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  144. # [06:20] <aamir-m> Is there any way I can width and height of loaded image?
  145. # [06:20] <aamir-m> I can calculate width ...*
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  161. # [07:10] <eago> hi, I'm doing a videogallery, usually I'd use a flash flv player... but if I want to use html5 what should I use?
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  178. # [08:05] <aamir-m> eago: if you want to use html5, you will have to use html5 :p
  179. # [08:05] <aamir-m> eago: just kidding, you can use video tag or html5 canvas to create video gallary...
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  212. # [09:31] <bedspax> Hi guys
  213. # [09:31] <bedspax> the best way for geolocation?
  214. # [09:31] <bedspax> I'm using navigator.geolocation
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  242. # [10:52] <yamahaalex371> hero
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  244. # [10:53] <yamahaalex371> how do i identify in freenode
  245. # [10:54] <danbeam__> yamahaalex371: register your nick with NickServ
  246. # [10:54] <yamahaalex371> i did
  247. # [10:55] <yamahaalex371> i just need to authenticate
  248. # [10:55] <yamahaalex371> or identify
  249. # [10:55] <danbeam__> yamahaalex371: whatever password you registered with
  250. # [10:55] <danbeam__> yamahaalex371: identify to NickServ with it
  251. # [10:55] <yamahaalex371> but how
  252. # [10:55] <danbeam__> yamahaalex371: you message it to it clear text, IIRC
  253. # [10:55] <danbeam__> yamahaalex371: same way you registered it
  254. # [10:55] <yamahaalex371> im asking for the syntax
  255. # [10:56] <yamahaalex371> what do i message to IRC
  256. # [10:56] <danbeam__> yamahaalex371: you did pass along a password when you registered, right?
  257. # [10:56] <yamahaalex371> /msg identify username password?
  258. # [10:56] <danbeam__> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
  259. # [10:56] <danbeam__> yes
  260. # [10:56] <danbeam__> well, no
  261. # [10:56] <yamahaalex371> thanks, that link helped
  262. # [10:56] <danbeam__> /msg nickserv identify yamahaalex371 blahblah
  263. # [10:56] <danbeam__> blahblah = your pass
  264. # [10:57] <yamahaalex371> it worked thank you
  265. # [10:57] <danbeam__> then set up SASL auth so you never have to do it again, ;)
  266. # [10:57] * danbeam__ never has to do it, lol
  267. # [10:57] <yamahaalex371> sasl?
  268. # [10:57] <yamahaalex371> im using pidgen
  269. # [10:57] <danbeam__> (this is slightly more involved)
  270. # [10:57] <danbeam__> oh, er, not sure then...
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  272. # [10:58] <yamahaalex371> i dont think i like pidgin
  273. # [10:58] <yamahaalex371> i liked xchat
  274. # [10:58] <yamahaalex371> then all of a sudden 30 days, realized i had to pay
  275. # [10:58] * danbeam__ uses irssi
  276. # [10:58] * danbeam__ likes it
  277. # [10:58] <danbeam__> but it's not for those that like ... GUI
  278. # [10:59] <yamahaalex371> iirsi looks like it willl hurt my eyes way too much
  279. # [10:59] <danbeam__> yamahaalex371: it might
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  296. # [11:33] <aamir-m> Is there any way which give me width and height of loaded image?
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  300. # [11:39] <Ms2ger> naturalWidth?
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  443. # [17:28] <gyzmodo> guys
  444. # [17:28] <gyzmodo> can a tag has h4? :)
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  446. # [17:28] <divya> what does it mean?
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  449. # [17:29] <gyzmodo> <a><div><h4>example</h4></div></a>
  450. # [17:29] <gyzmodo> :)
  451. # [17:29] <divya> why not
  452. # [17:30] <gyzmodo> in xhtml it's not correct code
  453. # [17:30] <gyzmodo> :)
  454. # [17:30] <divya> y u xhtml?
  455. # [17:30] <gyzmodo> nope
  456. # [17:30] <gyzmodo> :)
  457. # [17:30] <gyzmodo> i am writing html5
  458. # [17:30] <divya> then?
