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- # [00:12] <csmrfx> jarek: at least you're not using jquery with your svg
- # [00:13] <jarek> I detest jQuery
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- # [00:13] <jarek> it used to be useful few years ago, but now it's only causing problems
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- # [00:16] <csmrfx> well, the css selectors for traversing DOM are a brilliant idea that took DOM W3 group over a decade to get
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- # [00:16] <csmrfx> or whatever
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- # [00:17] <jarek> document.querySelector() was inspired by jQuery?
- # [00:17] <csmrfx> who knows but it is the same idea
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- # [00:18] <jarek> definitely superior to XPath
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- # [00:19] <csmrfx> I'd say more practical
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- # [00:20] <csmrfx> try teaching ppl xpath axis and they will be like wha? why didnt it select this or that
- # [00:21] <insin> parent::*/text() - your move, CSS
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- # [00:37] <Moo-_^> querySelector() was most likely inspired by CSS
- # [00:37] <Moo-_^> like it inspired jQuery selectors...
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- # [00:56] <WebDragon> paul_irish: actually I'd intended to ask you about the chrome frame stuff but I found what I was looking for
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- # [02:51] <grantg> paul_irish: image-rendering: webkit-optimize-contrast should use a different scaling algo
- # [02:51] <grantg> What do you think?
- # [02:51] <grantg> There are better algos that keep the contrast that don't flicker like nearest neighbor
- # [02:52] <grantg> It seems -moz-crisp-edges also uses nn
- # [02:53] <grantg> That image resizing algo I did not too long ago does this, and V8 can run it well in js, so a c++ version wouldn't seem bad
- # [02:53] <grantg> https://github.com/grantgalitz/JS-Image-Resizer/blob/master/resize.js
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- # [02:53] <grantg> It doesn't have the pixel grow/shrink flicker like nearest-neighbor
- # [02:54] <grantg> so thinks like a background moving don't have flicker
- # [02:54] <grantg> because it uses a rolling counter system that's float based and will resolve intermediary pixels
- # [02:55] <grantg> scaling down will cause a bilinear effect, to prevent image data loss, while upscaling will look closer to nearest-neighbor, the larger it's scaled up by
- # [02:56] <grantg> I already tested it in my js gbc emulator in firefox and chrome, performs on par with nearest neighbor
- # [02:56] <grantg> due to the tight loops
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- # [02:56] <grantg> Damn, I should really help the webkit guys out and port this code to c++
- # [02:57] <grantg> :I
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- # [02:58] <grantg> http://i.imgur.com/tkyOq.jpg is what it looks like when heavily upscaled (pic from the algo being used to js scale the image, instead of letting chrome scale it)
- # [02:59] <grantg> Should be cache-local for at least the second resize pass
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- # [03:03] <grantg> It looks like it's not multi-tap, but it is, it has a counter system for an inner loop that adds to a rolling average
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- # [03:07] <grantg> Also, it does RGBA, so it should play nicely
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- # [06:23] <villain_> menu's breaking, the boxs aren't floating, anyone could help me?
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- # [13:46] <robinduckett> Anyone know where I can get a reference of the events triggered by the input[type="range"] element?
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- # [13:48] <csmrfx> !g html5 input type="range"
- # [13:48] <csmrfx> ?g html5 input type="range"
- # [13:48] <bot-t> csmrfx, input type=range imprecise number-input control (NEW) - HTML5 - http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/input.range.html
- # [13:52] <csmrfx> hmmm
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- # [13:52] <robinduckett> csmrfx: yes because I'm incapable of googling
- # [13:53] <robinduckett> there is no events listed
- # [13:53] <robinduckett> *are
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- # [13:57] <csmrfx> indeed, seems there is v
- # [13:57] <csmrfx> ery little documentation on that topic
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- # [14:00] <Motafoca> guys, is there a make to mask the caracters on an input using html5 and no javascript?
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- # [14:00] <skylamer`> what u mean by 'mask' ?
- # [14:01] <Motafoca> like i type a date 99/99/9999
- # [14:01] <Motafoca> it only allows numbers
- # [14:01] <Motafoca> to be typed
- # [14:01] <skylamer`> yes
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- # [14:02] <Motafoca> how?
