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  52. # [01:20] <jarek> Hello
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  54. # [01:20] <franksalim> hi
  55. # [01:20] <jarek> is it possible to make the cursor always visible in contentEditable div?
  56. # [01:20] <jarek> by default it disappears when the div loses focus
  57. # [01:22] <MooCalifornia> jarek: probably not
  58. # [01:22] <MooCalifornia> sounds like OS behavior over which HTML5 does not have control
  59. # [01:23] <jarek> so I will have to create a fake cursor?
  60. # [01:24] <jarek> I think I have seen an editor which was always showing the cursor
  61. # [01:24] <jarek> though so there must be (probably hackish) way to do this
  62. # [01:24] <jarek> s/though/,
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  162. # [05:10] <jarek> why there are both document.getSelection() and window.getSelection()?
  163. # [05:10] <jarek> what's the difference between them?
  164. # [05:10] <jarek> afaik window can't have more than one document (unless iframes are used)
  165. # [05:22] <Pomax> document.getSelection is mostly a 'handy alias' for window.getSelection
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  168. # [05:23] <Pomax> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/document.getSelection
  169. # [05:26] <jarek> Pomax: ok, thanks
  170. # [05:26] <jarek> but I must admit that it's confusing
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  172. # [05:27] <jarek> it would make sense for DOM methods to be placed in document object
  173. # [05:28] <jarek> no, wait... window object has DOMWindow in prototype chain
  174. # [05:28] <jarek> nvm
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  313. # [11:46] <grantg> paul_irish: Someone managed to push broken code to chrome stable breaking audio again.
  314. # [11:46] <grantg> D:
  315. # [11:46] <grantg> audio drops ftw
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  317. # [11:55] <grantg> Heh, looks like someone broke unicode in chrome
  318. # [11:56] <grantg> (I use fromCharCode for number->unicode conversion)
  319. # [11:56] <grantg> for npapi bridge binary compression
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  471. # [15:14] <SrPx> hello, anyone there?
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  473. # [15:16] <SrPx> what are all the options for making browser games? html5+javascript, flash, java applets. is there another?
  474. # [15:17] <RemsSs> bonjour, quelqu'un peut maider pour du html css
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  476. # [15:25] <grampajoe> SrPx, you can make them any way you want. I've seen them rendered in the favicon.
  477. # [15:25] <SrPx> grampajoe: but define any way you want
  478. # [15:26] <|3b|> does html < 5 + javascript count as a separate option? :p
  479. # [15:27] <|3b|> and if plugins count (like flash and java are for most browsers), you can write all the plugins you want, or use things like unity
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  481. # [15:32] <Dr4g> Anyone know a tool for doing screen recording that records your webcam at the same time?
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  486. # [15:36] <OzDave_imac> camtwist?
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  489. # [15:44] <Dr4g> OzDave_imac: have you used it personally ?
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  491. # [15:48] <JNZ> Dr4g: Microsoft's Expression Studio has a recording thing
  492. # [15:48] <JNZ> It's intended for screen recording presentations with webcam or microphone (or both) annotations
  493. # [15:48] <JNZ> Presentations, conferences, that whole thing.
  494. # [15:48] <Dr4g> JNZ: good to now; i'm on a Mac though :)
  495. # [15:49] <JNZ> Come to the dark side :p
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  499. # [15:50] <JNZ> Surely if you've purchased a mac you can buy a new computer, get Windows for it, purchase Expression Studio (the highest end version) and then put it in your brand new house which you paid 80% more for because you liked the branding ;)
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  513. # [16:10] <paul_irish> whats the best script for doing your basic inheritance in JS?
  514. # [16:11] <paul_irish> how about http://jsclass.jcoglan.com/ . OKAY GREAT
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  519. # [16:24] <NetRoY> has anyone here written an app that uses websql/indexedDB ... with lots of callbacks ... I'm curious how everyone is managing the control flow
  520. # [16:24] <NetRoY> any preferred lib for async stuff ?
  521. # [16:25] <NetRoY> i'm trying to write my own.. but it's getting a bit confusing
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  525. # [16:31] <paul_irish> NetRoY: i saw a nice "jquery indexeddb plugin" which just used deferreds to make for a better api
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  527. # [16:36] <NetRoY> paul_irish: i've seen this http://nparashuram.com/IndexedDB/jquery/index.html .. but was looking for opinions from people who have built similar apps .. want to skip all the research :D
  528. # [16:36] <paul_irish> word
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  534. # [16:56] <mr_lou> Someone explain to me the logic in not supporting MIDI files with the <audio> tag.
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  576. # [18:17] <drublic> hey guys, has anyone a really good recommendations for a simple js color-picker? (my favourite is farbtastic atm. but maybe i'm missing some really good ones…)
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  582. # [18:27] <MooCalifornia> drublic: when you find ou
  583. # [18:27] <MooCalifornia> give me a tip too
  584. # [18:27] <MooCalifornia> I tried to search one another day
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  586. # [18:27] <MooCalifornia> find no good
  587. # [18:27] <drublic> MooCalifornia: I will do that, but i think i will stick to farbtastic
  588. # [18:28] <MooCalifornia> farbtastic?
  589. # [18:28] <MooCalifornia> sounds hipster
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  591. # [18:29] <Akarak> hello
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  599. # [18:46] <drublic> MooCalifornia: It was hipster back in 2007 http://acko.net/dev/farbtastic ;)
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  603. # [18:48] <MooCalifornia> FYI http://opensourcehacker.com/2011/11/05/javascript-how-to-avoid-the-bad-parts/
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  605. # [18:48] <MooCalifornia> missed my lighting talk slot today, because Android clock had automatically adjusted itself to Finnish winter time :(
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  613. # [19:08] <MooCalifornia> drublic: so you are german? :)
  614. # [19:08] <drublic> MooCalifornia: right :)
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  617. # [19:12] <MooCalifornia> oo farbtastic is <canvas>
  618. # [19:12] <MooCalifornia> nice
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  730. # [22:50] <johnkpaul_> is anyone else geting an 403 when attempting to browser google doctype? http://code.google.com/doctype/
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  734. # [22:56] <paul_irish> its dead, jim.
  735. # [22:56] <paul_irish> archive.org has most of it
  736. # [22:56] <paul_irish> johnkpaul_:
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  742. # [23:01] <johnkpaul_> oh :/, it's dead purposefully?
  743. # [23:03] <divya> you should check MDN
  744. # [23:03] <divya> its where everything is at.
  745. # [23:04] <johnkpaul_> yeah, will do
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  748. # [23:17] <paul_irish> johnkpaul_: doctype was mostly out of date anyway. maybe 3 articles on it were still awesome.
  749. # [23:17] <paul_irish> divya: i think i might pull the utf7 article and republish that
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  756. # [23:23] <johnkpaul_> I Just happened to notice the old bookmark and wanted to see what was going on
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