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  26. # [00:34] <chovy> CORS?
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  28. # [00:34] <manuchill> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cross-Origin_Resource_Sharing
  29. # [00:35] <chovy> oh yeah
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  31. # [00:35] <chovy> i'm using those.
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  101. # [02:11] <MooCalifornia> how could I find out whether mozGetAsFile() support quality parameters for jpeg?
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  116. # [02:43] <tw2113> ack! it's miketaylr
  117. # [02:43] <miketaylr> RUN
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  138. # [03:08] <Vier> Hey guys anyone know if chrome canary implements the peer to peer api yet?
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  140. # [03:08] <ryanseddon> Nope
  141. # [03:08] <ryanseddon> Pushed back to b18
  142. # [03:08] <ryanseddon> v18*
  143. # [03:08] <ryanseddon> says the bug
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  145. # [03:09] <ryanseddon> Star that to know when it's in http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=41776
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  149. # [03:12] <Vier> Ah thanks ryanseddon :)
  150. # [03:13] <ryanseddon> np
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  178. # [04:10] <MooCalifornia> I have a Blob object. How do I stick it into <input type=file>?
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  183. # [04:13] <MooCalifornia> or am I doing it wrong?
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  195. # [04:35] <ryanseddon> MooCalifornia: you can't do that, what are you trying to do with the blob?
  196. # [04:36] <MooCalifornia> ryanseddon: I created a client-size image resizer lib for Javascript
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  198. # [04:36] <ryanseddon> and you wanna upload it?
  199. # [04:36] <MooCalifornia> I hope have it as drop-in replacement for <input type=file>
  200. # [04:37] <ryanseddon> so you're replacing the file input with the ability to drop an image into the browser?
  201. # [04:38] <MooCalifornia> ryanseddon: no - the images are shrink before upload in the browser instead on the server side
  202. # [04:39] <MooCalifornia> but looks like I cannot make it 1:1 drop-in script - because blobs must be XHR'ed
  203. # [04:40] <MooCalifornia> FileList API is read only
  204. # [04:40] <ryanseddon> yes you'll need to xhr the blob, have a look at the FormData API
  205. # [04:40] <ryanseddon> You can do things like var fd = new FormData(); fd.append(blob)
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  221. # [05:13] <tw2113> jacine sup
  222. # [05:13] <jacine> tw2113: chillin.
  223. # [05:13] <tw2113> tweetin a bit
  224. # [05:14] <jacine> tw2113: yes, I need to shut my twitter app down. LOL.
  225. # [05:14] <jacine> tw2113: I've been having a crazy few days. So busy with drupal stuff.
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  227. # [05:15] * jacine needs to get back to paid work at some point.
  228. # [05:15] <tw2113> heh, paid is good
  229. # [05:16] <jacine> yeah. i am slacking right now.
  230. # [05:16] <tw2113> same
  231. # [05:16] <jacine> not looking forward to coding this mega menu i need to do. LOL.
  232. # [05:16] <tw2113> plus trying to get clinic recommendations from the people of tweeter
  233. # [05:16] <jacine> what kind of clinic?
  234. # [05:17] <tw2113> i'll PM it to keep the room on topic
  235. # [05:17] <jacine> oh i see… nevermind
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  258. # [05:46] <Vier> D you guys make web apps for fun or work?
  259. # [05:46] <Vier> Do*
  260. # [05:47] <Vier> I do it for fun, when I have the time. I have a stack of programming projects I only made for fun, do you?
  261. # [05:48] <grantg> indeed
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  366. # [07:44] <jarek> http://gs.statcounter.com/
  367. # [07:44] <jarek> Chrome has now 25% of the market
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  370. # [07:53] <monteslu> that was quick
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  374. # [08:03] <MooCalifornia> is it possible to do canvas stuff in web worker?
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  377. # [08:06] <MooCalifornia> looks like no go
  378. # [08:06] <MooCalifornia> makes moo a sad man
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  381. # [08:09] <jarek> MooCalifornia: it's not possible to access any DOM node from webworkers
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  388. # [08:17] <jarek> but I remember some Web Workers demos that were using Canvas
  389. # [08:17] <jarek> I guess they were doing some advanced computations, it's not really useful for simple drawings
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  398. # [08:34] <gyzmodo> they removed time
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  802. # [14:19] <ghinda> anybody familiar with h5bp, what's the point of the mylibs folder?
