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# [01:36] <jarek> I didn't new there is HTML5 channel
# [01:36] <jarek> awesome, now I can stop asking silly questions on #whatwg
# [01:36] <jarek> s/new/knew
# [01:37] <jarek> Do you know about good documentation that would explain how ranges and selections are working?
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# [01:38] <jarek> the specification has very few examples: http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Traversal-Range/ranges.html#Level2-DocumentRange-method-createRange
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# [01:55] <paul_irish> jarek: i dont see much documented on ranges too often.
# [01:55] <paul_irish> MDN is your next best pick
# [01:55] <paul_irish> does unixpapa have an article on 'em?
# [01:55] <hober> jarek: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
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# [02:01] <jarek> Are the ranges as specified in DOM4 supported in WebKit? The spec looks rather rough
# [02:02] <jarek> paul_irish: right, I forgot about MDN
# [02:02] <jarek> paul_irish: though I'm looking for WebKit-oriented resources mostly
# [02:02] <jarek> I was told that there are many inconsistencies between browsers when it comes to text editing
# [02:02] <Pomax> I find quirksmode useful here, too
# [02:02] <Pomax> http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/range_intro.html
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# [02:03] <Pomax> and the nice thing about quirksmode, of course, is that it will tell you whether you can expect it to work in the browser(s) you're using
# [02:03] <paul_irish> jarek: i contribute webkit info to the MDN all the time fwiw
# [02:04] <paul_irish> it's getting better day by day
# [02:05] <jarek> paul_irish: awesome, btw, your tutorials rock
# [02:06] <paul_irish> thxthx
# [02:06] <jarek> paul_irish: I especially liked your screencast on console object, it has completely changed the way how I debug code
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# [02:07] <JonathanNeal> waiting :)
# [02:10] <paul_irish> JonathanNeal: does ` body {behavior: url(javascript:”<PUBLIC:COMPONENT lightWeight="true"> etc. etc.”);} ` work ??
# [02:10] <JonathanNeal> I think so and I'm double checking right now.
# [02:11] * paul_irish is asking the css3 pie guy (jason)
# [02:12] <paul_irish> he doesnt know of a way to do that
# [02:13] <JonathanNeal> Well, we're the kinda guys that break the rules.
# [02:13] <JonathanNeal> So lemme find out.
# [02:13] <paul_irish> kk
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# [02:14] <jarek> do you think it's a good idea to implement a text editor on top of WebGL (instead of DOM)?
# [02:14] <JonathanNeal> so far no bugs
# [02:14] <JonathanNeal> now testing to see if it worked.
# [02:14] <jarek> there is a project founded by Kickstarter that tries to do that
# [02:15] <OzDave_mbp> In the ye olde days of the 300mhz era of pentium II's it was always faster to make a fake 2d out of 3d panels
# [02:15] <OzDave_mbp> IT allowed the system to not have to think about a whole other layer on top of the 3d
# [02:15] <ryanseddon> jarek: mozilla guys did that with canvas and eventually went back to the dom, ala cloude9ide
# [02:15] <jarek> ryanseddon: yeah, but their code was rather clumsy
# [02:16] <jarek> ryanseddon: the DOM is too slow to handle 1000 lines of code
# [02:16] <paul_irish> jarek: that project caused a lot of consternation over the a11y of canvas that has led to muchos headaches
# [02:16] <ryanseddon> jarek: cloud9 does a pretty good job handling 1000's of lines
# [02:17] <paul_irish> the chrome devtool has a code editor and syntax highlighter than can handle 30k of script without a problem, too
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# [02:17] <jarek> paul_irish: but it is cheating, right? The lines seem to be rendered while you scrolling
