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  32. # [01:07] <FlashDev> moo-_-: thanks , can you explain how to use it
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  34. # [01:08] <moo-_-> no
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  36. # [01:08] <moo-_-> it contains very good documentation
  37. # [01:08] <moo-_-> you should be ok with that
  38. # [01:08] <FlashDev> moo-_-: I uploaded my font and now I have the kit
  39. # [01:08] <FlashDev> ok
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  43. # [01:15] <FlashDev> moo-_-: I see how it work but the font that i upload is not the font that is on the html test page that they give me
  44. # [01:15] <FlashDev> does it work with every font ?
  45. # [01:15] <moo-_-> I am sorry I cannot help you
  46. # [01:15] <FlashDev> ok
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  55. # [01:27] <omabena> x
  56. # [01:27] <omabena> x
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  62. # [01:43] <Iarfen> Hi!!
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  69. # [01:59] <omabena> Hi
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  81. # [02:40] <Iarfen> what sound format is supported by all browsers that support html5??
  82. # [02:51] <tw2113> if i recall, you'll cover every browser if you provide both webm & mp4 codecs
  83. # [02:53] <tw2113> there isn't 1 for all right now, you'll need at least 2
  84. # [02:56] <Pomax> unless you like .wav
  85. # [02:56] <Armen> who doesn't
  86. # [02:57] <tw2113> who does besides Microsoft
  87. # [03:01] <dpogue_> Actually, everyone supports wav *except* Microsoft
  88. # [03:03] <tw2113> always the rebels
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  100. # [03:46] <FlashDev> Hello , In photoshop I do a "divide effect " on my image can I do that in css ?
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  102. # [03:53] <tw2113> what is a "divide effect"
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  113. # [04:14] <UidX> is there a way to force the font size to be fit into a <td>?
  114. # [04:14] <Pomax> given that a <td> has no fixed size, what's the real question?
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  116. # [04:16] <UidX> ok, <td> has no fixed size and
  117. # [04:16] <UidX> i'm making a search page, and some search result just.. uhh
  118. # [04:17] <UidX> because of word-warp thing, the result just takes up 2 lines
  119. # [04:17] <UidX> so i want to decrease the font size of this result to fit inside the <td> - take up only 1 line as other results
  120. # [04:18] <Pomax> wouldn't it more sense to cut off you text with a [...] on the generating side so you have a fixed string length?
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  122. # [04:18] <Pomax> that said, there's no automatic way to do that, as far as I know, but you could use javascript to decrease the fontsize until there was no horizontal overflow on the <td> element.
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  124. # [04:20] <Pomax> you can also set a fixed height on the <td> and an overflow-x:hidden so that strings that are too long are just "cut off" rather than word-wrapping getting applied.
  125. # [04:20] <Pomax> (just make sure to set overflow-y to visible, rather than scroll)
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  166. # [05:44] <Efnet_> hi
  167. # [05:44] <Efnet_> i have a question please
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  192. # [06:35] <grantg> Does anyone know why usingRAF in firefox causes more tearing versus less when without?
  193. # [06:36] <grantg> Chrome seems to be the only one to never tear w/ RAF (Which is what RAF is supposed to do (Match v-blank and align to it)).
  194. # [06:37] <grantg> I swear every version of Firefox since RAF was introduced has put an even lower artificial frame rate cap than the last.
  195. # [06:37] <grantg> It's like 10 fps now on mac
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  219. # [07:19] <grantg> heh, just noticed you can screw with chrome's RAF if you skip RAF calls, it screws with frame spacing later down.
  220. # [07:19] <grantg> Making dummy canvas calls for when nothing needs to be done fixes frame timing with chrome's RAF
  221. # [07:19] <grantg> As chrome inserts a framing delay that's a bit much when it sees RAF is not being done for a bit
  222. # [07:20] <grantg> :I
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  228. # [07:45] <niloy> anyone knows FormData shim for IE?
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  230. # [07:55] <paul_irish> grantg: we should get one of the moz GPU guys in here
  231. # [07:55] <paul_irish> hmm
  232. # [07:55] <grantg> just went to #gfx at the moz irc
  233. # [07:55] <grantg> It does seem so far that calling mozRequestAnimationFrame outside the event handler screws up RAF timing in FF.
