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  7. # [00:09] <tertl4> i have a newbish question
  8. # [00:09] <tertl4> how do I add a photo to an html5 canvas?
  9. # [00:10] <tertl4> i've found the code but the page is not rendering my photo
  10. # [00:10] <tertl4> i think I am not sending the correct path or something
  11. # [00:10] <tertl4> using visual studio
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  70. # [01:06] <Salvager> according to W3C, this is the HTML5 definition for Foreign elements: Elements from the MathML namespace and the SVG namespace. Now is this just examples of foreign elements or is it the only foreign elements that exists?
  71. # [01:07] <shepazu> Salvager: foreign elements are simply elements in another namespace, of which there are hundreds…. SVG and MathML are the only two that are given explicit special tratment in HTML5
  72. # [01:08] <Salvager> ok ty thanks :)
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  74. # [01:09] <shepazu> of course, in SVG content, HTML is the foreign element
  75. # [01:10] <Salvager> yeah i understand it now, just wasnt sure if MathML and SVG was the ONLY forerign elements allowed in HTML5
  76. # [01:10] <Salvager> but i get it now :)
  77. # [01:12] <shepazu> Salvager: they are the only ones which are explicitly parsed and rendered according to their own rules by standard HTML5 browsers
  78. # [01:12] <shepazu> you could put your own XML or HTML-like markup in there, but it would be treated as bad HTML
  79. # [01:12] <shepazu> more or less
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  81. # [01:13] <Salvager> so THEY ARE the only allowed foreign elements if you want to create valid HTML5 ?
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  134. # [03:00] <smplstk> mdn map
  135. # [03:00] <caniuse> smplstk: Array map - Mozilla Developer Network - https://developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array/map
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  137. # [03:03] <vladikoff> mdn time
  138. # [03:03] <caniuse> vladikoff: HTML/Element/time - Mozilla Developer Network - https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/time
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  140. # [03:07] <tertl4> anyone around?
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  143. # [03:16] <vladikoff> tertl4, what's up
  144. # [03:16] <tertl4> im trying to draw a image.jpg on the canvas
  145. # [03:17] <tertl4> but when I load the site, the image has that symbol thay symbol displayed
  146. # [03:17] <tertl4> what am I doing wrong?
  147. # [03:17] <vladikoff> tertl4, what symbol
  148. # [03:18] <tertl4> the one of a page with little shapes on it
  149. # [03:18] <tertl4> i think it means that the page knows its picture, but it cant dispay it?
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  154. # [03:21] <vladikoff> tertl4, could you please paste your code at http://jsfiddle.net , let's see if we can troubleshoot it
  155. # [03:23] <vladikoff> tertl4, also see:
  156. # [03:23] <vladikoff> mdn using images
  157. # [03:23] <caniuse> vladikoff: Canvas tutorial Using images - Mozilla Developer Network - https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Canvas_tutorial/Using_images
  158. # [03:24] <tertl4> that's what I used
  159. # [03:24] <tertl4> http://jsfiddle.net/
  160. # [03:25] <vladikoff> tertl4, you need to hit the "save" button and copy that url :)
  161. # [03:25] <tertl4> oops
  162. # [03:25] <tertl4> http://jsfiddle.net/QqtYa/
  163. # [03:26] <tertl4> i was learning my development so nicely until this problem showed itself
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  166. # [03:32] <vladikoff> tertl4, yea hold on
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  168. # [03:32] <tertl4> i can tell when I have the path right because when I dont, the symbol doesn't show
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  170. # [03:35] <tertl4> at least that's how I interprestted it
  171. # [03:36] <vladikoff> tertl4, take a look at this quick example: http://jsfiddle.net/QqtYa/1/
  172. # [03:39] <tertl4> vladikoff same output with that
  173. # [03:41] <vladikoff> tertl4, sorry, hit "run"
  174. # [03:42] <tertl4> yes
  175. # [03:42] <tertl4> i see that it displays the image
  176. # [03:42] <vladikoff> tertl4, on a <canvas> :)
  177. # [03:42] <tertl4> oh yes :)
  178. # [03:43] <tertl4> but on my site, it is not working?
