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  18. # [00:19] <dahlfors> ShinyObjects: hmmm. maybe some of the code was changed. I do more css and interface things. Might be that it checks browser versions and just assume non-mobile browsers have flash.
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  24. # [00:32] <ShinyObjects> dahlfors: quite possible. There's a way to detect the availability of specific plugins via JS - it may be best to check for it and fallback to html5 if it's not there
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  35. # [00:37] <dahlfors> ShinyObjects: sounds like a good idea to implement in our beta yeah
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  272. # [07:14] <NhanTDN> Guys, how can I send message to #html channel?
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  275. # [07:30] <tw2113> NhanTDN do you have your nick registered with nickserv?
  276. # [07:31] <NhanTDN> Oh, I don't, so they require registration.
  277. # [07:31] <NhanTDN> Let me try
  278. # [07:31] <tw2113> that's my best guess
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  286. # [07:50] <JonathanNeal> Any of you folks run your websites through html5 validators?
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  293. # [07:54] <c_t_montgomery> JonathanNeal: one of those things I don't, but *should* do. so, no. if i did, though, it'd be from a CLI.
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  295. # [07:57] <JonathanNeal> sometimes i just want a good generic element like "x" or "x-whatever", similar to namespaced elements.
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  300. # [08:08] <JonathanNeal> I think I'll start using <_> for generic stuff,
  301. # [08:10] <JonathanNeal> or even <:>
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  305. # [08:15] <JonathanNeal> oh, it's not html valid, only xml valid.... <x> it is.
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  311. # [08:22] <tw2113> JonathanNeal would you like <!> to be a valid doctype?
  312. # [08:23] <JonathanNeal> you mean instead of <!doctype html>
  313. # [08:24] <tw2113> yeah
  314. # [08:24] <tw2113> more markup minimalization
  315. # [08:24] <JonathanNeal> i'd rather ditch the entire doctype altogether.
  316. # [08:24] <tw2113> good point there
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  318. # [08:25] <JonathanNeal> It's only there for legacy purposes, right? Same with <meta charset="utf-8"> because the http 1.1 spec says utf-8 isn't the default type.
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  320. # [08:25] <tw2113> crazy spec authors
  321. # [08:25] <tw2113> utf-8 not the default
  322. # [08:25] <JonathanNeal> And at that point, I would see no problem with ditching <head> and <body>
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  426. # [11:56] <heke80> hi,
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  429. # [11:57] <heke80> I'd like to store webform data to appCache, when posting data fails... Is it possible to post data offline
  430. # [11:58] <heke80> to store it in some app cache, which is better and larger than cookie,
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  434. # [12:01] <heke80> self asking and self answering :-p http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/01/offline-web-applications/
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  446. # [12:20] <heke80> anyone what's the most easiest way for webform submit - offline local storage - later auto submit sync & delete local copy.
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  486. # [12:49] <iHerb> Hello, and please sorry for that =) Have a nice day!
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  554. # [14:40] <JohnTeddy> This is slightly off topic, though just one quick question. Why is it still annoying to upload files? Say to facebook, are they not implementing HTML5 well, or is there is easy way to just drag my photos into a browser to upload them when the website allows that functionality?
  555. # [14:40] <JohnTeddy> You still have to download their special java app if you want to download more than a handful of photos.
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  620. # [16:06] <Velmont> JohnTeddy: You can even do client-side resize. It will really help everyone. E.g. transmitting less data, -- and also it's naturally load balanced, because the clients will resize its pictures before sending them.
  621. # [16:06] <Velmont> JohnTeddy: I started on writing a nice demo doing it all, because I wanted to use it somewhere, but I got sidetracked by some bugs and never returned to it.
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  694. # [17:38] <beshoo> hi all , i am trying to convert swf to html5 via google swiffy service but in my swf file i use : TextField.textColor while google not support it , : The ActionScript property TextField.textColor is not supported. any advice
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  843. # [20:05] <danielfilho> beshoo: I'm not sure if there's some people that have knowledge on google swiffy, but there's always some google folks hanging out around that might give you some contact :)
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  884. # [21:04] <jano> hi guys. i have a question about what i've done wrong in my html code here: http://hilgenberg.biz/htl.html InternetExplorer above (including) 8 and firefox 11 do show fine. but IE7 is crap... any idea?
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  894. # [21:11] <jarek> is there an easy way to get viewbox size for SVG element?
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  896. # [21:12] <jarek> element.viewBox.baseVal property returns the value of viewBox attribute which is not necessary the real viewbox size
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  923. # [21:56] <sunbeam> is <legend> obsolete on html5?
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  973. # [22:33] <tertl4> Languages are tools. No one is asking you to choose one and forsake all others. It's not a marriage FFS. They are tools in your toolbox. The argument is essentially "hammers suck, you should only use a screwdriver". And that will work, until you need a hammer. I have been programming in C++ for 25 years, and I wouldn't even think of writing a GUI in C++. Your principal of optimality is a fallacy...there is such a thing as 'fast
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  981. # [22:42] <chee> screwdrivers are better than hammers
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  996. # [22:59] <David_Bradbury> tertl4: I completely agree. That said, who are you talking to?
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  1046. # [23:54] <sunbeam> What is currently the best way to display / use a font that's not standard ? (eg. surface)
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