# [02:18] <jarek> s/you/yoy are
# [02:18] <JonathanNeal> It's hard to tell. I can't get his to work first.
# [02:18] <paul_irish> jarek: hows that cheating? :)
# [02:18] <paul_irish> that's dealing with constraints. :p
# [02:19] <jarek> theoritically, it could be possible to reimplement the DOM on top of WebGL
# [02:19] <jarek> but without all the legacy cruft
# [02:20] <jarek> could someone do this, please...
# [02:20] <paul_irish> ?glwt
# [02:20] <bot-t> Good Luck With That
# [02:20] <ryanseddon> but why would the performance be that much more significant
# [02:20] <paul_irish> oh come onnnn botty
# [02:20] <paul_irish> ?glwd
# [02:20] <bot-t> http://goodluckwiththatdude.com/
# [02:20] <ryanseddon> make sure to click and hold
# [02:21] <ryanseddon> cloud 9 says it can handle "100,000 lines and more are no problem"
# [02:21] <thomasdavis> http://gitforked.com/
# [02:21] <paul_irish> nice
# [02:22] <jarek> ryanseddon: Github is using the same editor engine as Cloud9, right?
# [02:22] <ryanseddon> put it on modernizr.com
# [02:22] <ryanseddon> jarek: yes
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# [02:23] <jarek> http://ace.ajax.org/build/kitchen-sink.html
# [02:23] <jarek> hmm... it feels faster than the last time I have checked it
# [02:24] <jarek> or maybe Chrome got faster
# [02:25] <ryanseddon> i'd say both
# [02:26] <thomasdavis> anyone know any solid documentation on googles crawler regarding it executing ajax calls
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# [02:57] <jarek> there is a flag in Chrome and WebKit called "javascript-can-access-clipboard"
# [02:57] <jarek> how can I make use of it?
# [02:57] <jarek> is the clipboard API documented somewhere?
# [02:58] <jarek> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=43152
# [02:58] <jarek> ohh great, they are going to remove it
# [03:02] <ryanseddon> Chrome canary can sorta access the clipboard already
# [03:02] <jarek> I have found something http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/
# [03:02] <ryanseddon> on osx it can pick up a file on the clipboard
# [03:02] <ryanseddon> http://html5-demos.appspot.com/static/html5-whats-new/template/index.html#27
# [03:03] <jarek> ryanseddon: I'm trying to access the clipboard on Chrome Canary started with --javascript-can-access-clipboard option
# [03:03] <ryanseddon> you shouldn't need to set the flag for it to work, but maybe thats why it's a bit dodgy
# [03:03] <ryanseddon> does the above demo work with canary and the flag enabled?
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# [03:04] <jarek> ryanseddon: thanks, I will check the example from the link
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# [03:09] <jarek> it works on Chrome without the flag, nice
# [03:09] <jarek> well, at least the 'paste' event works
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# [03:11] <ryanseddon> yeah I've found weird behaviour in that pc won't have any files on the clipboardData object but osx will
# [03:12] <jarek> but you can't access the clipboard content on demand, right?
# [03:12] <ryanseddon> osx picks up all the information about the pasted file but doesn't actually paste the real file only shows the placeholder png file on osx
# [03:12] <jarek> this would be a security risk
# [03:13] <ryanseddon> potentially yes but the user needs to initiate the paste
# [03:13] <jarek> is there any other way to initiate the paste event other than pressing ctrl+v?
# [03:13] <ryanseddon> http://thecssninja.com/i/clipboard.png <-- that is what happens when you paste an image in canary on osx
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# [03:14] <jarek> ryanseddon: I could see only the top part of the PNG icon
# [03:14] <jarek> but it really doesn't matter as I will be copying/pasting only text
# [03:15] <jarek> it seems to be working perfectly fine when text is copied
# [03:15] <ryanseddon> jarek: if it's a contentedtiable element you can trigger the event from the context menu paste
# [03:16] <jarek> ryanseddon: is it possible to fire 'paste' event when user clicks certain button?
# [03:17] <ryanseddon> yeah i'd say so if you use tcreateEvent
# [03:17] <jarek> but this would be a security risk :P
# [03:18] <ryanseddon> still requires user action and would probably restrict access to clipboardData much like programitcally triger a drop event restricts access to dataTransfer object
# [03:19] <ryanseddon> s/triger/triggering
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# [03:20] <jarek> perhaps "javascript-can-access-clipboard" flag enables access to system-wide clipboard
# [03:20] <jarek> I will have to do some more tests
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# [03:27] <Pomax> if you need to copy/paste within a site, you don't need access to the clipboard.
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# [03:27] <Pomax> if you need to copy/paste between sites, the clipboard is doing it wrong.
