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  99. # [04:40] <alexluya> Hello,when uploading multiple files,do these files are uploaded one by one or multiple simultaneously?
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  174. # [07:52] <trumpetmic> Hey all! what cool new things should I use to build my next website? it's going to be informational, lots of content, not super dynamic, but I want it to be easy to manage (even for laymen), and snappy. My first thought was Wordpress, but then I thought maybe I should learn something on this project.
  175. # [07:55] <OzDave_mbp> wordpress
  176. # [07:56] <OzDave_mbp> You could get bogged down with drupal, joomla etc but wordpress does it neat and tidy
  177. # [07:56] <tw2113> i've seen this question in 2 rooms, and i agree, learn WP and php first
  178. # [07:56] <tw2113> i'm in #wordpress too
  179. # [07:57] <trumpetmic> thanks
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  181. # [07:58] <trumpetmic> I've done a handful of sites in wordpress. I have a decent handle on it. I'm curious about anything new and exciting that I could learn as I build this site
  182. # [07:58] <trumpetmic> agreed, wordpress was the first thought, because of the quality, simplicity and power
  183. # [07:58] <OzDave_mbp> If you have the time then to waste check out drupal, joomla as alternative cms's
  184. # [07:59] <OzDave_mbp> If you lack the basics in html and php its going to hurt some
  185. # [07:59] <trumpetmic> I've done a few of those as well. I prefer wordpress over those two
  186. # [07:59] <OzDave_mbp> As some people triple boot a machine you could triple folder a server
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  188. # [08:00] <OzDave_mbp> this would reduce costs, look cool and give you experience in each folder
  189. # [08:00] <trumpetmic> huh?
  190. # [08:00] <trumpetmic> what do you mean by 'triple folder'?
  191. # [08:00] <OzDave_mbp> load all of them into one site with seperated folders
  192. # [08:00] <tw2113> personally, i'd be first asking what parts of html5 are you wanting to deal with
  193. # [08:00] <trumpetmic> hahah
  194. # [08:01] <OzDave_mbp> :P
  195. # [08:01] <trumpetmic> I like that question
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  198. # [08:01] <OzDave_mbp> If its general setup practice then my advice is gold
  199. # [08:01] <trumpetmic> ok, I'm thinking of doing a responsive design/layout, so that would mean a different experience of the site, depending on the device or screen resolution you have
  200. # [08:02] <tw2113> that'd be css3
  201. # [08:02] <OzDave_mbp> not just css3
  202. # [08:02] <trumpetmic> i suppose the shortcut to that would be a google search for "responsive design wordpress theme", find somehting and tweak that
  203. # [08:02] <OzDave_mbp> Sure the style sheets will be required for each device but you are going to need some DOM
  204. # [08:02] <OzDave_mbp> store the content in a db or as flat file xml components and wrap each device accordingly
  205. # [08:03] <trumpetmic> now this is sounding interesting
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  207. # [08:03] <OzDave_mbp> True separation of content and layout
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  209. # [08:03] <trumpetmic> and I was also thinking it might be fun to use some .less
  210. # [08:04] <trumpetmic> but not sure that can be integrated into a nice workflow with a CMS like wordpress
  211. # [08:04] <OzDave_mbp> have you explored teh zen garden site?
  212. # [08:04] <trumpetmic> hmmm
  213. # [08:04] * tw2113 has integrated
  214. # [08:04] <OzDave_mbp> http://www.csszengarden.com/
  215. # [08:04] <trumpetmic> yes, years ago.. .it's been a while
  216. # [08:04] <tw2113> if the zen garden hasn't gone responsive, i'm meh
  217. # [08:05] <trumpetmic> i stopped going to csszengarden when the content stopped getting updates
  218. # [08:05] <OzDave_mbp> It was an example to the separation factor
  219. # [08:05] <trumpetmic> the current design options listed there are from like 2 careers ago
  220. # [08:05] <trumpetmic> it was
  221. # [08:05] <OzDave_mbp> Are you into flipping sites?
  222. # [08:05] <trumpetmic> and it was a great example
  223. # [08:05] <trumpetmic> what are flipping sites?
  224. # [08:06] <OzDave_mbp> taking old bog ugly ones, updating them then floggin them off for profit
  225. # [08:08] <trumpetmic> I have redesigned quite a few sites, for clients. is that what you mean?
  226. # [08:08] <OzDave_mbp> take away the client
  227. # [08:08] <OzDave_mbp> buy the site, redo the site on your own back, sell the site
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  229. # [08:09] <trumpetmic> interesting
  230. # [08:09] <trumpetmic> examples?
  231. # [08:09] <OzDave_mbp> http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&sugexp=kjrmc&cp=11&gs_id=13&xhr=t&q=website+flipping&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&site=&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=website+fli&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=f&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=64df1acbd1a2b3bb&biw=936&bih=734
  232. # [08:09] <OzDave_mbp> take your pick ;)
  233. # [08:09] <paul_irish> what
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  235. # [08:11] <trumpetmic> oh that's interesting
  236. # [08:11] <trumpetmic> seems like pretty much the same work a lot of people already do… improving site designs, increasing traffic
  237. # [08:11] <trumpetmic> plus the part about buying and selling
  238. # [08:12] <trumpetmic> i think if you can buy a site and make it attractive enough for you to be able to sell it at a profit, you might as well keep it
  239. # [08:12] <OzDave_mbp> We have all repaired a site for clients, but keep your eye on ones that have a lot of potential in domain name and ability
  240. # [08:12] <trumpetmic> interesting
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  242. # [08:12] <trumpetmic> that sort of opens my eyees
  243. # [08:12] <trumpetmic> thanks
  244. # [08:12] <OzDave_mbp> yay!
