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  7. # [00:05] <Jon47> moo-_- i haven't done anything like that personally but there's a list of Web Storage polyfills on this page: https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr/wiki/HTML5-Cross-browser-Polyfills
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  13. # [00:12] <moo-_-> Jon47: found one good one
  14. # [00:13] <moo-_-> Jon47: https://twitter.com/#!/moo9000/status/170271227619983361
  15. # [00:13] <socialhapy> ★ Tweet from moo9000: store.js localStorage polyfill w/ IE6 and IE7 userData fallback #html5 #web #dev #javascript https://t.co/F4uuMDW7 ★ http://bit.ly/zop13o
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  159. # [04:22] <kb9agt> hey all i just need a little inspiration to design a single page web app with css, javascript, and an image or two.
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  161. # [04:23] <rossdm> you should design a single page web app, maybe with some css, javascript, and an image or two
  162. # [04:25] <kb9agt> yes hello. i'm just tired and don't have any ideas is all. I can do it myself yes but lacking any motivation right now.
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  164. # [04:27] <rossdm> what do you want to make it about?
  165. # [04:27] <kb9agt> that's where i'm stuck right now.
  166. # [04:28] <rossdm> make it a daily news summary of the top trending story on Twitter
  167. # [04:28] <kb9agt> about something.
  168. # [04:28] <kb9agt> k that's a good one.
  169. # [04:28] <rossdm> dunno if you could get away with doing that with purely Javascript APIs or not
  170. # [04:29] <kb9agt> something about something else on the web.
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  172. # [04:29] <kb9agt> it doesn't have to be fancy just use the dom somehow.
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  174. # [04:31] <rossdm> that's probably too involved then...maybe a personal site if you don't have one yet
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  176. # [04:31] <kb9agt> i'm thinking of making it so when you click on the image it will do something and not let you just copy it or download it.
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  180. # [04:33] <kb9agt> thanks i'll go look around for one of my images first.
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  184. # [04:36] <kb9agt> by the way it for this class http://www.rubylearning.org
  185. # [04:37] <kb9agt> bye
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  225. # [05:58] <paul_irish> http://mothereffinganimatedgif.com/
  226. # [05:58] <paul_irish> Tech: HTML5 drag n drop, FileReader, a[download], GIF encoding on the client, BlobBuilder, postMessage, <input type=range>, appcache, transforms, etc.
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  235. # [06:13] <techrush> hi
  236. # [06:15] <tw2113> http://imgur.com/VmXVz
  237. # [06:15] <tw2113> it's room related
  238. # [06:16] <paul_irish> tw2113: did you see did you see
  239. # [06:16] <techrush> cool gif generator paul_irish
  240. # [06:16] <paul_irish> THANKS
  241. # [06:16] <paul_irish> i didnt do much
  242. # [06:16] <tw2113> i saw the posts but hadn't clicked yet
  243. # [06:16] * sylphaenos` is now known as sylphaenos
  244. # [06:16] <paul_irish> CLICK ALREADY
  245. # [06:17] <paul_irish> and bring images
  246. # [06:17] <tw2113> clicking and opening nautilus
  247. # [06:17] <paul_irish> works great with a bunch of Photo Booth pics
  248. # [06:17] <paul_irish> just resize them down a few notches
  249. # [06:18] <techrush> i could see the memegenerator.net kiddies liking something like this
  250. # [06:18] <techrush> to whip up quick and dirty animated meme goodness
  251. # [06:18] <techrush> the internet should be greatful
  252. # [06:20] <tw2113> just what we need, animated gifs
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  254. # [06:31] <tw2113> we need cat pictures for this
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  258. # [06:44] <paul_irish> ryanseddon: bgrins wrote the colorpicker patch for chromedevtools that just landed
  259. # [06:44] <ryanseddon> oh nice
  260. # [06:46] <ryanseddon> just landed in canary?
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  262. # [06:51] <paul_irish> ryanseddon: yes
  263. # [06:52] * ryanseddon playing with it now
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  271. # [07:10] <paul_irish> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=1eb2cb
  272. # [07:10] <paul_irish> browser tools questions welcome
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  481. # [14:36] <Armen_> goodmorning
  482. # [14:37] <ryan_tait> morning
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  484. # [14:37] <Jesterous> Morning! (afternoon in't UK!)
