl+scroll up
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  38. # [00:53] <JonathanNeal> I'll take a look at it right now.
  39. # [00:54] <JonathanNeal> I wanna make it so the menu goes horizontal on the bottom, Grognardian?
  40. # [00:54] <Grognardian> yeah
  41. # [00:54] <Grognardian> horizontal menu, then ctrl scrolll
  42. # [00:54] <Grognardian> as big as you can
  43. # [00:54] <JonathanNeal> Grognardian: ...
  44. # [00:54] <Grognardian> im using outline, not border
  45. # [00:54] <JonathanNeal> CTRL+SCROLL on most browsers
  46. # [00:54] <JonathanNeal> acts like zooming
  47. # [00:54] <Grognardian> right
  48. # [00:54] <JonathanNeal> That's a feature of the browser.
  49. # [00:55] <Grognardian> does the outline get bigger than the container its in for u?
  50. # [00:56] <JonathanNeal> I could send you aa screenshot.
  51. # [00:56] <Grognardian> ok
  52. # [00:56] <Grognardian> ill send u one also
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  54. # [00:57] <Grognardian> http://i.imgur.com/nYMUu.png
  55. # [00:57] <Grognardian> see how the outline is coming outside of the div
  56. # [00:58] <frank_salim> can any SVG in HTMl gurus tell me why e.target.parentNode.removeChild(e.target) works in mozilla but not chrome if the child is an SVG use element?
  57. # [01:00] <JonathanNeal> Grognardian: http://imgur.com/LzXe4
  58. # [01:00] <Pomax> frank_salim: what's the error in the dev tools?
  59. # [01:00] <JonathanNeal> That's from Chrome.
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  63. # [01:00] <shepazu> frank_salim: there's a weird thing with <use>
  64. # [01:00] <shepazu> try
  65. # [01:01] <frank_salim> Uncaught TypeError: Object #<SVGElementInstance> has no method 'removeChild'
  66. # [01:01] <shepazu> var el = evt.target;
  67. # [01:01] <shepazu> if ( el.correspondingUseElement ) {
  68. # [01:01] <shepazu> el = el.correspondingUseElement;
  69. # [01:01] <shepazu> }
  70. # [01:01] <frank_salim> is mozilla correct according to spec? is chrome?
  71. # [01:04] <frank_salim> shepazu: yes, that works. do you know if that is noncomliance on one of the browser's part? an artifact of being in the HTML document?
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  73. # [01:04] <shepazu> frank_salim: I think that Mozilla is technically incorrect, but I also think that their behavior is more intuitive, and we should change the SVG spec
  74. # [01:05] <frank_salim> shepazu: ok, thanks
  75. # [01:05] <Grognardian> sorry JonathanNeal
  76. # [01:05] <Grognardian> i sent you the wrong one
  77. # [01:05] <Grognardian> http://jsfiddle.net/9CSx8/32/
  78. # [01:05] <Grognardian> move the result window to be skinny like phone, then ctrl scroll al the way up
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  80. # [01:07] <JonathanNeal> Looks the same as it did before on mine.
  81. # [01:07] <JonathanNeal> I'm sorry if that doesn't help.
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  83. # [01:07] <Grognardian> is the little chat buble gon?
  84. # [01:07] <Grognardian> and a square now
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  92. # [01:21] <Grognardian> why does this a get larget than the Div its in when you ctrl+scroll up?
  93. # [01:22] <Grognardian> http://jsfiddle.net/9CSx8/33/
  94. # [01:22] <Grognardian> (you have to make the result window skinny like a phone for horiz menu)
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  102. # [02:10] <Pomax> Grognardian: portrait vs landscape orientation
  103. # [02:10] <Pomax> if height>width --> screen is considered in portrait mode.
  104. # [02:11] <Grognardian> what Pomax ?
  105. # [02:11] <Grognardian> i understand portrait and landscape
  106. # [02:12] <Pomax> your CSS has different menu styling for portrait and landscape modes.
