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  84. # [03:18] <martisj> can i use multiple h1 tags inside of an article element?
  85. # [03:18] <jarek> martisj: yes
  86. # [03:18] <martisj> sweet :)
  87. # [03:18] <martisj> jarek: thanks!!!
  88. # [03:19] <jarek> martisj: but you shouldn't do this if you care for SEO
  89. # [03:19] <martisj> jarek: I knew there was a catch :)
  90. # [03:20] <martisj> for something like this, what would be the best way to markup the sentences in bold, http://stiftelsesforeningen.martinsjastad.com/hvorfor-bli-medlem.html
  91. # [03:21] <jarek> martisj: I would use h1 tag for the red text and h2 tags for bold texts
  92. # [03:22] <martisj> jarek: so that means I need to use multiple h2's right?
  93. # [03:22] <martisj> Would you put it all in one article, or in separate ones like I've done atm
  94. # [03:22] <martisj> ?
  95. # [03:23] <jarek> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/article
  96. # [03:23] <jarek> "... this could be a forum post, a magazine or newspaper article, a blog entry, a user-submitted comment, an interactive widget or gadget, or any other independent item of content."
  97. # [03:24] <jarek> I guess it would make more sense to put all paragraphs in single article
  98. # [03:24] <jarek> but I don't think that it really matters that much
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  100. # [03:24] <martisj> jarek: I agree
  101. # [03:24] <martisj> It makes it a little more painless to put them all in one article tag for styling purposes.
  102. # [03:25] <jarek> actually, I use only div and span tags in my apps
  103. # [03:25] <jarek> because I don't care how they are parsed by search engines (all markup is JS-generated anyway)
  104. # [03:25] <martisj> for backwards compatibility? Or just because the html5 spec isn't finished
  105. # [03:26] <martisj> jarek: well that makes a lot of sense to be honest
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  118. # [04:10] <Danny_Joris> Hi all - a few questions about html5 audio: Is there a way to stream a file without the ability to download the file?
  119. # [04:11] <Danny_Joris> I'd love to use mediaelement.js for audio playback: There is no playlist support. Is it easy to write this yourself?
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  135. # [04:28] <Danny_Joris> jplayer could be cool too..
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  188. # [06:04] <Guest8843> helloi
  189. # [06:04] <Guest8843> hello
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  196. # [06:33] <martisj> hello
  197. # [06:33] <paul_irish> hi
  198. # [06:34] <martisj> Sunday afternoon delight :)
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  210. # [06:56] <martisj> paul_irish: is there a channel for the html5boilerplate?
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  219. # [07:13] <divya> martisj: no this is it.
  220. # [07:13] <martisj> divya: Thanks :)
  221. # [07:14] <martisj> You see I tried using the latest build script (from 5 days ago) but it gave me a weird error, and my builds always turn out different than the development version.
  222. # [07:14] <divya> oh?
  223. # [07:14] <divya> wht error martisj?
  224. # [07:15] <martisj> hang on I'll get it back up
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  227. # [07:27] <tw2113> divya in response to your Banksy G+ post...does he still work anonymously? or did he present a public face now?
  228. # [07:27] <divya> still anonymous
  229. # [07:27] <tw2113> i wonder how he got that moved in there with all the people there
  230. # [07:28] <tw2113> musta been magic
  231. # [07:28] <divya> he got minions now
  232. # [07:28] <tw2113> ahhh
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  236. # [07:39] <martisj> divya: it seems somebody added a fix for it https://github.com/h5bp/html5-boilerplate/issues/837
  237. # [07:39] <socialhapy> ★ Issue #837 on html5-boilerplate, reported by martisj (4d, 13h ago): Ant Build fails: (elseif doesn't support the nested "delete" element)
  238. # [07:40] <divya> o neat
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  253. # [08:46] <martisj> I forgot to show what happens after I run the build script (using an older version that worked for me), this is before http://dev.martinsjastad.com/before-build/ and this is after http://dev.martinsjastad.com/after-build/
  254. # [08:46] <martisj> anybody know what could be the cause?