- # [14:02] <Motafoca> :)
- # [14:02] <skylamer`> input type date, number and others
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- # [14:03] <Motafoca> skylamer`: i tried this example: http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_input_type_date
- # [14:03] <Motafoca> it allows me to type anything
- # [14:04] <moo_> Motafoca: http://w3fools.com/
- # [14:04] <moo_> w3cschools.com is bad source for anything
- # [14:04] <skylamer`> look here then http://developers.whatwg.org/forms.html
- # [14:05] <skylamer`> http://developers.whatwg.org/the-input-element.html
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- # [14:08] <Motafoca> odd
- # [14:08] <Motafoca> im using chrome
- # [14:08] <Motafoca> and its not masking
- # [14:08] <Motafoca> lol
- # [14:10] <skylamer`> http://html5pattern.com/
- # [14:10] <Motafoca> ah, but it checks after submit
- # [14:10] <Motafoca> cant i check during typing?
- # [14:10] <skylamer`> why u even bother what its typing, just add this and it will not be send if isnt complete the patternZ :}
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- # [14:11] <Motafoca> like this
- # [14:11] <Motafoca> http://digitalbush.com/projects/masked-input-plugin/
- # [14:11] <skylamer`> so where's rthe difference?
- # [14:11] <Motafoca> check the demo
- # [14:11] <bobs_> you don't want to report an error while the user is typing
- # [14:11] <Motafoca> that demo demonstrates what i want
- # [14:11] <Motafoca> easy to explain
- # [14:11] <skylamer`> its not your problem that 'the user' can type anything
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- # [16:44] <aleray> hi, I'm looking for how to markup a dialog. Any idea?
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- # [16:47] <mike5w3c> aleray: what kind of dialog?
- # [16:47] <aleray> mike5w3c, I transcribed an interview
- # [16:47] <mike5w3c> ah
- # [16:47] <mike5w3c> yeah
- # [16:47] <mike5w3c> we had an element for that but most people didn't like it
- # [16:48] <mike5w3c> I don't know what the current markup-expert guidance on that is
- # [16:48] <mike5w3c> but maybe there's something on the html5 doctors site
- # [16:48] <aleray> mike5w3c, I personnally found the dialog tag very useful
- # [16:49] <aleray> but now its gone
- # [16:49] <mike5w3c> yeah because most people don't have use for it
- # [16:49] <mike5w3c> like, we could add a <poem> element too
- # [16:51] <mike5w3c> I think in general it's best to consider HTML to be more like RTF than like .. Docbook or LaTeX or whatever
- # [16:51] <mike5w3c> that is, use whatever gets the job done and that brings the least maintenance cost
- # [16:52] <mike5w3c> as long as it doesn't have accessibility problems or whatever
- # [16:52] * daleharvey wishes there was just no restrictions on tags, just let arbitrary tags
- # [16:52] <mike5w3c> 99.99% of the universe is never going to read your code or care what markup choices you made
- # [16:53] <mike5w3c> there are no restrictions actually
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- # [16:53] <mike5w3c> you can use a <dialog> element if you like
- # [16:54] <daleharvey> yeh you just need to shim them, I have considered doing a site thats just made up tags for the sake of it, maybe next time
- # [16:55] <mike5w3c> well anyway the HTML language is a joke as far as semantic richness goes
- # [16:55] <mike5w3c> it's a lost cause
- # [16:55] <daleharvey> agreed
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- # [16:56] <daleharvey> well, I dont think its a lost cause, but its not something I worry a whole lot about
- # [16:56] <mike5w3c> it's not something that users worry about at least
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- # [16:57] <mike5w3c> actual users care about the semantics of the HTML source for the Web content they use as they do about the Postscript source for the PDFs they use
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- # [16:57] <daleharvey> I think a lot of it died with xhtml, if browsers are the only ones who can read html, there isnt much point in it not being an object code for browsers
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- # [16:58] <mike5w3c> there are lots of things other than browsers that can read HTML
- # [16:58] <mike5w3c> lots
- # [16:58] <mike5w3c> like, search engines
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- # [17:02] <daleharvey> sure, there are a few decent libraries around and if you spend a lot of time and effort on it, you can do a somewhat decent job
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- # [17:02] <daleharvey> but parsing xml is trivial, and implemented in every language around
- # [17:03] <aleray> ok so for my dialog structure shall I just use <p> and classes ?
- # [17:03] <aleray> <p class="person">Alicia</p><p>I think that...</p>
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- # [17:04] <aleray> something like this
- # [17:04] <m00bles> you can use whatever you like. If your data is not an information repository (say, transcripts or historical conversation) semantic markup is just sugar coating.
