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# Session Start: Tue Dec 20 00:00:00 2011
# Session Ident: #html5
# [00:01] <martndemus> divya: https://github.com/h5bp/html5please/issues/7#issuecomment-3211021 -- dunno if it helps, but my 2 cents
# [00:01] <socialhapy> ★ Issue #7 on html5please, reported by paulirish (3w, 6d ago): More data!
# [00:02] <divya> martndemus: i think it would be better as a gist linked from here.
# [00:02] <divya> i can edit it into that if you dont mind.
# [00:02] <martndemus> sure
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# [00:04] <martndemus> divya: updated
# [00:04] <divya> k thanks martndemus
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# [00:55] <jarek> how do I get element width and height after it has been scaled with CSS3 transforms?
# [00:56] <jarek> I have to multiply the value returned by getComputedStyle() by scale ratio? Is there a better way?
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# [01:04] <ChrisPartridge> jarek: afaik, no
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# [01:08] <jarek> setting scale(0.5) should reduce element height by half, right?
# [01:09] <ChrisPartridge> Yup
# [01:09] <jarek> then it's not working for me :P
# [01:09] <ChrisPartridge> jsfiddle your code
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# [02:43] <tw2113> which sounds more fun for IE7 debugging? increase the width by 2px to get something in place? or add a transparent 1px border around it instead?
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# [03:41] <nodecoder123> how much money do u guys make in ur jobs
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# [03:44] <tw2113> sup jeffszusz
# [03:44] <tw2113> $30/hr at the moment freelance nodecoder123
# [03:45] <nodecoder123> how old
# [03:45] <nodecoder123> err how experienced
# [03:45] <tw2113> graduated college in 07
# [03:45] <nodecoder123> son of a bitch!!!!
# [03:45] <tw2113> but wasn't able to get my foot in the door till 2010
# [03:45] <nodecoder123> how long have u been coding
# [03:45] <tw2113> and most of my time was idle/freelance on the side up to that
# [03:45] <nodecoder123> or just web design
# [03:46] <tw2113> well to be fair, i remember making websites with angelfire
# [03:46] <jeffszusz> hello
# [03:46] <jeffszusz> lol angelfire brings back memories here
# [03:47] <nodecoder123> i make 71k
# [03:48] <nodecoder123> my company makes like millions off my sites
# [03:48] <nodecoder123> and my ability to set systems up and stuff
# [03:48] <nodecoder123> is beyond a web developer
# [03:48] <nodecoder123> and yet they yell at me
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# [04:04] <tyoc213> Hi there, how I switch a CSS?
# [04:05] <tyoc213> the 2 CSS have same classes, but different names for the URL
# [04:05] <tyoc213> or I need to do a replace method for each CSS class?
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# [04:12] <nodecoder123> what
# [04:12] <nodecoder123> i dont understand
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# [04:18] <zeppo> like you want to decide which stylesheet to load?
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# [04:21] <Moonies> http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/12/mit-launching-certificate-program-based-on-opencourseware-open-source-platform.ars
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# [04:26] <TheEmpath> so CSS3 is... confusing?
# [04:26] <TheEmpath> I'm seeing ampersands next to selectors and no one seems to know what they are caleld or what they do
# [04:26] <TheEmpath> .elements { &.empty { color: #333 } }
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# [04:38] <tw2113> TheEmpath http://joeloliveira.com/2011/06/28/the-ampersand-a-killer-sass-feature/
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# [04:52] <TheEmpath> tw2113: thanks, explains everything!
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# [06:11] <Dr4g> that ampersand looks horrible
# [06:11] <Dr4g> mroe sntactic sugar
# [06:11] <Dr4g> syntactic *
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# [06:42] <dr0id> paul_irish: hi
# [06:42] <tw2113> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712218 lol
# [06:43] <dr0id> there?
# [06:43] <dr0id> tw2113: you work for Moz ?
# [06:43] <tw2113> nope
# [06:43] <tw2113> i just found that funny
# [06:43] <dr0id> hehk
# [06:43] <dr0id> http://css3please.com/
# [06:44] <dr0id> shouldn't that be linear-gradient(to bottom...) ?
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# [10:07] <txm> Morning, where can I get a list of the new tags (forgive my terminology) such as header, article, footer, etc., thanks.
