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  4. # [00:00] <grantg> more popping from the less checks going on
  5. # [00:00] <grantg> most likely
  6. # [00:01] <grantg> firefox seems ok
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  30. # [00:28] <drublic> paul_irish: concerning my pull on h5bp w/ jQuery 1.7: @timmywil was tweeting it 2 hours ago https://twitter.com/#!/timmywil/status/134727597455192064 :))
  31. # [00:28] <socialhapy> ★ Tweet from timmywil: jQuery 1.7 now on the google cdn: http://t.co/VXdbcYDnhttp://bit.ly/uRmWEl
  32. # [00:29] <divya> thnx drublic! :)
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  34. # [00:29] <drublic> divya: no problem ;)
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  45. # [00:42] <buht> how can i center a canvas in a <Td>, i cant find an answer to such a simple question lol
  46. # [00:42] <paul_irish> oic
  47. # [00:42] <bot-t> (7 mins 6 secs ago) <dabear> tell paul_irish you mind letting me into ot again? or at least tell me why I was outed in the first place
  48. # [00:42] <buht> with align set to center it doesnt do it
  49. # [00:45] <drublic> buht: can you make a jsfiddle?
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  53. # [00:58] <daleharvey> man I really with you could offset back around images from the right
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  55. # [00:58] <daleharvey> background: url() no-repeat center -5px; or something
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  59. # [01:03] <Pomax> buht, same way you center everything else.
  60. # [01:03] <Pomax> td { text-align: center; } does the trick just fine
  61. # [01:04] <buht> same for canvas objects?
  62. # [01:04] <buht> with videos?
  63. # [01:04] <Pomax> http://jsfiddle.net/Nm9aP/
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  70. # [01:18] <paul_irish> lol http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/99847
  71. # [01:18] <paul_irish> Web Inspector: do not highlight files larger than 10KLOC. This is a temporary measure while I am improving the highlighter footprint. Otherwise, highlighting pretty printed Gmail takes ~1.3G of RAM.
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  75. # [01:22] <Pomax> wow! =D
  76. # [01:25] <tiglionabbit> how do you kill a video tag? It just keeps on loading, even if I remove it from the page
  77. # [01:28] <Pomax> tried .pause() before removing it?
  78. # [01:29] <tiglionabbit> yep. It just keeps loading though
  79. # [01:31] <Pomax> even with preload set to none?
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  92. # [01:41] <JonathanNeal> hahaha well that was fast
  93. # [01:41] <JonathanNeal> we went over the query limit for google maps
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  96. # [01:49] <Pomax> better start a mirror
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  319. # [11:10] <grantg> ping: humph
  320. # [11:10] <grantg> Found a weird mozAudio glitch, trying to see if it's a firefox 8 regression
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  322. # [11:10] <grantg> Loading 44.1 khz wav files into http://www.grantgalitz.org/wav_player/ always gives a weird moz error
  323. # [11:11] <grantg> while all other options work
  324. # [11:11] <grantg> froim 8 khz to 96 khz
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  326. # [11:11] <grantg> And I'm using moz audio, not <audio>
  327. # [11:11] <grantg> so firefox is doing something weird on 44.1 khz
  328. # [11:12] <Moo_O> I'd say some optimized code path
  329. # [11:12] <grantg> thinking that
  330. # [11:12] <Moo_O> because 44.1 is what soundcards usually eat natively
  331. # [11:12] <grantg> probably a path that skips resampling?
  332. # [11:13] <grantg> Moo_O: yeah
  333. # [11:13] <Moo_O> yeah
  334. # [11:13] <grantg> :/
  335. # [11:13] <grantg> time to file a mozbug?
  336. # [11:13] <Moo_O> I guess
  337. # [11:13] <grantg> k
  338. # [11:13] <Moo_O> moz is hungry and needs to eat your insects
  339. # [11:14] <grantg> I took the sound test page and changed it to let you use the file api on http://www.grantgalitz.org/wav_player/
  340. # [11:14] <grantg> so you can load 8 and 16 bit wav files now. :D
  341. # [11:14] <grantg> And that's how I ran into this bug. D:
  342. # [11:15] <grantg> heh, gc pauses on the high quality files. xD
  343. # [11:16] <grantg> jetienne: You might want that page to threejs-ize, since it's file-api based. :)
  344. # [11:16] <grantg> rather than the other
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  346. # [11:16] <jetienne> grantg: whatta ?
  347. # [11:17] <grantg> remember the visualizer talk earlier?
  348. # [11:17] <grantg> heh, oh nevermind. :|
  349. # [11:17] <jetienne> grantg: yep
  350. # [11:17] <jetienne> grantg: which page are you talking about
  351. # [11:17] <grantg> http://www.grantgalitz.org/wav_player/ has an updated vizualizer and lets you import your own wave files instead
  352. # [11:18] <grantg> supports mono/stereo 8/16 bit files
  353. # [11:18] <grantg> technically it can run odd bit number files too
  354. # [11:18] <jetienne> grantg: put an audio by default. like if i dont have any wav around i cant test the page
  355. # [11:18] <grantg> rewrote a certain part to handle weird files. :P
  356. # [11:19] <jetienne> grantg: ah ok you are telling me that this page contains now a library i can reuse ?