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- # [17:05] <Pomax> it's nice if you use it for people who do care about semantic markup, but if you're just going to be presenting a bunch of conversation that will never really be used as source data for information extraction, go with what's most comfortable for you to write
- # [17:05] <Pomax> and understand.
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- # [17:07] <mike5w3c> aleray: what Pomax and other dude said
- # [17:07] <Pomax> also be aware that the <dialog> element *adds* code, it doesn't really replace it.
- # [17:07] <aleray> semantic is important in the sens that it as to be searchable but I use rdfa for this
- # [17:07] <Pomax> you're now marking up who-said-it with <dt> and what-said-thems with <dd>
- # [17:08] <Pomax> aleray, EVERY search engine already figured out excellent information extraction algorithms before HTML5 was a thinkle in the collective web's eye =)
- # [17:09] <aleray> Pomax, I meant searchable within my own system because I want to be able to aggreate every section where let say a person speaks
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- # [17:09] <aleray> (that's another question anyway)
- # [17:09] <Pomax> then the choice is obvious.
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- # [17:10] <Pomax> it's not even a question what to you, if you have your own system, and you want to do semantic extraction, you add as much markup as is required to make information extraction efficient.
- # [17:10] <Pomax> (and then you use a side by side indexer like Lucene or what-have-you to periodically index modified content)
- # [17:11] <aleray> Pomax, cool, nice to see how people relaxed about html semantic
- # [17:12] <aleray> I still remember the (not so) old times when it was *wrong* to not validate
- # [17:12] <Pomax> it is wrong not to validate, if you want to publish on the internet
- # [17:12] <Pomax> but if you can't validate because "the spec is too new", then you validate the parts that you can.
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- # [17:13] <Pomax> a lot of the HTML5 spec, in terms of elements, is stable, and can be validated.
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- # [17:14] <Pomax> so even though w3c says html5 validation is experimental, it'll typically have you covered.
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- # [17:22] <johnkpaul> Is there any standard shim for getComputedStyle in old IEs?
- # [17:22] <johnkpaul> I find one on javascriptkit.com that's very wrong
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- # [17:32] <mantas322> hey guys
- # [17:32] <mantas322> ummm
- # [17:32] <mantas322> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/offline.html I've been reading this
- # [17:32] <mantas322> and I have a question
- # [17:32] <mantas322> can My cache manifest point to other cache manifests?
- # [17:33] <mantas322> wait, i dont know if my quersiton makes sense
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- # [17:44] <skylamer`> why u want to point to others, mantas322? :)
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- # [17:52] <johnkpaul> Just in case anyone needs it, I made a shim for getComputedStyle().getCssPropertyValue() in old IEs
- # [17:52] <johnkpaul> https://gist.github.com/1790727
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- # [18:08] <paul_irish> johnkpaul: nice!
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- # [18:13] <johnkpaul> :)
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- # [20:47] <TheLittleOne> does anyone here have experience with cross-domain session sharing in non-html5 based apps?
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- # [20:52] <johnkpaul> non-html5 based apps?
- # [20:52] <johnkpaul> TheLittleOne: it depends on your server side platform, but there are ways to do it
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- # [20:54] <David_Bradbury> You know what sounds nice? Spicy Tuna Sushi with some sour cream mixed in and soy sauce
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- # [20:59] <TheLittleOne> johnkpaul: yeah, i am just trying to understand the exact workflow for setting up a iframe session transport across domains
- # [21:00] <TheLittleOne> johnkpaul: i feel i am going in circles from what the fb guy responded to
- # [21:00] <johnkpaul> iframe session transport?