  459. # [17:31] <gyzmodo> any proof links?
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  461. # [17:32] <divya> proof of what?
  462. # [17:33] <gyzmodo> <a><div><h4>example</h4></div></a>
  463. # [17:33] <JakeA> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/text-level-semantics.html#the-a-element
  464. # [17:33] <JakeA> "The http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/text-level-semantics.html#the-a-element element may be wrapped around entire paragraphs, lists, tables, and so forth, even entire sections, so long as there is no interactive content within"
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  466. # [17:35] <JakeA> It's content model is "transparent", meaning it can contain any element its parent element can contain
  467. # [17:36] <JakeA> So you can't do <table><a href=""><h3>Hello!</h3></a></table>, but you can do <div><a href=""><h3>Hello!</h3></a></div>
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  469. # [17:36] <JakeA> So, as long as the parent to your <a> can contain divs, you're good
  470. # [17:37] <gyzmodo> so i can use <a><div><h4>example</h4></div></a>? :)
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  472. # [17:37] <JakeA> Depends on what the parent element to your <a> is
  473. # [17:37] <gyzmodo> li
  474. # [17:38] <JakeA> <li> element can contain <div>s, so yes, it's fine
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  476. # [17:38] <JakeA> Basically, if it's fine without the <a>, it's fine with the <a>
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  478. # [17:38] <gyzmodo> i dont want repeat a tag 2 times
  479. # [17:38] <JakeA> Unless it contain interactive content, such as form fields, embeds or other links… but that's just common sense
  480. # [17:39] <gyzmodo> <li><a href="#"><img src="f/i/specialist_01.jpg" alt="" /><h4><strong>Last First</strong> </h4></a></li>
  481. # [17:39] <gyzmodo> this code is correct?
  482. # [17:39] <gyzmodo> oh
  483. # [17:39] <gyzmodo> i mean
  484. # [17:39] <gyzmodo> <li><a href="#"><img src="f/i/specialist_01.jpg" alt="" /><div><h4><strong>Last First</strong> </h4></a></div></li>
  485. # [17:40] <JakeA> Nah, the nesting is wrong there
  486. # [17:40] <JakeA> your <div> is in the wrong place maybe?
  487. # [17:40] <JakeA> It closes after </a>, but opens inside the <a>
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  489. # [17:40] <gyzmodo> nope, i'll float: left img
  490. # [17:40] <gyzmodo> and i'll wrap with div right content
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  492. # [17:41] <JakeA> <li><div><a href="#"><img src="f/i/specialist_01.jpg" alt="" /><h4><strong>Last First</strong> </h4></a></div></li> is fine
  493. # [17:41] <JakeA> As is <li><a href="#"><img src="f/i/specialist_01.jpg" alt="" /><div><h4><strong>Last First</strong> </h4></div></a></li>
  494. # [17:42] <JakeA> But <li><a href="#"><img src="f/i/specialist_01.jpg" alt="" /><div><h4><strong>Last First</strong> </h4></a></div></li> isn't right
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  496. # [17:42] <gyzmodo> i think so :)
  497. # [17:43] <JakeA> http://html5.validator.nu/ is a good way to double-check
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  499. # [17:43] <gyzmodo> can i replace div with hgroup?
  500. # [17:43] <gyzmodo> :)
  501. # [17:43] <gyzmodo> section?
  502. # [17:43] <JakeA> I think div is better
  503. # [17:43] <gyzmodo> :)
  504. # [17:44] <JakeA> Nah, it's not a section. If you only need it for styling, div is fine
  505. # [17:44] <JakeA> Actually, I'd question the use of <strong>, if that's just there for styling change it to <span>
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  510. # [17:50] <gyzmodo> <li><a href="#"><img src="f/i/specialist_01.jpg" alt="" /><h4><strong>Last First</strong> <em>Web Developer</em> <span>More...</span></h4></a></li>
  511. # [17:50] <gyzmodo> What do you think about this code?