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  247. # [08:17] <Pomax> if you're a good samaritan, you do it for restaurants
  248. # [08:18] <Pomax> because god DAMN do they need to learn how people use internet.
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  252. # [08:20] <OzDave_mbp> email to fax makes a good business
  253. # [08:21] <OzDave_mbp> You can get 50c or so which each order if you do it that way
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  258. # [08:29] <OzDave_mbp> Email to sms works for the blue collar guys without a smart soap bar. If you about 6 of them at the start it should make a profit
  259. # [08:29] <OzDave_mbp> Painters drop phones into paint, seen it a hundred times, they have white flecked nokias with a billion years of splattered paint in many situations
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  317. # [10:26] <grantg> paul_irish: no nyan cat synthesizing yet, but a new audio generator can be found on http://grantgalitz.org/sound_test/
  318. # [10:27] <grantg> Wrote some quickie synthesizing objects.
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  320. # [10:27] <grantg> That a javascript game programmer can actually highly use
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  322. # [10:28] <grantg> Like the soundtrack programming for it looks like: http://grantgalitz.org/sound_test/audioCommandsToPlay.js
  323. # [10:29] <grantg> with ticks being the number of sample frames so far
  324. # [10:29] <grantg> and the modulus is used for soundtrack length counter limiting, so we can have it loop
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  326. # [10:30] <grantg> also, it seems to perform well even on slo-mo firefox 3.6. :D
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  427. # [15:04] <omatase_> or things like fade outs / ins
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  601. # [19:07] <JonathanNeal> hi
  602. # [19:07] <bot-t> (90 hours 6 secs ago) <paul_irish> tell jonathanneal omg omg http://yfrog.com/z/obm43yj
  603. # [19:07] <JonathanNeal> whoooooooa
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  605. # [19:07] <divya> u been gone too long JonathanNeal
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  607. # [19:09] <JonathanNeal> I promised my wife some quality time, and I'm really glad I gave it to her.
  608. # [19:09] <JonathanNeal> We went on a bunch of dates. :)
  609. # [19:09] <divya> nice :)
  610. # [19:09] <JonathanNeal> What's been happening? I know a lot goes down in a week.
  611. # [19:10] <divya> hmm nothing too terribly important i think?
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  619. # [19:14] <JonathanNeal> paul_irish sent me an email about something in css please and a request regarding dive into html5
  620. # [19:14] <JonathanNeal> paul_irish you around and wanna catch up?
  621. # [19:15] <paul_irish> JonathanNeal: hi hi
  622. # [19:15] <paul_irish> sup
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  625. # [19:16] <JonathanNeal> notta much, catching up on the internets.
  626. # [19:16] <JonathanNeal> css3please added a matrix somethin' or other?
  627. # [19:18] <JonathanNeal> weird how css3plz is now dated further back than css3please it seems
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  629. # [19:18] <JonathanNeal> thought they were meant to be inverted.
  630. # [19:18] <paul_irish> hmm there is supsed to be a domain forward..
  631. # [19:18] <paul_irish> humph.
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  634. # [19:19] <JonathanNeal> Let me look into your email about dive into html5
  635. # [19:19] <JonathanNeal> don't want to neglect that.
  636. # [19:19] <paul_irish> kk
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  639. # [19:23] <paul_irish> okay redirect in place now.
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  645. # [19:24] <JonathanNeal> sweet
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  647. # [19:24] <ProLoser|Work> hallo
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  649. # [19:25] <JonathanNeal> paul_irish, is there nothing like an issue tracker @ https://github.com/jonathantneal/diveintohtml5 ?
  650. # [19:26] <paul_irish> JonathanNeal: in Admin you have to turn it on
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  652. # [19:26] <JonathanNeal> looking
  653. # [19:26] <JonathanNeal> Done
  654. # [19:27] <JonathanNeal> https://github.com/jonathantneal/diveintohtml5/issues
  655. # [19:27] <paul_irish> awes. thx
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  667. # [19:39] <ProLoser|Work> is page history broken in ios5?
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  746. # [20:57] <Adrians> Hey everyone. C++ programmer here. Anyone know any good sources to learn HTML? Books PDFs etc?
  747. # [20:58] <tw2113> http://html5forwebdesigners.com/
  748. # [20:58] <tw2113> just got released in html format
  749. # [20:59] <tw2113> http://diveintohtml5.info/
  750. # [21:00] <Adrians> Cool thank you. Im completely new to HTML coding so I'll check these out.
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  753. # [21:00] <tw2113> those are the first two i think of, someone else can join in as well
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  814. # [22:21] <chovy> tw2113: there is HTML5 and CSS3
  815. # [22:21] <chovy> http://pragprog.com/book/bhh5/html5-and-css3
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  838. # [22:51] <paul_irish> rly like this thread on js testing here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3150827
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