  179. # [03:43] <tertl4> what could I be doing wrong?
  180. # [03:43] <vladikoff> tertl4, use the code in that example to make it work on your site
  181. # [03:44] <tertl4> http://jsfiddle.net/QqtYa/2/
  182. # [03:44] <vladikoff> tertl4, you might need to git the "update" button
  183. # [03:46] <tertl4> what will that do?
  184. # [03:48] <vladikoff> tertl4, this http://jsfiddle.net/QqtYa/2/ still looks like the old example I linked, you need to hit "update"
  185. # [03:48] <tertl4> sorry, i thought u meant "git" :\
  186. # [03:49] <tertl4> http://jsfiddle.net/QqtYa/3/
  187. # [03:49] <tertl4> all I did was insert my path which wouldnt load on there anyways
  188. # [03:50] <tertl4> but the output is the same as what I get when I run my page
  189. # [03:52] <tertl4> vladikoff ok I am getting the image now
  190. # [03:52] <tertl4> but it looks as if the image is sitting above the canvas
  191. # [03:53] <vladikoff> tertl4, do you get 2 images though?
  192. # [03:54] <tertl4> i get one image of my image.jpg and then I get an empty canvas below
  193. # [03:54] <tertl4> my problem for the image was the path i was using
  194. # [03:54] <tertl4> now to get the image in the canvas
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  196. # [03:56] <vladikoff> tertl4, seems like a lot of your problems come from working with local images, read this: http://www.devirtuoso.com/2011/09/working-with-images-and-html5-canvas-locally/ it will explain what I mean
  197. # [03:57] <tertl4> vladikoff i inserted an image from a website and it also is not inside the canvas?
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  199. # [04:01] <vladikoff> tertl4, If the image is hosted on a different domain than the script, you can’t access image data without causing a security exception. So, "getImageData" won't work in your script
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  208. # [04:08] <tertl4> oh
  209. # [04:08] <tertl4> i think I understand
  210. # [04:08] <tertl4> I tried the example on that site and it worked
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  213. # [04:09] <vladikoff> tertl4, woot! :)
  214. # [04:09] <tertl4> but I can no longer see the canvas border
  215. # [04:10] <tertl4> :)
  216. # [04:10] <vladikoff> tertl4, probably some css stuff :P
  217. # [04:10] <tertl4> should the image be in the lower left corner of the canvas?
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  221. # [04:16] <tertl4> vladikoff thanks for your help
  222. # [04:17] <tertl4> you helped me solve my problem
  223. # [04:17] <tertl4> now is time for me to go learn some more about web dev
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  225. # [04:23] <tertl4> i guess there isn't a lot of time I would need to use local or cross domain images in a canvas
  226. # [04:23] <tertl4> but how would I make my site to host this image as well?
  227. # [04:23] <tertl4> put it in a small db?
  228. # [04:23] <vladikoff> tertl4, or host the images :D
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  233. # [04:33] <tertl4> vladikoff how would I do that?
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  308. # [08:08] <csprite> seems like javascript is the only practical way to write crossplatform games
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  312. # [08:27] <OzDave_imac> javb the hut script
  313. # [08:27] <OzDave_imac> jaba*
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  325. # [08:51] <Randomdude> re
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  329. # [08:53] <Randomdude> what are the good tutorial websites to learn html5 and css3 other than google search listed ones?
  330. # [08:54] <Randomdude> the google search list top ones are fairly features intro
  331. # [08:54] <Randomdude> and some are the same articles posted on different sites
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  361. # [10:13] <JonathanNeal> hey i have an idea
  362. # [10:14] <JonathanNeal> paul_irish: you up? i see you posting on git I think.
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  365. # [10:22] <JonathanNeal> Indeed, it's nighttime for even the internet.
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  368. # [10:39] <squeakytoy> anyone here with practical experience with jwebsocket?