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  108. # [02:12] <Pomax> what's the problem you see?
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  111. # [02:27] <Grognardian> Pomax, when its in portrait, and u ctrl+scroll all the way up
  112. # [02:27] <Grognardian> to biggest text
  113. # [02:27] <Grognardian> the text border gets bigger than the div its in
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  118. # [02:30] <Pomax> okay, there's where I don't follow you. what text? =)
  119. # [02:30] <Pomax> I don't have anything to scroll in this jsfiddle
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  121. # [02:31] <Grognardian> did u resize the Result window to be in portrait mode?
  122. # [02:31] <Grognardian> and then u just click anywhere in it, and hold ctrl and scroll ur mousewheel
  123. # [02:31] <Grognardian> to make text bigger
  124. # [02:32] <Pomax> okay, it helps if you say that to begin with...
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  126. # [02:33] <Grognardian> Grognardian> move the result window to be skinny like phone, then ctrl scroll al the way up
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  128. # [02:33] <Pomax> that's not ctrl-scrollwheel related, but "text increase" related. It looks like the div simply unable to contain the first letter of each menu item in your nav, thus forcing the jsfiddle's div to accomodate
  129. # [02:34] <Pomax> "ctrl scroll" does not, for me at least, means "control + mouse scrollwheel"
  130. # [02:34] <Pomax> *mean
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  132. # [02:34] <Pomax> if the problem is from increasing text size, it's better to say "increase text size" instead
  133. # [02:34] <Pomax> (plus I'm on a laptop atm without a mouse, I don't even have a scrollwheel atm)
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  135. # [02:35] <Grognardian> kk good point
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  175. # [04:55] <Pomax> wow
  176. # [04:55] <Pomax> and then I only just now found out everything supports document.querySelectorAll
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  195. # [05:34] <benv> html5!
  196. # [05:34] <benv> i need you
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  239. # [07:24] <YamahaAlex37> what programming language do you guys think engines like "html5 game maker" are made in?
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  241. # [07:27] <YamahaAlex37> do you think engines like http://impactjs.com/ are also made in html/css/js?
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  246. # [07:37] <tw2113> YamahaAlex37 given that the url has "js" in it, probably
  247. # [07:38] <YamahaAlex37> im just wondering if its posisble to make a html/css/js engine using a more formal language
  248. # [07:40] <tw2113> like what?
  249. # [07:40] <tw2113> just curious :D
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  254. # [07:43] <YamahaAlex37> i dono i heard html5 game maker uses c++
  255. # [07:44] <tw2113> i wouldn't doubt it being possible then :D
  256. # [07:45] <T-Co> er
  257. # [07:45] <tw2113> *shrug*
  258. # [07:45] <divya> g nacl chrome @ YamahaAlex37
  259. # [07:45] <divya> oops
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  261. # [07:46] <divya> ?g nacl chrome @ YamahaAlex37
  262. # [07:46] <bot-t> YamahaAlex37, NativeClientInGoogleChrome - nativeclient - A preview of Native ... - http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/wiki/NativeClientInGoogleChrome
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  264. # [07:49] <YamahaAlex37> divya, im not sure what thats about
  265. # [07:50] <divya> c++ on the web
  266. # [07:50] <YamahaAlex37> do you think it would be more practical to write an html5/css/js engine with another engine besides html/css/hs
  267. # [07:51] <divya> no
  268. # [07:51] <divya> or w/e i dont know
  269. # [07:51] <divya> chrome is trying
  270. # [07:51] <divya> so you could read up on their efforts
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  273. # [08:04] <shepazu> divya++
  274. # [08:04] <divya> :)
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  324. # [09:33] <ExpFist> Man every step of the way HTML5 seems to give problems
  325. # [09:33] <ExpFist> Even looping audio doesn't work properly
  326. # [09:36] <moo-_-> ExpFist: thank you for your feedback. How can we help you? :)
  327. # [09:36] <ExpFist> Hahaha
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  329. # [09:36] <ExpFist> Just venting :|
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  331. # [09:36] <ExpFist> Unless you know how to get audio to loop seemlessly
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  333. # [09:39] <paul_irish> <audio onended="this.play()"
  334. # [09:40] <ExpFist> I've tried this this.element.addEventListener('ended',function(){self.shouldLoop();},false);
  335. # [09:40] <ExpFist> To replay, still has a silence between plays though
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  363. # [10:27] <keithclarkcouk> Hi
  364. # [10:28] <keithclarkcouk> has anyone got an good ARIA examples? I'm looking for something to mimic a <select>
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  366. # [10:32] <drublic> keithclakcouk, y mimic a select, if it is a select?