- # [21:02] <TheLittleOne> yup
- # [21:02] <TheLittleOne> if i can just understand the workflow it'll get me through my immediate problem :-)
- # [21:02] <johnkpaul> sharing sessions across domains is usually ahndled on the server side, rather than actually sending the same cookies from the client (I think)
- # [21:02] <johnkpaul> what are you trying to do
- # [21:03] <TheLittleOne> perhaps there is a simpler thing that i need…i have 2 domains, one international TLD and one US based…i need to do some user property checks when a user navigates over to the ITL domain in order to disable some features which are not accessible for GUEST accounts…i really don't need a fancy session transport…just to detect if some javascript variable is true or false on the ITL domain…i was hoping the inner fra
- # [21:03] <TheLittleOne> would set the js variable
- # [21:04] <TheLittleOne> an entire session on the ITL domain would be nice, but yeah - not needed…but if i can get a simple js variable check to work in the parent window, the possibilities are endless i guess, heh
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- # [21:05] <TheLittleOne> even a one-way comm between the child and parent frames across domains would work, not necessary to have a 2-way
- # [21:06] <johnkpaul> hmm, my only reaction is to tell you to use JSONP, but I don't know if there is a better way
- # [21:07] <johnkpaul> use JSONP to make a requst to the US domain from the ITL domain and get back what ever informaton you need
- # [21:07] <TheLittleOne> any experience w/ easyXDM? perhaps that helps? i am not too familiar with jsonp - googling now :-)
- # [21:08] <johnkpaul> oh, I see, you can just use CORS, but you have to change your server to support it
- # [21:08] <johnkpaul> and not all browsers implement it
- # [21:08] <johnkpaul> I don't have any expereicne with easyXDM though
- # [21:09] <TheLittleOne> oh, looks like easyXDM doesn't support IE8<, bummer
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- # [21:11] <TheLittleOne> johnkpaul: thank you for the jsonp ref, i'll take a gander, it might help
- # [21:11] <TheLittleOne> cheers
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- # [21:36] <martisj> insin: thanks, do I have to use entities even though my charset is utf-8>
- # [21:36] <martisj> ?
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- # [21:44] <JonathanNeal> hober: you around?
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- # [21:46] <hober> JonathanNeal: yo
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- # [21:59] <tertl3> hello html5 runs on all browsers, even phnoes and tabs?
- # [22:00] <JonathanNeal> tertl3: specific HTML5 technology might not run on older browsers, check out http://html5test.com/
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- # [22:04] <tertl3> JonathanNeal wow IE sux
- # [22:05] <JonathanNeal> tertl3: sometimes ie is behind the curve, their legacy browsers also have a fairly significant market share still.
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- # [22:17] <tertl3> yes I know, this is the problem
- # [22:17] <tertl3> JonathanNeal ^
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- # [22:19] <WebDragon> is there a way to cause an iframe to be able to stretch to contain its changing content height-wise ?
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- # [22:22] <WebDragon> actually this might be better to ask in jquery
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- # [22:35] <tertl3> im looking for a tutorial on making interactive web pages
- # [22:35] <tertl3> with asp.net
- # [22:35] <tertl3> and html5
- # [22:39] <benv> webdragon: hey
- # [22:39] <benv> i know a bit about that
- # [22:39] <WebDragon> turns out it's difficult if it's from another domain
- # [22:39] <benv> webdragon: the answer kind of sucks though
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- # [22:39] <WebDragon> if not impossible
- # [22:40] <WebDragon> security issues with that, which makes sense
- # [22:40] <benv> aha, no, its not impossible
- # [22:40] <benv> nor insecure
- # [22:40] <WebDragon> oh?
- # [22:40] <WebDragon> how would one do it?
- # [22:40] <benv> okay, so, basically the iframe needs to report to the outer page what its size is
- # [22:40] <benv> and the outer page needs to do the resiziing
- # [22:40] <WebDragon> how do you get the messages passed back and forth?
- # [22:40] <benv> that's kind of tricky - whenever you touch the dom – add an element, change a class, anythign - you have to calculate and report the new height
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- # [22:40] <WebDragon> yeah
- # [22:40] <benv> webdragon: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/window.postMessage
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- # [22:41] <WebDragon> huh
- # [22:42] <WebDragon> have you done this sort of thing anywhere ?
- # [22:42] <benv> its an api for sending messages betw/ windows, including iframes
- # [22:42] <WebDragon> yeah I can see how that would be immensely useful
- # [22:42] <benv> hmm, yes
- # [22:42] <benv> a little bit
- # [22:42] <benv> <cough>
- # [22:42] <WebDragon> lol
- # [22:42] <benv> *SHAMELESS PLUG*
- # [22:42] <benv> http://thirdpartyjs.com/
- # [22:42] <WebDragon> oh so it IS sexy enough that there's porn of it?
- # [22:43] * WebDragon runs
- # [22:43] <WebDragon> :D
- # [22:43] <benv> im working on an app right now that does this
- # [22:43] <benv> the updating is the painful part … wish i knew a good way to do it
- # [22:43] <WebDragon> updating the remote ?
