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  101. # [02:55] <martisj> how would you structure this piece of information best? http://imgur.com/pqBq9
  102. # [02:57] <tw2113> looks like it's tabular data
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  105. # [03:01] <martisj> so a table tw2113?
  106. # [03:01] <martisj> blurg
  107. # [03:01] <martisj> don't like tables
  108. # [03:02] <tw2113> but they're still appropriate for tabular data
  109. # [03:02] <tw2113> just not layouts
  110. # [03:02] <martisj> good point ;)
  111. # [03:02] <martisj> thanks
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  136. # [03:47] <monteslu> paul_irish, If you're still looking for chrome dev tools enhancements, Would be nice to loosen up the number of mime types that will parse JSON to a tree in the network tab
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  138. # [03:47] <monteslu> I can't always control what I'm getting back
  139. # [03:48] <monteslu> been having to keep a firebug tab going last couple days on a project I'm doing just for that
  140. # [03:50] <martisj> when making a table, should i use the thead and tbody elements
  141. # [03:50] <martisj> ?
  142. # [03:51] <martisj> what is their purpose?
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  147. # [03:59] <tw2113> ?g mdn table head
  148. # [03:59] <bot-t> tw2113, table - MDN - https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/table
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  150. # [03:59] <tw2113> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/th
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  152. # [04:00] <tw2113> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/tbody
  153. # [04:00] <tw2113> close enough for my initial attempt
  154. # [04:00] <martisj> tw2113: thanks.
  155. # [04:01] <martisj> what about using a dl?
  156. # [04:01] <martisj> it seems to make more sense?
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  158. # [04:01] <tw2113> ?g mdn definition list
  159. # [04:01] <bot-t> tw2113, dl - MDN - https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/dl
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  184. # [04:36] <martisj> tw2113: you still think that tables are the best option?
  185. # [04:37] <tw2113> yes
  186. # [04:37] <tw2113> it's what i'd go with
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  189. # [04:46] <martisj> so check this out, http://jsfiddle.net/martisj/GryMv/
  190. # [04:46] <martisj> still not exactly what i want though.
  191. # [04:46] <martisj> hmmm
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  193. # [04:47] <tw2113> the rest would be css
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  195. # [04:49] <martisj> yeah i guess so, but the structure looks alright?
  196. # [04:49] <martisj> the markup i mean.
  197. # [04:49] <tw2113> not sure i would have done 3 different tables for each one
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  203. # [04:53] <tw2113> if it'd be easier for you, just go with traditional divs
  204. # [04:53] <tw2113> there's no punishment for the idea :P
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  206. # [04:54] <martisj> I was thinking it might be easier to populate the tables if they are separate.
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  227. # [05:39] <adorablepuppy> Can someone help me with a canvas problem?
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  268. # [07:07] <martisj> another markup question, which element could i use for this list ? http://imgur.com/zaCRy
  269. # [07:08] <martisj> list type display inline?
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  274. # [07:15] <neekfenwick> martisj, looks a lot like a <table> to me
  275. # [07:15] <neekfenwick> at least, the content inside the ASSIGNMENTS area
  276. # [07:15] <martisj> neekfenwick: how would i populate it though?
  277. # [07:16] <martisj> ah yeah
  278. # [07:16] <martisj> i know now
  279. # [07:16] <martisj> thanks :D
  280. # [07:16] <neekfenwick> well that was easy :P
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  283. # [07:20] <martisj> thanks neekfenwick
  284. # [07:21] <neekfenwick> np. it's easy to go overboard with the whole 'tables are bad' thing. though you could do what you're doing with lists, i'm sure
  285. # [07:21] <neekfenwick> you might find some css selector work would be easier with lists, depending on what fancy css effects you're trying to apply to your dom nodes
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  716. # [18:12] <David_Bradbury> Does anybody have any opinions on the Ample SDK? (amplesdk.com) - It looks interesting, but I'm worried about bloat and well, the clunky XML used at times
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  749. # [18:41] <debuuuu> I've got three divs, one of which I want to be positioned in between the other two, and has a fixed width. I'd like the two on either side to then scale their width, so they fill whatever space is left (depending on the browser window width).
