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  68. # [01:32] <JonathanNeal> CANVAS TRANSFORMS ARE EVIL
  69. # [01:34] <tw2113> so are evil things
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  71. # [01:34] <drdreed> can anybody help me figure out how they go the coordinates for this demo http://raphaeljs.com/australia.html
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  73. # [01:35] <JonathanNeal> they will not let you modify them after something has been drawn. evil evil.
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  75. # [01:36] <drdreed> what do you mean?
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  77. # [01:37] <drdreed> i just want to know how they made the shapes in the first place. I want to do a similar effect on a different map but need to know how to draw the paths
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  95. # [01:58] <JonathanNeal> I only need to solve for the offset X and offset Y @ http://sandbox.thewikies.com/temp-canvas/rotate.html would someone help me?
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  119. # [02:55] <Jesdisciple> JonathanNeal: http://codepad.org/gYZAylEh modified from http://www.html5canvastutorials.com/advanced/html5-canvas-mouse-coordinates/
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  121. # [02:56] <Jesdisciple> that's ripped from a personal project
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  136. # [03:20] <smplstk> caniuse mediaqueries
  137. # [03:20] <caniuse> smplstk: You can use CSS3 Media Queries with Internet Explorer 9, Firefox 3.5, Chrome 4, Safari 4, Opera 9.5-9.6, iOS Safari 3.2, Opera Mini 5.0-6.0, and Opera Mobile 10. http://caniuse.com/#search=css-mediaqueries
  138. # [03:20] <smplstk> tw2113 ^^
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  141. # [03:22] <tw2113> must not have liked my spaces
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  154. # [03:49] <jimmyrcom> what do people normally use to wrap text in a canvas element? Do they just turn a div into a canvas element?
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  156. # [03:54] <tw2113> most likely
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  160. # [03:57] <jaha> how would i take an image uploaded via a form and draw it into a cnvas for resizing?
  161. # [03:58] <jaha> the html5 canvas is serverside in my case
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  164. # [03:59] <jaha> nvm, im an idiot, need sleep
  165. # [04:00] <Armen> I agree.
  166. # [04:00] <Armen> on the sleep part, not sure about the idiot part.
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  168. # [04:07] <tw2113> i agree on the idiot part
  169. # [04:07] <tw2113> oh wait, we're not talking about me?
  170. # [04:07] <tw2113> my bad
  171. # [04:08] <tw2113> jaha = no idiot
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  173. # [04:08] <min|dvir|us1> Anyone familiar with canvas transforms?
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  176. # [04:14] <xp_prg2> what is the best way to fallback for browsers that don't have the input number type field?
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  179. # [04:19] <austinbv> what would cause a QuotaExceded exception when using sessionStorage on the ipad?
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  183. # [04:23] <xp_prg2> firefox 9 doesn't support the number input field?!
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  185. # [04:24] <xp_prg2> I can't believe Chrome is better than Firefox!!!
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  187. # [04:24] <tw2113> all of the fields should fall back to text fields
  188. # [04:25] <xp_prg2> they do just surprised firefox is behind Chrome
  189. # [04:25] <tw2113> all of the browsers are at different levels of support for various things
  190. # [04:25] <xp_prg2> tw2113 do you know the best way to fallback to a number html5 field in unsipported browsers, I assume i need to use modernizer?
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  192. # [04:26] <tw2113> not sure, i've not done much with the new inputs
  193. # [04:26] <tw2113> check the modernizr polyfill wiki
  194. # [04:27] <xp_prg2> wow so many to choose from, which one is the best?
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  197. # [04:30] <tw2113> *shrug*
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  205. # [04:39] <grantg> hey tw2113
  206. # [04:39] <tw2113> yo
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  208. # [04:39] <grantg> I can't believe someone guilt tripped me into working on js gba again
  209. # [04:40] <grantg> So 1000 lines later I'm working on I/O
  210. # [04:40] <grantg> https://github.com/grantgalitz/IodineGBA/blob/master/js/GameBoyAdvanceIOCore.js
  211. # [04:40] <grantg> D:
  212. # [04:40] <tw2113> stop being a sucker
  213. # [04:40] <grantg> I'm too far in, I'm actually gonna go full steam with this
  214. # [04:41] <grantg> my commit log already shows that
  215. # [04:43] <tw2113> xp_prg2 what are you doing still on Firefox 9?
