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  40. # [01:38] <tw2113> divya did you have fun at Fronteers 2011?
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  49. # [01:49] <daleharvey> woot, got a bunch of updates to http://junk.arandomurl.com/Protoshop/
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  84. # [04:09] <tw2113> how is everyone?
  85. # [04:11] <leogseige> i was okay, but I just accidentally fell into the "goal" without getting the chaos emerald on the bonus stage
  86. # [04:11] * leogseige is now known as leofseige
  87. # [04:12] <tw2113> no idea what game that is, but DOH!
  88. # [04:12] <leofseige> sonic the hedgehog, genesis
  89. # [04:12] <tw2113> ah
  90. # [04:12] <tw2113> old skoolz
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  93. # [04:14] <tw2113> my brain is growing a bit thanks to a js basics presentation
  94. # [04:15] <leofseige> tw2113: try this http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/internals/howbrowserswork/
  95. # [04:15] <tw2113> does it have a manly swedish accent reading to me?
  96. # [04:15] <leofseige> now your browser is an OS
  97. # [04:16] <leofseige> it's read in the voice of Harvey Fierstein
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  101. # [04:24] <tw2113> i like that vimeo uses an ID of "meat"
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  364. # [16:41] <root66> I am way too amused with this (it will be fixed in a minute)
  365. # [16:42] <root66> http://hookerbots.com/npc/html5.php?script=default&w=1280&h=720
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  369. # [17:15] <root66> I saved it as http://hookerbots.com/npc/html5.php?script=TrippyCab&w=1280&h=720 so I can amuse myself with it later
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  381. # [17:43] <Jayflux> root66 i don't get it? lol
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  386. # [17:59] <amateescu> hey
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  388. # [18:00] <amateescu> what do you guys think about the <meter> tag and it's current browser/styling support? is it worth implementing?
  389. # [18:04] <root66> Jayflux: steer with WASD
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  391. # [18:09] <Jayflux> ah ic
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  396. # [18:14] <rhelic> amateescu: considering that not even IE9 supports it, I'd say skip it for now, use jQuery
  397. # [18:14] <rhelic> I mean, some jQuery plugin
  398. # [18:14] <rhelic> at best you only have Chrome & FF, and that's not really good enough imho
  399. # [18:14] <amateescu> rhelic: IE9.. and not even FF :(
  400. # [18:15] <rhelic> even worse
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  402. # [18:16] <amateescu> rhelic: this is for the Drupal 8 Poll.module, where we want to go all-html5 & shit, but I would recommend to stay away from it atm and just use two divs
  403. # [18:17] <rhelic> I understand, but when the tag only works in like 25% of the overall market, it's just not good enough
  404. # [18:17] <rhelic> hell even if FF9 and IE9 supported it, it's iffy
  405. # [18:17] <rhelic> IE8 is still a major browser I'm not 100% sure I can turn my back on, technically we support it at my job's web apps, but nothing less
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  408. # [18:18] <amateescu> rhelic: my thoughts exactly. ok, back to divs then :)
  409. # [18:19] <rhelic> and I consider my outlook pretty strict, as in I don't put up with browser bullshit
  410. # [18:19] <rhelic> honestly, I only care about IE8 enough to "work", I care nothing for accuracy
  411. # [18:19] <rhelic> and only because MS didn't allow IE9 on XP, if they did it wouldn't even be on my small list
  412. # [18:19] <amateescu> hehe
  413. # [18:20] <rhelic> at the company we work for, we've adopted a mandatory "you must use the latest IE" policy for our clients
  414. # [18:21] <rhelic> if they want to pull some "but we must keep IE6 for our shitty ActiveX webapps", well then they are required to use updated Chrome/Safari/FF
  415. # [18:21] <rhelic> there's no way around it
  416. # [18:21] <rhelic> which definately makes it a pleasure to webdev our apps
  417. # [18:21] <rhelic> afk
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  441. # [19:12] <Wilto> I’m having trouble digging up much information on <source> media attributes—top of someone’s head, how’s support in the modern browsers? Fair?
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  458. # [19:40] <Wilto> Lookin’ like nada.
  459. # [19:40] <rhelic> Wilto: you need to fix your client's quotes
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  461. # [19:40] <Wilto> My what now?
  462. # [19:41] <Wilto> Oh. I do that by hand; why?