  803. # [14:20] <divya> ghinda: it is where you put your own libraries
  804. # [14:20] <divya> that do not come with h5bp
  805. # [14:20] <divya> e.g. some shopping cart library etc
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  808. # [14:21] <ghinda> divya: if I don't use it, and point both the lib and mylibs folders to the same location, in the build script config, it seems to brake
  809. # [14:21] <ghinda> is there any way to exclude the mylibs folder from the build script
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  812. # [14:23] <Anomie21> Hello, Trying to get my site to load in IE; http://www.rutherglenfurniturecentre.co.uk/
  813. # [14:23] <Anomie21> Is it never going to load because I've used a HTML5 template? or have I done something wrong?
  814. # [14:23] <divya> ghinda: i think so. in project.properties look for file.exclude
  815. # [14:23] <divya> and add that folder
  816. # [14:24] <ghinda> divya: thanks!
  817. # [14:27] <drublic> ghinda: if you want to use another name for the folder, you can use dir.js.mylibs = newfolder in the project.properties, just if you ever need it ;)
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  860. # [15:29] <shawn_dones> Heeeyyyy Guuuyss!!
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  863. # [15:33] <ghinda> is there a way to enable touch events in ff, without a touchscreen, to use with a mouse?
  864. # [15:40] <paul_irish> ghinda: this may be helpful https://github.com/borismus/MagicTouch
  865. # [15:40] <bot-t> (18 secs ago) <rwaldron> tell paul_irish my (step) dad's name is James Robinson, so reading that email, I imagined my dad was talking about rAF
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  868. # [15:42] <ghinda> paul_irish: thanks!
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  907. # [16:31] <hkhalid> yo
  908. # [16:31] <jakefolio> yo yo hello
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  915. # [16:38] <hober> happy plenary day
  916. # [16:38] <paul_irish> \o/
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  918. # [16:39] <hkhalid> dudes
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  921. # [16:40] <hkhalid> do you guys think html5 will replace native apps?
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  923. # [16:41] <jakefolio> replace? no…..be utilized more with the advancement of browsers? yes
  924. # [16:42] <jakefolio> native apps can still manage memory…..access i/o….etc.
  925. # [16:42] <hkhalid> hmmm
  926. # [16:42] <hkhalid> I See
  927. # [16:42] <hkhalid> making native Android apps is hell
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  929. # [16:42] <JonathanNeal> hoya
  930. # [16:42] <hkhalid> hi
  931. # [16:42] <jakefolio> use phonegap or titanium if you don't want to do java
  932. # [16:42] <hkhalid> true
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  935. # [16:48] <paul_irish> hober: divya says hi.
  936. # [16:48] <paul_irish> and this was the most effective way for me to deliver the message. :p
  937. # [16:48] <divya> ORLY
  938. # [16:49] <paul_irish> lol yup.
  939. # [16:50] <hober> paul_irish: word
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  941. # [16:50] <hober> divya: hi! sadface with this whole divya-not-at-tpac thing
  942. # [16:51] <JonathanNeal> so are there new and now deprecrated elements in the html5 spec?
  943. # [16:51] <JonathanNeal> no more <time> and wasn't something else added?
  944. # [16:52] <divya> hober: hi! hahaha. was it such a big deal? :P
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  946. # [16:53] <hober> divya: by day 3 of css, yes! :)
  947. # [16:54] <divya> :P
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  987. # [17:52] <jsvana> Why do the recommended ways to clear a canvas not work?
  988. # [17:52] <jsvana> I've tried clearRect, resetting width, and resetting transforms.
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  992. # [17:58] <Ms2ger> They do
  993. # [17:58] <jsvana> Ms2ger: Then what am I doing wrong? I clearRect(0, 0, width, height) and get nothing.
  994. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> Can't tell you without a test case
  995. # [17:59] <jsvana> go to jsvana.com and press the arrow keys
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  998. # [18:02] <Ms2ger> A breakpoint in clearCanvas doesn't seem to be hit
  999. # [18:03] <jakefolio> ya, looks like you defined clearCanvas….but never call it in your code
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  1001. # [18:04] <jakefolio> were you wanting to clear when "update" is true?
