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- # [10:44] <acron^> hi, is there a specific channel for html5 game dev?
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- # [10:50] <Moo^> acron^: there is
- # [10:50] <Moo^> but I cannot remember its name out of my head
- # [10:50] <Moo^> was not simple to guess
- # [10:50] <acron^> hmmm
- # [10:50] <Moo^> acron^: there are framework specific channels like #impactjs
- # [10:50] <Moo^> also
- # [10:51] <acron^> oh nice, that'll do :)
- # [10:51] <acron^> thanks
- # [10:51] <acron^> are you an impactjs user?
- # [10:51] <Moo^> not unfortunately
- # [10:51] <Moo^> I code boring websites
- # [10:51] <acron^> :)
- # [10:51] <Moo^> but one day, maybe
- # [10:51] <acron^> heh
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- # [16:21] <vikash> I was looking for some nice HTML5 cheatsheet wallpaper but couldn't find one. Any suggestions on these?
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- # [16:28] <Jon47> vikash: it's changing constantly ;)
- # [16:29] <vikash> ha ha, still I was looking for one *if possible*:)
- # [16:29] <shwetank> do you mean the html5 spec? or all new and shiny specs?
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- # [16:30] <vikash> shwetank, hey :)
- # [16:30] <shwetank> sup
- # [16:30] <vikash> may be both, Well that depends
- # [16:30] <vikash> Great how are you :)
- # [16:30] <shwetank> good :)
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- # [16:31] <vikash> shwetank, so any suggestions?
- # [16:35] <shwetank> most would be a bit outdated .... but you could try http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/07/06/html-5-cheat-sheet-pdf/ or http://www.pakzilla.com/2011/02/27/an-ultimate-html5-cheatsheet-you-must-have/ (the browser readiness stuff in the second link is deiniftly outdated )
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- # [16:37] <vikash> shwetank, thanks
- # [16:38] <vikash> May be we guys could have ever updated cheat sheets for HTML5 :)
- # [16:38] <shwetank> i personally would rather read (or write!) some nice articles about it ;)
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- # [16:39] <vikash> hmm, but sometime I think these come handy
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- # [16:40] <shwetank> sure, some guys find cheat sheets like these very handy, and find it a valuable resource
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- # [16:42] <vikash> Its valuable for quick reference :-) but its surly very handy
- # [16:43] <Jon47> vikash: another complication is that "html5" is the umbrella term for a lot of technologies
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- # [16:44] <vikash> Jon47, hmm
- # [16:44] <shwetank> Jon47 which is what i hate. I try to say html5 and related technologies, or html5 and friends, etc .... otherwise it becomes really confusing as everyone has a different idea of what its supposed to mean
- # [16:44] <Jon47> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/ is the best resource I know of for the latest stuff, but good luck distilling it into a cheatsheet ;)
- # [16:45] <vikash> :)
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- # [17:31] <dpy> hi guys
- # [17:31] <dpy> does anyone see why clicking on this embedded SVG doesn't show the popup/alert? http://jsbin.com/acuwof
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- # [17:32] <dpy> okay, it's not literally embedded btw, it's included using the embed tag
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- # [19:12] <David_Bradbury> I'm sad - I have to program using XHTML 1.1 / HTML4 because iPads don't allow inline SVG in HTML5
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- # [19:28] <StoneCyqher> [13:04] <David_Bradbury> I'm sad - I have to program using XHTML 1.1 / HTML4 because iPads don't allow inline SVG in HTML5
- # [19:28] <StoneCyqher> er. they don't?
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- # [19:28] * shepazu doesn't have an iPad… I hope that's not true
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- # [19:29] <David_Bradbury> Nope, you have to either call it as an image as "blah.svg", open the SVG file, or use XHTML.
- # [19:29] <shepazu> David_Bradbury: do you have a url?
- # [19:29] <devmikey> Should I use plesk?
- # [19:29] <David_Bradbury> <svg> or drawing it using JS just ends up empty
- # [19:29] <David_Bradbury> I'll throw an example together
- # [19:30] <shepazu> thanks, David_Bradbury
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- # [19:32] <David_Bradbury> shepazu: http://fiddle.jshell.net/BMH8N/show/
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- # [19:36] <shepazu> StoneCyqher: do you have an iPad handy?
- # [19:36] <shepazu> http://jsfiddle.net/n4fAm/
- # [19:38] <shepazu> David_Bradbury: my example doesn't work either?