  367. # [10:33] <drublic> keithclarkcouk
  368. # [10:33] <drublic> sry
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  370. # [10:39] <keithclarkcouk> it's legacy code so i'm hoping to enrich what's there with some aria attributes
  371. # [10:40] <keithclarkcouk> long term I will address the issue when the UI gets a overhaul
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  374. # [10:41] <keithclarkcouk> hoping I can drop some ARIA attributes into the markup for now
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  376. # [10:42] <keithclarkcouk> but finding examples is really hard
  377. # [10:42] <divya> keithclarkcouk: have u checked out jkiss's research on aria?
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  379. # [10:43] <keithclarkcouk> divya: oh, do you have any links?
  380. # [10:43] <divya> g accessible culture aria
  381. # [10:43] <divya> errr
  382. # [10:43] <divya> ?g accessible culture aria
  383. # [10:43] <bot-t> divya, HTML5, ARIA Roles, and Screen Readers in ... - Accessible Culture - http://www.accessibleculture.org/articles/2011/04/html5-aria-2011/
  384. # [10:44] <dissipate> is diveintohtml5.org down?
  385. # [10:44] <drublic> dissipate: since thursday…
  386. # [10:45] <dissipate> that sucks. :(
  387. # [10:45] <divya> there are mirrors from what I hear
  388. # [10:46] <divya> paul_irish: can you ask the mods to change the topic from diveintohtml5.org to a mirror?
  389. # [10:46] <manuchill> here's one: http://diveintohtml5.info/
  390. # [10:46] <keithclarkcouk> divya: that seems to cover landmark roles - i'm looking for states and properties so I can create accessible UI controls
  391. # [10:46] <divya> keithclarkcouk: i think he has an article on tabs too
  392. # [10:46] <divya> it has a few posts on aria
  393. # [10:47] <keithclarkcouk> divya: i'll have a look through the site. thanks :)
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  397. # [11:05] <decthomas> divya: tnx again for your presentation at Fronteers, was awesome !
  398. # [11:06] <divya> decthomas: my pleasure!
  399. # [11:06] <dirkpennings> RT @decthomas :)
  400. # [11:06] <decthomas> were you able to stay awake friday afternoon? ;)
  401. # [11:06] <divya> you all should have introduced yourselves
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  403. # [11:06] <divya> decthomas: yep i am in some travel jetlag nightmare
  404. # [11:06] <divya> or i am an insomniac
  405. # [11:06] <decthomas> heard you and Nicolas ditched @seutje :p
  406. # [11:07] <decthomas> I did introduce myself
  407. # [11:07] <divya> o shiit
  408. # [11:07] <divya> clearly i was drunk then
  409. # [11:07] <decthomas> I'm the guy from Belgium, we were talking over lunch friday with Nicolas
  410. # [11:07] <decthomas> haha
  411. # [11:07] <divya> ohh i remember
  412. # [11:07] <divya> :))
  413. # [11:08] <decthomas> k :p
  414. # [11:08] <decthomas> are you back home now or in Oslo for the frontendConf ?
  415. # [11:08] <divya> i am in india actually
  416. # [11:09] <divya> decthomas: you were the one sent by your company that asked you to write a report on the conf?
  417. # [11:09] <decthomas> oh damn :p big time difference !