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# [10:17] <dr0id> yw
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# [10:28] <xec> txm: you could try html5doctor.com
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# [11:31] <Pomax> hm. 426 should be used so much more often.
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# [12:31] <txm> Hello, yesterday, some kind soul, possible `peter` or `paul` gave me a tip for a full screen background image for a mobile device .. only my irc client has disconnected since and I can't scroll back far enough to view.
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# [12:43] <antonjb> txm: did it have anything to do with background-size: contain?
# [12:44] <antonjb> I mean, cover
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# [12:44] <txm> member:antonjb it was a link - although I am looking at background-size now (which breaks my site ;)
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# [12:45] <txm> I suspect the link did point to background-size
# [12:45] <antonjb> if you're going mobile specific support for that should be good. According to caniuse
# [12:46] <txm> I'm probably using it the wrong way
# [12:46] <antonjb> ie support, not so great
# [12:46] <txm> that's fine, just a simple mobile landing page - mobiles are the IE killer ;)
# [12:47] <antonjb> :)
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# [12:56] <antonjb> yeah I just tried it with cover. Works how I think you want
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# [13:02] <txm> sorry antonjb I was distracted by viewport and naively confused over what was changing font sizes :) cover, nice, thank you
# [13:03] <txm> cover, amazing, I was wasting my life with auto
# [13:03] <antonjb> txm: hope it works :)
# [13:04] <antonjb> I found I had to set the width/height of html to 100% to fully get it working (in Chrome)
# [13:04] <antonjb> it did a weird repeat otherwise
# [13:05] <txm> lol, chrome, that's a long way off, I'm sitting with my mac (chrome/ff) and testing on an iphone3, Galaxy mini and Galaxy tab 7" and the boss will test on his iphone4 with 2x - this is going to be a nightmare :)
# [13:06] <txm> for skinning a single desktop page I'd estimate 1/2 day if based on an existing site - but the boss wouldn't believe me when I wanted 2 days for the first (of many) mobile pages
# [13:06] <antonjb> looking at caniuse you're in good shape. There's a bunch of JS workarounds too
# [13:08] <txm> It's more going to be a noobness - I sort of left the html world with hml4 and never properly learned css - all good fun though
# [13:08] <txm> and can finally justify to the wife why I have so many gadgets
# [13:09] <txm> so far, I've managed to avoid JS
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# [13:21] <txm> dammit I may now have to use JS :) The image stretches, and then when rotate to hoz and rotate back to vert it displays differently, iphone3s
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# [13:21] <Pomax> CSS orientation min/max-width and mi/max-height settings?
# [13:22] <Pomax> something like http://www.cloudfour.com/ipad-orientation-css/
# [13:22] <txm> Pomax, nice :)
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# [13:23] <logesh_paul> Hello txm this is logesh_paul who entered as `Paul` yesterday. just now i reached my desk. Btw here is the site to check irc logs - http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html5/20111219. Like Pomax said play with media-quires.
# [13:26] <txm> thanks logesh_paul
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# [13:56] <dr0id> what charting system these guys uysin
# [13:56] <dr0id> http://www.googlezeitgeist.com/en/top-lists/in/fastest-rising-people
# [13:56] <dr0id> ?
# [13:56] <dr0id> http://www.googlezeitgeist.com/en/top-searches/steve_jobs
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# [14:01] <dr0id> paul_irish_: any idea ? :P
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# [15:11] <jetienne_> divya: paul_irish_: im trying to do a boilerplate for three.js, there some core principles to follow to design a boilerplate ? like "it must run everywhere", "it must be simple", "should not push a given way to dev"... this kind of thing ?
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# [15:12] <jetienne_> a kind of checklist to see if the boilerplate is ok
# [15:13] <divya> jetienne_: naw dont think so.
# [15:13] <divya> as long as you think its a good starter base.
# [15:13] <jetienne_> divya: ok i will think then :)
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# [15:15] <txm> Would anyone be so kind to provide a critique of my mobile site/page please? Oh, and I'm not keen on publishing it publicly yet, so I'd have to send the link privately. Thanks.