  216. # [04:43] <tw2113> they released 11 last week
  217. # [04:43] <grantg> tw2113: What's the add-on to revert the ugly gray background for viewing images
  218. # [04:44] <grantg> ?
  219. # [04:44] <grantg> Firefox 11 fuglified image viewing
  220. # [04:45] <tw2113> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-default-image-style/?src=search
  221. # [04:45] <grantg> ah
  222. # [04:45] <tw2113> i like the darker bg personally
  223. # [04:45] <grantg> NOT WHEN THE IMAGE HAS TRANSPARENCY!
  224. # [04:45] <grantg> It broke mah reddit f7u12 comics. D:
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  227. # [04:46] <tw2113> lesson learned? don't rely on other things providing white backgrounds when you need it to be white
  228. # [04:47] <xp_prg2> is firefox still better than Chrome or not?
  229. # [04:47] <grantg> "There was a great disturbance in the force as thousands of redditors switched to google chrome."
  230. # [04:47] <tw2113> it's all opinion xp_prg2
  231. # [04:47] <xp_prg2> I am in shock to understand that Chrome could be better than Firefox, tell me this is not so
  232. # [04:48] <tw2113> it's all opinion xp_prg2
  233. # [04:48] <min|dvir|us1> tw2113: some of it is growing in popularity.
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  235. # [04:48] <tw2113> i won't deny that chrome is still gaining in use
  236. # [04:48] <tw2113> but "better" is subjective
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  241. # [04:55] <min|dvir|us1> tw2113: I'd say Chrome is objectively faster in most cases.
  242. # [04:55] <min|dvir|us1> But Firefox does conserve memory better.
  243. # [04:56] <tw2113> i stick to the aurora channel myself
  244. # [04:56] <tw2113> so i'm on version 13
  245. # [04:56] <min|dvir|us1> That's cool. I'm on Chromium.
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  248. # [05:05] <xp_prg2> can anyone recommend a good html 5 help generator for helping users of web apps?
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  251. # [05:16] <min|dvir|us1> Anyone familiar with <canvas>?
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  333. # [07:25] <aQute> I am unable to user websockets in firefox with SSL while its working in chrome can anybody suggest something ?
  334. # [07:25] <aQute> *user = user
  335. # [07:25] <aQute> *user = use
  336. # [07:28] <takkun1946> without fully knowing what you're trying to do and how... all I can do is point you to the FF docs
  337. # [07:28] <takkun1946> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/WebSockets
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  339. # [07:30] <aQute> I am trying to use a browser vnc client which is using websockets but the problem is it works in http not in https(gives security error) is there anyway to tackle that it works in chrome
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  343. # [07:32] <takkun1946> also, have a look at your about:config and search for network.websocket.allowInsecureFromHTTPS
  344. # [07:32] <takkun1946> this might be your problem... but then becareful with that also
  345. # [07:33] <takkun1946> it might open you up for something else
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  349. # [07:36] <aQute> ok thanks for the advice
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  547. # [12:49] <mnemoc> hi, do you know a good design book for tasteless programmers? :(
  548. # [12:49] <dr0id> who are tasteless programmers
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  550. # [12:50] <mnemoc> people how can code but can't produce decent interfaces
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  552. # [12:51] <mnemoc> and can't tell the difference between something normal people finds attractive or awful
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  582. # [13:35] <Jon47> mnemoc - i don't think you can teach this in a book
  583. # [13:36] <mnemoc> i agree a book can't teach you to have taste... but it could provide recipes and rules to follow and learn to produce things others will find tasteful :)
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  633. # [14:48] <soee> if i want to draw triangle inside canvas
  634. # [14:49] <soee> does this canvas must have id param or can i access it by class (few canvas with the same class ) ?
