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  1. # Session Start: Thu Feb 16 00:00:00 2012
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  3. # [00:00] <grantg> So you can be sure the browser will never actually reach the timer rate that you specified, while in V8 it will due to early issuing as a timer compensation
  4. # [00:00] <grantg> :I
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  44. # [00:50] <jarek> Hello
  45. # [00:50] <jarek> does HTML5/CSS3 offer any alternative to traditional sprite images?
  46. # [00:51] <jarek> if I don't want the background images to flicker when toggling classes, is there any better approach than using sprites?
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  58. # [01:02] <themiddleman_itv> jarek: image uris
  59. # [01:02] <themiddleman_itv> er data uris with images
  60. # [01:03] <jarek> themiddleman_itv: you mean I should insert all my images directly into CSS with data-urls?
  61. # [01:03] <themiddleman_itv> jarek: if you only have a small small icons, sprites are the way to go otherwise
  62. # [01:04] <themiddleman_itv> or if it's a background gradient that's flickering you could use a css3 gradient
  63. # [01:04] <jarek> I was thinking about using data urls, but they make things more complicated
  64. # [01:04] <themiddleman_itv> yeah a bit
  65. # [01:04] <jarek> I would have to introduce some sort of CSS build script that would insert the images automatically
  66. # [01:05] <themiddleman_itv> those exist already… ive heard
  67. # [01:05] <jarek> also, the styles would not be applied until the whole stylesheet (with all images are loaded), right?
  68. # [01:05] <jarek> s/(with all images are loaded)/(with all images) are loaded
  69. # [01:05] <themiddleman_itv> right, but you probably shouldn't be doing images that are really big
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  143. # [03:02] <someprimetime> how can i maintain a page's state without refresh when coming back to the page like twitter does after loading a bunch of tweets then going to someone's profile and coming back to your tweets feed?
  144. # [03:03] <someprimetime> it seems like it's not making a server request
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  154. # [03:13] <bicranial> I'm having problems with video on Android - clips play fine locally but I get a 'Cannot play video' error message when accessing on a dev server - any ideas??
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  308. # [08:31] <mr_lou> <p>This is a paragraph</p>
  309. # [08:32] <mr_lou> <myOwnInventedTagName>This is my own invented tag name</myOwnInventedTagName>
  310. # [08:32] <mr_lou> Can I "invent" my own tag names without problems? Is it valid HTML5?
  311. # [08:32] <shwetank> no
  312. # [08:32] <mr_lou> mkay
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  314. # [08:33] <shwetank> maybe you can use aria roles and see if there is something supported in those usefull to you
  315. # [08:34] <mr_lou> well...... one thing is that it's not valid HTML5.... browsers render it fine though. Trying to figure out how important it is for this project to be HTML5 valid...
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  318. # [08:35] <shwetank> if you use your own made up tags, then yeah, it wont validate ... but why do you have such a need for a custom tag anyway? just curious...
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  320. # [08:38] <davidbanham> That's the kind of thing that data attributes were designed for, no?
  321. # [08:39] <mr_lou> I have some texts written in a custom BB format (you know, [b] and [i] stuff), which I'll probably need to convert to HTML. The BB texts are used in cellphone apps, and I'd like to make an HTML5 version too. But you're right of course. Translating a custom tag like [fat] into <fat> isn't much different than translating it into <p class="fat">
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  382. # [10:46] <D4> How would one create a "labyrinth" in HTML5 where there's an image that needs to be taken from A-B?
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  385. # [10:48] <D4> Something with canvas perhaps?
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  394. # [10:59] <boghog> are there known issues with Firefox' current implementation of requestAnimationFrame? with firefox 10 on linux, it seems to actually increase the jerkiness of my animation rather than smoothing things out like it does in Chrome (on Windows anyway, despite toggling all the webgl flags under about:flags with Chrome under linux, it refuses to work :s)
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  396. # [10:59] <boghog> or at least it increases jerkiness in cobination with webgl I should mention
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  427. # [12:06] <moo-_-> boghog: can you test with any other computer with different hw?