  369. # [10:40] <squeakytoy> urgh, i mean websockets
  370. # [10:40] <squeakytoy> anyone here with practical experience with websockets?* :-)
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  434. # [12:36] <Wiz_KeeD> when doing multiple input fields of type "number" in the mobile browser the keyboard has a "next" button to jump to the next field, is there a way i can configure that order or is it simply just the order of the elements in the DOM?
  435. # [12:36] <Ms2ger> tabindex, maybe?
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  583. # [17:25] <BenjaminGMorgan> is html5shiv or modernizr better?
  584. # [17:26] <peol> caniuse border-radius
  585. # [17:26] <caniuse> peol: You can use CSS3 Border-radius (rounded corners) with Internet Explorer 9, Firefox 3, Chrome 4, Safari 3.1, Opera 10.5, iOS Safari 3.2, and Opera Mobile 11.
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  587. # [17:27] <BenjaminGMorgan> i am looking at ie 6, 7 ,8 and i was wondering which was faster/or better, html5shiv or modernizr
  588. # [17:27] <Jon47> html5shiv is contained within modernizr basically
  589. # [17:27] <chee> BenjaminGMorgan: they are for different things. that said, modernizr *does* do the same job as html5shiv to begin with
  590. # [17:27] <Jon47> if you only want the html5 elements, shiv is smaller
  591. # [17:27] <peol> divya: It would be useful if it showed when I could use it prefixless (if possible), or at least a link to more info :)
  592. # [17:28] <chee> BenjaminGMorgan: but modernizr is for feature detection, rather than simply making the html5 elements avaiable under oldie
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  594. # [17:28] <BenjaminGMorgan> what features?
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  596. # [17:28] <BenjaminGMorgan> okay, i hve been using css3pie for the css border radius
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  598. # [17:29] <chee> BenjaminGMorgan: for checking the availability of capabilities for new html5y type things
  599. # [17:29] <BenjaminGMorgan> oh okay
  600. # [17:29] <BenjaminGMorgan> thanks
  601. # [17:29] <chee> and also so you can load a polyfill only under the condition that the browser doesn't natively support it
  602. # [17:30] <divya> peol: yeah i think if it is queried only one feature it should link to caniuse
  603. # [17:30] <chee> BenjaminGMorgan: http://www.modernizr.com/docs/
  604. # [17:30] <divya> otherwise it should show no link or possibly link to each feature with links?
  605. # [17:30] <divya> smplstk: ^
  606. # [17:30] <peol> caniuse border-radius box-shadow
  607. # [17:30] <caniuse> peol: You can use CSS3 Border-radius (rounded corners), and CSS3 Box-shadow with Internet Explorer 9, Firefox 3.5, Chrome 4, Safari 3.1, Opera 10.5, iOS Safari 3.2, and Opera Mobile 11.
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  611. # [17:31] <peol> yeah, seperate links after each would be cool
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  637. # [18:45] <jarek> is it safe to write code like this:
  638. # [18:45] <jarek> window.addEventListener 'DOMContentLoaded', => window.addEventListener 'load', => console.log('all loaded')
  639. # [18:45] <jarek> if I understand the docs correctly, 'load' event is always fired after 'DOMContentLoaded' event
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  644. # [18:48] <jarek__> is it possible that it will be fired so fast after DOMContentLoaded that the second eventListener won't catch it?
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  646. # [18:49] <jarek__> the same code in JS: https://gist.github.com/1917905
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  653. # [18:59] <m00bles> is this supposed to happen in Chrome? if I add a canvas with id "abcdefg", suddenly window.abcdefg exists
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  656. # [19:00] <jarek__> Pomax: yup, it's one of the HTML5 'features'
  657. # [19:00] <Pomax> that's fucked up
  658. # [19:01] <Pomax> if I add a canvas with id="visualisation", any JS code that creates an object "visualistaion" and tests for it with if(!visualisation) will fail O_o
  659. # [19:01] <Pomax> because DOM element inject global variables? O_o
  660. # [19:01] <Pomax> *elements
  661. # [19:02] <Pomax> why does it inject to window, rather than document?
