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  62. # [01:46] <uf0_work> SASS duders
  63. # [01:46] <uf0_work> how is debug CSS bugs with it
  64. # [01:46] <uf0_work> debugging
  65. # [01:47] <uf0_work> and.. how can I know which line to look at in my scss file
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  71. # [01:53] <uf0_work> ok who here use SASS... then out of those who use compass (with sass obviously)?
  72. # [01:54] <uf0_work> second part I meant who uses compass (with sass obviously)*
  73. # [01:57] <sunbeam> does anyone know how come that when i use slideUp with a submenu in IE when I move away from the top level link the slide dissapears again?
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  339. # [10:52] <Jaycob> I have an app that works in application cache, and there's this user voice widget on the page, which won't load now that the page always loads from the app cache
  340. # [10:52] <Jaycob> is there a way to fix this?
  341. # [10:52] <Jaycob> or is it just mean to be that way
  342. # [10:52] <Jaycob> meant*
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  345. # [10:54] <Jaycob> of course there's no need for the widget to show up when offline, but it doesn't even show up when online
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  413. # [13:57] <grantg> paul_irish: Is this bug known? https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=128710
  414. # [13:57] <grantg> Web Worker failure for no good reason
  415. # [13:57] <grantg> And all the other browsers work properly on it
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  435. # [14:29] <Stava> Would it be appropriate to use a <nav> with links to next and previous post in a <footer> of said post (<article>)?
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  456. # [14:58] <sunbeam> is it good to use role="main" on a div id="container" ?
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  459. # [15:01] <timini> Does anyone know any techniques that allow a responsive vertical height? I effectivly want to have "slides" that are one window height, any ideas?
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  475. # [15:29] <Stava> timini: javascript, since its a slide you'll be relying on it anyway
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  507. # [16:00] <aitiba> hi
  508. # [16:01] <aitiba> I'm making a responsable web design grids
  509. # [16:01] <aitiba> but I get that height of firefox and chrome are totally different on the same browser window
  510. # [16:02] <aitiba> ¿how can I fit it?
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  512. # [16:02] <aitiba> http://95.16.203.184/simplegrid
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  528. # [16:19] <aQustic> anyone here available for a quick question regarding forms on ios?
  529. # [16:20] <moo-_-> aQustic: there is no sense to ask meta-questions IRC
  530. # [16:20] <moo-_-> people cannot know if they can help you or not
  531. # [16:20] <aQustic> sorry .. i'll just it then
  532. # [16:20] <aQustic> i have a form with 3 input fields
  533. # [16:21] <aQustic> firstname, surname and mobile phone number
  534. # [16:21] <aQustic> one field on each line
  535. # [16:21] <aQustic> underneath i have several different links (share on facebook, twitter and others)
  536. # [16:22] <aQustic> the problem is that in some situations, depending on the scroll position/viewport, when a user clicks one of the input fields to enter the relevant data, the 'ios input dialog' scrolls up, moving the content accordingly, and i get a click event on the links that scrolls up
  537. # [16:25] <aQustic> makes sense?
  538. # [16:26] <moo-_-> aQustic: you mean moves because of the soft keyboard?
  539. # [16:26] <aQustic> yeah, when that appears
  540. # [16:26] <aQustic> the page scrolls up, and whatever is scrolled up, also gets a click event
  541. # [16:26] <aQustic> it's really strange
  542. # [16:27] <moo-_-> you mean event in javascript code or actual link clicking triggering browser load?
  543. # [16:27] <aQustic> both
  544. # [16:27] <moo-_-> because other can be worked around by listening to touch events on touch devices
  545. # [16:27] <aQustic> if it's an <a href="#"> link you accidently trigger, it scrolls to the top
  546. # [16:27] <moo-_-> I would check what kind of solutions jQuery Mobile has for this problem
  547. # [16:27] <moo-_-> if it hasn't any
  548. # [16:28] <moo-_-> then it simply sucks
  549. # [16:28] <aQustic> it really does
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  551. # [16:30] <aQustic> my quick fix so far is to add a really tall border/margin/padding (as high as the soft keyboard), to prevent anything clickable to accidently get triggered
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  556. # [16:32] <Jax> do you set the width of a column on a <th> or on any <td> ?
