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  41. # [01:36] <shadowcry> hi mates, just wanteed to raise awareness that you can use the accelerarometer in ipods with javascript to create tilt based games
  42. # [01:36] <shadowcry> x = event.accelerationIncludingGravity.x;
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  64. # [03:19] <jarek> Hello
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  66. # [03:20] <jarek> what are the benefits of "element.addEventListener('webkitTransitionEnd', callback)" over "setTimeout(callback, animationLength)"?
  67. # [03:21] <jarek> if I want to run certain code after animation has finished, which way is better?
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  69. # [03:21] <jarek> webkitTransitionEnd seems to be more accurate, but it's buggy
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  195. # [06:54] <coolforyou> hi guys
  196. # [06:54] <coolforyou> i am new to html
  197. # [06:54] <tw2113> welcome
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  199. # [06:54] <coolforyou> thank you tw2113
  200. # [06:55] <coolforyou> can any one please tell me the best book for this noob to learn html ? sorry for my bad english
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  202. # [06:56] <coolforyou> i am noob in html , so please suggest some good book for learning html , just html , because i know without knowing html i can't learn html5
  203. # [06:58] <shwetank> just learn from the net
  204. # [06:58] <shwetank> also take a look at http://www.w3.org/community/webed/wiki/Main_Page
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  207. # [07:00] <coolforyou> :)
  208. # [07:01] <coolforyou> sorry guys please help this noob
  209. # [07:02] <tantek> hey coolforyou - html5 includes simple HTML
  210. # [07:02] <tantek> in fact, HTML5 makes several things *easier* than in previous versions of HTML.
  211. # [07:03] <coolforyou> thanks for your reply tantek . is it possible for me to learn html5 directly without knowing html ?
  212. # [07:03] <tw2113> i think learning html5 would equate to learning html
  213. # [07:04] <tantek> coolforyou - best way to get started with HTML is to learn simple HTML5
  214. # [07:04] <coolforyou> @tantek . i am noob in html , so please suggest some good book for learning html , just html , because i know without knowing html i can't learn html5
  215. # [07:04] <tantek> of course I'm a bit biased, that's how I wrote my book/video on HTML5
  216. # [07:04] <tw2113> html5 = html4+new stuff
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  218. # [07:04] <tw2113> MOST of html4 carried over
  219. # [07:04] <shwetank> coolforyou check out the link i sent earlier
  220. # [07:04] <tantek> tw2113 with a bunch of key beginner thing simplified
  221. # [07:05] <tantek> some baggage from HTML4 has been dropped
  222. # [07:05] <tw2113> yes
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  224. # [07:05] <tw2113> coolforyou http://htmldog.com/
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  227. # [07:06] <tantek> coolforyou, try this free resource: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML
  228. # [07:07] <coolforyou> thank you tantek , i ill check this link now
  229. # [07:07] <coolforyou> i tried leaning form w3s , but i am not satistied , so i wanted some book which teaches me html in proper way :)
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  231. # [07:08] <tw2113> i'll second the mozilla link
  232. # [07:09] <coolforyou> @tw2113 , what link ?
  233. # [07:10] <tw2113> [11:59pm] <tantek> coolforyou, try this free resource: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML
  234. # [07:11] <coolforyou> yes tw2113 , i am reading that link .
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  236. # [07:11] <tw2113> and i approve of the link
  237. # [07:12] <coolforyou> @tw2113 , sorry i am bad in english bro , i could not get you
  238. # [07:13] <tw2113> keep reading it
  239. # [07:13] <tw2113> use it
  240. # [07:13] <tw2113> learn from it
  241. # [07:13] <tw2113> +1
  242. # [07:13] <coolforyou> actually tw2113 , if you suggest some good book s for learning html then it will be a great help for me :)
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  245. # [07:15] <tw2113> books get dated too fast, the internet is a better resource that is easy to update
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  247. # [07:15] <tw2113> http://diveintohtml5.info/
  248. # [07:15] <tw2113> http://htmldog.com/
  249. # [07:15] <coolforyou> yes yes tw2113 , you are right . thanks for this link too :)
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  251. # [07:16] <tw2113> http://reference.sitepoint.com/html
  252. # [07:17] <coolforyou> actually tw2113 , i am a java developer , i just wanted to start developing we application for that i need to know about html for jsp , so can i directly learn html5 ?
