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  47. # [01:41] <chovy> should html5 data attribute values be html entity encoded? And if so, is there a way to reverse them in Javascript?
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  49. # [01:41] <chovy> I would be using php's htmlentities($data)
  50. # [01:41] <chovy> <div data-name="{htmlentities($name)}" />
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  64. # [01:55] <florian> hello
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  66. # [01:56] <ricardoandres> hey hi
  67. # [01:56] <florian> I have a problem whith my website, do you think I can have some help in this place?
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  69. # [01:57] <ricardoandres> ha
  70. # [01:57] <ricardoandres> yeah sure
  71. # [01:57] <ricardoandres> we're here to help
  72. # [01:59] <florian> ok the problem is verry strange and verry simple. I have copy and past a code from facebook developper website, in order to have the like button. But on the home page of my website, I can see it under my articles (www.beautesenherbe.com) but on the url of an article, with the same code, the button is not present (for example http://www.beautesenherbe.com/2011/11/le-nouveau-beautes-en-herbe-est-arrive.html) where is the problem?
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  74. # [02:02] <florian> when i use firebug to inspect the button and the code seems to be present but I cant see it and I cant clic on it!
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  82. # [02:16] <florian> ricardoandres: do you know where the problem is?
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  116. # [03:15] <divya> some good stuff from music hack day http://drinkify.org/ and http://wiki.musichackday.org/index.php?title=Boston_2011_Hacks
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  133. # [03:43] <tw2113> anyone dare me to not prefix some box shadows that are simply decoration and not needed for functionality?
  134. # [03:45] <Jon47> it's about that time.
  135. # [03:45] <tw2113> Fx doesn't need it after 4, which is most people since the start of the year
  136. # [03:45] <tw2113> i left in the webkit one
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  223. # [06:46] <buht> hello, if im using a <video> and a <canvas> , and im using drawimage() on my canvas.. are there really 2 things showing my video?
  224. # [06:47] <buht> im asking because i was playing around with the 5 argument version of drawimage, and if i change the canvas width,height arguments then reload my page, i see the two video items shown.
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  230. # [06:56] <MooCalifornia> buht: yes
  231. # [06:56] <MooCalifornia> you need to hide orignal <video>
  232. # [06:56] <MooCalifornia> unless you want that visible also
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  234. # [06:57] <buht> MooCalifornia: , i am setting display to none in css on video, but then it doesnt show in the canvas?
  235. # [06:57] <jarek> is there something like console.clear() in WebKit Inspector?
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  237. # [06:58] <MooCalifornia> buht: you can create <video> element dynamically in javascript and not add it to document tree at all
  238. # [06:58] <MooCalifornia> that is known working solution for me
  239. # [06:58] <MooCalifornia> don't know if other methods work
  240. # [06:58] <buht> MooCalifornia: ok so because its in the document, its loading
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  243. # [07:03] <buht> MooCalifornia: doing this... no luck?
  244. # [07:03] <buht> videoElement = document.createElement("video"); videoElement.setAttribute("id", "vid");
  245. # [07:04] <MooCalifornia> buht: can you make an example in jsfiddle.net?
  246. # [07:06] <buht> MooCalifornia: http://jsfiddle.net/pWvmZ/
  247. # [07:06] <buht> MooCalifornia: http://jsfiddle.net/pWvmZ/1/
  248. # [07:06] <MooCalifornia> buht: I mean, like useful example
  249. # [07:06] <MooCalifornia> one with videos
  250. # [07:06] <buht> ? it has videos
  251. # [07:06] <bot-t> buht, embed | jQuery Plugins - The Nuvu News Slider is a Touch Enabled XML loaded data, jQuery image/news slider plugin. It is written on the 3 jQuery frameworks (jQuery, jQuery-UI and jQuery-Mobile). This plugin is easily dropp... http://plugins.jquery.com/plugin-tags/embed
  252. # [07:07] <MooCalifornia> videoSrc1.setAttribute("src", "images/webobjects/3o.webm");
  253. # [07:07] <buht> MooCalifornia: you said i should create the video item on the fly in js, only way you knew how to hide it and still use it as a displayed item in the canvas
  254. # [07:07] <MooCalifornia> I don't see how relative file would work on different domain
  255. # [07:08] <buht> MooCalifornia: the code directly below me creating the video element, per your request, is the code i had before that works fine on my system
  256. # [07:08] <buht> MooCalifornia: with the exception that i end up loading a video and a canvas video.
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  258. # [07:08] <MooCalifornia> buht: I mean it would take too much time to figure out to put there video file somewhere just to help you
  259. # [07:08] <MooCalifornia> thanks
  260. # [07:09] <MooCalifornia> going to sleep now
  261. # [07:09] <MooCalifornia> see you
  262. # [07:09] <buht> MooCalifornia: im confused? werent we discussing how to dynamically add a video via javascript?