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# [15:59] <Kilianv> hello everyone, is there currently a way to abort/prevent an update of the applicationCache (on ipad)?
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# [16:25] <aleray> I want for instance to seek video 2 using video 1 controller
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# [16:44] <martndemus> Question: Imagine you are on a site like twitter, where when you scroll down, the page loads new shit, but at one time it will stop giving you shit, what kind of message would you put down there? I've put down "No more articles to load", but it sounds totally crap
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# [16:50] <tuxtoti> There seems to be a dozen projects out there for html5 charts. Any recommendations?
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# [17:00] <dr0id> HighCharts
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# [17:00] <dr0id> but I want to know what they used here, http://www.googlezeitgeist.com/en/top-searches/steve_jobs
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# [17:05] <martndemus> dr0id: propably something a guy at google cooked up byhimself (or a whole team)
# [17:05] <dr0id> yeah , that's what I am speculating too
# [17:06] <tuxtoti> dr0id: Thanks. Looks really good. Stands out among others.
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# [17:07] <tuxtoti> dr0id: But I really don't understand how they can enforce a license on a project that involves JS, where the source is available out there.
# [17:07] <martndemus> what kind of license/
# [17:07] <tuxtoti> http://shop.highsoft.com/highcharts.html
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# [17:17] <muszek> hi... is it possible to keep arrays of data in html5's data-*?
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# [17:18] <martndemus> sure
# [17:19] <muszek> how do I format it?
# [17:19] <martndemus> data-array="[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,etc]"
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# [17:20] <muszek> cool, how about something like an associative array? so that it has key name and value. css: true, background: 'red'
# [17:21] <martndemus> you can do 2 things
# [17:21] <martndemus> make it json
# [17:22] <martndemus> so "{css : true, background: 'red'}" (dont forget to pass the object through JSON.stringify!)
# [17:22] <martndemus> or
# [17:22] <martndemus> [[css,true],[background,'red']]
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# [17:23] <muszek> thank you very much :)
# [17:26] <martndemus> np ")
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# [17:57] <JonathanNeal> hi
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# [18:04] <jarek> which event fires when iframe's DOM is ready?
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# [18:04] <jarek> iframe.addEventListener('load', callback) fires after all images has been fetched
# [18:04] <jarek> I need something like DOMContentLoaded event
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# [18:05] <Pomax> there should be a DOMContentLoaded...
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# [18:06] <jarek> Pomax: yes, but in order to access iframe's DOMContentLoaded I have to know when it's loaded :)
# [18:07] <Pomax> you're breaking all sorts of best practices here =P
# [18:07] <jarek> iframe.contentDocument.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', callback) won't fire if it's assigned before the iframe content has loaded
# [18:08] <Pomax> what about iframe.document?
# [18:08] <jarek> Pomax: that's because I'm developing extraordinary app
# [18:08] <Pomax> dundunduuun
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# [18:09] <jarek> iframe.document is undefined
# [18:10] <Pomax> what if you use a reverse signal
# [18:10] <jarek> Pomax: there could be any website loaded into iframe
# [18:10] <Pomax> iframe: ("DOMContentLoaded", notifyParent, false); and function notifyParent( parent.done());
# [18:11] <Pomax> sure but you control the iframe, so you control the content and can just inject a script element
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# [18:11] <jarek> Pomax: but I can inject script element only after iframe has loaded
# [18:11] <jarek> damn, looks like I will have to use setInterval :/
# [18:12] <Pomax> avoid setInterval, use setTimeout instead.
# [18:12] <Pomax> setTimeout(f, ...), f = function f() { if(condition met) {...} else { setTimeout(f,...)}}
# [18:13] <jarek> Pomax: setInterval would be slower? why?
# [18:13] <Pomax> not slower, less correct.
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# [18:13] <Pomax> setInterval is for functions that must run indefinitely
# [18:13] <Pomax> your function ideally only runs once, or at most a few times.
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# [18:14] <Pomax> so you want to use setTimeout and make the function responsible for deciding "I have my result - am I done, or do I need to retry?"