- # [19:38] <shepazu> http://jsfiddle.net/n4fAm/show/
- # [19:38] <David_Bradbury> I can get it to work, I just have to write it in XHTML
- # [19:38] <David_Bradbury> Which is lame
- # [19:38] <shepazu> David_Bradbury: totally lame
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- # [19:39] <shepazu> I mean, does the one I just pasted work?
- # [19:39] <shepazu> there were some errors in the one you showed, so I corrected them
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- # [19:39] <shepazu> (probably introduced by jsfiddle)
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- # [19:40] <shepazu> ugh, jsfiddle's "show" is terrible output!
- # [19:40] <shepazu> wtf?
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- # [19:41] <shepazu> David_Bradbury: I have to go to a meeting (where some people may have ipads), but I'll keep looking into this… if we confirm it, we should file a bug
- # [19:41] <David_Bradbury> Yeah, and it doesn't work
- # [19:41] <shepazu> iPad is the IE8 of SVG browsers
- # [19:41] <shepazu> let's run a smear campaign
- # [19:41] <shepazu> :P
- # [19:42] <David_Bradbury> Heh
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- # [19:42] <shepazu> bbl
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- # [19:44] <jair> hello guys I am sure many of you have gone through the video codec format nightmare. I have a simple html5 page where I want to show a video .mp4 (HD) but I know FF does not support that format
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- # [19:44] <jair> I use linux for everything and would like to convert the .mp4 file to either .ogg or ogv Theora so people can watch the video in FF?
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- # [19:45] <jair> any recommendations? I want to keep if possible the HD quality of the video after conversion from mp4 to ogg/ogv
- # [19:45] <Velmont> jair: You also need WEBM/Theora for Opera.
- # [19:45] <jair> I see
- # [19:45] <Velmont> jair: ffmpeg2theora is very easy to use
- # [19:45] <jair> alright can we do one at the time?
- # [19:46] <jair> let me check that program to convert the mp4 to ogv or ogg or webm?
- # [19:47] <Velmont> jair: ffmpeg2theora is for ogv/ogg
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- # [19:51] <jair> Velmont: ok perfect will try that right now
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- # [19:57] <jair> Velmont: alright it is converting, once I have the file .ogg or .ogv (will either one work)?
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- # [19:58] <jair> is this the tag I need to use on the html5 code: <source src="/videos/my-new-converted-video.ogg" type="video/ogg" />
- # [19:59] <jair> Velmont: is this the tag I need to use on the html5 code: <source src="/videos/my-new-converted-video.ogg" type="video/ogg" />
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- # [20:04] <jair> Velmont: conversion is done and I test I can play the video, quality is pretty good I think identical
- # [20:04] <jair> Velmont: now I need to put the syntax on the page and test
- # [20:06] <jair> I wonder why the mp4 is 133MB and the ogv is only 33MB, there has to be some degradation because of that compression
- # [20:10] <jair> I wonder why my videos are not playing :( I have the two formats mp4 and ogv there with the right source and syntax video html5 :(
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- # [20:19] <jair> do I need to add something AddType to my apache configuration??
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- # [20:28] <Velmont> jair: Yep. Ser$ach for it.
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- # [20:31] <jair> Velmont: I fond this file on my server: /etc/mime.types and has all of those files
- # [20:32] <Velmont> Both .ogg and .ogv
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- # [20:34] <Velmont> then <video><source src=a.ogv type="video/ogg"></source><source src=a.mp4 type="video/mp4"></video>
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- # [20:38] <jair> Velmont: OK let me try, please check the video here: http://vopencloud.com/cloud1.html
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- # [20:44] <Velmont> jair: This video doesn't exist: http://vopencloud.com/var/www/videos/elizabeth-pedro.ogv
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- # [20:45] <Velmont> jair: You should do /videos and take away the /var/www
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- # [21:00] <jair> Velmont: will get back to you in a second i am in call
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- # [21:07] <jair> Velmont: alright I am back. do you use apache in linux or a different web server for your servers?
- # [21:07] <Velmont> jair: ... Uh, it's your problem you know :P
- # [21:08] <jair> Velmont: LOL, I am fixing it now :)
- # [21:08] <Velmont> Just your src that is wrong.
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- # [21:09] <jair> Velmont: ok can you try again?
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- # [21:11] <jair> Velmont: still I get this message in FF "no video with supported format and MIME type found"
- # [21:12] <jair> together with a grey box
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- # [21:14] <jair> hmmm. I am using debian linux and in the apache server there is a configuration file "/etc/mime.types" ---> http://paste.debian.net/167196/
- # [21:14] <jair> Velmont: check the paste I put in the top
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- # [21:17] <jair> Velmont: the error was in the path to the video :)
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The end :)