  662. # [19:02] <jarek__> Pomax: if I recall correctly there was some logic behind it that would prevent clashes with JS variables
  663. # [19:02] <Pomax> if there was: it failed
  664. # [19:02] <Pomax> it's clashing like a motherfucker
  665. # [19:02] <jarek__> I'm using a lot of IDs in my markup, but I never had issues with it
  666. # [19:02] <Pomax> firefox does not allow it to clash, chrome does
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  668. # [19:05] <Pomax> happen to remember what this feature is called so I can file a bug for it?
  669. # [19:05] <jarek__> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11960
  670. # [19:05] <jarek__> epic
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  672. # [19:06] <Pomax> nice...
  673. # [19:07] <jarek__> I wonder if it's still in the HTML5 spec
  674. # [19:07] <Pomax> I bloody well hope not, this is insane
  675. # [19:07] <Pomax> we had document context for a reason.
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  677. # [19:10] <jarek__> not sure but it looks like it's still in the spec
  678. # [19:10] <jarek__> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#named-access-on-the-window-object
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  680. # [19:14] <Pomax> jesus. This is such a bad idea.
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  685. # [19:17] <Pomax> there.
  686. # [19:17] <Pomax> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16124
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  692. # [19:20] <illuminatedwax> Hi, I'm trying to play an audio object using html5. my javascript code is simply a = new Audio("music/song.wav"); a.play(); but it doesn't work at all in Chrome. it works fine in Firefox; what do I have to do differently in Chrome to get it to work?
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  694. # [19:26] <moo-_-> illuminatedwax: use a supported audio format
  695. # [19:27] <illuminatedwax> moo-_-, is wav not supported??
  696. # [19:27] <moo-_-> illuminatedwax: no
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  698. # [19:28] <moo-_-> illuminatedwax: chrome supports at least aac and vorbis afaik
  699. # [19:28] <illuminatedwax> what files are supported on chrome? it doesnt do ogg or mp3
  700. # [19:28] <moo-_-> ogg vorbis is supported
  701. # [19:28] <moo-_-> mp3 is supported
  702. # [19:28] <illuminatedwax> then something else is wrong because i've tried both those
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  704. # [19:28] <moo-_-> hmm
  705. # [19:28] <moo-_-> illuminatedwax: did you check web developer console for error messages?
  706. # [19:28] <illuminatedwax> test.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~112000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I
  707. # [19:29] <illuminatedwax> yes, also typing in a new audio object in the developer console doesnt work either
  708. # [19:30] <illuminatedwax> g = new Audio("music/test.ogg"); g.play(); does nothing -- i checked my sound by playing a YouTube video
  709. # [19:30] <illuminatedwax> and g.currentTime is 0
  710. # [19:31] <moo-_-> illuminatedwax: maybe your relative URL is wrong
  711. # [19:31] <divya> just a headsup i am looking to release http://h5bp.github.com/caniuse/ all feedback welcome!
  712. # [19:31] <moo-_-> it definitely works
  713. # [19:31] <illuminatedwax> moo-_-, I thought about that but it doesn't show me the red X in web dev console
  714. # [19:32] <illuminatedwax> ok restarting chrome did it
  715. # [19:32] <illuminatedwax> i dont know *what* was messed up
  716. # [19:32] <illuminatedwax> thanks for the help
  717. # [19:33] <moo-_-> illuminatedwax: np
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  720. # [19:38] <jarek__> Chrome can play wavs, but it's buggy
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  722. # [19:38] <moo-_-> wav is also just a container
  723. # [19:38] <moo-_-> it can contain different encodings
  724. # [19:38] <moo-_-> I don't recommend trying to push your limits with it :I
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  726. # [19:39] <illuminatedwax> it was RIFF Microsoft PCM -- i was using it just because i assumed that was universal
  727. # [19:39] <illuminatedwax> guess not!