  418. # [11:09] <divya> hahah yes
  419. # [11:09] <decthomas> yep, that's me
  420. # [11:09] <divya> cool so I do remember :P
  421. # [11:09] <decthomas> honoured !
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  424. # [11:10] <decthomas> will you be attending mobilism in May 2012?
  425. # [11:10] <divya> decthomas: unlikely :/
  426. # [11:11] <decthomas> hm okay, hope we'll be able to talk again, was nice meeting you
  427. # [11:11] <divya> yes likewise
  428. # [11:11] <decthomas> tnx
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  430. # [11:15] <shwetank> divya: till when are you in india?
  431. # [11:15] <divya> shwetank: till nov 4th
  432. # [11:16] <shwetank> cool, im coming to chennai this weekend for a conf btw :)
  433. # [11:16] <divya> o cool
  434. # [11:17] <shwetank> i hope the weather there isnt too hot
  435. # [11:18] <divya> hahahha
  436. # [11:18] <divya> ?weather chennai
  437. # [11:18] <bot-t> divya, Chennai, Tamil Nadu - Time: 2:43pm Monday (IST), Weather: Clear, 33°C / 91°F
  438. # [11:19] <shwetank> oh, ok .... not too bad
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  440. # [11:29] <seutje> decthomas, divya: I'm easily ditched :(
  441. # [11:29] <decthomas> apparently
  442. # [11:29] <decthomas> was she drunk? ;)
  443. # [11:30] <divya> seutje: ya right
  444. # [11:30] <divya> me and necolas were with you the whole of sat!!
  445. # [11:30] <divya> or most of it
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  447. # [11:31] <seutje> divya: yea, guess u did make up for it :)
  448. # [11:31] <decthomas> you stayed sat as well? what's there to do in Amsterdam besides the confs? ;)
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  451. # [11:34] <tigerpaw> get high
  452. # [11:34] <divya> gross tigerpaw
  453. # [11:34] <divya> decthomas: i went to the market!
  454. # [11:34] <tigerpaw> ganja is awesome
  455. # [11:34] <divya> omg i was so jealoussss
  456. # [11:34] <tigerpaw> you're gross
  457. # [11:34] <divya> eeeeeeeee
  458. # [11:34] <divya> i dont like the look of coffeeshops
  459. # [11:34] <divya> so seedy
  460. # [11:34] <decthomas> don't get the whole coffeshop thing either, but that's me :)
  461. # [11:35] <seutje> but they come is all shapes and sizes!!
  462. # [11:35] <decthomas> wasn't it raining like the entire day?
  463. # [11:35] <decthomas> everything does seutje ;)
  464. # [11:35] <seutje> pretty much
  465. # [11:35] <divya> yeah it was :'(
  466. # [11:35] <seutje> on/off every 5 mins
  467. # [11:35] <decthomas> hehe
  468. # [11:35] <seutje> and I wasn't even packing an umbrella
  469. # [11:36] <divya> ya it was terrible
  470. # [11:36] <seutje> at least it wasn't hailing...
  471. # [11:37] <decthomas> sounds like a really fun day !
  472. # [11:37] <decthomas> I drove back home friday night
  473. # [11:37] <divya> well it was because there were the marketssss
  474. # [11:37] <divya> so manu mushrooms
  475. # [11:37] <divya> many even
  476. # [11:37] <seutje> had some awesome apple pie
  477. # [11:37] <divya> and cheeeeeeese
  478. # [11:37] <divya> OMG
  479. # [11:37] <decthomas> lol
  480. # [11:37] <divya> cheeeese
  481. # [11:39] <decthomas> any conferences in the near future you are speaking at divya ?
  482. # [11:39] <divya> decthomas: there is one in seattle
  483. # [11:39] <divya> and 2 more next year but no deets yet
  484. # [11:39] <seutje> season's running to an end, innit?
  485. # [11:40] <divya> hahahah
  486. # [11:40] <divya> yes
  487. # [11:40] <decthomas> hm guess seattle's a little to far ^^
  488. # [11:41] <divya> :)
  489. # [11:42] <tigerpaw> omg
  490. # [11:42] <tigerpaw> steve jobs died!