  512. # [17:50] <gyzmodo> :)
  513. # [17:51] <gyzmodo> with h4 i wrapped right
  514. # [17:51] <yamahaalex371> what do you mean what do we think about it
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  516. # [17:52] <gyzmodo> i want to write semantic code
  517. # [17:52] <JakeA> It's valid & well formed, although I'm not sure about the use of <strong> and <em> in there
  518. # [17:52] <JakeA> We'd need to see more code to decide on the rest
  519. # [17:53] <JakeA> Eg, it looks like there's a heading without any content associated to it
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  521. # [17:54] <yamahaalex371> i think its going to show an image with some bold text next to some emphasized text next to a read more option...
  522. # [17:54] <yamahaalex371> or is there subliminal messages o_O
  523. # [17:54] <JakeA> If software was to read that out it would say "Last first web developer more…" which doesn't really make sense
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  526. # [17:57] <gyzmodo> one moment
  527. # [17:57] <gyzmodo> http://i56.tinypic.com/bl74k.png
  528. # [17:58] <gyzmodo> it's a design
  529. # [17:58] <gyzmodo> :)
  530. # [17:59] <gyzmodo> rounded corner and any content on the right is a link
  531. # [17:59] <gyzmodo> i want to do it with one <a> tag
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  536. # [18:00] <JakeA> <li class="vcard"><a href=""><img><span class="fn">John Doe</span> <span class="role">Web Developer</span></a></li>
  537. # [18:01] <JakeA> That's my opinion
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  539. # [18:02] <JakeA> You don't need a heading, or strong, em. The class names I've used come from http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard
  540. # [18:02] <JakeA> Actually, the img should have class="photo" too
  541. # [18:02] <gyzmodo> :)
  542. # [18:02] <gyzmodo> thanks man!
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  545. # [18:03] <JakeA> No problem
  546. # [18:03] <gyzmodo> for More text can i use span? :)
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  548. # [18:04] <JakeA> I don't think you should have "more…", if you make the name look like a link then people will know to click it if they want to know about "John Doe"
  549. # [18:04] <gyzmodo> Yeah, good idea!
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  552. # [18:05] <gyzmodo> huge thanks
  553. # [18:05] <JakeA> No problem :D
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  589. # [18:49] <ejnahc> sorry for bad english, I want to make a linear animation using canvas that moves from (x0,y0) to (x1,y1), but using kinetic_2d, I have to draw elements with changing position until it ends. how can I set the position during animation? I think the solution is {distance (x0,y0)~(x1,y1)/frames}, any ideas? help me plz
  590. # [18:52] <JakeA> Use requestAnimationFrame if you're not already http://paulirish.com/2011/requestanimationframe-for-smart-animating/
  591. # [18:52] <JakeA> Make a date object at the start of your animation
  592. # [18:52] <JakeA> Then make another date object each frame and compare the 2
  593. # [18:53] <JakeA> var pos = (currentDate - startDate) / animationDuration;
  594. # [18:53] <JakeA> Now pos is a number between 0 & 1, where 0 is the start of your anim, 1 is the end
  595. # [18:53] <ejnahc> JakeA, thank you very much. It really helps
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  597. # [18:54] <JakeA> var newVal = (endVal - startVal) * easingFunction(pos) + startVal;
  598. # [18:54] <JakeA> You'll do the above for each value changing, in your case x & y
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  600. # [18:55] <JakeA> easingFunction() will take your 0-1 position and apply some kind of easing, you don't need it, you'll get linear easing without it
  601. # [18:56] <ejnahc> really really thanks :)
  602. # [18:56] <JakeA> No problem :)
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  775. # [23:36] <grantg> hey
  776. # [23:37] <grantg> Does anyone have the frequencies used for nyan cat?
  777. # [23:37] <grantg> I'm doing a realtime audio demo.
  778. # [23:37] <grantg> I'm gonna make a real time synthesizer for nyan cat music
  779. # [23:37] <grantg> 8-bit'ized
  780. # [23:38] <grantg> sorry, I mean music notes for nyan cat
  781. # [23:38] <grantg> :/
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