  234. # [07:55] <paul_irish> o
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  236. # [07:55] <paul_irish> success?
  237. # [07:56] <grantg> Either call mozRequestAnimationFrame from WITHIN its event handler or don't use RAF
  238. # [07:56] <grantg> I
  239. # [07:56] <grantg> I'm not calling mozRequestAnimationFrame anymore
  240. # [07:56] <grantg> Because I don't want to gen extra dummy frames while at the same time not v-syncing
  241. # [07:57] <grantg> for the lack of v-sync, here's the actually old moz bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555834
  242. # [07:57] <grantg> Makes RAF pointless in FF
  243. # [07:57] <grantg> seriously
  244. # [07:57] <grantg> p-o-i-n-t-l-e-s-s
  245. # [07:58] <grantg> setInterval does it better
  246. # [07:59] <grantg> :/
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  271. # [08:47] <Syliss> so need to learn html5
  272. # [08:48] <tw2113> the apis or the new markup?
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  292. # [09:38] <obert-> the js, if it is html5:D
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  349. # [11:05] <dnsdds> I have an autoplay video element that first plays with just the audio for a while, and then begins again from the beginning with audio & video. Any way to get rid of the glitchy beginning?
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  368. # [11:38] <nonous> Hi all.
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  381. # [11:46] <nonous> #css
  382. # [11:47] <nonous> how can i open new channel? sorry first time with irc
  383. # [11:48] <skylamer`> paul_irish
  384. # [11:48] <skylamer`> can i ask u?
  385. # [11:48] <danielfilho> nonous: you might find it here: http://freenode.net/
  386. # [11:49] <nonous> danielfilho : thanks
  387. # [11:51] <danielfilho> skylamer`: I think it's 2h45am where he is now. He might take a while to answer :)
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  389. # [11:52] <skylamer`> :D)
  390. # [11:52] <skylamer`> anyone of u using chromedev autosave tools?
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  399. # [12:05] <Guest0831> hei
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  402. # [12:06] <Guest0831> anybody in here?
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  486. # [14:34] <UidX> i have a question about audio tag - if i specify more than one "src" attribute, is it gonna play all of them?
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  489. # [14:40] <RobLoach> UidX: It'll play the source tag that it has the ability to play.
  490. # [14:40] <UidX> oh, thanks
  491. # [14:40] <RobLoach> If you have ogg and mp3, you'll be covering most browsers.
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  500. # Session Start: Mon Feb 06 15:09:00 2012
  501. # Session Ident: #html5
  502. # [15:09] * Now talking in #html5
  503. # [15:09] * Topic is 'Ask any question about HTML5 & Friends || HTML5 Spec for Developers: http://developers.whatwg.org || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.info http://mzl.la/9giLwR || Channel logs: http://j.mp/cG7UDa'
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  506. # [15:09] <UidX> oh i solved that with ellipsis
  507. # [15:09] <UidX> thanks anyway
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  659. # [18:28] <martisj> ANy comments/suggestions on which list type i should use for the "Topp 5" section on this page, http://goo.gl/jpoa3 ??
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  696. # [19:03] <danielfilho> martisj: I'd use dl/dt/dd or ul/li
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  698. # [19:05] <martisj> danielfilho: thanks, i've set it up with dl now, but i want to add a hover color effect to the "whole" box when the mouse is on the play button or text and inside the box
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  701. # [19:06] <danielfilho> martisj: go for it! :)
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  706. # [19:07] <martisj> danielfilho: wouldn't it be best to use ul?
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  714. # [19:16] <FlashDev_> Hi guys I am using font generator but it take long time to load any idea why ?
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  717. # [19:18] <Pomax> is the font big?
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  722. # [19:25] <JonathanNeal> hello
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  729. # [19:35] <David_Bradbury> Hello
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  746. # [19:44] <tw2113> j #wordpress
  747. # [19:44] <rhelic> nou
  748. # [19:44] <tw2113> damn typo
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  750. # [19:46] <tw2113> can't blame autocorrect, so i have to blame myself
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  754. # [19:54] <Guest2228> hello
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  756. # [19:55] <Guest2228> hello I am Dear from thailand
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  797. # [20:15] <taylorRichie> Hello room. Can anyone recommend a Grid system, or starting width that's over 1200pixels… I have a client whose internal design team created their PSDs at almost 1400 pixels… I've lost the war with them on going with something more in the 1024 range. But I think I can get away with something in the 1200 pixel range.