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  1011. # [18:10] <chovy_> good morning.
  1012. # [18:10] <chovy_> .
  1013. # [18:10] <Pomax> not yet. my router's still messed up, so I have no idea how many times I'll ping out today
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  1017. # [18:11] <chovy> hi
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  1024. # [18:16] <jsvana> Ms2ger: I'm just using clearRect right now, I misspoke. still doesn't seem to be working.
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  1026. # [18:19] <MooCalifornia> jsvana: please do a isolated test case in jsfiddle.net and we can see if we can fix the code
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  1035. # [18:30] <jsvana> Hm. When I generate a test case on jsfiddle, it works, but when I try it otherwise, it doesn't work.
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  1037. # [18:31] <MooCalifornia> jsvana: there must be something you are missing in the equation
  1038. # [18:31] <jsvana> MooCalifornia: Clearly, but I have no idea what.
  1039. # [18:32] <jsvana> I do the same thing.
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  1042. # [18:34] <jsvana> MooCalifornia: http://jsfiddle.net/5CYQ2/5/
  1043. # [18:35] <jsvana> looking between this and jsvana.com, can you see anything different?
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  1047. # [18:36] <MooCalifornia> jsvana: checking
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  1049. # [18:38] <MooCalifornia> jsvana: I am not sure I think jsvana.com doesn't work for me as it is not drawing my player(?) at all
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  1051. # [18:39] <jsvana> MooCalifornia: press awsd
  1052. # [18:39] <MooCalifornia> jsvana: yes, it works on jsfiddle.net
  1053. # [18:40] <MooCalifornia> it updates coordinates
  1054. # [18:40] <MooCalifornia> but does not draw player
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  1056. # [18:40] <jsvana> hm. well, another issue lol. Any ideas?
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  1060. # [18:45] <MooCalifornia> jsvana: socket.io issue?
  1061. # [18:45] <MooCalifornia> out of client slots or something
  1062. # [18:45] <MooCalifornia> bad id
  1063. # [18:45] <MooCalifornia> no idea :(
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  1065. # [18:45] <jsvana> it's just a drawing thing, though...
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  1088. # [19:15] <hashpuppy> what's wrong with this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/501839/. it seems like some float isn't getting cleared
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  1091. # [19:16] <philihp> anyone know the names/twitter handles of people who work on IE?
  1092. # [19:17] <philihp> i would like to tell them that when i type "localhost:7001/console" in the address bar, that that wasn't something i wanted to search Bing! with.
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  1094. # [19:21] <MooCalifornia> philihp: and you bet they would be interest in to listen to you? :)
  1095. # [19:22] <philihp> haha, well it might make me feel better at least.
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  1123. # [20:05] <ghinda> you guys, any idea why the rotate isn't updating on hover: http://jsfiddle.net/3382z/ ?
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  1133. # [20:13] <hkhalid> hi
  1134. # [20:13] <MooCalifornia> yo
  1135. # [20:13] <hkhalid> whats up monteslu and ghinda
  1136. # [20:14] <ghinda> hkhalid: having a bud. i wish
  1137. # [20:14] <hkhalid> smoking bud?
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  1139. # [20:14] <hkhalid> or urine smelling budweiser?
  1140. # [20:16] <MooCalifornia> budweiser is the heineken of US
  1141. # [20:16] <ghinda> MooCalifornia: no, heineken is better
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  1143. # [20:17] <hkhalid> what are you dudes using html5 for
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  1155. # [20:27] <monteslu> heya hkhalid
  1156. # [20:27] <hkhalid> monteslu, sup with you?
  1157. # [20:28] <monteslu> haha, i think you were talking to MooCalifornia but my name came up :)
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  1159. # [20:29] <hkhalid> when did your name come up
  1160. # [20:31] <monteslu> about 25 lines back
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  1163. # [20:34] <hkhalid> ohhh you are correct, my bad
  1164. # [20:34] <hkhalid> MooCalifornia, mooo
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  1167. # [20:35] <MooCalifornia> hkhalid: I am sorry - if you are looking a generic chat buddy this might not be a proper forum
  1168. # [20:36] <hkhalid> thats not what im here or looking for
  1169. # [20:36] <hkhalid> calm down
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  1173. # [20:39] <monteslu> all good
  1174. # [20:41] <hkhalid> im lookin for html5 buddies
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  1176. # [20:41] <monteslu> hkhalid, there might be more specific channels for each topic you're interested in
  1177. # [20:42] <monteslu> lots of friendly people working on html5 games in #bbg
  1178. # [20:42] <hkhalid> oh sweet
  1179. # [20:42] <hkhalid> this is exactly what I needed
  1180. # [20:42] <hkhalid> thanks!
