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  1. # Session Start: Sun Apr 22 00:00:00 2012
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  4. # [00:02] <obert-> it is an ugly url like <a href="foo.bar?foo=?bar&baz"
  5. # [00:02] <tw2113> turn the & into an &amp; ?
  6. # [00:02] <obert-> it is automatically generated
  7. # [00:03] <obert-> all my docs and db tables are utf8 btw
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  9. # [00:04] <obert-> why should i meet this error?
  10. # [00:04] <tw2113> i wouldn't worry about it then :D
  11. # [00:04] <tw2113> unless someone else with more knowledge says i should with & issues
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  16. # [00:06] <obert-> dunno then. thanks tw2113ù
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  21. # [00:07] <obert-> shessh
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  23. # [00:08] <tw2113> :D
  24. # [00:08] <obert-> valitor too..pff
  25. # [00:08] <obert-> validator.
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  28. # [00:10] <tw2113> some things you just have no control over
  29. # [00:10] <tw2113> especially when coming from external sources
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  39. # [00:21] <obert-> mhm
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  52. # [00:42] <sudo2k12> hi guys
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  54. # [00:43] <BlackFrog|> hi
  55. # [00:43] <sudo2k12> i have short question about html, , could we can stream mkv files over html5? if yes possbile in huge files? bandwidth usage ?
  56. # [00:45] <sudo2k12> without to convert
  57. # [00:45] <sudo2k12> direct streaming like avi mpeg
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  59. # [00:56] <BlackFrog|> HTML5 doesn't support video. It's the browser that support the video format
  60. # [00:57] <Jiyuu|C|tent> 16:39:47 :: <Jiyuu|C|tent> i'd like to know if it should be possible to use MKV of H264\aac\mp3\flac with HTML5's video tag
  61. # [00:57] <Jiyuu|C|tent> 16:40:04 :: <Jiyuu|C|tent> i searched online and i saw it should be somewhat possible
  62. # [00:57] <Jiyuu|C|tent> 16:40:16 :: <Jiyuu|C|tent> and saw a sample of it supposedly working
  63. # [00:57] <Jiyuu|C|tent> 16:40:35 :: <Jiyuu|C|tent> but when i tried it with some video i had it didn't quite work
  64. # [00:57] <Jiyuu|C|tent> 16:43:12 :: <Jiyuu|C|tent> http://jojaba.free.fr/html5/video.html
  65. # [00:57] <Jiyuu|C|tent> 16:43:25 :: <Jiyuu|C|tent> this is the sample i found that showed its possible
  66. # [00:57] <Jiyuu|C|tent> and i know it depends on the browser
  67. # [00:57] <Jiyuu|C|tent> but i want to know if theres anywhere that has info on what the browsers support
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  69. # [00:58] <sudo2k12> big thx
  70. # [00:58] <sudo2k12> so possible ?
  71. # [00:58] <sudo2k12> cause i want make big mkv streaming platform
  72. # [00:58] <Jiyuu|C|tent> in reality i wouldnt mind which browser supports it, i'd just like to know if any of them supports MKV and what are the limitations..
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  74. # [00:59] <BlackFrog|> According to Wikipedia only Google Chrome browser supports mkv
  75. # [00:59] <BlackFrog|> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska
  76. # [01:00] <sudo2k12> mhh
  77. # [01:03] <BlackFrog|> From what I am reading mkv is just a container for multiple formats
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  132. # [02:36] <dahlfors> seems like the browsers are moving towards using h.264 in .mp4 containers
  133. # [02:36] <dahlfors> firefox were promoting ogg theora, but are going to implement h.264 now anyway.
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  143. # [02:46] <JasonStoudt> Anybody need any static? http://jsfiddle.net/jstoudt/p5hhB/
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  228. # [06:07] <sh1nji> hello people
  229. # [06:07] <sh1nji> glad to have found this channel
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  232. # [06:19] <dr0id> o rly
  233. # [06:21] <Nautilus> heh that nick isnt me
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  235. # [06:23] <niftylettuce> homies()
  236. # [06:25] <Nautilus> i have a YT video (playlist actually) embedded on a site, but it doesnt work on iPad etc (it's using flash). I see that about a year ago YT introduced something for html5, but it was in beta then and all the blog entries I find are from back then. Anyone know what current-day code might be?