# [18:14] <jarek> hmm... let me check this...
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# [18:15] <Pomax> setInterval must be cancelled, and something can intervene in that
# [18:15] <Pomax> setTimeout doesn't need cancelling
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# [18:23] <jarek__> I don't really see the difference:
# [18:23] <jarek__> http://jsfiddle.net/cQZj2/
# [18:23] <jarek__> http://jsfiddle.net/sb5RC/
# [18:24] <Pomax> the difference is correctness
# [18:24] <Pomax> not result.
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# [18:24] <Pomax> like drawing a circle using a circle function vs based on an array of pixels that should be colored.
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# [18:24] <Pomax> result's exactly the same, "UNLESS..." and then you get the real difference
# [18:25] <Pomax> if there's a problem with your timeout function, setTimeout will only try to call it once, fail, and the that's
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# [18:25] <Pomax> *and that's that.
# [18:25] <Pomax> it also encodes the concept of "retry if failed" rather than "keep running, irrespective of any state"
# [18:27] <jarek__> I see, but the same could be said e.g. about while() loop
# [18:27] <Pomax> exactly. except the distinction between those doesn't exist in javascript
# [18:27] <Pomax> in normal languages, the difference is variable scope.
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# [18:27] <Pomax> which, for JavaScript, doesn't exist because all variables are scoped to the function
# [18:29] <Pomax> still, if something needs to run allwhen, alltime, setInterval is the key.
# [18:29] <Pomax> if it needs to only run a few times, setTimeout is the ticket.
# [18:30] <aleray> hi, ho wcould I synchronize to video elements ?
# [18:30] <aleray> I want for instance to seek video 2 using video 1 controller
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# [18:32] <Pomax> hmm, I'm definitely not the best person to ask that... you could probably use something like popcorn.js, but I imagine there might be smaller, more specialised tools that let you do that, too
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# [18:36] <jarek__> aleray: from my read of the video tag API on MDN, this could be easily scripted
# [18:36] <aleray> jarek__, i'm getting into feedback loops
# [18:37] <aleray> if I bind the seeked event of a video to update the currentTime of the other videos I get the loop
# [18:37] <aleray> jarek__, how would you do it ?
# [18:38] <jarek__> aleray: assuming that you are using custom events:
# [18:38] <aleray> I saw there was a media controller thing in the html5 video specification draft which read interesting but it doesn't seem to be implemented anywhere
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# [18:38] <jarek__> aleray: when you change current position in video1 do: trigger('video1->seeked', position)
# [18:39] <jarek__> aleray: when you change current position in video2 do: trigger('video2->seeked', position)
# [18:39] <jarek__> then:
# [18:40] <jarek__> in video1: bind('video2->seeked', function(position) { this.position = position; }
# [18:40] <jarek__> that's all, just make sure that you are triggering event only when position is changed via user event
# [18:41] <aleray> jarek__, thanks a lot; i'm not sure to understand your pseudo code... would you mind writing it in js?
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# [18:41] <aleray> (I don't get the 'video2->seeked' part)
# [18:41] <jarek__> aleray: I'm actually overcomplicating things
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# [18:44] <aleray> jarek__, yes?
# [18:44] <jarek__> aleray: give me few more seconds...
# [18:44] <aleray> :)
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# [18:49] <jarek__> aleray: http://jsfiddle.net/Zdn6f/
# [18:49] <jarek__> aleray: you just have to use custom controls
# [18:50] <jarek__> aleray: and watch them for changes
# [18:52] <aleray> jarek__, thanks, I look at it!
# [18:53] <jarek__> ahh, you will also have to update the state of the controls: http://jsfiddle.net/Zdn6f/1/
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# [18:57] <aleray> jarek__, where does video2control comes from?
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# [19:01] <aleray> jarek__, so I need to use custom controlers?