  485. # [14:38] <Armen_> bollocks!
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  490. # [14:40] <Jesterous> That would be England... I'm in Och Aye the Noo country! :P
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  501. # [14:58] <omabena> hello since, <time> it's not widely supported, what would be the right tag for datetime fields? (the context is "updated on" something like it)
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  505. # [14:59] <mantas322> morning
  506. # [15:02] <Jesterous> A question about <time> seems quite appropriate for all the 'good mornings' goin on just now! :P
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  509. # [15:04] <Velmont> omabena: well, <time>... It doesn't have to be supported for you to use it.
  510. # [15:04] <Velmont> omabena: Not like being supported renders it much different anyway.
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  512. # [15:08] <omabena> Velmont, how different would be from using a div?, if it's going to works just like it
  513. # [15:09] <Velmont> omabena: Yes, exactly. It'll work the same as div. So no reason not to use it. -- It will be meaningful later.
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  519. # [15:12] <mathi> hi
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  521. # [15:14] <Jesterous> I've used <time> with no problems
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  526. # [15:15] <omabena> for an appropriate semantic?
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  533. # [15:21] <Velmont> I'm using it on a news paper for published time.
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  535. # [15:22] <omabena> alright, well I'll just use it then :), thanks ppl
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  541. # [15:30] <Jesterous> omabena: Yeah
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  561. # [16:00] <MichaelBehan> paul_irish, or anyone: Do you know of any implementations of URI templating (draft-gregorio-uritemplate-04) ?
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  570. # [16:04] <mantas322> hey guys I have a noobie html5 quesiton
  571. # [16:04] <mantas322> I save a bunch of crap to local storage in 1.html
  572. # [16:04] <mantas322> can I read its content from 2.html?
  573. # [16:04] <mantas322> not sure if that makes sense
  574. # [16:05] <Michael> it's persistent
  575. # [16:05] <mantas322> then how come
  576. # [16:05] <mantas322> in google chrome's Dev tools im looking at where the locStorage content is
  577. # [16:06] <mantas322> and it dissappears
  578. # [16:06] <mantas322> when I go to 2.html
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  580. # [16:08] <mantas322> ah, its all there
  581. # [16:08] <mantas322> thanks for the reassurance Michael
  582. # [16:08] <Michael> np
  583. # [16:09] <mantas322> im new to comet style programming
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  633. # [17:05] <rroonnaann> hi
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  635. # [17:07] <rroonnaann> how to write several svg within 1 page
  636. # [17:08] <rroonnaann> There are errors when validating the page with validator.w3.org since some id appear more than once
  637. # [17:09] * ericduran|brb is now known as ericduran
  638. # [17:09] <rroonnaann> the SVG code is embeded in the HTML
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  651. # [17:17] <m00bles> rroonnaann are you using the html5 "doctype"?
  652. # [17:17] * m00bles is now known as Pomax
  653. # [17:17] <rroonnaann> this: <!doctype html>?
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  655. # [17:18] <Pomax> yeah
  656. # [17:18] <Pomax> and validating it as html5, not html4/xhtml?
  657. # [17:19] <rroonnaann> using the same id more than once is wrong with html5 and html4 xhtml
  658. # [17:19] <Pomax> using the same id more than once is using ids wrong
  659. # [17:19] <rroonnaann> yes i'm validating with html5
  660. # [17:19] <Pomax> and id is a unique element identifier.
  661. # [17:19] <Pomax> *an
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  664. # [17:20] <rroonnaann> I know
  665. # [17:20] <Pomax> but as long as you use html5 markup and definition, putting multiple SVG elements on the page should not be a problem
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  668. # [17:21] <rroonnaann> but it's dynamic svg I can't edit the ids
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  670. # [17:22] <Pomax> if it's dynamic SVG, you should be able to control the naming?
  671. # [17:22] <rroonnaann> no, that's the problem
  672. # [17:22] <Pomax> how is it generated?
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  674. # [17:22] <rroonnaann> I'm using Cairo through R
  675. # [17:23] <rroonnaann> and I don't want to keep any data on the server
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  677. # [17:23] <rroonnaann> so the SVG is written in the html
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  679. # [17:24] <Pomax> okay, but if you are the one who set it all up, why is it add ids at all?
