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  1. # Session Start: Sat Oct 15 00:00:00 2011
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  26. # [00:46] <BrianBlakely> Any way to get a data persistence for a bookmarklet?
  27. # [00:46] <BrianBlakely> localStorage is tied to domain
  28. # [00:47] <BrianBlakely> So I'm scrood
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  30. # [00:52] <danielfilho> BrianBlakely: sqlite?
  31. # [00:55] <BrianBlakely> danielfilho: Deprecated and not supported in Gecko :/
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  33. # [00:55] <BrianBlakely> If it isn't tied to a domain, though, that might be awesome
  34. # [00:55] <BrianBlakely> For some use cases
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  36. # [00:55] <N_> hi, how can i change the gradiente fill with onmouseover function?
  37. # [00:55] <BrianBlakely> Oh
  38. # [00:55] <N_> *gradient
  39. # [00:56] <N_> <set attributeName="fill" from="lightgrey" to="red"
  40. # [00:56] <N_> begin="mouseover" end="mouseout"/>
  41. # [00:56] <BrianBlakely> It uses same-origin policy danielfilho like other techniques :(
  42. # [00:56] <N_> is not working here
  43. # [00:56] <danielfilho> BrianBlakely: I was checking that out right now :(
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  45. # [00:56] <danielfilho> how big is the info to be stored?
  46. # [00:56] <BrianBlakely> Guess I just need to make a browser extension, and the bookmarklet can't save data
  47. # [00:57] <BrianBlakely> danielfilho: very small
  48. # [00:57] <danielfilho> hm, good way.
  49. # [00:57] <BrianBlakely> Yeah, I think it's all I got. I'm not going to maintain a serverside component for this project...
  50. # [00:57] <danielfilho> but I don't think it's too "usable". is that for you/small group of people?
  51. # [00:57] <N_> anyone is reading me? o_o
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  53. # [00:59] <N_> ????
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  55. # [00:59] <BrianBlakely> N_: This is SVG, correct?
  56. # [00:59] <N_> yes
  57. # [01:00] <N_> why this code is not working?
  58. # [01:00] <BrianBlakely> N_: I don't write a lot of SVG, opting to use Raphael
  59. # [01:01] <BrianBlakely> It's just easier until support becomes a little more level
  60. # [01:01] <danielfilho> N_: this might help you http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/graphics/svggradientbackgroundmaker/default.html
  61. # [01:01] <N_> i'm with the code 90% made, need just this function
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  65. # [01:03] <paul_irish> grrr IE closed my ticket http://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/details/687834/getcomputedstyle-doesnt-implement-2nd-argument-pseudoelt
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  68. # [01:04] <paul_irish> BrianBlakely: jdrop
  69. # [01:05] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish: Wow, it's free
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  71. # [01:05] <BrianBlakely> Thanks man
  72. # [01:06] <BrianBlakely> Hey, does anyone remember the name of that kick-ass CSS Animation library that combined CSS and Canvas in this one demo and was really really fast?
  73. # [01:06] <BrianBlakely> Going crazy looking for it
  74. # [01:06] <paul_irish> whatd it look like
  75. # [01:06] <BrianBlakely> The CSS+Canvas demo looked like a ribbon running out in front of you, like many music visualizers
  76. # [01:07] <BrianBlakely> The other demos I'm a bit fuzzy on
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  78. # [01:07] <paul_irish> hmm i do not recall anything like that
  79. # [01:09] <BrianBlakely> Thank you Adium transcripts!
  80. # [01:09] <BrianBlakely> http://minimal.be/lab/Sprite3D/
  81. # [01:09] <BrianBlakely> This was the specific demo I spoke of
  82. # [01:09] <BrianBlakely> http://minimal.be/lab/Sprite3D/examples/canvasExample.html
  83. # [01:11] <BrianBlakely> So perforrrrrmant
  84. # [01:12] <paul_irish> hot
  85. # [01:13] <BrianBlakely> Bah, only 14fps on iPhone 4. Cannot wait to see the diff on my 4S later :D
  86. # [01:14] <BrianBlakely> Checking out, lates!
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  88. # [01:14] <tw2113> 15fps!
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  95. # [01:21] <Jayflux> paul_irish what was in the ticket they closed?
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  102. # [01:31] <JonathanNeal> If anyone could help me, I'm trying to figure out why this isn't playing in Firefox http://sandbox.thewikies.com/note/
  103. # [01:32] <JonathanNeal> It's a "learn to read sheet music one note at a time" app I wrote in HTML5.
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  108. # [01:34] <danielfilho> gotta go
  109. # [01:34] <danielfilho> see you ppl :)
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  128. # [02:05] <N_> how can i set a target in evt.target.setAttribute ?