  253. # [07:18] <coolforyou> thanks a million tw2113 , you are so good
  254. # [07:18] <tw2113> like tantek and i said earlier....html5 = html4 + new things + simplifying
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  256. # [07:19] <coolforyou> yes yes tw2113
  257. # [07:19] <tw2113> i think you'll be fine with what links you have so far
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  260. # [07:22] <coolforyou> but since i am noob , i could not able to clearly justify the learning process , i mean i don't know from where to start learning about this web , so i just thought i can start learning from html . But is it good idea for me to directly learn html5 ?
  261. # [07:23] <shwetank> coolforyou yes, just start learning html5 stuff
  262. # [07:23] <tw2113> you have been given a good solid starting ground :P
  263. # [07:23] <tw2113> it will get you at least 75% up to speed, if not more
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  266. # [07:27] <coolforyou> ohhh wooow , this is what i want tw2113 , thanks again for your good suggestion :)
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  300. # [09:05] <rfw> hi, is Int32Array fixed-length?
  301. # [09:05] <rfw> rather, the Int32/Int16/Float32Array family
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  303. # [09:06] <rfw> and, on a related note, is it shrinkable?
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  377. # [11:36] <T-Co> Hey, does someone care to point me to a right direction with image preloading with deferreds? I want to preload and show images after doc ready and then when all images are done have a callback...
  378. # [11:38] <T-Co> I was drafting something like this: http://pastebin.com/d2zXa2sj
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  380. # [11:38] <T-Co> But apparently I'm doing it wrong :)
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  386. # [11:43] <T-Co> Any ideas?
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  453. # [14:06] <chachan> guys, why could I get "canceled" when I try to use audio tag?. The "canceled" appears after download the file
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  473. # [14:33] <CapnKernel> Hello. I am playing with the HTML5 Canvas thingy. I want the user to be able to draw rectangles over an arbitrary image. That all works fine. Some of the images may be dark, and some may be light. Is there a way to make lines be patterned? (I looked at CanvasPattern, but it looks more for making patterns across areas, rather than lines)
  474. # [14:34] <CapnKernel> (A rectangle of "01010101010" etc will show up on any coloured background image)
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  479. # [14:43] <OzDave_imac> Do you mean like the "marching ants" as its sometimes called in the marquee tool in shloppieflop (photoshop)?
  480. # [14:48] <CapnKernel> Perhaps, but not essential.
  481. # [14:48] <CapnKernel> If I could set the pattern of the line, then marching ants would be easy, as the canvas uses live patterns: Update the passed pattern, and canvas automatically rerenders.
  482. # [14:49] <CapnKernel> The best I can think of doing is to use a 2x2 "[[1 0] [0 1]]" type pattern and hope browsers render a line width of 1 pixel ok.
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  486. # [14:52] <CapnKernel> From WHATWG's Canvas doc: "When set to a CanvasPattern or CanvasGradient object, the assignment is live, meaning that changes made to the object after the assignment do affect subsequent stroking or filling of shapes."
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  490. # [14:54] <CapnKernel> The WHATWG doc says that context.strokeStyle can be a CanvasPattern object, created with createPattern
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  499. # [15:30] <webguynow> anybody looking at html5 canvas and clickable areas on the canvas ?
  500. # [15:30] <webguynow> I'm looking at some html5 canvas stuff and searched on keywords: html5 canvas mouseover Kinetic
  501. # [15:30] <webguynow> http://www.html5canvastutorials.com/kineticjs/html5-canvas-path-mouseover/
  502. # [15:30] <webguynow> http://www.kineticjs.com/
  503. # [15:31] <webguynow> When I look at kineticjs I'd like to have a better grasp of the inheritance and what the constructor does. discuss here, or in PM
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  505. # [15:38] <CapnKernel> webguynow: You asked one question, and I can answer it: "yes".
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