  557. # [16:33] <moo-_-> Jax: I usually set on <th> + all <td>s
  558. # [16:35] <Jax> but do you make css classes for them or just set style=
  559. # [16:37] <moo-_-> CSS classes naturally
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  700. # [20:06] <daphydil> hi...i have a <select>, and for each <option> I would like it to look like some left aligned text, and then some right aligned text...is this possible?
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  702. # [20:06] <daphydil> it looks like options only expect text to be in them, not more HTML?
  703. # [20:07] <daphydil> I realize I can set a style on the <option>, but i have two different styles I want to apply to the options content
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  705. # [20:08] <tw2113> i wonder if the nth-child could select option tags
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  707. # [20:13] <David_Bradbury> nth-child should probably work, that said, styling form elements is a lovely practice in futility
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  731. # [20:35] <jcislife> What MAJOR should I go for based on Web development, graphic design, and marketing
  732. # [20:36] <hober> those are three quite different things...
  733. # [20:37] <daphydil> jcislife: philosphy
  734. # [20:37] <jcislife> lol
  735. # [20:37] <jcislife> Well online marketing, SEO
  736. # [20:37] <daphydil> yeah, philosophy
  737. # [20:37] <daphydil> best bet
  738. # [20:38] <jcislife> yea OK
  739. # [20:38] <daphydil> because then, you will have a useless degree and won't be able to get a job, and you'll teach yourself web development, graphic design, and SEO
  740. # [20:38] <jcislife> haha
  741. # [20:38] <daphydil> like you should have just done in the first place
  742. # [20:38] <jcislife> SO just drop out of school all together?
  743. # [20:38] <daphydil> no
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  745. # [20:39] <daphydil> a degree is a good way to get a job right out of college; BUT, it is not the only way. Being talented and skilled in those particular areas will put you above a less talented, less skilled person with a degree
  746. # [20:40] <daphydil> but i can guarantee you, that if you just work on those skills during classes, and you don't live and breathe them(by researching, studying, learning independently, on your own time)
  747. # [20:40] <daphydil> you will never be skilled at them
  748. # [20:40] <jcislife> yea true
  749. # [20:40] <daphydil> and if you live and breathe those fields, why would you need to take classes anyway?
  750. # [20:40] <jcislife> Thats true as well
  751. # [20:41] <daphydil> maybe advanced classes taught by very skilled people, but in a normal college course you are going to find a bunch of people who are just in it for the money, and dont really enjoy what they decided to do
  752. # [20:41] <jcislife> But I know my parents wouldn't allow me to not finish school
  753. # [20:41] <daphydil> I'm not saying don't finish school, what I'm trying to say is it doesn't really matter what you choose, and there might be some good evidence to support NOT choosing to major in those fields
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  755. # [20:42] <daphydil> for example: a lot of very good programmers majored in physics and engineering, not Comp Sci
  756. # [20:42] <daphydil> because physics and engineering teach you skills that can easily be applied to programming
  757. # [20:42] <jcislife> oh really?
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  759. # [20:43] <daphydil> yes...its not a rule, just a general tendency...there are also physicists and engineers out there who don't know a lick of programming
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  761. # [20:44] <jcislife> oh ok
  762. # [20:45] <jcislife> Which out of the three would be most Advatagous
  763. # [20:45] <daphydil> dude, it depends on so many factors
  764. # [20:45] <daphydil> YOU decide
  765. # [20:45] <daphydil> that way, if it doesnt work out, you don't blame a stranger on IRC, you blame yourself
  766. # [20:46] <daphydil> it depends on your character traits, what school you are going to (if its even decided yet), what their programs are like, what the student body is like
  767. # [20:46] <daphydil> its too complex for anyone to answer on their own
  768. # [20:46] <daphydil> besides for you
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  770. # [20:47] <jcislife> Yea, just trying to figure things out. I think I'd go to UIC, in Chicago
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  864. # [22:45] <uf0_work> um.. they need to make transitions work on "height: auto;"
  865. # [22:45] <uf0_work> !