  255. # [08:46] <martisj> I must be using the H5BP so wrong :(
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  264. # [09:52] <bourbaki> greetings
  265. # [09:52] <bourbaki> is there a website that you can filter ads with? that is like adblock just as a website so you can use it on the ipad
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  280. # [10:25] <niftylettuce> no :hover detection :'(
  281. # [10:26] <niftylettuce> can anyone explain why this bug occurs? http://code.google.com/p/ie7-js/issues/detail?id=314
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  283. # [10:27] <niftylettuce> just curious :
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  286. # [10:32] <niftylettuce> according to Modernizr FB page, Chrome desktop version has touch events? is this only on computers that have a multi-touch pad? I did a test with iPhone vs desktop Chrome for Modernizr.touch detection and Chrome didn't detect.. so I'm curious now about this too :)
  287. # [10:32] <niftylettuce> I'm guessing the answer is yes since its a feature detection -.-
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  293. # [10:37] <martisj> how do I exclude jquery from my html5 boilerplate site?
  294. # [10:37] <niftylettuce> martisj: delete the script tag for it
  295. # [10:38] <martisj> niftylettuce: hahaha lol. too easy :)
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  297. # [10:39] <divya> martisj: whay you mean?
  298. # [10:39] <divya> what*
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  301. # [10:44] <martisj> i have no need for jquery in my project, cam i just remove the script tag and the jquery files?
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  305. # [10:46] <sean`> martisj, sure
  306. # [10:46] <martisj> nice :)
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  314. # [11:00] <martisj> i take it modernizr is an essential part of the boilerplate ?
  315. # [11:00] <martisj> can't delete that?
  316. # [11:00] <niftylettuce> martisj: read the docs for modernizr to see what she does :)
  317. # [11:01] <niftylettuce> martisj: feature detectionnnn
  318. # [11:01] <martisj> niftylettuce: hate that I have to stress to get the site done so the client is happy :(
  319. # [11:01] <niftylettuce> martisj: ?
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  321. # [11:03] <martisj> The client needs the site tonight and I decided to use the boilerplate as a starting point to try it out. Because I was hoping I could utilise the build script to minify and compress the site
  322. # [11:03] <martisj> and it's the first time i use the boilerplate.
  323. # [11:04] <martisj> Haven't had time to sit down and read the documentation for all the awesome features of H5BP
  324. # [11:05] <martisj> and when "ant build" gives me a different version of the site (dev.martinsjastad.com/before-build & dev.martinsjastad.com/after-build) it kind of defeats the purpose of why I decided to use the boilerplate
  325. # [11:05] <martisj> http://dev.martinsjastad.com/before-build & http://dev.martinsjastad.com/after-build
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  327. # [11:14] <martisj> does modernizr serve no purpose if the site is generally intended only to be viewed on a desktop machine/screen?
  328. # [11:15] <martisj> The client didn't ask/specify that they wanted mobile use for the site...
  329. # [11:15] <divya> martisj: are you using latest files from h5bp?
  330. # [11:15] <martisj> noe unfortunately not
  331. # [11:15] <martisj> *no
  332. # [11:15] <divya> martisj: you need to include your styles in a single stylesheet with @import if you are using ant build
  333. # [11:16] <divya> especially the latest one.
  334. # [11:16] <martisj> divya: ahhhh okay thanks!!!
  335. # [11:16] <divya> right now it seems like one of the css files is not included
  336. # [11:16] <martisj> yeah it's meant to be the css from the 960 gs
  337. # [11:16] <martisj> I added it using <link
  338. # [11:16] <martisj> *<link ...>
  339. # [11:16] <divya> yeah you can use with @ import if you are using the build script
  340. # [11:17] <martisj> okay nice :)
  341. # [11:18] <martisj> thanks :) hope that fixes my problem!! I'll give it a go!
  342. # [11:18] <martisj> last thing. should I put the @import at the bottom of the main css file ?
  343. # [11:18] <martisj> I guess so ?
  344. # [11:18] <divya> at the top
  345. # [11:19] <divya> right before other rules
  346. # [11:19] <divya> i think it should
  347. # [11:20] <divya> you can always do ant build dev to check
  348. # [11:20] <divya> 'ant build dev'
  349. # [11:20] <divya> it does not minify the files.
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  351. # [11:21] <divya> hi NetRoY :)
  352. # [11:21] <martisj> Atm the order of the link tags is style.css #1 and then 960.css #2
  353. # [11:21] <martisj> shouldn't 960 be at the bottom then?