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  641. # [14:56] <Armen138> soee: you can access it by whatever selector you feel comfortable with
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  643. # [14:56] <Armen138> using an id is recommended though
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  647. # [14:59] <soee> Armen, ok i though i can do this with jQuery by simply using $(id) but this should be: $(is)[0]
  648. # [14:59] <StoneCypher> oh for christ's sake
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  652. # [15:09] <Pomax> $() for jquery sets, $()[...] for the html elements in those sets.
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  657. # [15:12] <Pomax> (alternatively, document.querySelector(id) will give you the html element. Yes, all HTML5 browsers support document.querySelector and document.querySelectorAll =)
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  663. # [15:17] <danielfilho> anyone from chrome here? /ping paul_irish_ ?
  664. # [15:17] <danielfilho> I'd like to know if is there some way to hide this kind of message in dev tools: Resource interpreted as Script but transferred with MIME type text/plain: "http://localhost:3200/static/pagination.js"
  665. # [15:18] <Jon47> i don't think this is really a good way to get in touch with those folks
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  667. # [15:18] <danielfilho> 'cause I use node on dev, but on prod the statics are hosted on Apache with proper headers :)
  668. # [15:18] <Jon47> is node unable to send proper headers?
  669. # [15:18] <Jon47> taht seems unlikely
  670. # [15:18] <danielfilho> it is, but I don't mind it in dev :)
  671. # [15:19] <soee> ok one more questions, what units canvs uses to draw for example rectangle ?
  672. # [15:19] <danielfilho> *it is able, I mean
  673. # [15:19] <Pomax> the real question is: why do you want to hide the message, instead of fix your server's mimetype?
  674. # [15:19] <Pomax> (or override your ajax request mimetype to the correct one)
  675. # [15:20] <soee> if i have canvas 16x16px i have to set rectangle points values like [200,20], [300,300]
  676. # [15:20] <soee> to get small triangle
  677. # [15:20] <soee> *triangle
  678. # [15:20] <Pomax> canvas uses its own canvas units. A canvas with width 200 and height 200, without CSS scaling, will place a rect (10,10,50,50) at grid location 10,10 with width 50,50 and render it that way
  679. # [15:21] <Pomax> if you CSS scale it by also giving it CSS width and height, it'll place it scaled css width/canvas.width and css height/canvas.height
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  681. # [15:22] <Pomax> so a canvas with width 200 and height 200, but CSS width and height 400 will scale all coordinates to twice as far on the page (but will keep them at whatever coordinates you give as far as the canvas grid positions are concerned)
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  684. # [15:23] <jayflux> hey guys, when using css transitions on images you can see it defocues then takes a while to refocus the image once the transform has finished. Is there any hack/way of speeding this up?
  685. # [15:24] <Pomax> terminology matters - you mean HTML element focus, or do you mean the image gets blurred
  686. # [15:25] <jayflux> while the transition is happening the image gets blured, not focus in the html sense
  687. # [15:25] <jayflux> Pomax: this is my page http://eltaselect.com/ecobuild.html click the thumbnails (only on chrome atm)
  688. # [15:25] <Pomax> the easier hack is to move to a different css rule, after the transition period is over.
  689. # [15:26] <Pomax> from the looks of it, your transition is affecting all your other graphics, too.
  690. # [15:27] <Pomax> even though they don't scale, they switch to aliasses "I am moving so I can rendered low res for a moment" mode
  691. # [15:27] <Pomax> *can be
  692. # [15:27] <Pomax> then when the transition is done, all of them have to be rendered high quality again, so that might be why it takes a little bit
  693. # [15:27] <jayflux> yeah Pomax I was thinking that too
  694. # [15:28] <Jon47> jayflux - why not have the images start out as scaled down
  695. # [15:28] <Jon47> and save the actual image at the scaled-up height
  696. # [15:28] <Pomax> I'd see if it's actually modifying all of them, just not scaling
  697. # [15:28] <Pomax> and see if you can replace that with selective transitions on a single image instead
  698. # [15:28] <Jon47> instead of saving the images at a height bigger than youll ever use
  699. # [15:29] <Pomax> I really wish browsers were able to tell us which JS functions were bound to it already.