  263. # [07:10] <buht> MooCalifornia: okay, have a good night, tomorrow let me know if you need something, ill get you curious and then head to bed.
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  269. # [07:21] <buht> .
  270. # [07:22] <buht> anyone know how to hide the <video> but show the <Canvas>.drawimage video instead?
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  361. # [10:17] <Smilex> what is the status of html5? Will it be production ready within a year?
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  368. # [10:24] <MooInteratlantic> Smilex: http://ishtml5readyyet.com/
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  370. # [10:26] <MooInteratlantic> as a side note, that side is made with html5
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  376. # [10:32] <Smilex> thanks
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  379. # [10:36] <OzDave_imac_> looks like an ebay clone of sorts
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  397. # [11:41] <drublic> since noscript is not part of html5, how do you place messages for users w/ js disabled? is aside appropriate or is there something better?
  398. # [11:44] <JakeA> Add a class to the html element like "js", but add it via js
  399. # [11:44] <JakeA> then you can hide parts of the page for js users via CSS
  400. # [11:44] <drublic> JakeA: yes. im using modernizr.
  401. # [11:45] <JakeA> Those bits can contain content for non-js users, which will be hidden and eventually replaced by your scripts
  402. # [11:46] <drublic> JakeA: if i add the message right after the body for instance search engines will think it's the first content if i'm using a <div>
  403. # [11:47] <drublic> do you think i'm getting around this if i use aside?
  404. # [11:47] <JakeA> Is there no way of offering an alternative to no-js users?
  405. # [11:47] <JakeA> Rather than just a "You can't use this" message?
  406. # [11:48] <drublic> nop… it's just that they notice that they will have better experience w/ js
  407. # [11:48] <drublic> they get "everything"
  408. # [11:48] <drublic> except fonts as I'm using typekit and some animations
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  411. # [11:53] <drublic> I think i'll stick to aside… thanks for your help JakeA :)
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  450. # [13:23] <kollapse> This is a strange one. Can anyone tell me here why the element on the right is not on the same line as the one on the left ? http://jsfiddle.net/dVRXb/1/ (in FF it's below, in Opera it's above). What's wrong ?
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  499. # [15:29] <buht> hello, if i have both a <video> and <canvas> element in my DOM, does the browser load both the video visually, and the canvas link to the video a 2nd time once the canvas is drawn with the video? so two videos are shown? if so, how can i hide the video one and only show it in the canvas?
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  505. # [15:38] <diamonds> http://html5demos.com/drag-anything < can people drag files here (can someone try?)
  506. # [15:39] <diamonds> I'm getting "undefined" on chrome and nothing on FF7
  507. # [15:39] <diamonds> does this work for anyone?
  508. # [15:40] <diamonds> neither is it working on imgur.com/?noFlash
  509. # [15:40] <diamonds> perhaps I have an issue with my browser?
  510. # [15:41] <diamonds> hrm....
  511. # [15:41] <diamonds> it works for my neighbor
  512. # [15:41] <diamonds> something is wrong with my browser :(
  513. # [15:41] <diamonds> s
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  516. # [15:47] <blackjid> @diamonds, for me is not working...it returns undefined
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  518. # [15:47] <diamonds> blackjid: and imgur.com/?noFlash ?
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  521. # [15:50] <blackjid> yep...it works.
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  541. # [16:32] <buht> hi, how can i prevent a video element from displaying the video, and still allow the canvas to display the video? i tried display: none; on the video but that also prevents it from being seen on the canvas.
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  567. # [17:10] <JonathanNeal> Hiiiii!
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  570. # [17:12] <aamir-m> buht: can you share your code on jsfiddel, I will look into it...
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  580. # [17:25] <aamir-m> yeah, I am her
  581. # [17:25] <aamir-m> here*
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  607. # [18:08] <necolas> has anyone worked with appcache and asking for explicit user permission before caching?
  608. # [18:09] <JonathanNeal> i didn't know you could do that
  609. # [18:09] <JonathanNeal> i've worked with appcache if you mean manifest
  610. # [18:09] <JonathanNeal> i hated it
  611. # [18:10] <Lebannen> explicit user permission is going to be a tough one - that'll have to control something server-side, as iirc the app cache can't be added to the page via javascript
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  615. # [18:11] <JonathanNeal> Lebannen: if you can control which manifest file it points to, the manifest file could be generated.
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  617. # [18:11] <Lebannen> true, after a page reload
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  622. # [18:15] <JonathanNeal> Lebannen: yea, but that's not that bad, really.