- # [22:43] <benv> triggering the resize message
- # [22:43] <benv> automatically
- # [22:44] <benv> like, knowing when to get the latest size
- # [22:44] <WebDragon> well let me show you the example of what I need
- # [22:44] <benv> you could do it on a timer, say, every 500ms, but its less responsive
- # [22:44] <WebDragon> we finished a lovely portfolio+ecommerce site for a client of ours using Magento + Wordpress: www.thinkaesthetica.com
- # [22:44] <WebDragon> feel free to click around a bit
- # [22:44] <benv> ok
- # [22:45] <benv> maybe this is what you want: http://benalman.com/code/projects/jquery-postmessage/examples/iframe/
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- # [22:45] <WebDragon> the client's decided that they want to work with this third party for display products but have got this thing where the third party has set up a site to be displayed by html frameset *gag*
- # [22:45] <WebDragon> not magento friendly
- # [22:45] <WebDragon> http://www.alldisplayproducts.com/ is the site in question
- # [22:46] <benv> uh huh
- # [22:46] <WebDragon> they want to have ONE page on aesthetica that their end-users can click around the display products of with the sidebar menu, but still get around on aesthetica from the top menu
- # [22:46] <WebDragon> so I was thinking about iframes
- # [22:46] <WebDragon> not valid under 4.01 strict or xhtml 1.0 strict but that's fine, html5 doctype = solved
- # [22:46] <benv> hmm, yeah, that would do it
- # [22:46] <benv> and be painful / not worth the effort :)
- # [22:46] <WebDragon> only real problem is the dynamic page height
- # [22:47] <benv> get the third party to set up some kind of simple api and then render the products w/ ajax
- # [22:47] <WebDragon> I thought about that too
- # [22:47] <WebDragon> only there's this:
- # [22:47] <benv> yeah, the dynamic page part
- # [22:47] <benv> means that, *they* would have to report the page height
- # [22:47] <WebDragon> http://www.alldisplayproducts.com/downloadcenter
- # [22:47] <benv> and im guessing you can't put the code inside the iframe
- # [22:47] <benv> since its theirs
- # [22:47] <WebDragon> yeah but I think I can get them to add code to their simple wordpress site
- # [22:48] <WebDragon> don't think it'd be much issue since they DID set this up for OUR client to use specifically
- # [22:48] <benv> eh, yea … so i guess you could add a little snippet, that, after the iframe has loaded
- # [22:48] <benv> checks the page height
- # [22:48] <benv> and sends a single postmessage message to the parent window
- # [22:48] <benv> and then you resize based off of that
- # [22:48] <benv> its safe because the iframe won't be listening for messages - its just reporting this single value, a pixel height
- # [22:49] <WebDragon> so it would fire off on document.ready() on their site, then they send postMessage, and our site responds to the event with a resize of the iframe
- # [22:49] <benv> if there are other pages that dont listen to the message, its ok, it will just be ignored
- # [22:49] <benv> yeah
- # [22:49] <benv> except don't use docready
- # [22:49] <benv> because that doesn't necessarily mean you'll have the real page height
- # [22:49] <benv> you'd have to wait for all elements to be loaded and such - images, whatever
- # [22:49] <WebDragon> use onload?
- # [22:49] <benv> yeah
- # [22:49] <WebDragon> okay sensible, good tip
- # [22:50] <benv> you can try it, at least
- # [22:50] <benv> but, might run into that trouble
- # [22:50] <WebDragon> sure can
- # [22:50] <WebDragon> which trouble
- # [22:50] <benv> sorry, i meant docready vs onload
- # [22:50] <WebDragon> oh yeah ok
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- # [22:50] <WebDragon> I can set up a few .mht's of the remote site to play with here locally
- # [22:51] * WebDragon hugs opera for handling .mht's well by default
- # [22:52] <WebDragon> thanks for the tip benv
- # [22:52] <WebDragon> I'll play with it this weekend and let you know how it works out
- # [22:53] <benv> np
- # [22:53] <WebDragon> also bookmarking your book
- # [22:53] <WebDragon> :D
- # [22:53] <WebDragon> see if I can get that wishlisted
- # [22:54] <benv> aww yea
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- # [22:54] <benv> if you buy it, then i can afford to get a coffee after lunch
- # [22:54] <benv> :P
- # [22:55] <WebDragon> hehe
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- # [22:55] <WebDragon> BJ's has $15 2.5 lb. bags of Ethiopian beans
- # [22:55] <WebDragon> bargain in a bag
- # [22:56] <WebDragon> fresh grrrround ethiopians
- # [22:56] * WebDragon grins dragonishly }B=&]
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- # [23:35] <acidjazz> yo im using xmlhttprequest and FileReader() and im in the onloadend callback .. lookking for my response from the server .. any1 know where that is?