  700. # [15:29] <Pomax> *to elements
  701. # [15:30] <jayflux> Jon47: true, that was laziness on my part
  702. # [15:30] <jayflux> I should have scaled these down a lot more before using them
  703. # [15:31] <Jon47> Pomax chrome shows event handlers bound to elements, but often it's hard to trace it through the jquery binding functions
  704. # [15:31] <Jon47> in this case it's just using css :hover pseudo-state though
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  711. # [15:41] <soee> can i somehow rotate my triangle drawn in canvas ?
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  714. # [15:41] <Pomax> context.rotate()
  715. # [15:42] <Fabryz> soee https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Canvas_tutorial/Transformations#A_rotate_example
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  726. # [15:47] <soee> ok im not sure if im doing it right way, i have triangle now i want to flip this triangle vertically or horizontally (as function parameter)
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  801. # [17:06] <paul_irish> obv.
  802. # [17:06] <paul_irish> h5bp htaccess solves for you
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  921. # [18:51] <danielfilho> paul_irish: I know that, but in dev I only use nodejs, in prod, all goes right on apache. Just to have a "clear" console :)
  922. # [18:52] <WebDragon> is it <header> or <heading> ?
  923. # [18:52] <Brunoz> header
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  925. # [18:54] <tw2113> ^
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  930. # [19:04] <JonathanNeal> Hello!
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  932. # [19:05] <Brunoz> sup
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  941. # [19:10] <Jon47> danielfilho - i'm sure setting the appropriate mimetypes is a solved problem in nodejs if you search the web, but regardless if you're developing in a radically different environment than where your production code is hosted i think you're in for a world of pain anyway
  942. # [19:11] <danielfilho> Jon47: sure, not that different, I only provide on dev the static css and js files. No problem at all. I'm already setting everything on node. Thanks for your help :D
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  1052. # [20:30] <lucasgonze> I assume that a code element is inline and can't contain block elements. but I can't verify that in the spec because I don't really understand the spec language. the spec describes the code element as a phrasing element and then directs me to the docs for phrasing elements. but the definition of phrasing elements doesn't mention either block or inline. do the concepts of block and inline still apply in html5?
  1053. # [20:30] <lucasgonze> that is, the element named "code."
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  1091. # [20:53] <uf0_work> one hesitation with using preprocessed CSS is the difficulty in using with browser inspectors
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  1093. # [20:54] <uf0_work> I like to insect elements and lookup the line number in my code
  1094. # [20:54] <uf0_work> how will that work using SASS?
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  1254. # [22:29] <JonathanNeal> https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintohtml5/issues/20 - I believe it merited a real discussion. Few have contributed, I will resolve the issue soon.
  1255. # [22:29] <socialhapy> ★ Issue #20 on diveintohtml5 (GeorgeLangley; 3h, 45m ago): Use of Foul Language on a Public Site
  1256. # [22:30] <JonathanNeal> Without keeping the discussion open for too long and create too much division, I'm sharing it now so everyone has a chance to chime in.
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  1270. # [22:37] <manuchill> JonathanNeal, i agree with nimbupani
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  1272. # [22:37] <JonathanNeal> Chime in. It's an open dialog.
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  1285. # [22:44] <paul_irish> manuchill: yah i just added a comment along the same lines. go for it
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  1287. # [22:45] <manuchill> same here, you just beat to me it paul_irish
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  1303. # [22:53] <JonathanNeal> manuchill: thank you
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  1317. # [23:00] <manuchill> JonathanNeal, np
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  1326. # [23:02] <soulseekah> Hey there, are there any public websocket servers that one would use in a demo of websockets?