  463. # [19:41] <rhelic> ’ vs '
  464. # [19:41] <rhelic> if you are using mirc you can toggle it via CTRL+SHIFT+'
  465. # [19:41] <Wilto> No, I mean, I actually type them.
  466. # [19:42] <rhelic> if you hit the quote key and it comes out curvy, then you are NOT typing them
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  468. # [19:42] <rhelic> you can't get curvy quotes unless you are intering the high ascii or unicode value for them
  469. # [19:43] <Wilto> I… I don't know how to convey to you that I am using my keyboard to produce these characters. "”"
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  471. # [19:43] <rhelic> just answer the question
  472. # [19:43] <rhelic> which one are you doing
  473. # [19:43] <rhelic> either you are typing ALT+numbers or you are hitting the quote key
  474. # [19:43] <Wilto> Option + Shift + [
  475. # [19:43] <Wilto> So. I hope this slakes your weird, insistant thirst? Are you gonna give me a "why" here, or what?
  476. # [19:44] <rhelic> no, I'll leave you with this
  477. # [19:44] <rhelic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDPxd07I778
  478. # [19:44] <rhelic> you'll be begging for Rebecca Black back... same producer as this
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  482. # [19:48] <Wilto> Right, okay. “Good” talk.
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  523. # [21:12] <illic1t> when is Windows Explorer going to be any good?
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  596. # [23:46] <norbert_> hey all
  597. # [23:47] <norbert_> I have a website, html5-games.org that has been on-line for little over a year now
  598. # [23:47] <norbert_> looking for 'html5 games' via Google currently has my site on #4
  599. # [23:47] <norbert_> usually it's at #6, but it's always somewhere between 4 and 6
  600. # [23:48] <norbert_> but I barely get any visitors
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  602. # [23:48] <norbert_> now I'm thinking about just removing the whole site
  603. # [23:48] <norbert_> because it takes lots of time recording all these videos
  604. # [23:48] <norbert_> and I doubt the number of visitors will ever increase
  605. # [23:49] <norbert_> I have a list of about 20 of the main html5 game websites and all but a few of them have stopped posting new games
  606. # [23:49] <norbert_> I expected html5 to be a lot more popular by now, to be honest
  607. # [23:50] <norbert_> if I leave a game on the frontpage for a week and check how many plays it got, over 30 is a lot
  608. # [23:51] <norbert_> and then I'm not talking about a crappy game, but even impressive things like Kincses Torony that is currently on the frontpage
  609. # [23:51] <norbert_> most of the plays are from search engines to begin with
  610. # [23:52] <norbert_> it just seems that nobody really cares about html5
  611. # [23:52] <norbert_> or, also possible, nobody cares about my site
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  613. # [23:52] <norbert_> but it's 4-6 on Google and I barely get anyone to my site
  614. # [23:53] <norbert_> so, I decided to come here and see if anyone can give a reason not to delete my site
  615. # [23:53] <norbert_> because really, 552 games now and each I recorded a video for
  616. # [23:53] <norbert_> I'm wasting away my life like this
  617. # [23:53] <norbert_> would be worth the trouble if anyone but me cared
  618. # [23:53] <norbert_> and I no longer do :|
  619. # [23:54] <root66> honestly, why not just have a blog that links to the games? forget recording videos
  620. # [23:54] <root66> they are just little web based games
  621. # [23:54] <root66> we can try them quickly enough
  622. # [23:54] <norbert_> that's true, but plenty of sites like that already exist
  623. # [23:55] <root66> and you wonder why you don't have a lot of visitors
  624. # [23:55] <norbert_> well, I'm at 4-6 on Google, so most of the other sites must be doing even worse
  625. # [23:56] <root66> well first consider a few things
  626. # [23:57] <root66> first, your search terms. I don't know anyone who would type "html5 games"
  627. # [23:57] <root66> at least no one who sits around playing games in browsers
  628. # [23:57] <root66> it seems like having the video demos and the search terms that you are targetting, you should format the site to showcase technology to other developers
  629. # [23:58] <root66> if you are aiming for casual gamers, rethink your promotional strategy
  630. # [23:58] <root66> obviously you won't place well for "games", so you need to advertise
  631. # [23:59] <root66> having decent results for unlikely search terms is hardly even a good start, promotion wise
  632. # Session Close: Mon Jan 09 00:00:00 2012

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