  728. # [19:40] <moo-_-> illuminatedwax: generally, there is no one sound format every browser plays
  729. # [19:40] <moo-_-> your best bet is
  730. # [19:40] <moo-_-> AAC for Safari/Microsoft
  731. # [19:40] <moo-_-> OGG for others
  732. # [19:41] <illuminatedwax> good because wavs are huge
  733. # [19:41] <illuminatedwax> thanks for the tip
  734. # [19:41] <moo-_-> https://github.com/miohtama/Krusovice/blob/master/src/music.js#L175
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  739. # [19:47] <illuminatedwax> oh one more question -- how universal is the <source> tag for audio sources
  740. # [19:47] <Ms2ger> As universal as audio itself
  741. # [19:47] <jarek__> > audio.canPlayType('audio/ogg; codecs="vorbis"')
  742. # [19:48] <jarek__> returns "probably" :D
  743. # [19:48] <illuminatedwax> awesome -- i'll just put in multiple sources
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  781. # [20:49] <smplstk> caniuse canvas sockets border-radius
  782. # [20:49] <caniuse> smplstk: You can use Canvas (basic support), Web Sockets, and CSS3 Border-radius (rounded corners) with Firefox 6, and Chrome 14. http://caniuse.com/#search=canvas http://caniuse.com/#search=websockets http://caniuse.com/#search=border-radius
  783. # [20:49] <smplstk> ^^ divya
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  789. # [21:04] <divya> woo woo thnx smplstk
  790. # [21:04] <divya> peol: ^&
  791. # [21:05] <peol> smplstk, divya: a+, great!
  792. # [21:05] <m0> Hello
  793. # [21:06] <paul_irish> e.g. opera and firefox you can disable all sorts of features in browser config
  794. # [21:06] <m0> Does anyone know how to free up resources on images? My data urls are eating a lot of memory because I am loading 100 images at once from a canvas
  795. # [21:06] <divya> so can you in chrome
  796. # [21:06] <paul_irish> right
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  798. # [21:06] <divya> so the burden of proof is on modernizr is my view
  799. # [21:06] <divya> not on the developer
  800. # [21:06] <divya> the developer needs to get the best fail-safe experience
  801. # [21:06] <divya> either it should be a log entry
  802. # [21:07] <divya> or just fail and pass the info to api
  803. # [21:07] <paul_irish> i'm okay with console.warn()
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  805. # [21:07] <paul_irish> alert() is a little much
  806. # [21:07] <m0> I am building a Chrome extension, where I have a gallery that goes through a bunch of data urls (from Canvas) so the user can preview them in a larger resolution. The more images the user previews, the more Chrome keeps it in cache causing the memory for that tab to increase. From 30MB to 300MB
  807. # [21:07] <divya> i still think we should do console.warn and still pass through to api
  808. # [21:07] <paul_irish> ok
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  810. # [21:12] <paul_irish> divya: `Modernizr.browserPrompt()` => `Modernizr.html5please()`
  811. # [21:13] <divya> yeah sounds good.
  812. # [21:13] <paul_irish> also changed the API https://gist.github.com/1896401
  813. # [21:13] <paul_irish> so callback is part of original options object and there's a `yep` callback
  814. # [21:14] <paul_irish> cleaner.
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  816. # [21:14] <divya> lemme know when i should change the repo name
  817. # [21:14] <divya> api.html5please?
  818. # [21:14] <paul_irish> now is good for me
  819. # [21:15] <paul_irish> yeah
  820. # [21:15] <divya> html5please-api?
  821. # [21:15] <paul_irish> yes latter
  822. # [21:16] <divya> renamed
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  825. # [21:18] <Clex> Hi. Does anyone know what's wrong here : http://jsfiddle.net/T6u2Q/ ?
  826. # [21:18] <Clex> I've got this line out of nowhere.
  827. # [21:19] <m0> Clex: where are you closing the path? context.closePath()
  828. # [21:19] <paul_irish> git remote set-url !
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  830. # [21:20] <m0> hey paul!