  357. # [11:19] <jetienne> it is early here, brain is slow :)
  358. # [11:19] <grantg> heh
  359. # [11:19] <grantg> wave file decoder- http://www.grantgalitz.org/wav_player/decode.js
  360. # [11:20] <grantg> haven't tested the big endian path, but little endian definitely works (because pretty much every wave file is little endian)
  361. # [11:20] * jetienne is lost ... not enougth coffe
  362. # [11:21] <grantg> lol
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  365. # [11:22] <grantg> heh, maybe I should write a float32 decoder too, for those speciality audiophile wav formats
  366. # [11:22] <grantg> since wav contains subset formats
  367. # [11:23] <grantg> should run 99% of wav files though right now
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  373. # [11:32] <grantg> heh, loaded hamster dance at 80 khz stereo 16 bit, works well. :D
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  439. # [14:21] <robertoss> i was looking into HTML form validation and noticed FF and chrome process one vs all on submit. Any thoughts on the difference?
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  457. # [15:07] <manuchill> divya, nice article @ smashingmag
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  460. # [15:12] <divya> manuchill: ha
  461. # [15:12] <divya> :)
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  464. # [15:15] <divya> manuchill: were you one of the commentators?
  465. # [15:15] <divya> :P
  466. # [15:21] <manuchill> divya, no I wasn't, just read it and liking it
  467. # [15:21] <divya> o cool :)
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  556. # [17:47] <_hem> hello i want to use html5 to create a gradient which i want to use on another canvas element. my aim is to get a linear gradient starting from a color value e.g #ff0000 with full opacity and ending to full transparency. with each gradient stop i want to decrease the opacity: https://gist.github.com/371b8feb9442e4024b57 does anyone know why i don not get the result i am looking for? i believe there is a problem with the last hexvalu
  557. # [17:47] <_hem> es of the gradient stops which never can be a float value between 0 and 1
  558. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> Because the alpha argument to rgba isn't an integer in [0,0xFF] but a float
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  568. # [17:58] <_hem> MS2ger: is it possible to define a float value between 0 and 1 by using hexcode. if so I could ransform this value to decimal value
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  572. # [17:58] <Ms2ger> ((stops[i] >> 0) & 0xFF) / 0xFF probably works
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  587. # [18:05] <themiddleman_itv> Aargh, webkit doesn't trantition pixel values into percent values http://jsfiddle.net/KuESX/ try it in FF and cr/sf
  588. # [18:06] <themiddleman_itv> /rant
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  620. # [18:42] <mrmccrac> say i had a canvas and drew 5 circles on it, and I'm implementing a drag and drop for one of the circles.. is the best thing to do simply to redraw the entire canvas in order to simulate one of the circles moving?
  621. # [18:44] <themiddleman_itv> mrmccrac: yeah unless you're looking for extreme performance
  622. # [18:44] <mrmccrac> themiddleman_itv: basically i have no idea how i would perform a transformation on only one of the circles :)
  623. # [18:45] <Moo_O> mrmccrac: redraw only changed canvas parts using a clipping
  624. # [18:45] <mrmccrac> Moo_O: what if the circles overlapped each other.. is it possible to have them not part of the same clipping?
  625. # [18:46] <mrmccrac> of course if i don't need extreme performance, all this is a moot point and i should just redraw all objects?
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  628. # [18:50] <wbednarski> Hi! How to add favicon to bookmarklet?
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  630. # [18:52] <Moo_O> mrmccrac: just redraw everything
  631. # [18:52] <Moo_O> optimize if needed
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  634. # [19:01] <_hem> Ms2ger: thanks it works
  635. # [19:01] <Ms2ger> Np
  636. # [19:08] <Conexion> I answered you on ##javascript wbednarski
  637. # [19:09] <Conexion> Short answer - You can't // Long Answer - It's browser specific - Usually bookmarklets don't have a domain attached to them in order to get a favicon
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  647. # [19:25] <wbednarski> Conexion thanks!
  648. # [19:27] <Conexion> wbednarski: No problem :)
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  656. # [19:36] <Moo_O> does anyone know any other beat detection libraries besides beatdetektor.js?
  657. # [19:37] <Moo_O> preferably something working on webkit too...
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  670. # [20:01] <Conexion> Out of curiosity, what would you be using it for?
  671. # [20:01] <Conexion> I don't know of any
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  706. # [21:04] <Moo_O> Conexion: detect beats in music?
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  710. # [21:05] <Conexion> I mean more, what sort of application would it be? Something like that just sounds like it'd be better to get that info server-side
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  716. # [21:11] <Moo_O> Conexion: music visulaization
  717. # [21:11] <Moo_O> we are doing it on the server side currently but it would provide much better user interface (no uploads) doing it in the browser
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  734. # [21:22] <hyperandroid> morning
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  744. # [21:53] <hyperandroid> hey anyone could help me ? is it possible to have those @-keyframes running at the same time, so that the path and the scale operations perform at the same time ? http://jsfiddle.net/RKQqc/2/
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  752. # [22:07] <hackeron> hey, can anyone recommend a good html5 player? - I tried mediaelement but it seems the flash fallback is broken if you use a poster with preload - any better alternatives?
  753. # [22:10] <Moo_O> hackeron: no
  754. # [22:10] <Moo_O> I suggest you fix medialelement
  755. # [22:10] <Moo_O> should not be a big deal
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  757. # [22:12] <hackeron> Moo_O: the issue is reported repeatedly over the past year - it is a bug in the swf file, I don't know flash to fix it
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  801. # [23:33] <superevr> what do developers and designers want to hear regarding HTML5 security?
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  805. # [23:39] <superevr> I'm working on my presentation for Devcon5 developers conference, and I'm curious what areas HTML5 devs would like to focus on
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  807. # [23:40] <dpogue> What developers really want to hear about security is that someone else has already taken care of it :P
  808. # [23:41] <superevr> oh... well then they will be sorely dissappointed
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