  1181. # [20:43] <monteslu> no prob
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  1184. # [20:46] <MooCalifornia> hkhalid: no prob :)
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  1186. # [20:47] <MooCalifornia> people usually come here for questions only :)
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  1285. # [23:18] <tiglionabbit> hm. My co-worker is telling me I shouldn't have more than 1 h1 on a page, for seo reasons. I can never decide what headings to use for what though. Should they only be used for main article content? What if you want to put them in the masthead or nav?
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  1294. # [23:26] <acidjazz> hey guys
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  1296. # [23:26] <acidjazz> huge question
  1297. # [23:26] <acidjazz> is SVG HTML5?
  1298. # [23:27] <tw2113> no
  1299. # [23:27] <acidjazz> thougth so
  1300. # [23:27] <acidjazz> where can i find a url or something explaining that
  1301. # [23:27] <acidjazz> cuz shits goin DOWN i need backup
  1302. # [23:27] <tw2113> svg predates html5 spec discussion
  1303. # [23:27] <acidjazz> pardon my french :)
  1304. # [23:27] <acidjazz> i thougth so ... svg is 2001 ?
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  1306. # [23:27] <Jon47> or even earlier
  1307. # [23:28] <Jon47> wikipedia says 1999
  1308. # [23:28] <hober> you can use SVG inline in HTML documents as of HTML5
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  1312. # [23:31] <manuchill> inline svg depends on browser support, not "as of html5"
  1313. # [23:32] <franksalim> inline svg in html is new
  1314. # [23:32] <tantek> Very new
  1315. # [23:32] <franksalim> html5 new
  1316. # [23:32] <tantek> As of mid 2010 - it didn't work in *any* browser
  1317. # [23:32] <manuchill> opera 12 alpha supports it, so it's new indeed
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  1320. # [23:33] <manuchill> see: http://caniuse.com/svg-html5
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  1322. # [23:36] <ryanneufeld> anyone recommend a good canvas library?
  1323. # [23:38] <MooCalifornia> ryanneufeld: I have been fine without a library
  1324. # [23:38] <ryanneufeld> MooCalifornia: that's fantastic, but unhelpful
  1325. # [23:38] <MooCalifornia> :I
  1326. # [23:39] <MooCalifornia> I know
  1327. # [23:39] <MooCalifornia> but haven't yet had a problem where library could have somehow taken me to another level
  1328. # [23:39] <MooCalifornia> ryanneufeld: so you need to ask
  1329. # [23:39] <MooCalifornia> anyone recommend a good canvas library <for this specific need>?
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  1331. # [23:41] <ryanneufeld> I need to draw stuff on the canvas, Is there a library that will make that job easier for me
  1332. # [23:41] <ryanneufeld> ?
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  1334. # [23:42] <franksalim> ryanneufeld: what would you like to draw?
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  1337. # [23:48] <ryanneufeld> geometric shapes?
  1338. # [23:48] <ryanneufeld> rectangles mostly
  1339. # [23:49] <ryanneufeld> building a timeline, need to have stuff displayed nicely with some animation
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  1341. # [23:49] <ryanneufeld> thought there might be something out there that could simplify the tasks a bit
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  1343. # [23:50] <danielfilho> hey :)
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  1349. # [23:56] <budmaddock1> ryanneufeld: There are some excellent examples of svg graphics and there is inkscape. Canvas elements follow closely on the naming as syntax of svg. Code written in inkscape can be inspected for structural examples and tricks. You will probably need to use a temporary canvas for animation and multiple rectangles. Have a look here for some tutorial assistance: \url{https://github.com/borismus/MagicTouch}
  1350. # [23:56] <ryanneufeld> budmaddock1: thanks
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  1355. # [23:58] <OzDave_imac> there is another editor called Amaya for svg content as well which seems decent
  1356. # [23:58] <OzDave_imac> inkscape is great btw' as well
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