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  1333. # [23:06] <paul_irish> http://websocket.org/echo.html
  1334. # [23:07] <paul_irish> http://kaazing.me/
  1335. # [23:07] <paul_irish> http://websocketstest.com/
  1336. # [23:07] <paul_irish> http://autobahn.ws/testsuite
  1337. # [23:07] <paul_irish> soulseekah: ^
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  1342. # [23:07] <soulseekah> kaa-ching! paul_irish +1
  1343. # [23:08] <soulseekah> no, +4 actually
  1344. # [23:08] <paul_irish> :D
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  1351. # [23:13] <grantg> ugh
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  1353. # [23:14] <grantg> I hope V8 can handle super polymorphism well
  1354. # [23:14] <grantg> for calling into highly swapped references
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  1366. # [23:21] <dilvie> grantg: as in super class?
  1367. # [23:22] <grantg> As in calling multiple functions from one reference, swapped out over time.
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  1369. # [23:23] <grantg> polymorphism by changing out a property referencing other properties, which of those being functions
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  1374. # [23:24] <dilvie> grantg: where can I learn more about that?
  1375. # [23:24] <grantg> this.renderBGLayer(), where "renderBGLayer" is not actually a function, but references the others
  1376. # [23:24] <grantg> I use this in js gbc and js gba
  1377. # [23:24] <grantg> in js gbc it's not as heavily used, but I needed it for things like optimizing for non tile priority staging
  1378. # [23:24] <dilvie> does the technique have a name?
  1379. # [23:24] <grantg> in js gba it's crazy
  1380. # [23:25] <grantg> due to all the rendering situations
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  1383. # [23:25] <grantg> two window layers with color effects + OAM window for masking with separate control of inside/outside masking of oam sprites and bg layers
  1384. # [23:25] <grantg> ugh
  1385. # [23:26] <grantg> and those 5 basic bg modes
  1386. # [23:26] <grantg> that dispatch point is gonna be hooot
  1387. # [23:26] <grantg> so it doesn't become if/else - ception
  1388. # [23:27] <grantg> dilvie: Just assign a property to equal another
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  1390. # [23:27] <grantg> but the other being an object or function
  1391. # [23:27] <dilvie> grantg: yeah, I understand what you're doing. =)
  1392. # [23:27] <grantg> you're not "copying" functions, you're referencing
  1393. # [23:27] <dilvie> I was just wondering if it's a common and well understood technique, with some established best-practices
  1394. # [23:27] <grantg> lots of hotswapping
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  1396. # [23:27] <dilvie> I imagine that would perform quite well
  1397. # [23:28] <grantg> It does, usually
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  1399. # [23:28] <grantg> unless the jit decides to fudge to called functions
  1400. # [23:28] <dilvie> I'm not sure I understand the best use-cases for the technique
  1401. # [23:28] <grantg> *the called
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  1403. # [23:29] <grantg> I'm using it for ram mirroring cases and managing a dynamic memory map as well
  1404. # [23:29] <dilvie> I usually don't think about employing function calls that do different things depending on the TIME that they're called.. =)
  1405. # [23:30] <grantg> heh
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  1407. # [23:30] <grantg> I do this so instead of having 10 if/elses in the calling code, there's none and there's just a function call
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  1410. # [23:31] <grantg> I think of it like caching the results of the if/elses
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  1412. # [23:32] <grantg> Also, the audio is gonna glitch on browsers that have shitty setInterval timing
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  1415. # [23:32] <grantg> As I can't re-use the magic papu overgeneration trick from js gbc
  1416. # [23:33] <grantg> for js gba
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  1420. # [23:33] <dilvie> what?
  1421. # [23:34] <grantg> Audio support in js gba, that's what
  1422. # [23:34] <grantg> I use a special overgeneration trick to generate samples when it's not running fullspeed
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  1424. # [23:34] <grantg> Can't do that in js gba due to the dma audio
  1425. # [23:35] <dilvie> so, for the if/else stuff, I do that all the time, too, but I usually build an action object and then call the method using a variable name actionObject[action]()
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  1427. # [23:35] <dilvie> that way, the methods themselves aren't actually changing over time, you're just calling a different method depending on the current state
  1428. # [23:35] <grantg> I do that too
  1429. # [23:36] <grantg> see how I execute opcodes in js gbc and js gba
  1430. # [23:36] <grantg> and how memory is decoded (it's done via ref swaps AND funcs in arrays)
  1431. # [23:36] <dilvie> for timing, I like to loop over window.postMessage if I need a faster rate than requestAnimationFrame
  1432. # [23:36] <dilvie> were you saying you can't do that?