  491. # [11:43] <decthomas> no 'ffing way
  492. # [11:44] <tigerpaw> yea dude, damn
  493. # [11:44] <tigerpaw> oh, last week. nvm old newz
  494. # [11:45] <dirkpennings> which browser can properly show me the css3 exclusions?
  495. # [11:46] <dirkpennings> tried Chrome dev but was not able to succeed..
  496. # [11:46] <divya> IE10
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  498. # [11:47] <decthomas> anyone using chrome canary build?
  499. # [11:48] <tigerpaw> what's the best browser for os x? that doesn't leak mem
  500. # [11:48] <tigerpaw> safari leaks too much
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  502. # [11:48] <ggarri> hello
  503. # [11:48] <ggarri> who could advice to me a html framework ?
  504. # [11:48] <divya> opera
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  506. # [11:49] <decthomas> tigerpaw: I just switched from firefox to chrome
  507. # [11:49] <shwetank> opera or opera next (but i work for opera, so i'll say that! :) )
  508. # [11:49] <tigerpaw> sick of google tho
  509. # [11:49] <tigerpaw> does opera still pull all pages through a central server or w/e?
  510. # [11:50] <shwetank> nope, only if you use a special setting called 'turbo mode'
  511. # [11:50] <shwetank> thats for special cases where you are on a vert slow connection ... it will use a central server to compress the page and give it to you so it loads faster
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  514. # [11:54] <tigerpaw> anyone use camino?
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  521. # [12:11] <dirkpennings> divya, IE10 can show the exclusions, really? :)
  522. # [12:11] <divya> dirkpennings: i thought there was a basic implementation. I got no win 8 to test tho
  523. # [12:15] <dirkpennings> divya: is it the only way to test it? will look into the win8 option, thanks :)
  524. # [12:16] <divya> dirkpennings: yes the IE10 preview only works in win8
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  527. # [12:37] <dirkpennings> divya: haha yeah ok, I meant that IE10 is the only way to test the exclusions? haha :)
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  538. # [12:58] <divya> http://raven.io/developers.html :/
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  558. # [13:24] <intellilogic> if I want to open a link target="_new", what's the new standard for that?
  559. # [13:26] <intellilogic> Oh, aparently you just remove the underscore
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  562. # [13:35] <decthomas> intellilogic: target="_blank"
  563. # [13:47] <intellilogic> Does anyone know if there is a photoshop channel?
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  567. # [14:01] <OzDave_mbp> I can help with some shloppie flop questions if you are stuckzorz
  568. # [14:02] <OzDave_mbp> If you just prefer tutorials from the web, the keyword hongkiat has a good whack
  569. # [14:03] <OzDave_mbp> http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&cp=9&gs_id=x&xhr=t&q=hongkiat+photoshop&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=hongkiat+&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=63edab47b96a2d8&biw=1023&bih=485
  570. # [14:03] <OzDave_mbp> scuse my lack of using tiny url
  571. # [14:05] <moo-_-> OzDave_mbp: you are not making sense
  572. # [14:05] <OzDave_mbp> seriously?
  573. # [14:05] <moo-_-> yes
  574. # [14:05] <OzDave_mbp> did you fall on your head some ;P
  575. # [14:05] <moo-_-> ah
  576. # [14:05] <moo-_-> sorry
  577. # [14:05] <moo-_-> I did miss the photoshop part earlier
  578. # [14:06] <OzDave_mbp> ahh np m8
  579. # [14:07] * OzDave_mbp digs out photoshop 3.0 manual for a laugh
  580. # [14:08] <OzDave_mbp> ooh filters! lense flare (cough)
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  585. # [14:25] <moo-_-> OzDave_mbp: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail181.html
  586. # [14:26] <OzDave_mbp> Havent seen a home star runner in ages, the yanky humour falls short on this skippy
  587. # [14:29] <moo-_-> but it has a lens flare!