  750. # [18:41] <debuuuu> How can I do that?
  751. # [18:44] <David_Bradbury> We need a Google bot in here - Search for fluid fixed fluid css
  752. # [18:46] <debuuuu> Sweet, cheers.
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  754. # [18:49] <tw2113> i think that's what flexbox is supposed to solve
  755. # [18:49] <divya> ?g fluid fixed fluid css
  756. # [18:49] <bot-t> divya, Dynamic Drive CSS Layouts- Liquid Layouts - http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/layouts/category/C13/
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  758. # [18:49] <David_Bradbury> Oooo
  759. # [18:49] <David_Bradbury> Meh, Dynamic Drive =/ Oh well
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  761. # [18:50] <tw2113> but you'll need fallback support for the dinobrowsers
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  763. # [18:51] <David_Bradbury> I'm still uncertain how I feel about Flexbox. It seems nice in theory, but I can't help but think there is a catch
  764. # [18:52] <tw2113> didn't they say that about css back in the day?
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  769. # [18:56] <hollenjf> http://thepioneerplaza.com/survey.beta.php What is the corret way to use HTML5 tags to display my data in the form that this table could?
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  781. # [19:09] <David_Bradbury> hollenjf: You're just wanting to display the results?
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  783. # [19:10] <David_Bradbury> tw2113: Indeed, but they also said that about WYSIWYG editors ;)
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  785. # [19:10] <tw2113> they can't be right all the time David_Bradbury
  786. # [19:10] <David_Bradbury> :) Exactly
  787. # [19:11] <David_Bradbury> We'll see what happens, I want Flexbox to work
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  797. # [19:16] <hollenjf> David_Bradbury: Well ive just made some modifications. My objective was to replace the <table> that organized the radio buttons
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  799. # [19:17] <hollenjf> can you tell me, if you look at my source code, the <label> tag housing the "what were you here for" radio buttons; what is the proper way to write that?
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  802. # [19:19] <David_Bradbury> Well, I typically structure it using a list, then label, then inputs, similarly to http://www.alistapart.com/articles/prettyaccessibleforms
  803. # [19:20] <David_Bradbury> I'd have the label replace your span, then I'd have an unordered list container your whole thing
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  806. # [19:21] <alcuadrado> i have to do something similar to JCrop, where one should be able to move elementes inside another. is the drag & drop api suitable for that? what's your opinion?
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  813. # [19:27] <hollenjf> David_Bradbury: the way I have it here, is it improper or in a fashion that will cause problems?
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  815. # [19:29] <David_Bradbury> Well, semantically speaking, the whole line isn't a label, just the text in front. I mean, you can keep it and it shouldn't hurt you in the short term, but it may make things more difficult down the road if any major changes need to be made
  816. # [19:30] <hollenjf> i understand
  817. # [19:30] <hollenjf> thank you
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  823. # [19:34] <AcademyIntl> In general (not just HTML5) how acceptable is the // notation for the href of a link? (ie: "<a href="//facebook.com"> ...")
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  832. # [19:42] <philihp> AcademyIntl, did you mean the UNC path with \\?
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  834. # [19:44] <tw2113> i believe he means sans http:/https:
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  891. # [20:50] <David_Bradbury> "//" is 100% acceptable and will work in all major browsers
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  961. # [22:13] <grantg> niftylettuce: The stumbleupon gods decided to DDoS today
  962. # [22:13] <grantg> http://i.imgur.com/z9FIv.png
  963. # [22:13] <grantg> That referral of coming from my site itself is stumble being redirected from another page on my site
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  965. # [22:14] <grantg> redirectception
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  1009. # [23:06] <ShavingBunnies> http://forums.techarena.in/software-development/1184576.htm How do I open say www.google.com with this Sorry for the basic question
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  1012. # [23:09] <David_Bradbury> <a href=”http://www.google.com” target=”_blank”>Google</a>
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