  798. # [20:15] <taylorRichie> Wondering if there is an html5 framework out there that may work for me.
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  800. # [20:16] <martisj> html5 boilerplate
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  802. # [20:17] <taylorRichie> Definitely be using Boilerplate, I was meaning more for Grid system. (perhaps I should be asking in the CSS channel)
  803. # [20:17] <nimbu> well its not a grid system
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  807. # [20:20] <ryan_tait> http://1200px.com/
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  810. # [20:22] <taylorRichie> Well look at that! Thanks ryan_tait!
  811. # [20:22] <ryan_tait> np :)
  812. # [20:22] <ryan_tait> first google result for 1200px grid
  813. # [20:22] <ryan_tait> lol
  814. # [20:22] <rhelic> about time somebody deployed a bigger one
  815. # [20:22] <rhelic> by the time I heard about 960px grid, it seemed too small, widescreen was the norm
  816. # [20:23] <moo-_-> you evil ipad haters
  817. # [20:23] <moo-_-> no 1200px!
  818. # [20:23] <rhelic> although netbooks & tablets are big now, so 960 has become more popular again
  819. # [20:23] <rhelic> moo-_-: tell Apple to hurry up and release that Retina iPad 3
  820. # [20:23] <moo-_-> can't afford new iPride :<
  821. # [20:23] <rhelic> it's not that we had ipads, it's that iPads hate the present tech
  822. # [20:23] <ryan_tait> if your using libraries like jquery ui or bootstrap they have built in grid systems too
  823. # [20:24] <ryan_tait> havent used um personally though
  824. # [20:28] <taylorRichie> I wish I could use a more friendly resolution, and trust me I tried. I wanted to do a full fluid or responsive design. But I lost the battle. :(
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  827. # [20:28] <taylorRichie> I'll look at the Jquery UI grid system… I haven't used them either, and generally I write my own grids, but I wanted something I could show the client really quick. (His PSDs are built on 1500 pixel wide) I said I can't do that.
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  861. # [21:22] <jamund> you guys have many opinions about building large-ish websites with OOCSS and Twitter Bootsrap. i feel like both approaches spend a lot of time worrying about older browsers and as such end up being a little more complicated than needed, but i'm still learning, anyone have thoughts?
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  870. # [21:27] <jamund> like i'm looking at this twitter bootstrap example and it seems like div soup. http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/examples/fluid.html#
  871. # [21:27] <jamund> at the style names are documented
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  875. # [21:29] <moo-_-> jamund: jquery ui is less soupy, because they do partial DOM construction in Javascript
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  877. # [21:29] <moo-_-> if that's one of your criteria
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  879. # [21:31] <jamund> i'm thinking more for page layouts, nav, grid and stuff. looking at different approaches vs. rolling our own.
  880. # [21:31] <moo-_-> jamund: ok
  881. # [21:32] <jamund> thanks for the tip about jquery ui though as far as widgets and things are concerned
  882. # [21:32] <moo-_-> jamund: it has some sort of grid system
  883. # [21:32] <moo-_-> never used it, though
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  896. # [21:50] <Armen_> jamund: i had not seen that twitter bootstrap thing, but it seems overkill to me
  897. # [21:51] <Armen_> i've always used the CSS from 960.gs and filled in my own html/html5 stuff
  898. # [21:51] <jamund> interesting. yeah. we're re-building a site with tons go pages and looking for some best practices/ templates.
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  901. # [21:55] <Armen_> I will still have a closer look at twitter bootstrap when I get home to see if it can in some way improve my workflow
  902. # [21:55] <Armen_> who knows :)
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  907. # [21:57] <jamund> Armen_: they have a bunch of cool widgets, the defaults are all nicely styled, etc.
  908. # [21:58] <jamund> If you want your site to look like theirs :-p
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  999. # [23:39] <bot-t> If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for topic experts. Don't ask to ask. Don't PM! Don't ask if people are awake, or in the mood to help. Just ask the question straight out. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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