  129. # [02:05] <N_> what is the semantic?
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  131. # [02:06] <N_> o_o
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  133. # [02:07] <N_> with google I made it work
  134. # [02:07] <N_> onmouseover="evt.target.setAttribute('style', 'fill:url(#GradientePortfolioAmarelo);');"
  135. # [02:07] <N_> onmouseout="evt.target.setAttribute('style','fill:url(#GradientePorftolioAzul);');"
  136. # [02:08] <N_> how can I set a target in html 5?
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  138. # [02:10] <N_> ??????????????????????
  139. # [02:10] <N_> o_o
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  142. # [02:11] <N_> ¬¬
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  144. # [02:20] <thomasdavis> Hey guys, I'm working on a weekend project, looking for someone to colab with
  145. # [02:20] <thomasdavis> Any takers?
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  179. # [03:21] <tfitts> if you are using a page with a manifest and running in cached mode is it still possible to use ajax to load data from the web?
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  182. # [03:30] <YamahaAlex37> does anyone have resolution larger than 1920x1080 to test a site?
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  193. # [03:53] <tfitts> YamahaAlex37: I do
  194. # [03:54] <YamahaAlex37> ok tfitts thanks one second
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  200. # [04:00] <YamahaAlex37> argh! so frustrated
  201. # [04:00] <YamahaAlex37> tfitts, i had some1 test, and they had super long scroll bar
  202. # [04:00] <YamahaAlex37> i tried to fix, but now its worse :/
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  204. # [04:01] <YamahaAlex37> do u have any idea how to get this height top stop at the bottom of someones browser height
  205. # [04:01] <YamahaAlex37> http://jsfiddle.net/ShrsW/6/
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  207. # [04:02] <tfitts> that has no scroll bars. Am I supposed to save it and open it as it's own page?
  208. # [04:05] <tfitts> I mean, it's like 1/4 of my screen when I open it in jsfiddle
  209. # [04:07] <YamahaAlex37> tfitts, sry, i guess i had overflow hidden on
  210. # [04:07] <YamahaAlex37> but if u middle click and move ur mouse down
  211. # [04:07] <YamahaAlex37> u dont need to open it in a new windo
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  213. # [04:07] <YamahaAlex37> u will see that it goes way beyond where it should
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  215. # [04:08] <tfitts> ok, I see that
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  217. # [04:10] <N_> o_o
  218. # [04:11] <N_> how can I set a target in svg?
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  225. # [04:18] <YamahaAlex37> please i needs helppp
  226. # [04:18] <YamahaAlex37> http://jsfiddle.net/ShrsW/7/
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  242. # [05:15] <pdkl> what is the best book/cbt/video to learn html 5 for a seasoned developer from?
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  246. # [05:27] <YamahaAlex37> pdkl, u mean transition from html 4 to html 5?
  247. # [05:28] <pdkl> my reference point is most gui work i done, is gtk, wpf/silverlight, and qt
  248. # [05:28] <pdkl> i know enough html to cut and paste a template and fill in the blocks
  249. # [05:28] <pdkl> but thats it
  250. # [05:29] <YamahaAlex37> well its hardly different from html4
  251. # [05:29] <YamahaAlex37> http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/html-css-techniques/html-5-and-css-3-the-techniques-youll-soon-be-using/
  252. # [05:30] <YamahaAlex37> except if u want to do guis and things, u probably want to look at some html5 canvas, js/jquery books
  253. # [05:31] <YamahaAlex37> packtpub is having a sale on all ebooks, some good html5/js/jquery books for $10.99
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  255. # [05:39] <JonathanNeal> Updated my html5 sheet music single note teacher @ http://sandbox.thewikies.com/note/
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  268. # [05:58] <niftylettuce_> do we have a list of laptops somewhere that have built-in accelerometers/gyroscopes etc for device orientation API to "work"
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  270. # [05:59] <niftylettuce_> or list of links to ebay etc to purchase usb sensors
  271. # [06:08] <niftylettuce_> only macbooks and thinkpads have support?
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  273. # [06:16] <YamahaAlex37> lol wat r u talking about
  274. # [06:20] <niftylettuce_> time to dig into /etc/acpi/events :)!
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  276. # [06:24] <niftylettuce_> found it \o/!!!
  277. # [06:24] <niftylettuce_> hp laptops @ /sys/devices/platform/lis3lv02d/
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  279. # [06:28] <YamahaAlex37> anyone have a resolution bigger than 1920x1080 willing to tell me if a site works?
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  314. # [07:17] <ExpFist> clearRect, how slow is it? If you have a blank canvas and write 20px of data (say a box), if you clear the entire window, will it clear stuff you havn't written to, or is it smart enough to know to only clear the 20px?