  831. # [21:20] <m0> <- Mohamed
  832. # [21:21] <luncht1me> Clex
  833. # [21:21] <luncht1me> you've got two shapes on the same canvas "context"
  834. # [21:22] <luncht1me> so they're being bridged together in your js
  835. # [21:22] <Clex> Yeah m0 is right about that closePath() thing.
  836. # [21:22] <luncht1me> :)
  837. # [21:24] <Clex> It's supposed to be used only with beginPath() I guess.
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  841. # [21:26] <Clex> This fix does not seem to work : http://jsfiddle.net/T6u2Q/3/
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  847. # [21:37] <Clex> There is no closePath() on this example : http://www.html5canvastutorials.com/tutorials/html5-canvas-rectangles/
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  850. # [21:39] <smplstk> Clex: http://jsfiddle.net/T6u2Q/4/
  851. # [21:39] <smplstk> pst ^^
  852. # [21:40] <Clex> Oh ok, thanks a lot smplstk.
  853. # [21:41] <smplstk> Clex: here's some fun I had with canvas the other day, using multiple objects: http://smplstk.ca/_/examples/canvas_jitter/
  854. # [21:41] <m0> Clex: yea, you wouldn't have to close path, but in your case your drawing at a diff location, so you can just call beginPath without closepath agian since it starts a new path(closing the previous)
  855. # [21:41] <m0> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Drawing_Graphics_with_Canvas#Using_Paths
  856. # [21:41] <Clex> Thanks guys.
  857. # [21:43] <m0> smplstk: have you ever dealt with many data urls generated from canvas?
  858. # [21:43] <smplstk> m0, naw
  859. # [21:43] <smplstk> m0: you should post some example code, it always helps when trying to get, well... help.
  860. # [21:44] <m0> smplstk: I am creating a gallery wehre the user can browser through many dataurls that they created by the canvas. The problem is that the more I load dataurls in an image tag, the more memory the browser consumes
  861. # [21:44] <m0> I was wonderinf if there was an efficient way optimizing that
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  863. # [21:45] <smplstk> m0: you probablly just have to set a hard limit.
  864. # [21:45] <m0> Each dataURI is a 1.5MB string generated from Canvas.
  865. # [21:45] <m0> How do I set a hardlimit, I have been reading the spec and found nothing
  866. # [21:46] * smplstk shrugs
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  868. # [21:46] <smplstk> again, I'd have to see some example code to lend a hand.
  869. # [21:46] <peterschmidler> How can I give a select box a custom font-face?
  870. # [21:47] <m0> I am just maintaining a single image element, but replacing its "src" attribute 20 times with a dataURI when the user presses next/previous, and that consumes 270MB of more memory causing everything to lag
  871. # [21:47] <m0> smplstk: https://github.com/mohamedmansour/my-hangouts-extension/blob/improveCaptureGallery/js/modules/capture_moments/capture_viewer_controller.js
  872. # [21:47] <m0> Line 66 is when I set the image
  873. # [21:48] <m0> findCapture goes from SQLite database and comes back with that image. The resources tab in Chrome, keeps that image even if I don't use it.
  874. # [21:49] <moo-_-> m0: are you sure garbage collector kicks in?
  875. # [21:49] <moo-_-> I don't know where you could find resources how Chrome reclaimns the emory
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  877. # [21:50] <m0> moo-_-: how would I find out? I was looking at the profiler, and the garbage collector runs for a very short time 1%
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  879. # [21:50] <moo-_-> m0: what happens if you recreate the image element instead of just replacing src?
  880. # [21:50] <moo-_-> m0: as I said, I don't know how debug chrome memory issues :(
  881. # [21:50] <m0> The tab gets really laggy and slow after I load 20+ previews
  882. # [21:51] <m0> I tried creating a new image element, and that didn't help at all.
  883. # [21:51] <m0> It kept the images in the resources tab in Chrome.
  884. # [21:52] <m0> If only I could show you guys what I mean
  885. # [21:52] <m0> Hmm I could do a YouTube live stream
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  889. # [21:55] <illuminatedwax> for audio, is there an event like MozAudioAvailable I can listen for that works cross-browser?