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  240. # [06:37] <pitchfork> Nautilus· http://meniketti.com/
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  242. # [06:40] <Nautilus> pitchfork: on the multimedia page I see an object embed there, using the flash player. I think it's similar to what I have
  243. # [06:43] <Nautilus> but no video on iPad :(
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  276. # [08:28] <piukeman> any idea how to insert data from a form into a web sql database (offline storage)
  277. # [08:29] <piukeman> I already create the table
  278. # [08:29] <piukeman> thanks in advance!!!
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  316. # [10:23] <ontime> what do I need to know about @font-face? I've never used it before ... not finding guides that are explaining it clearly to me.
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  557. # [19:06] <sunbeam> is it always recommended to use modernizr lib when writing html5 ?
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  568. # [19:25] <wycks> anyone know if the html5rocks slideshow is using landslide?
  569. # [19:25] <wycks> or I geuss its the other way around
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  572. # [19:32] <wycks> nm I see google has released html5slides
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  575. # [19:48] <Jon47> sunbeam: it depends on how you want to use html5.. if you want to take advantage of a feature then you have to understand the browser compatibility of it, and make a decision about what sorts of things will be progressive enhancements, what will be polyfilled, etc...
  576. # [19:49] <Jon47> i guess since modernizr lets you customize your build to whatever you're actually using, "yes it is always recommended" would be my answer, but assuming you configure it properly
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  599. # [20:31] <sunbeam> ok
  600. # [20:31] <sunbeam> let me look into it a bit
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  672. # [21:26] <_Pepper> Evening everyone, quick question: my read of the dialog tag (that has just come back into the spec) is that it is to replace a modal window type function we see in so many JS libs, etc. Am I reading this right? or is it just the same a as alert box style OS driven dialog box?
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  676. # [21:32] <_Pepper> if anyone needs a reference here is the link: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/commands.html#the-dialog-element
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  688. # [21:49] <_Pepper> anyone?
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  690. # [21:53] <_Pepper> hmmm.. not sure if anyone is able to read my questions and/or input. Can someone just take a quick second to say that they can see me in this chat room. Thx.
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  694. # [21:58] <mokush> _Pepper: it is you who is through the looking glass
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  696. # [21:59] <_Pepper> lol, thank you mokush. Just checking
  697. # [22:00] <mokush> _Pepper: it's sunday night, so people are probably not around
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  699. # [22:01] <_Pepper> thanks, that makes sense. I have been in groups before where sysadmin told me that I was "invisible" and people were not able to see my questions. I was just making sure this was not the case again. All good, and thank you again mokush for answering.
  700. # [22:02] <_Pepper> I will just give it a while and ask my question later in hopes to have someone input.
  701. # [22:02] <mokush> _Pepper: what what your question again?
  702. # [22:02] <_Pepper> *someone's
  703. # [22:02] <_Pepper> my read of the dialog tag (that has just come back into the spec) is that it is to replace a modal window type function we see in so many JS libs, etc. Am I reading this right? or is it just the same a as alert box style OS driven dialog box?
  704. # [22:03] <_Pepper> for reference here is the HTML5 spec reccomendation - http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/commands.html#the-dialog-element
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  706. # [22:04] <quaa> Does anyone know of a marquee that I can update elements on the fly without it scrolling a crap ton of blank space?
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  708. # [22:04] <_Pepper> mokush: the reason I am asking is because I am willing to create a polyfill for this, but just wanted to be clear on my read so that I am not wasting time.
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  710. # [22:07] <mokush> _Pepper: oh, didn't know dialog came back. from what I know, could be wrong, this is something similar to ie's showmodal, which worked similar to alert.
  711. # [22:07] <mokush> _Pepper: I think it will be similar to alert, but without blocking the entire browser chrome, maybe just the current tab. just a guess tough
  712. # [22:09] <_Pepper> thanks mokush, I was hoping for the modial window style of functionality. I think I will work with an other developer and create a best footforward polyfill and hope for the best. There are to many applications that would love a stable dialog box, IMHO. Thanks again mokush.
  713. # [22:10] <mokush> _Pepper: no problem, I'd love a native dialog too :)
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  782. # Session Close: Mon Apr 23 00:00:00 2012

The end :)