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  43. # [00:43] <Lucky--> Any of you guys ever have to deal with skype's click to call js crashing all the time?
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  81. # [01:47] <mappum> when will chrome have nicer text rendering on windows? even ie9 has it >:/
  82. # [01:48] <mappum> FF does too
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  84. # [01:48] <mappum> not safari though
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  153. # [03:18] <wb_> Hello all, Would anyone be so kind as to tell me what you call it when you have a popover div that asks the user for some information, and greys out/blocks interaction with the rest of the page?
  154. # [03:18] <wb_> I keep searching like "popover" and all that comes up is stuff about popups
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  157. # [03:19] <JonEdney> wb_, sounds like it might be a JavaScript thing? Sadly, the term "popover" doesn't ring a bell for me.
  158. # [03:20] <wb_> Like I want my user to click a button to add some information, then they click the button, and it greys out the background and has a div pop over that asks for the information, then they dismiss the box with either "x" or finish and get back to what they where doing
  159. # [03:20] <wb_> like a modal view or something
  160. # [03:21] <JonEdney> I see what you are saying. I don't believe that is all HTML5, may be some jQuery.
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  162. # [03:23] <wb_> Ahhh, Ok that makes sense, thanks man
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  171. # [03:32] <tw2113> JonEdney sounds like he/she meant lightboxes
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  173. # [03:34] <JonEdney> tw2113, yeah I relized that after the fact
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  175. # [03:35] <tw2113> gotcha
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  194. # [04:07] <jorul> Hello, I have a problem with preloading images
  195. # [04:08] <jorul> I preloade them but then when I want to use them in the engine, they are downloaded once again:(
  196. # [04:08] <jorul> anyone has some ideas?
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  198. # [04:08] <jorul> I am writing a game but not with canvas, just DOM
  199. # [04:08] <jorul> when I switch engine to use canvas I don't see it
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  311. # [07:36] <hemangpatel> hii there
  312. # [07:37] <hemangpatel> is there any ways to display pdf file using html 5 ?
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  499. # [13:24] <austincheney> is there an academic survey on what percentage of the web's html is either valid or well-formed?
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  773. # [22:08] <bolosaur> Hello guys. I'm building a HTML5 game, but I can't seem to find any good info on touch device resolutions. Do you guys know what the single best resolution is for both Android and iOS devices, where the screen takes up as much of the viewport as possible on all those devices?
  774. # [22:12] <bolosaur> Dynamic sizing won't work because my game uses pixelart, which means that I need to build all my art assets around a screen resolution that works on any device.
  775. # [22:13] <bolosaur> So that I can then scale it up by doubling the screen size when necessary.
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  778. # [22:16] <bolosaur> So what I want to find out really is which native resolution would work best to fit most popular smartphones at 1:1 scaling
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  786. # [22:24] <ard_> bolosaur: you could upscale your assets dynamically using canvas
  787. # [22:26] <bolosaur> ard_: I am
  788. # [22:26] <bolosaur> but I can't rely on the viewport size
  789. # [22:26] <bolosaur> I need my scaling to retain the aspect ratio
  790. # [22:26] <bolosaur> so it only scales like
  791. # [22:27] <bolosaur> 1:1, 1:2, 1:4, 1:8 and so forth
  792. # [22:27] <bolosaur> Get what I mean?
  793. # [22:28] <ard_> yeah but you can basically get screen width, calculate height using your ratio and scale, no?
  794. # [22:29] <bolosaur> That's what I'm doing, but I want to make sure I utilize as much of the screen as I can.