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  873. # [23:01] <rupl> uf0_work: but then what would you do all day if it was that easy? :p
  874. # [23:04] <uf0_work> :)
  875. # [23:04] <rupl> uf0_work: https://twitter.com/#!/estellevw/statuses/165182202378846209
  876. # [23:04] <socialhapy> ★ Tweet from estellevw: CSS3: You can't transition from height: 0 to height: auto; Instead, transition transform from scaleY(0) to scaleY(1). transform-origin: top; ★ http://bit.ly/M2gQWW
  877. # [23:06] <uf0_work> oh shit.. let me see
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  879. # [23:07] <moo-_-> uf0_work: haacks :Z
  880. # [23:07] <moo-_-> but that's what CSS and HTML is all about ^_^
  881. # [23:07] <uf0_work> moo-_-: you don't likey?
  882. # [23:07] <uf0_work> haven't tried it yet..
  883. # [23:07] <uf0_work> about to though!
  884. # [23:08] <uf0_work> i'm cool with hacks as long it's nothing like
  885. # [23:08] <uf0_work> margin: -300px;
  886. # [23:08] <uf0_work> those drive my crazy
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  889. # [23:10] <nezzario> how well is e.x. src="//www.something.com/foo.bar" format actually supported?
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  892. # [23:13] <moo-_-> nezzario: your question needs little bit more context
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  895. # [23:20] <rupl> nezzario: if you're referring to the lack of protocol, starting with double-slash will use whichever protocol the current page uses. So secure pages will use https, non-secure will use http
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  897. # [23:23] <rupl> nezzario: it works well enough to be in h5bp ( https://github.com/h5bp/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/index.html#L42 ) ... I don't know of any compatibility data
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  912. # [23:46] <David_Bradbury> protocol-relative URL's are supported in all browsers IE6+
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  915. # [23:48] <David_Bradbury> Or technically the network-path reference scheme :p
  916. # [23:48] <David_Bradbury> @ nezzario
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  923. # [23:53] <lizzin> i'm having trouble understanding html forms. it's my understanding that a form with method='get' will append the form input fields to the action attribute. what am i missing here? this is my code http://www.webdevout.net/test?0R
  924. # [23:55] <tantek> lizzin, it's not clear the http://localhost/ is what you want in the action
  925. # [23:55] <tantek> how about just using a local path?
  926. # [23:55] <tantek> e.g. "/action"
  927. # [23:55] <tantek> or "/action.html"
  928. # [23:56] <lizzin> same result
  929. # [23:57] <lizzin> after clicking 'submit' i expected the result to be /action.html?your_name
  930. # [23:57] <lizzin> isn't that what should happen
  931. # [23:57] <lizzin> tantek:
  932. # [23:57] <tantek> ah, you need 'name' attributes on the input elements so that the browser knows what parameters to use
  933. # [23:57] <tantek> e.g.
  934. # [23:57] <tantek> <input autofocus required type="text" value="your name">
  935. # [23:57] <tantek> should be something like
  936. # [23:57] <lizzin> oh ok
  937. # [23:57] <tantek> <input autofocus required name="user_name" type="text" value="your name">
  938. # [23:57] <tantek> try that
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  941. # [23:58] <lizzin> that worked!
  942. # [23:58] <lizzin> thanks
  943. # [23:59] <lizzin> so each input field will be appended to the action in the order that they are listed in the html?
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