  1433. # [23:37] <grantg> I can't use requestAnimationFrame
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  1435. # [23:37] <grantg> Because I need regular timing intervals
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  1437. # [23:37] <grantg> I use requestAnimationFrame only for frame blitting
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  1439. # [23:37] <dilvie> have you tried the postMessage trick?
  1440. # [23:37] <grantg> not for core timing
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  1442. # [23:37] <xarxer> Is there any standard way to prevent caching of CSS files specifically besides small hacks?
  1443. # [23:37] <grantg> audio needs regular timing for proper buffering
  1444. # [23:37] <dilvie> sorry I'm not familiar with gba. =)
  1445. # [23:38] <Velmont> grantg: BTW, did you have a testcase that shows those setInterval-differences handy?
  1446. # [23:38] <grantg> and many browsers glitch out requestAnimationFrame, so even setInterval is a better choice in the browsers that support it poorly
  1447. # [23:38] <Velmont> grantg: I was going to make one, -- but I've been swamped with Other Stuff(tm)
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  1449. # [23:38] <dilvie> setInterval varies betwen 4 - 20ms cross-browser
  1450. # [23:39] <dilvie> chrome variance is closer to 4 from my experience
  1451. # [23:39] <grantg> I use a core 16 ms timer
  1452. # [23:39] <grantg> that's it
  1453. # [23:39] <grantg> for driving everything
  1454. # [23:39] <grantg> frame blitting is done out of core
  1455. # [23:39] <dilvie> using setInterval?
  1456. # [23:39] <grantg> with requestAnimationFrame
  1457. # [23:39] <dilvie> if requestAnimationFrame gives you headaches, seriously try the postMessage trick
  1458. # [23:40] <grantg> otherwise if RAF is not detected, then it'll blit at the end of every iteration...
  1459. # [23:40] <grantg> dilvie: I don't want to spam the event queue
  1460. # [23:40] <grantg> Doing so blocks audio
  1461. # [23:40] <ard_> what do you call 'frame blitting'?
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  1463. # [23:40] <grantg> (web audio api)
  1464. # [23:41] <grantg> putImageData being called from the RAF callback
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  1466. # [23:41] <ard_> framebuffer to prevent flickering effect?
  1467. # [23:41] <grantg> yes
  1468. # [23:41] <dilvie> grantg: do you have a test case that demonstrates the audio blocking problem with postMessage?
  1469. # [23:41] <dilvie> I haven't noticed any issues yet, but I haven't pushed it hard, yet, either.
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  1471. # [23:42] <ard_> ah, you won't get this effect in canvas anyway (at least if you're not rendering in some strange async way)
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  1473. # [23:42] <grantg> When I convert the 15 bit RGB framebuffer to 32 bit RGBA, I do it at the same time as buffering the frame
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  1475. # [23:42] <ard_> because browser does the whole rendering at the end of the event loop
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  1477. # [23:42] <grantg> Copies to a secondary buffer when swizzling
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  1479. # [23:43] <grantg> ard_: I software render the graphics
  1480. # [23:43] <grantg> as in I compute each pixel value in js
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  1482. # [23:43] <ard_> okay okay, I see now
  1483. # [23:43] <grantg> I v-sync by calling the swizzle func on the virtual v-blank
  1484. # [23:43] <grantg> so I have v-sync support in js gbc/gba
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  1486. # [23:44] <Velmont> grantg: Seemed to me that Opera is quite open to change the setInterval behaviour. But would have to test it quite much, -- such changes can have weird effects. -- Although it being special behaviour (and in your case, very bad) makes it probably much easier to fix.
