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  18. # [00:33] <keepguessing> Any good video tutorials for html5. That i can take as a course and finish learning?
  19. # [00:34] <pitchfork> no
  20. # [00:34] <pitchfork> you learn, by doing.
  21. # [00:34] <pitchfork> period.
  22. # [00:35] <keepguessing> pitchfork Well yeah for anything doing is important but I like to be introduced to the concepts via a video tutrial. It takes lesser time to know what exists and can spend more time doing :)
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  24. # [00:36] <pitchfork> spend more time practicing english.
  25. # [00:36] <octayn> Read the specs. http://developers.whatwg.org/
  26. # [00:36] <keepguessing> pitchfork But learning only be done by doing. video tutorials is only something like a teacher.
  27. # [00:37] <pitchfork> eng-lish.
  28. # [00:37] <tw2113> .g dive into html5
  29. # [00:37] <caniuse> tw2113: Dive Into HTML5 - http://diveintohtml5.info/
  30. # [00:37] <keepguessing> pitchfork My english is good. Probably I need to check before I press enter. Because I see I am eating a few words. Thanks for the pointer.
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  32. # [00:39] <andrewjbaker> tw2113++
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  34. # [00:42] <keepguessing> caniuse thank you for the link. I saw it on the topic and was going through it. But wanted to ask if there was a good comprehensive video tutorial. Anyways cannot force anyone to give me a video tutorial when it may not exists. Dive into series of prog books are usually pretty good so I will go through it thank you once again :)
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  37. # [00:43] <andrewjbaker> Oh, and for what it's worth, I could infer what keepguessing was typing.
  38. # [00:43] <keepguessing> pitchfork thank you to you too. (Is the english ok ;-) )
  39. # [00:43] <tw2113> caniuse is a bot keepguessing
  40. # [00:44] <tw2113> ?g introducing html
  41. # [00:44] <caniuse> tw2113: Introducing HTML 3.2 - http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Wilbur/
  42. # [00:44] <bot-t1> tw2113, Introducing HTML 3.2 - http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Wilbur/
  43. # [00:44] <tw2113> oops
  44. # [00:44] <keepguessing> s/caniuse/tw2113 :)
  45. # [00:44] <tw2113> ?g introducing html5
  46. # [00:44] <caniuse> tw2113: Introducing HTML5: Bruce Lawson and Remy Sharp - http://introducinghtml5.com/
  47. # [00:44] <bot-t1> tw2113, Introducing HTML5: Bruce Lawson and Remy Sharp - http://introducinghtml5.com/
  48. # [00:44] <keepguessing> thank you. Did not know if .g was a trigger. :)
  49. # [00:47] <keepguessing> introducinghtml5 looks like a small book and worth a purchase. Thanks tw2113
  50. # [00:47] <tw2113> good people behind it
  51. # [00:47] <keepguessing> diveintohtml5 looks fun though :)
  52. # [00:48] <keepguessing> I see
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  90. # [02:44] <fluffheadsr> anyone know of a good place to find HTML5 dev's looking for work? I have project i'm looking for a partner to help me develop it. I plan to do most of the business code, but i need a visualizer. Paid, obviously, but i'm looking for the right person. Anyone know of a good site I can use?
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  121. # [03:42] <miket3> i am posting a textarea to my server. no jquery no js just straight post. I seem to be losing the carriage returns...
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  182. # [05:38] <grantg> paul_irish: also HW acceleration in chrome seems to not be working on my site again.
  183. # [05:38] <grantg> takes up a whole core when stuff is in fullscreen.
  184. # [05:39] <grantg> I think someone regressed the layer acceleration in chrome
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  193. # [05:49] <grantg> chrome dev is fine
  194. # [05:49] <grantg> seems someone accidentallied chrome canary (again)
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  216. # [06:39] <techquila> Hi there... I'm fairly new to this all so please excuse if this is a dumb question... still learning the ropes and best practices. what would be the best way to embed a you tube video so that when you click a link off a nav menu, it opens up in a particular target? Hopefully that makes sense
  217. # [06:40] <techquila> here's an example I know works for vimeo (if you put a video id in the href)
  218. # [06:40] <techquila> <li><a href="http://player.vimeo.com/video/" target="mainframe">night time</a></li>
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  226. # [06:52] <techquila> think i may have done it by creating a new html doc just for the embed video then changed the vimeo href in my earlier post with that of the new html doc
  227. # [06:52] <techquila> not sure if that is good practice at all but seems to do the trick
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  402. # [12:56] <obert-> hello,do you get an usefull example of canvas usage?
  403. # [12:59] <obert-> or is it just a funny thing?
  404. # [13:01] <andrewjbaker> http://bomomo.com/
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  408. # [13:02] <obert-> just a funny thing?:)
  409. # [13:03] <obert-> depends on creativity huh
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  411. # [13:04] <andrewjbaker> Canvas is being used most frequently for HTML5 games right now.
  412. # [13:04] <obert-> games!
  413. # [13:04] <obert-> mah
  414. # [13:04] <obert-> games like pacman and tetris?
  415. # [13:05] <andrewjbaker> Well, and slightly more advanced.
  416. # [13:05] <andrewjbaker> But!
  417. # [13:05] <andrewjbaker> There's also this: http://browserling.com/
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  419. # [13:05] <andrewjbaker> Serious application of the canvas element. :-)
  420. # [13:06] <obert-> are they tryin to be a substitute of flash?
  421. # [13:06] <andrewjbaker> If games aren't your thing.
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  423. # [13:06] <andrewjbaker> Are who?