  315. # [07:18] <moshee> ExpFist, you should probably specify the rectangle you want to clear
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  317. # [07:21] <ExpFist> Does it make a huge speed difference?
  318. # [07:22] <phrearch> morning
  319. # [07:22] <ExpFist> I ask because I'm clearing the entire screen 20 times per second now before each frame. If it's worth the effort I'll write it to try and only clear what's written
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  343. # [08:18] <YamahaAlex> is there any free alternative to GitHub that can be private?
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  395. # [10:24] <paul_irish> YamahaAlex37: bitbucket
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  423. # [11:49] <Stava> I asked this in #web, but I guess it makes more sense to ask here. Which is more semantically correct: "<dfn>E-mail</dfn>: test@example.com" or "<b>E-mail</b>: test@example.com"?
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  425. # [11:52] <Ms2ger> Why do you want to mark it up?
  426. # [11:52] <Velmont> Stava: ... <a href="mailto:test@example.com">e-mail</a> I'd wager.
  427. # [11:52] <Stava> Velmont, Of course, but I want to target the word E-mail with css
  428. # [11:53] <Ms2ger> span?
  429. # [11:54] <shwetank_> <dfn> wouldnt be suitable semantically in your example
  430. # [11:54] <Velmont> Yeah, I'd use span as well.
  431. # [11:54] <shwetank_> best would be to use span and css
  432. # [11:55] <Stava> alright
  433. # [11:56] <Stava> I was also thinking of using a description list (<dl>), that would make sense though, right?
  434. # [11:57] <shwetank_> for listing email addresses?
  435. # [11:57] <Stava> yes, contact information
  436. # [12:01] <shwetank_> acc to the new html5 spec, it should be okay (if im uderstanding your use case correctly)
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  438. # [12:02] <shwetank_> *new html5 definition
  439. # [12:02] <Velmont> Yes, it's redefined, wouldn't be OK in the old world though ;-)
  440. # [12:02] <shwetank_> yup
  441. # [12:02] <Stava> Awesome
  442. # [12:06] <Stava> I just realized that I have styling needs that are difficult to do with <dl>, so I'll go with http://pastie.org/2699770
  443. # [12:06] <Stava> http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/address.html says <address> is used for contact information, so this must be right
  444. # [12:08] <shwetank_> yeah .... also check out html5doctor.com if you havent .... they provide nice info on such semantics
  445. # [12:09] <Stava> Cool, I'll check it out. Thanks for the help
  446. # [12:09] <shwetank_> no probs
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  481. # [13:29] <niftylettuce_> just released, device orientation API working on HP laptops (namely dv series) https://github.com/niftylettuce/hp-laptop-device-orientation
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  488. # [13:44] <niftylettuce_> tickets filed on bugzilla and chromium, yay
  489. # [13:45] <zamabe> I HAVE BUGS EVERYWH.R. BECAUSE MY NAME IS GRISSOM AND I USE THEM TO SOLVE CASES!
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  524. # [15:24] <Jackneill> http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/353812_460s_v1.jpg
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  526. # [15:27] <f0f> why did the most famous chief exec on earth get more attention than a developer of C and UNIX? baffling :)
  527. # [15:30] <Ms2ger> Why hasn't this channel been overrun with fanbois yet?
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  534. # [15:42] <gyzmodo> hello guys
  535. # [15:42] <gyzmodo> <nav class="main-nav"> - is it correct usage?
  536. # [15:42] <gyzmodo> :)
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  565. # [16:25] <Velmont> Jackneill: http://blog.stone-head.org/dennis-m-ritchie-aka-dmr/ <- show this to they who don't understand.
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  575. # [16:39] <N_> hi, how can i set a target in evt.target.setAttribute?
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  601. # [17:29] <N_> why this code don't work? work with opacity if I change, but with fill don't work... o_o
  602. # [17:29] <N_> <set attributeName="fill" from="url(#GradientePorftolioAzul); to="url(#GradientePortfolioAmarelo)"
  603. # [17:29] <N_> begin="QuadradoImagem.mouseover" end="QuadradoImagem.mouseout"/>
  604. # [17:29] <paul_irish> Stava: <label> is appropriate for that
  605. # [17:29] <N_> ??? o_o
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  666. # [18:51] <robertj> howdy all. is there a better channel to ask websockets questions?
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  707. # [20:36] <machinesagainstm> how the hell I can set a gradient in fill? (svg)
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  709. # [20:37] <machinesagainstm> fuck you
  710. # [20:37] <machinesagainstm> fuck you all
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  712. # [20:47] <Pomax> okay?
  713. # [20:47] <Pomax> the spirit of google is not with this one
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  793. # [23:34] <tw2113> mac people....is there going to be huge differences between Safari iPad and Safari on the desktops/macbooks?
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