# [19:01] <jarek__> aleray: it could be e.g. "range" input element
# [19:01] <jarek__> aleray: http://lab.simurai.com/css/umbrui/
# [19:01] <jarek__> aleray: but not that the event name for range input would not be "mousemove"
# [19:02] <jarek__> s/not/note
# [19:02] <aleray> jarek__, I can not use default media controler?
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# [19:05] <jarek__> aleray: I'm not sure, you would have to find a way to detect whether the state of default media controller was changed by user or by script
# [19:05] <aleray> jarek__, yes
# [19:06] <aleray> that's my problem actually
# [19:06] <jarek__> aleray: anyway, the default controllers are plain ugly
# [19:06] <aleray> jarek__, agree
# [19:06] <jarek__> aleray: so it wouldn't hurt if you have created your own one
# [19:06] <martndemus> Problem: my android wont parse JSON ::(
# [19:06] <aleray> I was planning to use custom controllers in the end but thought i coulp postpone this part of the job
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# [19:09] <martndemus> ah response is undefined
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# [19:12] <martndemus> fixed :) yay
# [19:12] <martndemus> but goddamn
# [19:12] <aleray> jarek__, thanks for the advices
# [19:12] <martndemus> andriod 2.3 invalidates about 50% of my beautiful code :(
# [19:13] <aleray> I look into it
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# [19:46] <martndemus> Opera Y U NO EXECUTE TRANSITION CORRECT
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# [19:48] <BrianBlakely> This is probably a time appropriate subject to post here
# [19:48] <BrianBlakely> North Korea's official website: http://www.korea-dpr.com/
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# [19:50] <BrianBlakely> Before you click — it's made exactly the way you would expect a website in North Korea to be made
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# [20:02] <Pomax> is that still the same one
# [20:02] <frank_salim> goooood morning
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# [20:05] <martndemus> Pfew, goog and mozilla settled on another few years of partnership
# [20:05] <martndemus> crisis averted
# [20:06] <Pomax> what crisis? O_o
# [20:06] <Pomax> even if they didn't, it's not like Mozilla has no money at all.
# [20:06] <martndemus> the so called rumors that google tried to kill mozilla
# [20:07] <Pomax> is that by the same people who said microsoft would buy yahoo?
# [20:07] <Pomax> some things can't happen.
# [20:07] <martndemus> propably =D
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# [21:10] <rhelic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoPHKE6uJ5E
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# [21:19] <martndemus> Created Account on MDN, let's do some dutch articles from time to time :)
# [21:25] <Pomax> kom nou, hoeveel mensen lezen er nou Nederlands online.
# [21:26] <martndemus> tja, de engelse docs zijn al vrij compleet :P
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# [21:30] <Pomax> there you go, just keep improving that lingua franca
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# [21:35] <martndemus> Right when I feel in the mood of helping people, MDN dies :((((((((((9
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# [21:54] <skylamer`> гс
# [21:54] <skylamer`> hi any one want to help ? :)
# [21:58] <rhelic> probably not
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# [22:02] <skylamer`> k
# [22:03] <martndemus> skylamer`: sup?
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# [22:05] <martndemus> @ rhelic: although this channel isnt very active, don't tell people they probably won't find any help in here, kthnxbai
# [22:05] <rhelic> kthanxdie
# [22:06] <rhelic> skylamer`: just ask, sarcasm is the core of IRC
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# [22:10] <skylamer`> :)
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# [22:11] <skylamer`> im just making some simple image uploading and manipulation, so i want to ask how to make it so only one image per selection to be active, and when the user upload second the previous to dissappear
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# [22:11] <skylamer`> i mean im using some JS, no server-side
# [22:11] <skylamer`> and the type=file on the input
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# [22:12] <skylamer`> now when i select more than one image lets say, and then there're more than one, and i want to make only one at a time, to be showed and manipulate them with pixastic:)
# [22:13] <martndemus> got your code online somewhere? so we can take a peek
# [22:14] <skylamer`> wait a bit:)
# [22:15] <skylamer`> http://jsfiddle.net/aMwLB/
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# [22:16] <martndemus> okay
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# [22:17] <martndemus> so if i understand correctly, then when a user adds a second image, you want the first on to disappear?