  354. # [11:21] <NetRoY> hey divya ... u still around or back already ?
  355. # [11:21] <divya> NetRoY: back!
  356. # [11:21] <divya> but jetlagging.
  357. # [11:21] <NetRoY> :)
  358. # [11:21] <divya> martisj: you can @import #1 into #2?
  359. # [11:22] <divya> given its going to be all in one file
  360. # [11:22] <martisj> divya: why not #2 into #1 ?
  361. # [11:22] <martisj> http://html5boilerplate.com/docs/960.gs/
  362. # [11:22] <divya> because you might be overriding some #1 in #2?
  363. # [11:22] <divya> if not its fine.
  364. # [11:24] <martisj> divya: come to think of it, it makes more sense to import the framework at the top of the style.css
  365. # [11:24] <martisj> hmm..... i'll try
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  367. # [11:24] <divya> yeah it would martisj
  368. # [11:25] <divya> lemme know if it doesnt work though i think it should.
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  370. # [11:25] <martisj> yepp
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  372. # [11:29] <martisj> hmmm importing at the top didn't work. Is it bad practice to import it at the bottom?
  373. # [11:30] <martisj> @import url(./960/800_12_col.css); won't even work at all.....
  374. # [11:30] <martisj> regardless of where I put it.
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  377. # [11:39] <divya> martisj: no it wont work at bottom
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  379. # [11:40] <martisj> okay.. does it have to be the FIRST line in the css ?
  380. # [11:41] <divya> yes
  381. # [11:41] <martisj> ahha!!! Jesus what a headache
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  383. # [11:48] <martisj> ant build dev doesn't seem to work... I put the import after some css comments; should I put right at the Top?
  384. # [11:49] <martisj> (Target "dev" does not exist in the project "Boilerplate Build") when running ant build dev
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  386. # [11:53] <martisj> LOLOLOLOL I just found out that I haven't even setup my config. I thought it was ready right off the bat.... LOLOL
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  390. # [11:54] <divya> o?
  391. # [11:55] <martisj> I'm such a dud
  392. # [12:06] <divya> martisj: even ant build should work :/
  393. # [12:06] <martisj> regardless of config setup?
  394. # [12:06] <divya> martisj: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/952/blr/index.html#slide19 if you want a quick intro
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  396. # [12:06] <divya> yeah the default should work.
  397. # [12:06] <divya> out of the box
  398. # [12:08] <divya> martisj: can you show me your before build now?
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  405. # [12:21] <divya> martisj: does it work for you yet? :)
  406. # [12:22] <martisj> still trying to set up the config
  407. # [12:22] <divya> okay
  408. # [12:22] <divya> not sure if you need to though.
  409. # [12:23] <divya> also make sure you are using the latest build script.
  410. # [12:23] <divya> especially if you are on windows.
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  413. # [12:32] <martisj> okay thanks!! Got caught up skyping.....
  414. # [12:32] <martisj> Not on windows though
  415. # [12:33] <divya> ok
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  421. # [12:45] <martisj> uploading the before build now.
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  423. # [12:48] <martisj> http://dev.martinsjastad.com/before-build/
  424. # [12:48] <martisj> bbi10min
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  472. # [15:10] <Danny_Joris> I'm looking for a html5 player with flash fallback. I also need playlist functionality. jplayer seems to have that and mediaelement.js doesn't. What is the biggest difference between them?
  473. # [15:10] <Danny_Joris> are both flash fallbacks good?
  474. # [15:11] <Danny_Joris> I'm also looking for a way to prevent direct download of audio files in html5, but after searching all evening yesterday, it seems almost impossible.
  475. # [15:11] <Danny_Joris> Even bandcamp.com uses a tiny flash file
  476. # [15:12] <Danny_Joris> Not sure how they protect their mobile html5 applications though?
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  657. # [22:09] <paul_irish> agentcobra: shut up bro
  658. # [22:10] <agentcobra> ?
  659. # [22:12] <paul_irish> agentcobra: http://paulirish.com/i/00e8d0.png
  660. # [22:13] <tw2113> the away messages
  661. # [22:13] <agentcobra> sorry
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