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  1489. # [23:44] <ard_> I thought you do it only because of old known flickering problem
  1490. # [23:44] <grantg> by copying the buffer at the end of every frame draw to the external buffer for RAF to pick up
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  1494. # [23:45] <grantg> dilvie: If I set setInterval to even 10 ms, web audio drops samples in chrome for mac
  1495. # [23:45] <grantg> As the buffering web audio does is very low
  1496. # [23:45] <grantg> So it can't be blocked for long
  1497. # [23:45] <grantg> 4 ms causes more event queue buildup
  1498. # [23:46] <grantg> Velmont: Right now I think Opera needs to implement an audio api first
  1499. # [23:46] <grantg> like web audio
  1500. # [23:47] <dilvie> grantg: I wasn't suggesting that you drop setInterval ... I was suggesting that you avoid it entirely by creating your own timing loop.
  1501. # [23:47] <grantg> Opera uses my flash swf to create my own js api
  1502. # [23:47] <dilvie> I'm aware of the issues with setInterval
  1503. # [23:48] <Velmont> grantg: Well, it's not the same people who will work on those two things anyway, -- and one of them is easier/quicker to do than the other ;-)
  1504. # [23:48] <grantg> dilvie: Problem with the other methods other than setInterval is that they don't have lag compensation
  1505. # [23:48] <grantg> they brute force around it though
  1506. # [23:48] <grantg> with spamming the event queue
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  1510. # [23:51] <grantg> sorry about the drop
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  1512. # [23:51] <dilvie> the problem with setInterval is that you end up with dropped ticks and totally inconstant timing, but you know that. =)
  1513. # [23:51] <grantg> I can't rely on time stamps given by timer functions
  1514. # [23:51] <grantg> They're inaccurate
  1515. # [23:51] <grantg> I use the samples remaining in the audio buffer for the actual clocking compensation!
  1516. # [23:52] <grantg> As I do heuristics against it
  1517. # [23:52] <dilvie> IMO, this is a problem that needs to be fixed with better standards for browsers to implement. requestAnimationFrame is a good idea.. we need something like that with a variable rate and dependable accuracy. Timing is harder than it sounds to implement, though. =)
  1518. # [23:52] <grantg> dilvie: But chrome actually does what I want
  1519. # [23:53] <grantg> To have an *average* of the time requested
  1520. # [23:53] <dilvie> that's cool.
  1521. # [23:53] <grantg> So the buffer heuristics doesn't have to go crazy for adjusting the timing
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  1523. # [23:54] <grantg> The problem with timers in js is that you can't use the timestamps they givr you
  1524. # [23:54] <grantg> *give
  1525. # [23:54] <dilvie> no kidding.
  1526. # [23:54] <dilvie> =)
  1527. # [23:54] <grantg> They inaccurate to a degree on different platforms
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  1529. # [23:54] <grantg> *they're
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  1531. # [23:54] <dilvie> Yeah, that can confuse you if you're not expecting it.
  1532. # [23:55] <grantg> hence why I stick with ol' setInterval and just do heuristics on the audio for speed adjustment
  1533. # [23:55] <grantg> as setInterval won't clog up the event queue
  1534. # [23:55] <paul_irish> grantg: high resolution timer is coming to chrome soon
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  1536. # [23:55] <grantg> I don't want the timers to spam the hell out of the queue, to the point they block audio callbacks
  1537. # [23:56] <grantg> problem with the js instance being single threaded!
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  1540. # [23:57] <grantg> paul_irish: I'd like to see the browsers conform to the same timer algorithm for setInterval at least. :P
  1541. # [23:57] <grantg> As webkit has a running average system, while firefox has a "try to get up to, but don't call sooner than" system
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  1544. # [23:58] <dilvie> paul_irish: is the high resolution timer a standard, or just hoping other browsers follow suit?
  1545. # [23:58] <grantg> Firefox is more precise in getting 16 ms timing for instance, but underruns the calls per second badly due to never compensating
  1546. # [23:58] <grantg> chrome is the polar opposite
  1547. # [23:58] <dilvie> paul_irish: I'm very interested in improved timer resolution, as well. =)
  1548. # [23:59] <grantg> chrome seems to have heuristics that see future gc pauses and such to call ahead sometimes
  1549. # [23:59] <grantg> and "late" when some slowdown is also happening
  1550. # [23:59] <dilvie> high resolution timing is essential for games and audio / video production applications =)
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