  680. # [17:24] <Pomax> *adding
  681. # [17:25] <Pomax> you could just give them all a class="dynamicSVG" instead or something
  682. # [17:25] <rroonnaann> because cairo create SVG with id
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  684. # [17:26] <Pomax> doesn't it generate a string, though?
  685. # [17:27] <Pomax> can't you run a regexp replace for id=['"]\w[\d\w]+['"] -> "" before injecting it in the file?
  686. # [17:27] <rroonnaann> yes, it can be viewed as a string
  687. # [17:27] <Pomax> (I'm looking at what http://cairographics.org/manual/cairo-SVG-Surfaces.html claims atm)
  688. # [17:28] <rroonnaann> so removing every id will solve the problem?
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  690. # [17:29] <Pomax> it will definitely remove the id-collision problem
  691. # [17:29] <rroonnaann> can an id start with a number?
  692. # [17:29] <Pomax> and you'll stil be able to get your set of SVG elements with a CSS selector like document.querySelectorAll('svg') or jQuery et al. equivalent
  693. # [17:29] <Pomax> no it cannot
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  695. # [17:30] <Pomax> ID and NAME tokens must begin with a letter ([A-Za-z]) and may be followed by any number of letters, digits ([0-9]), hyphens ("-"), underscores ("_"), colons (":"), and periods (".").
  696. # [17:31] <rroonnaann> ok, i wasn't sure
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  701. # [17:38] <JonathanNeal> hiya
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  703. # [17:39] <rroonnaann> Pomax: This document was successfully checked as HTML5!
  704. # [17:39] <Pomax> win =D
  705. # [17:40] <Pomax> hey JonathanNeal
  706. # [17:40] <rroonnaann> I'm not sure the solution is very reproducible though
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  708. # [17:41] <Pomax> why not? If Cairo exports elements with an id, stripping the id will always work
  709. # [17:41] <rroonnaann> I didn't strip the ids
  710. # [17:42] <rroonnaann> I replace id and references to the ids
  711. # [17:42] <Pomax> with...?
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  713. # [17:42] <rroonnaann> by adding a letter at the begining of the id
  714. # [17:42] <Pomax> why? does it generate numerical ids?
  715. # [17:43] <rroonnaann> no
  716. # [17:43] <Pomax> as a robust solution, you'd probably be better off replacing the entire id with "svg<num>" where <num> corresponds to the howmanieth element you're placing on the page in your code.
  717. # [17:43] <Pomax> although that said: do you need the ids?
  718. # [17:44] <Pomax> if not, there is literally no reason to keep them.
  719. # [17:44] <rroonnaann> that's what I did
  720. # [17:45] <JonathanNeal> hey Pomax
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  738. # [18:07] <rroonnaann> do you know a good (and available) LaTeX to MathML converter?
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  740. # [18:10] <Pomax> MathJax
  741. # [18:10] <Pomax> don't bother with MathML, just put the LaTeX code in there, and make it render with CSS instead.
  742. # [18:10] <Pomax> I use it prolifically on my Bezier Curve primer (http://processingjs.nihongoresources.com/bezierinfo)
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  746. # [18:16] <Pomax> a link to http://www.mathjax.org/ would also have been useful
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  748. # [18:17] <rroonnaann> thank you
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  805. # [19:29] <JonathanNeal> hi
  806. # [19:29] <johnkpaul> hi
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  810. # [19:33] <JonathanNeal> hey hey
  811. # [19:33] <bot-t> (3 secs ago) <gf3> tell JonathanNeal A developer says what?
  812. # [19:36] <Pomax> -_-
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  926. # [22:16] <skyl> curious as to why 1/2 videos play in chrome; 2/2 in safari http://jsfiddle.net/gbWGm/
  927. # [22:17] <skyl> can't seem to find a difference in the headers or anything ...
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  931. # [22:21] <miketaylr> just serve everything as .webm ;)
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  934. # [22:23] <skyl> yeah, kinda' on the outside looking in atm tho :D
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  1006. # Session Close: Sat Feb 18 00:00:00 2012

The end :)