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# [04:54] <thomasdavis> anyone have any suggestions on how to build out style sheets without compilers
# [04:54] <thomasdavis> so dynamic dependencies like script loaders
# [04:54] <thomasdavis> but css doesn't really support that
# [04:55] <OzDave_mbp> There is a few things that can work with css, like modernizr or sass
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# [07:21] <JonathanNeal> good ol' qsa
# [07:21] <JonathanNeal> i love it
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# [07:26] <trumpetmic> Looking for great design examples for a 'fair trade'-like site
# [07:26] <trumpetmic> anyone have an example?
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# [07:36] <OzDave_mbp> http://www.oxfam.org.au/ I did some video content from them but the site isnt anything special to mention now looking at it again
# [07:36] <OzDave_mbp> they are a large fair trade art dealer
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# [07:40] <trumpetmic> cool thanks
# [07:40] <OzDave_mbp> np
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# [15:36] <biodegabriel> Hi all, perhaps sort of off-topic, but I can't find an answer on Google.... When you have 3 or 4 different font file formats (@font-face declarations) are all the files downloaded by the browser, or only the ones that the browser needs (or understands)?
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# [15:41] <jarek> biodegabriel: you can check this with WebKit Inspector (AKA Chrome Dev Tools)
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# [15:42] <biodegabriel> jarek: cool, i'll try that. thx
# [15:42] <jarek> biodegabriel: open the network tab and the reload the page, it will show you all resources that are downloaded on page load
# [15:42] <jarek> s/the/then
# [15:43] <biodegabriel> jarek: it only downloads the .woff file. :) i wonder if other browsers do the same... (only download the format they want)
# [15:46] <jarek> biodegabriel: if you specify the the fonts like this:
# [15:46] <jarek> @font-face { src: <path to font1>, <path to font2>, <path to font3>}
# [15:46] <jarek> then afaik the first font that browser can understand will be loaded
# [15:47] <jarek> font2 and font3 are fallbacks
# [15:47] <biodegabriel> jarek: ah, OK
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# [16:30] <chrisdev> I just wrote an HTML5 game, but although i've used Canvas before, there really wasn't any drawing requirement, just some trivial transitional animation, so I didn't use it. Is there an argument for *always* using Canvas for HTML5 games? I kinda of feel like I cheated, but it just wasn't necessary in this spec.
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# [17:40] <miketaylr> chrisdev: no
# [17:40] <miketaylr> some people prefer just using DOM
# [17:41] <chrisdev> miketaylr: cool. I am wondering if hardware-accelerated renderers like Chrome are limited to doing that for the canvas only, or rendering in general
# [17:42] <miketaylr> it depends on the browser
# [17:42] <chrisdev> ya
# [17:42] <miketaylr> i think for chrome you can do some translateZ hack to get HWA
# [17:43] <miketaylr> opera will do it by default, i think IE10 as well
# [17:43] <chrisdev> Anyone working in Facebook's new HTML5 game platform? Does that require a 'canvas foundation'?
# [17:43] <divya> webkit is the only engine that requires that hack afaik
# [17:43] <chrisdev> miketaylr: ah yeah I think i remember seeing that somewhere
# [17:43] <chrisdev> my only performance concern is mobile safari
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# [17:44] <chrisdev> but Ive got it working acceptably now
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# [18:09] <techouse> is there any way i could display an external page (external url) on my page and not use an iframe?
# [18:10] <techouse> not planning to do anything, just some brainstorming going on here
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# [18:14] <ghinda> techouse: grab the html with a php proxy, and insert the content of the body in your page.
# [18:15] <techouse> do i need to add anything to that external url's server? any special php files to allow me do that?
# [18:16] <ghinda> you'll need the php on your server, not the external one
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# [18:16] <techouse> ok
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# [18:17] <techouse> fine then :) thanx!
# [18:17] <ghinda> no prob, don't be evil
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# [18:23] <techouse> ghinda: actually i found a way to do it with jQuery and YQL
# [18:23] <techouse> = EVIL :D
# [18:24] <ghinda> techouse: if you use the same url every time, yql will do
# [18:24] <techouse> :)
# [18:24] <ghinda> basicly, yql replaces the php proxy I was talking about
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# [18:24] <techouse> yep
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# [18:45] <dangerousdave> evening
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# [18:45] <ghinda> dangerousdave: romero, is that you?