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  892. # [21:56] <peterschmidler> I used -moz-appearance: none for a select box but now I don't have an arrow anymore. Any clue how to give it an arrow back?
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  897. # [22:00] <m0> moo-_-: I created a YouTube live stream if you want to see what I mean :x
  898. # [22:00] <moo-_-> m0: no thank you, I cannot help you further but suggesting that you recreate the image element
  899. # [22:01] <moo-_-> m0: I suggest you seek help from chrome developers. They don't hang here and I don't know where they hang around.
  900. # [22:01] <moo-_-> or file a bug report
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  903. # [22:03] <m0> It must be a memory leak in Chrome
  904. # [22:04] <m0> I created a post in the mailing list, https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-html5/browse_thread/thread/0b0f062680e61e30# thanks for your help
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  906. # [22:07] <divya> paul_irish: are you working on modernizr plugin?
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  913. # [22:18] <drublic> divya: anything that I can help with for the api thingy?
  914. # [22:19] <divya> drublic: could you add back the plain URI thingie?
  915. # [22:19] <divya> never mind i think i should do it
  916. # [22:19] <divya> given i added it.
  917. # [22:19] <divya> otherwise i think we are pretty much done. paul_irish is supposed to work on the modernizr widget
  918. # [22:19] <divya> and I wanna write a blog post that would elaborate this better
  919. # [22:20] <drublic> is this an issue on gh?
  920. # [22:20] <divya> drublic: could you just verify if it works okay in all browsers?
  921. # [22:20] <divya> drublic: plain URI?
  922. # [22:20] <divya> no
  923. # [22:20] <drublic> yeha I'll to this
  924. # [22:20] <drublic> ill check the browsers
  925. # [22:21] <drublic> IE9 is enough, right?
  926. # [22:21] <Ms2ger> IE6? :)
  927. # [22:22] <drublic> Ms2ger: hehe… i wont look into it :)
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  936. # [22:29] <paul_irish> divya: yup doing the plugin
  937. # [22:29] <paul_irish> m0: hey man!
  938. # [22:29] <paul_irish> drublic: thx for joining us here!
  939. # [22:29] <m0> html5please looking good!
  940. # [22:29] <paul_irish> woo
  941. # [22:30] <drublic> paul_irish: its a pleasure
  942. # [22:30] <paul_irish> drublic: i was gonna suggest you should add yourself to the bottom and bump divya up to creator status
  943. # [22:30] <m0> Can a person like me help you guys in your projects :) I am getting bored creating extensions all day :x
  944. # [22:30] <paul_irish> we'll also need to link api.h5p to h5p.com and vice versa
  945. # [22:30] <paul_irish> m0: yeah the issue trackers are always the best place to get involved
  946. # [22:30] <paul_irish> that and here in #html5
  947. # [22:31] <paul_irish> the everything happens in those issue trackers
  948. # [22:31] <m0> Which projects, just h5p?
  949. # [22:31] <drublic> paul_irish: well yeah I did a little bit for the mobile thing. it's okay not to be on that list for the moment :)
  950. # [22:32] <drublic> but thanks for the offer… I think it's divya's decision
  951. # [22:33] <paul_irish> m0: certainly all www.github.com/h5bp projects
  952. # [22:35] <drublic> paul_irish: oh… btw. divya is on the creators list
  953. # [22:35] <paul_irish> i meant next to jon
  954. # [22:35] <paul_irish> she needs an upgrade
  955. # [22:35] <drublic> she is
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  958. # [22:35] <drublic> looks a bit bad on mobile atm
  959. # [22:35] <paul_irish> oh oh. i gotta update the server
  960. # [22:35] <drublic> i'll fix this
  961. # [22:37] <paul_irish> okay server pulling from new repo url. woo
  962. # [22:37] <paul_irish> https://gist.github.com/1896401#file_usage.js hows that API look
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  964. # [22:38] <paul_irish> cc drublic m0
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  966. # [22:42] <drublic> paul_irish: api looks good. don't know the modernizr api very good.