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  589. # [14:32] <OzDave_mbp> and plastic wrap
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  637. # [15:44] <tantek> greetings - anyone here coming to or already at Web 2 Expo NYC? (#w2e)
  638. # [15:45] <tantek> In case you're in New York, there may still be a few tickets available: web2expo.com
  639. # [15:46] <tantek> I'm speaking tomorrow at 11:25am in Conference Room E at the Sheraton on "HTML(5) - Now" - http://plancast.com/p/7yeo
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  642. # [15:49] <OzDave_mbp> intellilogic: did you find enough shloppie flop content?
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  649. # [15:59] <JonathanNeal> Hi!
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  653. # [16:05] <JonathanNeal> http://html5doctor.com/blockquote-q-cite/ - trying to figure out the proper usage of citing for blockquotes.
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  699. # [17:11] <Michael> paul_irish: Best custom scroll bar?
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  701. # [17:12] <OzDave_mbp> are they consistent with the browsers yet. years ago it was a frankenstein mess with IE and some CSS
  702. # [17:13] <Epeli> A bounty for your guys! http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7690038/which-android-tablets-are-usable-for-testing-javascript-heavy-web-applications
  703. # [17:13] <OzDave_mbp> scrollbar-face-color : #FFUUUU :P
  704. # [17:14] <Michael> Yeah but our method is "let's recreate what OSes spent lots of time perfecting"
  705. # [17:14] <Michael> So it has to be totally custom looking
  706. # [17:14] <Michael> There are no up/down areas for example
  707. # [17:14] <OzDave_mbp> over browsers and tablets?
  708. # [17:14] <Michael> Personally I don't dig customizing form elements because it brings the user away from what they're used to
  709. # [17:14] <Michael> yep
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  711. # [17:15] <OzDave_mbp> You might have to make your own for a uniformity
  712. # [17:15] <Michael> yeah :/
  713. # [17:15] <OzDave_mbp> yukko! :)
  714. # [17:15] <Michael> yep!
  715. # [17:15] <Michael> lol
  716. # [17:15] <OzDave_mbp> hehe
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  718. # [17:16] <Michael> We have a custom scroll bar that we use globally but we're finding that it is buggy with more complex containers
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  720. # [17:16] <OzDave_mbp> Irregular jitter when scrolling
  721. # [17:16] <OzDave_mbp> almost a snap to in parts
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  723. # [17:17] <Michael> All elements have to be floated left etc
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  725. # [17:17] <Michael> Just weird rules that I'd rather not deal with
  726. # [17:17] <OzDave_mbp> even an overflow div has pixel differences over fartysocks and safari
  727. # [17:17] <Michael> lol
  728. # [17:18] <Michael> I was looking at tinyscrollbar but the code itself is very questionable
  729. # [17:18] <Michael> Sloppy
  730. # [17:18] <OzDave_mbp> Is it essential to the User interface, a show stopper?
  731. # [17:18] <Michael> Yes
  732. # [17:18] <Michael> This is Disney :D
  733. # [17:18] <OzDave_mbp> ewww! I was a tweener there years ago
  734. # [17:18] <Michael> Oh?
  735. # [17:19] <Michael> And I love it here re: ewww :P
  736. # [17:19] <Michael> Been here going on 4 years
  737. # [17:19] <OzDave_mbp> Sydney Australia kippax Street, the era of ferntree gully
  738. # [17:19] <Michael> Oh wow
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  740. # [17:19] <OzDave_mbp> so old it was pre ICQ
  741. # [17:19] <Michael> That's old school :D
  742. # [17:20] <Michael> That was like prodigy days
  743. # [17:20] <OzDave_mbp> you know it :)
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  745. # [17:20] <OzDave_mbp> colourists used SGI machines, Octanes and painted the cells from a palette
  746. # [17:20] <Michael> The old SGI O2s right?
