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  1. # Session Start: Thu Dec 29 00:00:00 2011
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  32. # [01:02] <ale> Hello, I want to draw a circle with mousevents, dynamically..is this possible?
  33. # [01:02] <ale> Like a paint online, with canvas, but just a circle
  34. # [01:02] <ale> with mouse events
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  43. # [01:11] <CapnKernel> ale: hi there
  44. # [01:11] <ale> hey!
  45. # [01:12] <CapnKernel> I needed to do something similar recently
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  47. # [01:12] <CapnKernel> I found this article: http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/html5-canvas-painting/
  48. # [01:13] <CapnKernel> That article was very useful in explaining how to draw shapes interactively.
  49. # [01:13] <CapnKernel> It would be trivial to add circle drawing.
  50. # [01:14] <ale> Yep well, but the code for circles is different! I am getting crazy to get the coordinates to draw it!
  51. # [01:14] <ale> I mean, the mousemove event
  52. # [01:16] <CapnKernel> The event processing is all in that article.
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  63. # [01:29] <CapnKernel> ale: Get that article going (and understand it) then modify it to use beginPath/arc/closePath/stroke.
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  294. # [11:25] <Pomax> hmm.. generic chicks to get the male attention, a guy with a furry, and some group shot of people we don't know. not a fan of the firefox.com site atm. bring back the happy drawings =(
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  333. # [12:41] <coderzach> For implementing a client
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  436. # [16:30] <ldleworker> Okay I have multiple buttons in a form. I use them for formset behavior. However clicking any of these buttons in IE causes a form submit. Why doe non type="submit" buttons cause form submission?
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  442. # [16:44] <Pomax> which type are you using, ldleworker
  443. # [16:44] <Pomax> "button"?
  444. # [16:45] <ldleworker> Pomax, no type. I guess the default is submit, for IE8
  445. # [16:45] <Pomax> (if you omit the type, it defaults to type=submit)
  446. # [16:45] <Pomax> for everyone
  447. # [16:45] <Pomax> it's the official HTML spec default =)
  448. # [16:50] <ldleworker> Odd, leaving it out doesn't cause submission in chrome
  449. # [16:53] <Pomax> then chrome is violating HTML spec
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  606. # [20:14] <deed02392> Hi guys, I want to make an advent calendar where each door can be clicked on and opened up with animation
  607. # [20:14] <deed02392> What is the best way to go about doing this? Making animated gifs for tween?
  608. # [20:15] <deed02392> Or using entities and animating them?
  609. # [20:15] <deed02392> The latter I imagine would be much more difficult
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  612. # [20:22] <Conexion> Well, it is a bit late for doing advent calendars :p But I think animated DIVs would be the most straight forward
  613. # [20:23] <deed02392> I know Conexion, a late idea we wanna implement for next year :)
  614. # [20:23] <deed02392> Hence why I'm not shy to use HTML5
  615. # [20:23] <deed02392> So how would you go about doing that? Creating a DIV for the door and animating it with javascript?
  616. # [20:23] <Conexion> I'd probably use a div in a div with using a CSS animation to reveal the item undernieth
  617. # [20:23] <Conexion> underneath*
  618. # [20:24] <deed02392> ah ok
  619. # [20:24] <Conexion> That way the browser is taking care of all the hard work
  620. # [20:24] <Conexion> instead of you or javascript
  621. # [20:24] <deed02392> a DIV could sit atop the prize and clicking on it could make it slide away and then delete when it's 1px wide or whatever
  622. # [20:24] <deed02392> not slide but appear to be opening by shrinking its width if you know what i mean
  623. # [20:25] <deed02392> yeah I like that idea, saves a lot of effort that would otherwise go into paying designers!
  624. # [20:25] <Conexion> Yup, heck, you can use JavaScript to listen for when the animation finishes, and as soon as it does, remove it from the DOM
  625. # [20:25] <deed02392> exactly that'd be ideal I think
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  628. # [20:26] <Conexion> Just note that when listening for animations to finish, it bubbles so it can cause some odd effects if you don't stop it from propagating, but you can worry about that when you get there
  629. # [20:26] <deed02392> how do you mean it bubbles?
  630. # [20:26] <deed02392> if an animation is happening below an element it will still trigger the animation end event?
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  634. # [20:29] <deed02392> ping Conexion
  635. # [20:30] <Conexion> Sorry, basically, if an animation finishes on a child element
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  637. # [20:30] <Conexion> it will trigger animation finishes on parent elements
  638. # [20:30] <Conexion> that shouldn't be a problem with what you're working on though
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  644. # [20:33] <Conexion> deed02392*
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  650. # [20:37] <deed02392> yeah thought so Conexion :) thanks bud, sometimes it just helps to chat about these things to someone else to get an idea of the best methods
  651. # [20:37] <Conexion> Totally understand
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  699. # [22:33] <Pomax> mmm spinny time.
  700. # [22:33] <Pomax> http://jsfiddle.net/V6RP4/6/
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  702. # [22:36] <doritoDan> <body> <header id="page_header"> <nav="nav_menu">…</nav> </header> <section id="page_body"> <article id="page_content">…</article> <footer id="page_footer">…</footer> </body>
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  704. # [22:36] <doritoDan> Does this make sense to you guys?
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  706. # [22:36] <doritoDan> structurally
  707. # [22:36] <doritoDan> whoops, forgot to close a tag
  708. # [22:36] <doritoDan> <body> <header id="page_header"> <nav="nav_menu">…</nav> </header> <section id="page_body"> <article id="page_content">…</article> </section> <footer id="page_footer">…</footer> </body>
  709. # [22:36] <doritoDan> There.
  710. # [22:37] <sebadoh> why would you need id="page_header"
  711. # [22:38] <doritoDan> are you asking why i have a header tag, or why it has an id+
  712. # [22:38] <doritoDan> ?*
  713. # [22:38] <sebadoh> why it has an id
  714. # [22:38] <tw2113> probably the ID part
  715. # [22:38] <tw2113> but you can have many <header> tags technically
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  717. # [22:38] <sebadoh> but wouldnt you only typically have one header tag?
  718. # [22:38] <doritoDan> I have an ID for styling purposes
  719. # [22:38] <sebadoh> so what is the purpose of the id?
  720. # [22:38] <doritoDan> why?
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  722. # [22:39] <doritoDan> ^
  723. # [22:39] <doritoDan> styling
  724. # [22:39] <sebadoh> but why not just stylize the header
  725. # [22:39] <doritoDan> stylize?
  726. # [22:39] <sebadoh> header { css goes here }
  727. # [22:39] <tw2113> header { color: red; }
  728. # [22:39] <doritoDan> because there can be multiple headers
  729. # [22:39] <tw2113> article>header { color: blue; }
  730. # [22:39] <sebadoh> rather than header#page_header { css goes here }
  731. # [22:39] <tw2113> ;)
  732. # [22:39] <doritoDan> an article can also contain a header and footer
  733. # [22:39] <doritoDan> so i want to select different headers
  734. # [22:39] <sebadoh> ah
  735. # [22:39] <sebadoh> ok
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  737. # [22:40] <doritoDan> also, i put id's there to give you an idea of what the elements are
  738. # [22:40] <doritoDan> so that you can better judge the relevancy of my html5 tags
  739. # [22:40] <doritoDan> so uh
  740. # [22:40] <sebadoh> im new to html5 so i was curious
  741. # [22:40] <doritoDan> any comments on the structure?
  742. # [22:40] <tw2113> or quick js selection
  743. # [22:40] <doritoDan> and nesting
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  768. # [23:10] <djazz> have anyone been playing with canvas patterns?
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