  967. # [22:42] <m0> paul_irish: you like the word "yep"
  968. # [22:42] <m0> :)
  969. # [22:42] <drublic> usage example is pretty clear
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  972. # [22:44] <drublic> paul_irish: callback is like "nope" and might be confusing with a general callback which is executed in true _and_ false case.
  973. # [22:44] <Salvager> how do you guys test cross browser compatibility?
  974. # [22:44] <drublic> maybe this is just for me
  975. # [22:44] <paul_irish> Salvager: browserstack
  976. # [22:45] <paul_irish> drublic: i agree with that much
  977. # [22:45] <drublic> paul_irish: you could call it a "nope" than
  978. # [22:45] <Salvager> cool ty, il check it out
  979. # [22:45] <paul_irish> only nope gets a data arg passed into it
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  981. # [22:46] <paul_irish> i gotta ask slex to make sure i can use yep & nope
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  983. # [22:46] <drublic> paul_irish: good idea
  984. # [22:46] <paul_irish> https://gist.github.com/1896401#file_usage.js
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  986. # [22:47] <paul_irish> SlexAxton: that is a modernizr plugin that calls our new http://api.html5please.com/
  987. # [22:47] <paul_irish> when the tests fail, we call the API and `callback` gets passed some json and some HTML
  988. # [22:47] <paul_irish> otherwise `yep` is immediately called.
  989. # [22:47] <paul_irish> callback is only called when the tests fail
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  991. # [22:47] <paul_irish> (one of them fails)
  992. # [22:47] <SlexAxton> probably shouldn't be called callback then
  993. # [22:47] <paul_irish> right
  994. # [22:47] <SlexAxton> but sounds good
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  996. # [22:47] <paul_irish> yep/nope cool?
  997. # [22:48] <paul_irish> semantically it matches
  998. # [22:48] <SlexAxton> go for it
  999. # [22:48] <SlexAxton> it's wtfpl
  1000. # [22:48] <SlexAxton> :d
  1001. # [22:48] <paul_irish> yeah totes.
  1002. # [22:48] <paul_irish> i think the semantics are clear and its not particularly confusing with .load()'s use
  1003. # [22:48] <SlexAxton> nah, that's different enough
  1004. # [22:48] <paul_irish> cool!
  1005. # [22:49] <paul_irish> thx Slexxy
  1006. # [22:49] <SlexAxton> ?superslexy
  1007. # [22:49] <bot-t> https://img.skitch.com/20120225-snh7ues8gs4pjsnet61gxgrpn.jpg
  1008. # [22:49] <paul_irish> :D :D :D
  1009. # [22:49] <drublic> :D
  1010. # [22:49] <paul_irish> drublic: thx for your help today! love it
  1011. # [22:50] <drublic> paul_irish: great project and working with you all!
  1012. # [22:51] <SlexAxton> \o/ \o/ \o/
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  1015. # [22:55] <drublic> divya: in #how-does-it-work, the "END" is it supposed to be there?
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  1017. # [22:55] <paul_irish> she's afk fwiw
  1018. # [22:56] <drublic> ah, k
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  1020. # [22:57] <divya> drublic: yeah i wanted to make it like a flowchart
  1021. # [22:58] <drublic> divya: ok. it's not pretty clear to me. but maybe that's just me
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  1023. # [22:58] <illuminatedwax> I'm in Chrome and i got it to play audio, but when it ends, the "ended" event doesn't fire -- addEventListener('ended', function() {console.log('foo');}, false); doesn't work
  1024. # [22:59] <divya> yeah i brogrammed my way in next to Jon neal
  1025. # [22:59] <divya> drublic: certainly add yourself if you can
  1026. # [22:59] <divya> while i can work on the uri thing
  1027. # [22:59] <drublic> I'll do so. thanks :)
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  1032. # [23:09] <drublic> paul_irish: gist looks great this way
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  1034. # [23:12] <divya> paul_irish: you should also update the api url there in that gist
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