# [18:46] <dangerousdave> ghinda: nope
# [18:46] <dangerousdave> its dave
# [18:46] <dangerousdave> dangerousdave
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# [18:47] <ghinda_> dangerousdave: dangerous dave - john romero - was a joke
# [18:47] <dangerousdave> ghinda_: ahhhhhhh
# [18:48] <dangerousdave> sorry, long frustrating day, bit slow
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# [18:49] <dangerousdave> anyone familiar with this meta tag for ipad? <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" />
# [18:50] <ghinda_> dangerousdave: http://www.quirksmode.org/mobile/viewports.html
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# [18:51] <dangerousdave> ghinda_: reading, thanks
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# [18:53] <miketaylr> ?g andreas bovens dev opera meta viewport
# [18:53] <bot-t> miketaylr, An introduction to meta viewport and @viewport - Dev.Opera - http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/an-introduction-to-meta-viewport-and-viewport/
# [18:54] <miketaylr> better article, IMO, dangerousdave
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# [18:55] <dangerousdave> will also read thanks
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# [19:01] <dangerousdave> so, for an ipad screen for example, is <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" /> the same as <meta name="viewport" content="width=768" />?
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# [19:05] <miketaylr> if that's the width of an ipad, yeah
# [19:05] <miketaylr> but it has the benifit of working on other devices without constraining them to that specific width
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# [19:10] <dangerousdave> miketaylr: when i switch between the 2, they look quite different
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# [19:10] <miketaylr> oh yeah?
# [19:10] <miketaylr> sorry, i don't have an ipad
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# [19:12] <dangerousdave> miketaylr: thanks anyway, very odd...
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# [19:35] <tekmosis> I read a while back that the HTML5 spec from WC3 isn't actually the "official" spec and that some other group was in charge. I can't remember the details; does anyone know who's doing the spec other than WC3?
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# [19:41] <Pomax> you heard wrong.
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# [19:50] <Ms2ger> tekmosis (who is gone): the WHATWG works on the HTML spec, W3C maintains a fork called HTML5
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# [20:10] <tantek> Ms2ger, HTML5 is more of a stable branch than a fork IMHO - vast majority of changes made to HTML5 are also made in WHATWG HTML.
# [20:10] <Ms2ger> The other way around, but sure :)
# [20:11] <tantek> No I meant it precisely as stated ;)
# [20:11] <tantek> (otherwise "vast majority" doesn't quite apply)
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# [20:18] <Ms2ger> Depends on how you define HTML5, I guess
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# [20:19] <tantek> Ms2ger - per http://blog.whatwg.org/html-is-the-new-html5 - WHATWG is evolving "HTML" and W3C is stabilizing the snapshot known as HTML5.
# [20:20] <tantek> HTML5 is http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/
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# [20:40] <s5fs> Hi everyone! I'm looking for some real-world examples of html5 mobile forms. I've got a current form with a ton of front-end validation and I'm looking at how to port it. Any advice/input is appreciated.
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# [20:52] <cgcardona> just workin. You?
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# [20:53] <cgcardona> the story of my life ^
# [20:53] <tw2113> i have some motivation now that i know they want the site up by the 5th
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# [21:40] <jarek> why it's not allowed to have more than one ID on an element?
# [21:40] <Ms2ger> Why would you do that?
# [21:41] <jarek> Ms2ger: there are many use cases where this could be helpful
# [21:41] <Ms2ger> Send them to the list
# [21:41] <jarek> Ms2ger: OK, actually it's not that big deal
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# [21:42] <jarek> I was just wondering what was the rationale behind that
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# [21:45] <Pomax> an id identifies a single element.
# [21:45] <Pomax> by definition, you can't have more than one element that is itself.
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# [21:46] <Pomax> if you want to classify certain elements as part of some group, you can use CSS classes
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# [21:46] <Pomax> or rather, you can use the class attribute, which happens to be CSS stylable, and css-selector selectable.
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# [21:52] <jarek__> Pomax: I don't want to classify element, I just want to assign two (or more) unique identifiers to the same element
# [21:52] <jarek__> for example lets say that I have three dialogs: <div id="dialog1">, <div id="dialog2">, <div id="dialog3>
# [21:52] <jarek__> only one dialog might be active at any given time
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# [21:53] <Pomax> class="active" done
# [21:53] <jarek__> so when dialog one is activated then <div id="dialog1 active"> would make more sense
# [21:53] <Pomax> ids are for identifying unique elements in the DOM
# [21:53] <Pomax> no it wouldn't.
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# [21:53] <Pomax> because "active" indicates a role, not an identity.