  747. # [17:20] <OzDave_mbp> The teal or blue blob like ones
  748. # [17:21] <Michael> yeah those were O2s
  749. # [17:21] <Michael> The blue ones
  750. # [17:21] <OzDave_mbp> ahh ok
  751. # [17:21] <OzDave_mbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Octane
  752. # [17:21] <Michael> haha yepo
  753. # [17:21] <OzDave_mbp> hehe
  754. # [17:21] <OzDave_mbp> some kids had those flat purple indigos or something
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  756. # [17:22] <OzDave_mbp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indigo²_and_Challenge_M
  757. # [17:22] <Michael> I was just learning HTML when those came out I think
  758. # [17:22] <Michael> That was like 94-95
  759. # [17:23] <OzDave_mbp> yeah I had a client back then tell me he needed a clear colour, after a little while it turned out to be the alpha channel in a gif 89a
  760. # [17:23] <OzDave_mbp> no plugin was for photoshop 2 then so you had to use some freaky little 42kilobyte program that did the job
  761. # [17:25] <OzDave_mbp> I used fetch to upload my content and simple text to write HTML 0.9 lol
  762. # [17:25] <OzDave_mbp> bbedit was a little later on
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  764. # [17:26] <Michael> lol
  765. # [17:26] <Michael> I remember thinking CoffeeCup and it's prefab scripts were the bomb
  766. # [17:26] <Michael> "OMG look at that status text scroll! People will love this for years to come!"
  767. # [17:27] <OzDave_mbp> hehe
  768. # [17:32] <OzDave_mbp> cgi-bin perl scripts and chmod and chown nightmares was fun back then
  769. # [17:32] <OzDave_mbp> form processing was a black art in perls syntax without online help tutes that are prolific today
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  771. # [17:33] <OzDave_mbp> an if or while event to grab them dynamically
  772. # [17:34] <Michael> All those custom query string parsers in perl
  773. # [17:34] <OzDave_mbp> aye
  774. # [17:35] <OzDave_mbp> doing regular expressions to find @ symbols etc
  775. # [17:35] <Michael> yeah lol
  776. # [17:35] <OzDave_mbp> haha flashbacks
  777. # [17:35] <OzDave_mbp> pixelshim crapola!
  778. # [17:35] <Michael> And flat file guestbook databases lol
  779. # [17:35] <OzDave_mbp> 1 x 1 1 colour gif with an alpha channel was the most powerful pixel
  780. # [17:36] <OzDave_mbp> ahh write to file woo!
  781. # [17:36] <Michael> lol
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  783. # [17:36] <OzDave_mbp> good times!
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  785. # [17:37] <OzDave_mbp> netscape navigator gold was one of my favs back then
  786. # [17:38] <Michael> lol I remember that ship wheel. It spelled freedom from MS
  787. # [17:39] <OzDave_mbp> aye! and it had a little editor
  788. # [17:39] <Michael> And it had the built in
  789. # [17:39] <Michael> yeah lol
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  791. # [17:39] <OzDave_mbp> make some 14.4 modem sounds with this image http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/GiZZoR/NetGold.png
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  793. # [17:39] <OzDave_mbp> maybe 28.8
  794. # [17:39] <Michael> sweet!
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  797. # [17:40] <OzDave_mbp> boing boing boing screeeeeeeee boing
  798. # [17:40] <Michael> Your tools are <img> <br> <p> and <marquee> - have fun
  799. # [17:40] <OzDave_mbp> ahref everything!
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  801. # [17:41] <OzDave_mbp> I used to use sorenson video codec back then, it was soo good
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  803. # [17:42] <OzDave_mbp> You could load a page faster as well by shrinking the image 10 - 20% and using the width and height tags to bring it up in size
  804. # [17:42] <OzDave_mbp> back then it all counted
  805. # [17:42] <OzDave_mbp> If you did it right, the image had no visible jagged pixel areas
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  809. # [17:50] <OzDave_mbp> take care its late in kanga world
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  811. # [17:53] <JonathanNeal> Are <p id="a"> and <p id='a'> both awesome?