  424. # [13:06] <obert-> w3c
  425. # [13:07] <andrewjbaker> Not sure I understand.
  426. # [13:07] <Jon47> obert- they are trying to do everything flash can do, plus a lot more stuff, and in a way that is open to the community
  427. # [13:08] <Jon47> but no, they are not trying to be flash, at all
  428. # [13:08] <obert-> mhm weird stuff
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  430. # [13:08] <andrewjbaker> Canvas is just one teeny tiny part of HTML5.
  431. # [13:08] <obert-> mhm
  432. # [13:09] <obert-> it is curious to see something tht cn be drawed
  433. # [13:09] <obert-> that.
  434. # [13:09] <andrewjbaker> I'd say that SVG was more akin to Flash, really.
  435. # [13:09] <obert-> brrr
  436. # [13:10] <obert-> http://www.drawastickman.com/
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  442. # [13:12] <obert-> thought it was canvas ;)
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  446. # [13:18] <obert-> thanks for the info
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  515. # [15:13] <Jon47> has anybody successfully used :before and :after in IE8? Theoretically they are supported but I'm not seeing it actually working..
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  528. # [15:35] <obert-> Jon47: did you tried ::after and ::before?
  529. # [15:36] <obert-> just as check
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  531. # [15:38] <Jon47> obert- good idea, let me try
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  533. # [15:39] <Jon47> obert- nah, that doesn't seem to be the magic bullet
  534. # [15:39] <Velmont> Jon47: Not running quirks? Remember <!doctype html>
  535. # [15:40] <Jon47> yeah definitely got that
  536. # [15:40] <Jon47> i have no idea how to even check that it's reading my CSS right, their debugger doesn't seem to show anything about pseudo-elements unlike webkit dev tools or firebug..
  537. # [15:42] <Velmont> or opera dev tools ;-)
  538. # [15:43] <Velmont> dragonfly I mean.
  539. # [15:43] <Jon47> right!
  540. # [15:43] <Velmont> Hmm. Isn't it possible to use firebug lite with IE?
  541. # [15:43] <Jon47> anyway, i just wanted to know if anybody had any concrete experience with it WORKING
  542. # [15:43] <Jon47> i cna debug it on my own, thanks for the insight!
  543. # [15:43] <Velmont> Jon47: It's working for me, -- but I'm using ie7.js
  544. # [15:44] <Velmont> IIRC, I think I depend on it, -- long time ago though.
  545. # [15:45] <Jon47> intersting, never used that
  546. # [15:45] <Jon47> i'll look into it, thank you Velmont
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  622. # [17:31] <bendman> do browsers grab cached versions of files even if the GET variables change? (eg. style.css?version=15 vs ?version=14)
  623. # [17:31] <Velmont> bendman: Nope.
  624. # [17:32] <Velmont> bendman: Don't need the version-thingy either, -- style.css?14 style.css?15 -- is often done
  625. # [17:32] <bendman> yeah, that was just an example, not actually going to use it for versioning even
  626. # [17:32] <bendman> thanks :)
  627. # [17:33] <Velmont> cache busting ;-
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  720. # [19:23] <shawn_dones> dawg
  721. # [19:23] <shawn_dones> whats up?
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  734. # [19:30] <shawn_dones> why is there no /> at the end of this <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge,chrome=1">
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  736. # [19:31] <andrewjbaker> HTML5 != XHTML
  737. # [19:31] <bendman> shawn_dones: is it html 5? because html 5 != xhtml
  738. # [19:31] <bendman> ^ what he said
  739. # [19:31] <Jon47> does anybody know if IE10 will support the old IE filter css properties? and will they stack with the ms-gradient rules?
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  811. # [20:42] <bendman> shawn_dones: ah. yeah, I never thought about it much except when I had to change my text editor shortcuts from /> endings to > on empty tags. that and when I was perusing the boilerplate :)
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  867. # [21:59] <smplstk> ?has
  868. # [21:59] <caniuse> smplstk: callbacks.has(): Determine whether a supplied callback is in a list http://api.jquery.com/callbacks.has/
  869. # [21:59] <bot-t> .has(selector): Reduce the set of matched elements to those that have a descendant that matches the selector or DOM element. http://api.jquery.com/has/
  870. # [21:59] <caniuse> smplstk: .has(): Reduce the set of matched elements to those that have a descendant that matches the selector or DOM element. http://api.jquery.com/has/
  871. # [21:59] <caniuse> smplstk: :has() Selector: Selects elements which contain at least one element that matches the specified selector. http://api.jquery.com/has-selector/
  872. # [21:59] <smplstk> AHHHH
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  881. # [22:06] <Wilto> Can I Use: Rise of the Machines.
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  885. # [22:09] <zuzage2> test
  886. # [22:09] <zuzage2> is there a way to include another document in one's html?
  887. # [22:10] <zuzage2> without frames
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  901. # [22:25] <David_Bradbury> Fun little thing I threw together for a server monitor: http://jsfiddle.net/qRY9R/
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  938. # [23:05] <xp_prg> is it possible to shorten this? table#type_tbl_data tr:nth-of-type(even), table#aff_tbl_data tr:nth-of-type(even) {
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  940. # [23:08] <Wilto> xp_prg: “.zebrastripe tr:nth-of-type(even)”?
  941. # [23:09] <xp_prg> can I use like a regular expression for choosing the id?
  942. # [23:10] <xp_prg> like table[#_tbl_data] tr:nth etc...
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  950. # [23:15] <David_Bradbury> There is no regular expression support in CSS, as cool as that may be
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