# [22:17] <skylamer`> only one at atime, yea
# [22:17] <skylamer`> :)
# [22:17] <martndemus> cool
# [22:17] <martndemus> let me have a look
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# [22:18] <skylamer`> thren may be i will add some controlz, so to can manipulate the image with filters, resizing and otherz :)
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# [22:28] <martndemus> hmm
# [22:28] <martndemus> it now removes both images =DD
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# [22:32] <skylamer`> so no luck :)
# [22:32] <martndemus> still trying :P
# [22:34] <Jayflux> does Stuart Langridge ring a bell to anyone here?
# [22:35] <martndemus> skylamer`: http://jsfiddle.net/r8svA/4/ :)
# [22:35] <martndemus> works
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# [22:38] <skylamer`> lookin
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# [23:08] <shepazu> i am sad. I am only ASI King :(
# [23:08] <shepazu> divya: I blame you
# [23:08] <divya> watttt
# [23:08] <divya> ohh
# [23:08] <divya> hahaha
# [23:08] <divya> I am only an Eagle
# [23:08] <divya> FYI
# [23:09] <shepazu> what are the ranks?
# [23:09] <martndemus> is three.js/webgl 3d etc hard to do?
# [23:09] <shepazu> I've heard of Eagle, King, and Ninja
# [23:10] <martndemus> e.g. i want to make my name in 3d and let it move to the mouse
# [23:10] <shepazu> martndemus: depends on your experience in 3D stuff
# [23:10] <martndemus> 0
# [23:10] <shepazu> lol
# [23:10] <martndemus> experience
# [23:10] <martndemus> =D
# [23:10] <shepazu> it is IMPOSSIBLE!
# [23:10] <shepazu> jk
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# [23:10] <martndemus> nah, i learn faster then webgl is fast
# [23:10] <divya> who knows
# [23:11] <shepazu> I suspect very strongly that you could find a demo of a string that moves around with the mouse, and sub your name for the string
# [23:11] <martndemus> shepazu: whats the fun in that :P
# [23:12] <shepazu> martndemus: the fun is in an easy victory that whets your appetite for more complex experiments :)
# [23:12] <shepazu> http://learningwebgl.com/blog/?page_id=1217
# [23:13] <martndemus> i already copied the 3.js demo into jsfiddle and changed the color of the cube to #bada55, im way past that stage =D
# [23:13] <shepazu> well, then you're better than me :)
# [23:14] <martndemus> =DDD
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# [23:15] <martndemus> lets see if i can make that cube dance to my mouse
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# [23:18] <tw2113> painful....opening a 100kb+ minified css file
# [23:19] <martndemus> Is it the 3000+ lines PURE CSS3 iphoney?
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# [23:19] <tw2113> gedit doesn't like that much text on one line
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# [23:19] <martndemus> gedit++
# [23:20] <ryanseddon> use sublime that should can handle amazing amounts of code
# [23:21] <tw2113> does it have linux support?
# [23:21] <ryanseddon> yep
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# [23:22] <tw2113> i vaguely remember this one
# [23:22] <tw2113> awhile back
# [23:22] <ryanseddon> http://www.sublimetext.com/dev awesome sauce
# [23:23] <shepazu> I love when I can use a silly example I created 5 years ago to help someone with a problem today http://schepers.cc/w3c/inkSVG/InkML2SVG.svg
# [23:24] <tw2113> gah, even local css file at that size on 1 line makes gedit cry
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# [23:28] <ryanseddon> shepazu: I wish i could say the same, the stuff i did 5 years ago makes me laugh and cry at the same time
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# [23:29] <shepazu> ryanseddon: oh, I didn't say my stuff wasn't crap… :)
# [23:29] <shepazu> but sadly, probably better than I could do today, since I barely get any time to code these days
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# [23:32] <martndemus> shepazu: cube dance dance dance! http://jsfiddle.net/s9sdz/2/
# [23:32] <shepazu> cool
# [23:32] <tw2113> ryanseddon i'll give it a go with sublime. I know I will want some sort of editor for my laptop here, once I start using some co-working space more regularly
# [23:32] <tw2113> most of my dev work at home is done on my laptop
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