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- # [23:37] <moo_> acidjazz: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!mdn+xmlhttprequest
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- # [23:37] <JonathanNeal> heyo
- # [23:37] <acidjazz> uhm
- # [23:37] <acidjazz> moo_: really?
- # [23:38] <JonathanNeal> paul_irish: are there any updates to our hosting issue?
- # [23:38] <moo_> acidjazz: that was the best answer for the question which was little hard to understand
- # [23:38] <acidjazz> so XMLHTTPRequest
- # [23:38] <acidjazz> level 2
- # [23:38] <acidjazz> has a callback onloadend
- # [23:38] <moo_> yes
- # [23:38] <acidjazz> runs when the file upload is complete
- # [23:38] <moo_> and MDN has dociumentation regarding it
- # [23:38] <moo_> with exampls
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- # [23:38] <acidjazz> i assume in that callback i can access the response from the server
- # [23:38] <moo_> you assume correct
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- # [23:39] <acidjazz> hmm looking through this i see 'response'
- # [23:39] <acidjazz> but no 'onloadend'
- # [23:40] <moo_> you can probably 1) use closure and access xhr object through it and get its data 2) save data in some other callback before onloadend
- # [23:40] <moo_> 3) onloadend has the data but hidden
- # [23:40] <moo_> for 3) I suggest you put in debugger; breakpoint in firebug and inspect around in javascript debugger
- # [23:41] <acidjazz> this is the return data
- # [23:41] <acidjazz> this doesnt appear until its done
- # [23:41] <acidjazz> yea ive done all that before i came in here
- # [23:41] <moo_> hmm
- # [23:41] <acidjazz> i went through the entire xhr obj and the returned onloadend obj
- # [23:41] <acidjazz> its ok if you dont know we're in the same spot.. just wonderin if someone knew off the top of their head
- # [23:42] <moo_> let me see what I am doing in my code
- # [23:42] <moo_> this takes few minutes to boot up...
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- # [23:45] <Mainmam> what's the point of making images in html5 rather than photoshop?
- # [23:45] <acidjazz> checking responseText, responseJSON, responseXML
- # [23:45] <Mainmam> lol
- # [23:47] <moo_> acidjazz: function onload() {
- # [23:47] <moo_> if (r.status == 200) {
- # [23:47] <moo_> console.log(r.responseText);
- # [23:47] <moo_> done(r.responseText);
- # [23:48] <acidjazz> what is r
- # [23:48] <acidjazz> var r = xmlhttprequest(); ?
- # [23:48] <moo_> var r = new XMLHttpRequest();
- # [23:48] <moo_> defined in closure
- # [23:48] <acidjazz> funciton onload() { }(r); ?
- # [23:48] <moo_> no
- # [23:48] <moo_> one
- # [23:48] <moo_> sec
- # [23:48] <moo_> I'll pastie
- # [23:49] <acidjazz> graci
- # [23:49] <moo_> acidjazz: http://pastie.org/3357548
- # [23:50] <acidjazz> yea like i said..
- # [23:50] <acidjazz> hnmm
- # [23:50] <acidjazz> var r = ..
- # [23:51] <acidjazz> im doing http://pastebin.com/4iyJ9xcr
- # [23:51] <acidjazz> im using FileReader()
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- # [23:53] <acidjazz> im getting that 200 moo_ .. just responseText is an empty string
- # [23:53] <acidjazz> when in the php file im clearly passing text
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- # [23:57] <moo_> acidjazz: inspect the response in Firebug Network tab
- # [23:57] <moo_> I assume your HTTP response is corrupted
- # [23:57] <moo_> OR
- # [23:57] <moo_> you are doing cross-site requests
- # [23:57] <moo_> but it should give error code 0
- # [23:58] <acidjazz> oh good idea
- # [23:58] <acidjazz> nope damn
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- # [23:59] <acidjazz> i think my answer is in xhr.upload()
- # [23:59] <acidjazz> and its callbacks
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