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  1. # Session Start: Sat Oct 22 00:00:00 2011
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  3. # [00:00] <paul_irish> classy use of webgl.. http://www.eatmysharts.com/ :p
  4. # [00:03] <Orbitrix> i lol'd
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  8. # [00:08] <monteslu> paul_irish, ahhh, so that's why ice cream sandwich gets no webgl :)
  9. # [00:11] <monteslu> the music is almost rhythmic
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  126. # [03:04] <martisj> I am marking up a site design, primarily with Chrome on a mac, but when I open it in firefox some of the text in my p's disappears. What could cause such behaviour?
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  135. # [03:15] <martisj> this is a screenshot from chrome: http://dev.martinsjastad.com/chrome.PNG -- and FF: http://dev.martinsjastad.com/firefox.PNG
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  152. # [04:05] <estellevw> martisj: we would have to see the css to debug. The space for the paragraphs is there, so maybe there is some non-understoof css, or maybe a browser is closing an element / another isn't due to mismatched quotes
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  156. # [04:14] <tw2113> hi estellevw
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  161. # [04:18] <paul_irish> hahah http://paulirish.com/i/e36480.png
  162. # [04:19] <tw2113> evening paul_irish
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  166. # [04:28] <TriumphOfDeath> Hello there, Based on Wiki HTML5 Article, I have two doubts about functionally... The Article says something like: many web-browsers can use it, but at this time it's in testing mode. So nowadays: 1. where do you want to go today? you know using html5.. 2. Can new tags be used on JS (like jquery), doing the same thing as HTML5, but with today compability and future language syntax? :D My apologies if I'm asking dummy things.. Regards!
  167. # [04:29] <tw2113> huh
  168. # [04:29] <paul_irish> yes and yes
  169. # [04:30] <TriumphOfDeath> paul_irish: it's a true answer?
  170. # [04:30] <TriumphOfDeath> tw2113: huh? :D
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  172. # [04:33] <paul_irish> TriumphOfDeath: we dont really understand what you're asking :)
  173. # [04:34] <TriumphOfDeath> paul_irish: How many the language can be used? Can I replace the html5 language with JS while it is official?
  174. # [04:35] <paul_irish> i still dont understand :)
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  176. # [04:35] <TriumphOfDeath> paul_irish: -> OMG, it's ok
  177. # [04:36] <paul_irish> i wonder how well imgElem.naturalHeight is supported ..
  178. # [04:36] <tw2113> replace html with js?
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  180. # [04:37] <TriumphOfDeath> tw2113: tags while all web browser support it
  181. # [04:38] <TriumphOfDeath> :D
  182. # [04:38] <tw2113> if all browsers support it...then you're fine
  183. # [04:38] <tw2113> why replace
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  186. # [04:38] <tw2113> are you talking the browsers that don't support the new html tags?
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  188. # [04:39] <TriumphOfDeath> tw2113: yes
  189. # [04:39] <TriumphOfDeath> tw2113: I see now, thks! :D
  190. # [04:39] <tw2113> then use a touch of js to tell the dino-browsers that they can apply styles to it
  191. # [04:39] <tw2113> ?g html5shiv
  192. # [04:39] <bot-t1> tw2113, html5shiv - HTML5 IE enabling script - Google Project Hosting - http://code.google.com/p/html5shiv/
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  196. # [04:40] <TriumphOfDeath> tw2113: that's it, I understand now.. TY FYI!
  197. # [04:41] <TriumphOfDeath> :D :D
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  214. # [05:11] <martisj> estellevw: Thanks for the reply however I got help from the css channel, and we found out that it was my font declaration that was the problem, also I have learned that if I want help I should always post a link to my site.
  215. # [05:11] <martisj> estellevw: which makes a lot more sense :)
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  269. # [07:40] <martisj> how do you guys perform x-browser testing? On a mac and windows
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  341. # [11:49] <matijsb> On the Mac run Saf, Fx, Opera and Chrome, latest versions. In VirtualBox have several different virtual machines with the different versions of IE. I don't trust things like IE Tester where you run several IEs on the same Windows.
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  537. # [18:43] <moshee> is it bad to have javascript functions modify themselves after the first time they're called?
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  542. # [18:58] <Ms2ger> { get foo() { delete this.foo; return this.foo = this.getFoo(); } }?
  543. # [18:59] <Pomax> not inherently. it doesn't become bad until you write code that uses that function without making sure the codepaths don't expect the old functionality after it modified itself.
  544. # [19:02] <moshee> ok cool
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  546. # [19:03] <Pomax> that said, there's really not a lot of situations where changing after the first call makes sense. I know several libraries that bind different function bodies to functors depending on which parameters you pass to their init() function, but I don't think I know any that change the function body after the function gets called
  547. # [19:04] <Pomax> so document it well, and unit test the hell out of your code, because it's going to do dangerous things after a while =)
  548. # [19:07] <moshee> my script is tiny, no libraries needed :P
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  553. # [19:14] <Pomax> I'm treating your script as if it's a library itself.
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  555. # [19:19] <gnarf> Pomax: the use case could easily be caching the result of the function call
  556. # [19:20] <gnarf> first time it does some calculation, and replaces itself with a "return result" function
  557. # [19:21] <Pomax> yeah, factory functions was the only thing I could think of, too
  558. # [19:24] <Pomax> although if the factory's setting dependent, a a cache var makes more sense
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  560. # [19:24] <Pomax> unless you want to write a separate function that resets the factory function once the code state changes too much
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  666. # [23:16] <Grognardian> is it possible to sync a local folder with a shared hosting folder? so i dont need to use ftp always?
  667. # [23:17] <ExpFist> rsync
  668. # [23:17] <Grognardian> thanks
  669. # [23:17] <Grognardian> do you know if Komodo can deploy to FTP like Aptana?
  670. # [23:18] <ExpFist> Active State Komodo? Never tried
  671. # [23:18] <ExpFist> I test locally though
  672. # [23:19] <ExpFist> VM Web server with the web directory shared with my computer
  673. # [23:19] <Grognardian> what if my shared hosting providor doesnt work with ssh
  674. # [23:20] <ExpFist> Honestly
  675. # [23:20] <ExpFist> I'd get a new provider
  676. # [23:20] <ExpFist> FTP is extremely insecure and it means they are bad at what they do
  677. # [23:20] <Grognardian> maybe they do, i just havent checked
  678. # [23:20] <ExpFist> Check SFTP is easy to use and standard
  679. # [23:20] <Grognardian> but most shared hosting dont provide you ssh info initially correct
  680. # [23:21] <ExpFist> Most should
  681. # [23:21] <ExpFist> Although maybe yours has FTPS. I'd never get a provider without SSH though
  682. # [23:21] <ExpFist> Makes simple management tasks painful without
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  684. # [23:23] <ExpFist> lftp supports mirroring though but I don't use it
  685. # [23:23] <ExpFist> never have used it rather
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  687. # [23:25] <Grognardian> http://justmakegames.com/index.php/showcase/engines/showcasecryengine3/32-cryengine-3-terrain-interview-with-klass
  688. # [23:25] <Grognardian> oops sorry
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