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  625. # [18:19] <necolas> JonathanNeal Lebannen the spec says something about optionally waiting for permission http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/offline.html#application-cache-download-process
  626. # [18:19] <necolas> but i couldnt really see any good way to so that
  627. # [18:19] <necolas> the refresh-with-manifest-file-now-included is one way i suppose
  628. # [18:20] <Lebannen> necolas: ah, I suspect that would be at the browser level - don't think I've ever seen that implemented
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  630. # [18:20] <JonathanNeal> i wonder what would happen if you generated it in an iframe
  631. # [18:20] <JonathanNeal> magical things can be done in iframes
  632. # [18:21] <necolas> unfortunately, someone im contracting for sold all this mythical functionality to a client
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  637. # [18:21] <JonathanNeal> and it's lost?
  638. # [18:22] <necolas> lost?
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  641. # [18:23] <JonathanNeal> oh, you mean, you guys have to deliver on something that is mythical at this point?
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  643. # [18:24] <necolas> JonathanNeal: yeah
  644. # [18:24] <echoSMILE> JonathanNeal: what you mean magical things can be done in iframes?
  645. # [18:25] <necolas> JonathanNeal: but fortunately ive terminated the contract early because they are crazy. however, i want to leave the next dev with some ammunition to protect him/herelf
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  647. # [18:26] <JonathanNeal> echoSMILE: I've done magical things in iframes that are undocumented.
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  650. # [18:26] <JonathanNeal> Like, changed the documentMode in IE
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  654. # [18:28] <echoSMILE> JonathanNeal: Let me ask one thing. Is possible protect the 'father' of iframe from all kind of code from iframe?
  655. # [18:29] <JakeA> window.parent
  656. # [18:29] <JakeA> As long as they're on the same domain
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  658. # [18:30] <echoSMILE> JakeA: but imagine the iframe content are external, can that remote content exploit somehow the parent?
  659. # [18:30] <echoSMILE> or, can be easy protect it?
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  662. # [18:32] <JakeA> If the pages are on the same domain they're assumed to be friends
  663. # [18:33] <echoSMILE> but assume the iframe content are external.
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  698. # [19:16] <chovy> anyone in silicon valley with jQuery, CSS, PHP experience looking for a job?
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  740. # [20:09] <Marin_M> hello
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  742. # [20:10] <Marin_M> is it possible to draw a oval radial gradient with <canvas>?
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  771. # [20:51] <chovy> Marin_M: http://www.html5canvastutorials.com/advanced/html5-canvas-ovals/
  772. # [20:52] <chovy> http://www.html5canvastutorials.com/tutorials/html5-canvas-radial-gradients/
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  776. # [20:55] <Marin_M> chovy: Thanks
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  781. # [20:59] <chovy> np
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  841. # [22:38] <yingwen> hi anyone here from montreal?
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  849. # [22:46] <paul_irish_> yingwen: why you ask
  850. # [22:47] <yingwen> looking for a front end guru in montreal
  851. # [22:51] <paul_irish_> oic.
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  855. # [23:03] <Conexion> So it looks like background gradients and border radius don't play well together? http://jsfiddle.net/UfKPf/
  856. # [23:05] <Conexion> Lame, apparently I have to add an "overflow: hidden;" bit to it
  857. # [23:05] <Conexion> To the parent
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  864. # [23:13] <manuchill> Conexion, when you think about it, it makes sense
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  867. # [23:13] <Conexion> It does
  868. # [23:13] <Conexion> But it doesn't seem very... obvious?
  869. # [23:13] <manuchill> you're putting the borders behind the block level li's
  870. # [23:14] <manuchill> as an alternative you could set the top borders on the first li and the bottom borders on the last li
  871. # [23:15] <manuchill> thus remove the border-radius on the ul and the overflow
  872. # [23:15] <Conexion> I though I had tried that at one point and it wasn't working, but now that I test it again it works just fine
  873. # [23:15] <Conexion> probably forgot a semi-colon or something
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  875. # [23:15] <manuchill> nice
  876. # [23:15] <Conexion> thought*
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  881. # [23:28] <tw2113> http://lifeencounter.org/#
  882. # [23:28] <tw2113> bah
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  884. # [23:31] <OzDave_imac> wordpress is also empowering the wrong organisations ;)
  885. # [23:32] <tw2113> accidental paste
  886. # [23:32] <tw2113> and WP can't control what the users use it for :P
  887. # [23:32] <Conexion> My thoughts exactly :p
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  890. # [23:39] <divya> its moderniz
  891. # [23:39] <divya> er
  892. # [23:39] <divya> modernizr
  893. # [23:39] <divya> Not modernizEr
  894. # [23:39] <tw2113> oops
  895. # [23:39] <tw2113> crap
  896. # [23:39] * tw2113 goes to beat that E
  897. # [23:41] <tw2113> sorry divya
  898. # [23:41] <divya> thnx
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