  795. # [22:31] <bolosaur> Like, if I design my game with one device in mind, it's going to get a pretty sweet letterbox for that device, but on all other devices it's going to get both horizontal AND vertical letterboxing since my game upscales to keep its aspect ration
  796. # [22:31] <bolosaur> ratio*
  797. # [22:32] <bolosaur> So like, let's say my game is originally 320x240, and I run it on a device that has 640x800 (hypothetically speaking). That's going to give the game a horizontal letterbox with the resolution doubled
  798. # [22:32] <bolosaur> but if it's run on a 600x800 device, it will have to run in its original size because the width is not enough to warrant doubling the screen resolution
  799. # [22:33] <bolosaur> which means it will have a lot of black bars all around it
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  801. # [22:33] <bolosaur> so what I want to do is build my game in a native resolution where on 1:1 it has as little letterboxing as possible on most popular smartphones
  802. # [22:33] <bolosaur> but I have no idea which are the most popular smartphones for web app development
  803. # [22:33] <bolosaur> or what their resolutions are
  804. # [22:34] <ard_> ok I see
  805. # [22:34] <bolosaur> So like if the iOS resolution is 800x400, and the three most popular Android devices have say, 640x400, 600x400 and 640x450
  806. # [22:35] <bolosaur> I would build my game at a native res of 600x400
  807. # [22:35] <ard_> you have a few here
  808. # [22:35] <ard_> https://github.com/zynga/viewporter/blob/master/src/viewporter.js#L201
  809. # [22:35] <bolosaur> which would give it black bars on most devices, but very little
  810. # [22:35] <bolosaur> ah, cool
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  812. # [22:38] <bolosaur> Cheers. Let me know if you can think of anythign else. :)
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  817. # [22:45] <ard_> bolosaur: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_resolutions :P cross-compare with some list of most popular devices and you should be good ;)
  818. # [22:45] <bolosaur> I was given that list in another chan but
  819. # [22:45] <bolosaur> it doesn't do me much good unfortuantely
  820. # [22:45] <bolosaur> because
  821. # [22:45] <ard_> oops, it's not mobile heh
  822. # [22:45] <bolosaur> well, this isnt just for mobile phones
  823. # [22:45] <bolosaur> but also tablets and pc
  824. # [22:46] <ard_> yeah
  825. # [22:46] <ard_> http://cartoonized.net/cellphone-screen-resolution.php
  826. # [22:46] <bolosaur> but I'm really mostly looking for someone who is experienced with web app development to tell me a good resolution that works native on most devices :P
  827. # [22:46] <ard_> this one looks better
  828. # [22:46] <bolosaur> given status bars, address bars etc
  829. # [22:46] <bolosaur> so like, a generic list of all devices unfortunately won't work :(
  830. # [22:46] <bolosaur> though i do appreciate your help
  831. # [22:46] <ard_> you can disable them on some devices
  832. # [22:46] <ard_> address bar etc
  833. # [22:46] <bolosaur> yeah
  834. # [22:47] <bolosaur> i'm already doing that, but i think on some devices certain bars will still show?
  835. # [22:47] <bolosaur> idk
  836. # [22:47] <ard_> for sure ;)
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  838. # [22:47] <adam__> I hate HTML5
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  840. # [22:48] <adam__> I am trying to write a game with it, using DOM
  841. # [22:48] <adam__> and it downloads many times the same file instead of use that currently downloaded, which I totally don't understand
  842. # [22:52] <bolosaur> Hehe.
  843. # [22:52] <bolosaur> I just use game development toolkits that export to HTML5.
  844. # [22:52] <bolosaur> Much faster. :)
  845. # [22:53] <adam__> I tried with some of them but everywhere where used is DOM I see the same
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  847. # [22:53] <ard_> bolosaur: like haxe? or which one?
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  849. # [22:57] <adam__> can I post here an example of what I mean?
  850. # [22:57] <adam__> then you could ust tell me if it is as it is supposed to work or I am doing definitely something wrong
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  853. # [23:00] <ard_> adam__: don't paste code, use jsfiddle or link to some working demo
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  856. # [23:05] <bolosaur> ard_: Construct 2
  857. # [23:05] <bolosaur> amazing toolkit
  858. # [23:05] <bolosaur> unfortunately i cant help you, even though i would like to
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  860. # [23:05] <bolosaur> as i only rely on these applications
  861. # [23:05] <bolosaur> :)
  862. # [23:05] <ard_> ahm, it's more like game maker, right?
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  864. # [23:07] <adam__> bolosaur how it works in mobile browsers?
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  867. # [23:11] <bolosaur> adam__: Was that a question?
  868. # [23:11] <bolosaur> ard_: Kind of, but more flexible I'd say
  869. # [23:12] <bolosaur> it doesn't assume that you're making a game even though it's a game making toolkit, if that makes sense
  870. # [23:12] <bolosaur> and it has click and point programming instead of a scripting language
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  874. # [23:15] <adam__> bolosaur I am asking mostly about its performance in mobile browsers. I tried to test in but on Construct's page I saw games which are not suited for mobiles
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  876. # [23:16] <bolosaur> adam__: I've just started developing for phones, but I would guess that the performance is good.
  877. # [23:17] <bolosaur> There should be some iOS demos somewhere on the site
  878. # [23:17] <bolosaur> or you could download the free version and try it out yourself :)
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  890. # [23:41] <adam__> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54987642/IceCreamsGame/examples/imageloaderEx.html
  891. # [23:41] <adam__> please run this and observe your Network panel in Chrome Dev Tools or something like that
  892. # [23:42] <adam__> is it normal that one image is downloaded may times?
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  894. # [23:43] <adam__> I don't think so, but I have tested many DOM game engines and I see still something similar
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