# [21:53] <jarek__> it would make more sense for me :)
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# [21:54] <Pomax> for roles, you use classes. The element "dialog1" sometimes has the role "active", and sometimes it doesn't. That variable nature makes it a class
# [21:54] <jarek__> I get it now
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# [22:05] <wbednarski> Hi! What is the best solution for file uploading through ajax?
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# [22:07] <jarek__> wbednarski: check "HTML5 drag & drop"
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# [22:08] <jarek__> wbednarski: it's not really AJAX, it's easier than that
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# [22:09] <jarek__> no, wait... once you drag the file you will still have to send the data to server
# [22:09] <jarek__> I think I have misunderstand the question :P
# [22:10] <jarek__> s/misunderstand/misunderstood
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# [22:11] <wbednarski> jarek__ I'm looking for script/plugin I can use for upload image from web page using ajax
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# [22:26] <BrianBlakely> Fullscreen API finally ships UNF UNF UNF
# [22:26] <Pomax> wbednarski, there's a million ajax file upload scripts out there, "best" depends on what you value most =)
# [22:27] <BrianBlakely> And the HTML5 YouTube player had it all the time unnngggg
# [22:27] <BrianBlakely> :pant pant:
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# [22:28] <tw2113> "Hi, you can't afford my specialty"
# [22:28] <drublic_> wbednarski: here you go https://github.com/valums/file-uploader
# [22:28] <tw2113> oops wrong window
# [22:30] <BrianBlakely> haha
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# [22:33] <BrianBlakely> Cool. http://minimal.be/lab/Sprite3D/examples/titleExample.html <- 14fps on iPhone 4 | 25fps on iPhone 4S
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# [22:35] <BrianBlakely> I consider 25fps to be the point where usable framerates begin
# [22:36] <BrianBlakely> Unfortunately, the Space Harrier demo crashed Mobile Safari (le sigh)
# [22:36] <tantek_> jarek - I tend to agree, would be useful to have multiple IDs per element just as you can have multiple classes (and all the benefits that brings)
# [22:36] <BrianBlakely> Holy crap, then I re-ran it and it's going 60fps
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# [22:40] <wbednarski> drublic_ thx
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# [22:47] <paul_irish> hey drublic_
# [22:47] <drublic_> hey paul_irish :)
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# [22:52] <TecSg> i begin html 5
# [22:53] <TecSg> want some tutoril for canvas ?
# [22:53] <TecSg> any suggestion ?
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# [22:54] <manuchill> TecSg, you could have a look here: http://html5doctor.com/an-introduction-to-the-canvas-2d-api/
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# [22:58] <TecSg> thanks
# [22:59] <TecSg> what browser now that support html5 ?
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# [23:00] <mkbu95> all
# [23:00] <boringcaptcha> is there an official pastebin to use?
# [23:00] <mkbu95> i mean, latest version of ie, ff, chrome, opera, safari
# [23:00] <manuchill> TecSg, http://caniuse.com/canvas
# [23:00] <paul_irish> TecSg: caniuse.com
# [23:01] <paul_irish> boringcaptcha: jsfiddle
# [23:01] <TecSg> thanks guy
# [23:01] <boringcaptcha> paul_irish: ooo, good call
# [23:02] <drublic_> paul_irish: any reason behind using border-radus with prefixes in css3please? Or am I just missing something in issue 67?
# [23:04] <boringcaptcha> okay, so i have this: http://jsfiddle.net/yeYFL/ the rects are working as intended, but i can't seem to get concentric arcs to fill with different colors. what am i doing wrong?
# [23:04] <paul_irish> drublic_: can u link me to 67 plzz
# [23:05] <boringcaptcha> the t_drawShellAtCenter calls are where things seem to be going wrong
# [23:05] <drublic_> paul_irish: sure https://github.com/paulirish/css3please/issues/67
# [23:05] <socialhapy> ★ Issue #67 on css3please, reported by paulirish (1m, 1w ago): determine Android and iOS support of unprefixed box-shadow
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# [23:08] <paul_irish> drublic_: awesome. data looks great. can you give me a pull req which includes the browser data ?
# [23:08] <drublic_> paul_irish: yep
# [23:08] <paul_irish> awesomeee
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# [23:26] <chovy> hello
# [23:29] <boringcaptcha> ...anyone?
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