  812. # [17:54] <Velmont> <p id=a>
  813. # [17:54] <Velmont> awsomest
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  819. # [18:00] <JonathanNeal> Velmont: bah
  820. # [18:00] <Michael> JonathanNeal: remember this one? http://bd.vg/
  821. # [18:00] <JonathanNeal> no support for spaces.
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  823. # [18:00] <JonathanNeal> Michael: these are not the rolls you're looking for.
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  902. # [19:58] <shepazu> paul_irish: are you coming to W3Conf?
  903. # [19:58] <tantek> hey shepazu
  904. # [19:58] <shepazu> hey, tantek
  905. # [19:58] <paul_irish> shepazu: yeah im coming
  906. # [19:59] <shepazu> paul_irish: then register! you want an engraved invitation?
  907. # [19:59] <paul_irish> ill register, bro
  908. # [19:59] <shepazu> :)
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  920. # [20:11] <shepazu> tantek: writing a reply now… kinda took the weekend off
  921. # [20:12] * shepazu writing a simple SVG game as a tutorial for SVG
  922. # [20:12] <tantek> shepazu - thanks!
  923. # [20:13] <tantek> btw - if you are anyone else is in NYC at Web2Expo - my HTML5 talk is tomorrow at 11:25am: http://plancast.com/p/7yeo
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  950. # [20:53] <JonathanNeal> do any of you guys remember how to get audio playing on iPad/iPhone devices in Safari?
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  953. # [20:56] <shwetank> does it need anything special than regular safari? (I dont have an iphone/ipad)
  954. # [20:56] <shwetank> FWIW http://developer.apple.com/library/safari/#documentation/AudioVideo/Conceptual/Using_HTML5_Audio_Video/Introduction/Introduction.html
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  958. # [21:03] <trumpetmic> favorite data table js?
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  961. # [21:07] <JonathanNeal> shwetank: i wanted to control it with javascript, yes.
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  963. # [21:07] <tantek> JonathanNeal - you mentioned blockquotes and cite - presumably you've seen this: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Cite_element
  964. # [21:08] <JonathanNeal> ah the wiki
  965. # [21:08] <tw2113> afternoon ladies and gentlemen
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  968. # [21:11] <shwetank> JonathanNeal: their dev site has only stuff like this http://bit.ly/pw7lJ9 .... you might find this usefull too http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/custom-html5-video-player-with-css3-and-jquery/
  969. # [21:12] <JonathanNeal> Yea, for some reason none of them were playing. Something else must be wrong.
  970. # [21:12] <JonathanNeal> I used to do it all the time.
  971. # [21:12] <JonathanNeal> But even my old examples weren't working on either my iPod or iPad.
  972. # [21:12] <shwetank> strange
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  977. # [21:17] <JonathanNeal> It's very strange.
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  979. # [21:17] <JonathanNeal> play() won't run in <script> but it will in href=javascript:
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  991. # [21:59] <phrearch> hey
  992. # [21:59] <phrearch> anyone tested the fullscreen api in webkit lately?
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  994. # [22:00] <phrearch> i got some weird artifacts when combined with codemirror2
  995. # [22:00] <phrearch> the mouse position seems to be inaccurate
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  1000. # [22:10] <YamahaAlex37> does html5shim work for ie8 and below?
  1001. # [22:11] <YamahaAlex37> <!--[if lt IE 9]><script src="http://html5shiv.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/html5.js"></script>[endif]-->
  1002. # [22:11] <YamahaAlex37> will that work for ie8 and below
  1003. # [22:15] <tw2113> yes
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  1012. # [22:33] <paul_irish> http://gitorious.org/dbusmenu/kdelibs/blobs/master/khtml/css/cssproperties.c#line703 if anyone wanted to know konqueror's support of css props
  1013. # [22:33] <paul_irish> cc Peter-
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  1017. # [22:35] <eighty4> hey cool. I guess my last project would look the same in konqueror then
  1018. # [22:36] <eighty4> Oh wait no, it wouldn't no support for column-count?
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