  428. # [12:06] <moo-_-> maybe it's an issue with a driver
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  657. # [17:35] <paul_irish> D4: there are maze solving algo's written in canvas
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  680. # [18:02] <jetienne> http://www.policyalmanac.org/games/aStarTutorial.htm D4 a* is one
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  755. # [19:13] <paul_irish> chrome devtools: checkboxes to the left, singleclick edit. emulate touch events, color picker.
  756. # [19:14] <paul_irish> now u have
  757. # [19:14] <ryan_tait> groovy
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  830. # [20:44] <mr_lou> When creating a website for an Android (or iPhone) device, what are the tricks for getting and setting the width of the device/page? Any clever way I can e.g. decide that my page must be only 360 pixels wide, and then have my Android phone automatically zoom so that the page fills the display width?
  831. # [20:46] <mantas322> mr_lou
  832. # [20:46] <mantas322> I recommend using a technology like sencha touch
  833. # [20:46] <miketaylr> <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width">
  834. # [20:46] <miketaylr> um wat
  835. # [20:46] <nimbu> hahah
  836. # [20:46] <miketaylr> mantas322: that's overkill
  837. # [20:46] <mantas322> for a truely mobile experience across a variety of devices
  838. # [20:46] <nimbu> orly
  839. # [20:47] <miketaylr> mr_lou: <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width"> will do what you want
  840. # [20:47] <mr_lou> miketaylr, Thanks. Will try. :-)
  841. # [20:48] <miketaylr> mr_lou: this article covers a lot of the other stuff you can do w/ viewport, http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/an-introduction-to-meta-viewport-and-viewport/
  842. # [20:48] <miketaylr> which will work in Android and iPhone as well
  843. # [20:48] <miketaylr> (the <meta> bits, that is)
  844. # [20:49] <mr_lou> Neat, thanks. :-)
  845. # [20:52] <tw2113> good day miketaylr
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  848. # [20:53] <miketaylr> sup tw2113
  849. # [20:54] <tw2113> not much
  850. # [20:54] <tw2113> debating what to do first today...jquery plugin work or paid work
  851. # [20:55] <paul_irish> write a jquery plugin to help with paid work?
  852. # [20:55] <tw2113> not sure twitter plugins do that well :)
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  854. # [20:56] <tw2113> i do know i'll need to figure out how to secure it due to jsonp though
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  868. # [21:07] <tertl4> how do I do html5 in Visual Studio?
  869. # [21:07] <mantas322> good question
  870. # [21:07] <mantas322> using javascript
  871. # [21:08] <tertl4> ok
  872. # [21:09] <tertl4> where should I start?
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  875. # [21:10] <mantas322> your just looking to get an overview of how locacl storage works?
  876. # [21:10] <mantas322> start by getting a html5 capable browser
  877. # [21:10] <mantas322> then google "html5 localStorage" and copy and paste the javascript intop your own page
  878. # [21:10] <mantas322> use google chrome's developer tools to check on the local stoage
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  889. # [21:18] <nimbu> o dear lord.
  890. # [21:18] <mantas322> ?
  891. # [21:18] <nimbu> copy/paste javascript?
  892. # [21:19] <mantas322> yeah from the specific example returned by google for "read/write to local storage"
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  894. # [21:19] <mantas322> if (typeof(localStorage) == 'undefined' ) { alert('Your browser does not support HTML5 localStorage. Try upgrading.'); } else { try { localStorage.setItem("herp", "derp.");;
  895. # [21:19] <nimbu> ?g html5 localStorage
  896. # [21:19] <bot-t> nimbu, Web Storage - http://dev.w3.org/html5/webstorage/
  897. # [21:20] <tw2113> i think nimbu is saying don't just copy/paste random js stuff
  898. # [21:20] <mantas322> hi nimbu, nice to meet u
  899. # [21:20] <tw2113> make sure it's from a reputable source and isn't malicious
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  901. # [21:20] <mantas322> im going to be hanging around here probably for the next week and a half
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  934. # [21:45] <moo-_-> http://mlkshk.com/r/CQG0
  935. # [21:46] <mantas322> no.
  936. # [21:47] <mantas322> get back to work with the rest of your flink
  937. # [21:47] <mantas322> thanks for the oppertunity to use the word "flink"
  938. # [21:48] <mantas322> moo-_-
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